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2461  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: November 02, 2015, 11:42:55 AM
Next to MoneroMooo's new proposal, he also gave an update on the official forum -> https://forum.getmonero.org/9/work-in-progress/334/fund-a-developer-moneromoo-will-work-part-time-on-monero-for-260-hours-over-approx-6-months?page=&noscroll=1#post-4252

@americanpegasus: Yeah they have a pretty awesome UI.


This feature is pretty cool I will have to check out:

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one can now set a custom default mixin in simplewallet

There have been many improvements recently. Lets thank our development team for all their hard work!

So except MoneroMoo, who is also actively working on the monero code?

Working on the Monero code also includes reviewing, testing, coming up with new ideas, working on the mining infrastructure etc. in my opinion. It's not merely coders that contribute. So next to the list of GingerAle, a lot of other people are working on the code.
2462  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: November 01, 2015, 10:44:45 PM

You know that we spent a ton of effort making sure the forum works without Javascript, right? We eventually even recently fixed the JS menu, which was a pain as Bootstrap likes a JS menu...but all sorted now:)
 
  
No one will deny your efforts, but I think many people in cryptoland are very wary of any Javascript these days.  I religiously run noscript, and am very picky about what website's I disable it on.  
  
I know, I know - if you don't trust the official Monero website, who do you trust?  But I still think it's worth considering why some might be very wary of a Javascript forum (especially the ultra-privacy advocates that may make up Monero's earliest adopters).  

I think you misunderstood, fluffy is saying there was a lot of efforts put into ensuring the no-JS version of the forum works well.


In addition, it's not about people not trusting the Monero website. Rather about people not wanting to leak (private) information via Javascript.
2463  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: November 01, 2015, 06:52:48 PM

Also, the official forum is forum.getmonero.org. Announcements and discussions are often posted there instead of here, though may also get cross posted here.

 
  
I've tried to use the official forums before and just found them unpleasant... it's hard to put my finger on it; maybe it has to do with the alignment or style of the text, or perhaps the old-school nested comment trees... not 100% sure.  I'm sure someone at one point worked very hard to put them together, so I hope no one takes it personally, but I would almost rather Monero move over to a Simple Machines Forum standard itself.  
  
This place catches a lot of shit, but with a few exceptions its actually very functional and pleasant to use.

I agree, not a big fan of that forum design.

You guys know that you can change that, just click on the little gear button at the top to go to settings (https://forum.getmonero.org/user/settings) and under "Forum View" just change "Sort posts by" to Latest or Oldest, per your preference. Then you'll never see a nested thread again:)

I happen to find this forum difficult to follow as well. It might be the lack of sane defaults, or at least intuitive defaults for those that are used to the classic-style forums such as this (i.e. everyone).

I believe sort by Oldest and expand all by default would be a nice start to welcome new users.

Agree with the bolded, with that as default setting it would be less difficult for newcomers to follow threads and the forum in general.
2464  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: November 01, 2015, 06:37:32 PM
Next to MoneroMooo's new proposal, he also gave an update on the official forum -> https://forum.getmonero.org/9/work-in-progress/334/fund-a-developer-moneromoo-will-work-part-time-on-monero-for-260-hours-over-approx-6-months?page=&noscroll=1#post-4252

@americanpegasus: Yeah they have a pretty awesome UI.
2465  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: November 01, 2015, 06:36:54 PM
Next to MoneroMooo's new proposal, he also gave an update on the official forum -> https://forum.getmonero.org/9/work-in-progress/334/fund-a-developer-moneromoo-will-work-part-time-on-monero-for-260-hours-over-approx-6-months?page=&noscroll=1#post-4252
2466  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: November 01, 2015, 06:14:27 PM
Someone took out ~12k in shorts around 12:00 PM UTC and immediately dumped it on the market.

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2015-11-01 12:14:05 23658.71574870 0.00000000 0.0099% / 0%
2015-11-01 12:13:04 35546.25698950 0.00000000 0.0068% / 0%

First row is total XMR offered, second is total XMR demanded, last row is weighted average interest rate.

