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1821  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DASH scam exposed at the Satoshi Roundtable retreat! on: February 29, 2016, 10:35:27 PM
My 2 cents opinion... I can't even think of starting with Cryptonote nor RingCT as a base for what I want to do, because I want to popularize crypto currency and I need microtransactions and very high transaction rate scaling with instant transactions. Also I want to totally change the PoW model to unprofitable PoW where the mining is done by payers (not by miners) and verification is entirely centralized, because this is the only way I can see to maintain decentralization as a crypto currency scales up. All that privacy and anonymity overhead is baggage that makes it impossible to achieve my design and it does nothing for the masses, but stand in the way of the features for which they might actually use a crypto currency.

It is 2am here (slept 5 hours now insomnia kicks in again). At 9am I will receive the results from all my blood tests looking for an infectious cause. I am thinking my Hepatitis C test will be positive. That makes the most sense with the symptoms I have now. And I am actually hoping that is the result, because there are 4 month treatment cures for Hepatitis C now (just in the past year or so become available), but one problems is the treatments cost ~ $85,000 and I don't have that much money, and even if I had health insurance (which I don't), they wouldn't pay for it until my liver reaches cirrhosis. But I did read one of the treatment regimens is available for example in Egypt for $300 per month.

So hopefully later today I will have more clarity on what I am dealing with.

Normally with Hepatitis C once a person reaches the stage I am in now, then they lose their ability to work, etc.. But I suppose radical improvement in diet might stave it off and improve matters enough to get a few more months of productivity. I was able to code an entire dating/social network site Spring of 2015, so it is only since about July 2015 that I become totally incapable of sustaining the type of concentration and man-hours one needs to gain momentum with coding.

Back on the topic of anonymity and privacy, I think there may be a market for this especially corporations are going to want this. And I think it may be possible to integrate this with the type of overhaul of Satoshi's design that I am contemplating. But I don't believe the first priority is to integrate that, because first we need to make crypto currency popular. Also I think the privacy technology that will end up integrating best and also work the best for corporations will be based on zk-snarks, not based on RingCT (otherwise I wouldn't have stopped trying to get my alternative design for RingCT which employs the apparently more efficient CCT instead of CT). It is possible I am missing some key details which will make my assumption incorrect. As all programmers know, the devil is in the details and I have not been trying to integrate on chain privacy with my contemplated overhaul yet.

As I said, if I was healthy I'd be all over this and I would be silent, because I'd be having too much fun coding. I am talking probably because I don't feel well and I am not able to do what I love to do. Reflecting a bit, I think I developed an addiction for posting on these forums, because for one thing it was necessary for my learning curve in 2013 but also it became a crutch for what I apparently lost the ability to do. Yesterday I was sitting in front of the computer trying to work, but even last night I realized I couldn't speak well to my gf. When one doesn't have the energy to speak clearly (tongue tied), then that can explain why they can't also do any coding. I really think it would be difficult for another person to understand if they didn't have experience with a similar type of illness. I also can't understand why I can write and analyze on the forum, but it doesn't translate into same ability to code. I think the difference is that writing and analyzing is much less intensive, because it is small morsels. Whereas with coding, one loads up a lot of information and variables and has to sustain several hours of concentration to get anything at all accomplished on some snippet of code.

I think Monero has a very good shot of taking over the privacy realm, but I think after you get RingCT and GUI wallet done, you need to start looking at zk-snarks. If ever I can get healthy, and if ever I do actually produce some code for an overhaul of Satoshi's design, at that point I think there could be a consideration of a