See -> http://monerodice.pd.to/polo.php

You can see the dump on the charts (chart is UTC+1):

2467  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: November 01, 2015, 03:51:45 PM
That being said I have a question about this. "but monero was also valued about a quarter higher in fiat terms" I thought the price was steady v/s fiat. It's BTC that has been bubbled.
https://forum.getmonero.org/7/open-tasks/2412/xmr-pool-infrastructure-overhaul

Price was pretty stable at 0.002 BTC/XMR for months, when BTC ranged between $220-$300. So, $0.45-$0.6 roughly. Now we are at the bottom of that range, which is roughly one quarter. I know if I were to exchange all the XMR I bought this summer for BTC now, the fiat value would be much less.

That was not the question. There are direct fiat/xmr markets.

I did some digging on coincap.io (they display the fiat price of XMR over time). Around the time MoneroMooo made his first proposal (somewhere in the 2nd week of July if I recall correctly), XMR was on average worth ~0.52$-0.55$. Currently it's ~0.39$-0.42$. Thus, the increase in XMR is perfectly justifiable in my opinion. Next to that, he is doing an awesome job, so even if the fiat price didn't decline his increase was justifiable.
2468  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: November 01, 2015, 03:34:52 PM
Crossposted:

A continuation for all purpose programming of what needs to get done in Monero (by MoneroMooo)

https://forum.getmonero.org/7/open-tasks/2410/a-continuation-for-all-purpose-programming-of-what-needs-to-get-done-in-monero?sort=date_desc

I'm impressed with MMoo's work and really like to see him continue. That being said I have a question about this. "but monero was also valued about a quarter higher in fiat terms" I thought the price was steady v/s fiat. It's BTC that has been bubbled. Not that that matters as 40 XMR for a competent developer is a good deal. But I thought I'd ask about this.

BTW I would like to see Mmooo to help community members like Smoothie that are working without compensation.




How imminent is this?

https://forum.getmonero.org/7/open-tasks/2412/xmr-pool-infrastructure-overhaul

From IRC:

<dEBRUYNE__> <moneromooo> If we were to continue using minor for hard fork voting, we'd get down to 64 years. But that'd require us to actively want to break it, which sounds unlikely. <= This is about W0lf`s remark right?
<dEBRUYNE__> regarding the pool structure, mining code etc.
<Wolf`> dEBRUYNE__: about the block size growth, yeah
<dEBRUYNE__> Wolf`: I see, so the code would break after 64 years?
<dEBRUYNE__> Or am I missing something :-P
<omgcraptsysucks> 64 years is coming sooner than you think. may as well fix it now
<Wolf`> dEBRUYNE__: yeah, I didn't know when the timestamp would grow, I said
<Wolf`> just that it'd get bigger
<Wolf`> guess it's not THAT much of an issue
<Wolf`> but the rest of the problems remain

Thx man. Smiley  Wolf should put that info into his post.

In addition:

<moneromooo> dEBRUYNE__: timestamp bump is in 1044 years. 64 years is the minor version, if we bump it once every 6 months (but we don't have to, and in fact, there was a proposal to change the vote to be per feature, and we'd base on the major version for that, so that 64 years limit would be moot way before hitting).
<moneromooo> Though that moves tha to the major version, assuming that format stays constant for that much time.
2469  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: November 01, 2015, 02:56:15 PM
Crossposted:

A continuation for all purpose programming of what needs to get done in Monero (by MoneroMooo)

https://forum.getmonero.org/7/open-tasks/2410/a-continuation-for-all-purpose-programming-of-what-needs-to-get-done-in-monero?sort=date_desc

I'm impressed with MMoo's work and really like to see him continue. That being said I have a question about this. "but monero was also valued about a quarter higher in fiat terms" I thought the price was steady v/s fiat. It's BTC that has been bubbled. Not that that matters as 40 XMR for a competent developer is a good deal. But I thought I'd ask about this.

BTW I would like to see Mmooo to help community members like Smoothie that are working without compensation.




How imminent is this?

https://forum.getmonero.org/7/open-tasks/2412/xmr-pool-infrastructure-overhaul

From IRC:

<dEBRUYNE__> <moneromooo> If we were to continue using minor for hard fork voting, we'd get down to 64 years. But that'd require us to actively want to break it, which sounds unlikely. <= This is about W0lf`s remark right?
<dEBRUYNE__> regarding the pool structure, mining code etc.
<Wolf`> dEBRUYNE__: about the block size growth, yeah
<dEBRUYNE__> Wolf`: I see, so the code would break after 64 years?
<dEBRUYNE__> Or am I missing something :-P
<omgcraptsysucks> 64 years is coming sooner than you think. may as well fix it now
<Wolf`> dEBRUYNE__: yeah, I didn't know when the timestamp would grow, I said
<Wolf`> just that it'd get bigger
<Wolf`> guess it's not THAT much of an issue
<Wolf`> but the rest of the problems remain
2470  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: November 01, 2015, 01:30:51 AM
A continuation for all purpose programming of what needs to get done in Monero (by MoneroMooo)

https://forum.getmonero.org/7/open-tasks/2410/a-continuation-for-all-purpose-programming-of-what-needs-to-get-done-in-monero?sort=date_desc
2471  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: November 01, 2015, 01:30:43 AM
A continuation for all purpose programming of what needs to get done in Monero (by MoneroMooo)

https://forum.getmonero.org/7/open-tasks/2410/a-continuation-for-all-purpose-programming-of-what-needs-to-get-done-in-monero?sort=date_desc
2472  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 31, 2015, 08:21:34 PM
Ok guys, just bought my first big amount of XMR, couldn't ride the bitcoin train anymore and feel like this is the best price to buy in bulk... Even though it's not an astronomical amount that people like AP would consider "big", but it's pretty huge for me given my budget I'm working on.  Just thought I should share with my new found fam  Grin
 
  
Just imagine the people that scraped together enough $ to buy 500 or 1000 bitcoins back in the day thinking they didn't have much compared to the other guys.  
  
Time both humbles us and exalts us all.  Both of us might lose our ass, but I feel this is a risk worth taking for me.  Even if I lose, I'll know I lost supporting something worthwhile.

Yeah, ever since I stumbled upon XMR and was introduced to it by people like you on the subreddit, I have been trying to scrape as much money as I can to put into XMR... I was honestly trying to ride the bitcoin train to accumulate as much as possible, but I honestly can't see it going any higher right now and feel like this is the best XMR/BTC ratio we'll see for sometime.  At least I hope so (lol).  I just don't see how XMR won't be a success... it's just too good.

Edit: Also, just curious, does poleniex calculate how much is being converted from bitcoin to XMR?  I have looked for my purchase earlier to see if it was on there, and it wasn't.

Regarding your edit, if I recall correctly you can analyze your trades somewhere and also calculate an average.
2473  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: Mea culpa (DBT, Wadii Rachid, Rayane) on: October 31, 2015, 01:10:39 PM
LOL J'ai une certaine réputation dans la communauté ==> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=81999

La moitié des notes c'est des tags "Tried to scam a new holder" LOL

Going to respond here in English, that's sent feedback, so not feedback he received. His untrusted feedback is all postive, besides one entry of DBT.
2474  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 31, 2015, 12:36:20 PM
bids will take some time to recover from this. if btc tops out soon i guess we will recover really fast, maybe it would even cause an xmr bull run. if btc continues to go up, well..i say it wont drop below 30 cents anyway, but what this means in btc denominated prices is hard to tell. making a new low below 0009 would be bad.

so heads up, ~0.43$ now.

btw yeah i somehow agree with risto, we are all loaded now


Bids are pretty much the same as before the drop. So either the market is pretty resilient or this is just the work of one entity playing games. I am betting on the latter. Regarding fiat price, I think we'll manage to stay in the $0.36-$0.46 range. I personally don't see it falling below that. However, you never know with these irrational markets.

Somewhat agree with the bolded as well. However, 0.9 should be sufficient to attract a bunch of new people.
2475  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 31, 2015, 12:41:49 AM
It looks like lots of Chinese are getting sucked into this ponzi scheme. Look at these videos. You can see all the transfers are done in bitcoin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni68D5vwz2Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmcCN31qQAo

Look at the dates.

They are using bitcoin to send payments to other participants.

There is smoke, but I'm not sure fire. Those videos appear to be there for promotional purposes but look at the low view counts. They could be mirrored on a Chinese video site though.


Youtube is blocked in China. So the view counts don't mean much.

EDIT: We also have Bobby Lee saying that ponzi participants are buying "like crazy" but he hasn't put a number on it.
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-price-breaks-260-to-hit-two-month-high/

OKCoin put out a warning as well -> https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/3qd7cc/this_week_at_okcoin_china_update_mmm_ponzi/
2476  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: October 31, 2015, 12:40:10 AM
It is not rocket science to port Forknote for Monero, but what is the point with no proper windows build and almost none side projects Sad One cannot even get a block explorer if one creates a private chain.

Uhm? -> http://moneroblocks.eu/

Also, windows beta binaries -> https://downloads.getmonero.org/monero.win.x64.v0-9-beta.zip
2477  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 31, 2015, 12:00:40 AM
It looks like lots of Chinese are getting sucked into this ponzi scheme. Look at these videos. You can see all the transfers are done in bitcoin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni68D5vwz2Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmcCN31qQAo

Look at the dates.

They are using bitcoin to send payments to other participants.



As long as the price goes up it will work :-P Anyway, Bitcoin already had enough bad publicity. I am quite sure it could handle this as well. It's not like you can do anything to stop it.
2478  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 30, 2015, 09:15:07 PM
...

I believe you meant September 15, 2015 for the code freeze for version 0.9

Yes that is correct.

Little remark, it was either September 15, 2015 or October 15, 2015 if I recall correctly. However, since we passed both already your argument is still valid and furthermore I agree with it.

It's quite simple, mr manipulator and the bears will be able to determine the price (+control the market) until we have a new release.

fluffypony today commented on the Monero forum that the delay in the code freeze will not push back the hardfork date because most people will want to upgrade to the new release.

Yeah!! the 0.9 release is less than 6 months away Grin  Roll EyesGrin

Before was stated that the new release (0.9) would be released before one of that dates, hence ArticMine's argument.
2479  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 30, 2015, 09:03:37 PM
...

I believe you meant September 15, 2015 for the code freeze for version 0.9

Yes that is correct.

Little remark, it was either September 15, 2015 or October 15, 2015 if I recall correctly. However, since we passed both already your argument is still valid and furthermore I agree with it.

It's quite simple, mr manipulator and the bears will be able to determine the price (+control the market) until we have a new release.
2480  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 30, 2015, 08:21:09 PM

Should I sell my XMR to prove to you that I don't like the concentration that is happening?

(I also don't like that nobody even recognizes this is the problem. As with price, today it is 0.3734 EUR/XMR, twelve days ago it was 0.3735. That one is holding steady.)
 
 
If you remember the early days, those with excessive amounts of BTC were incentivizing others in BTC.  1000 BTC for this project, 1000 BTC for that.  As long as you could prove you had a legitimate way to advance the currency, there were rounds of investment capital being paid into the ecosystem in the currency. 
 
This has a two-fold effect: it propagates the currency while also giving people a way and incentive to build it up.   Consider making some XMR investments into projects.  Remember: BUIDL, not HODL.   Wink

Rpietila has done quite a lot of that already. Next to Crypto Kingdom, he also donated quite a lot to the dev team.
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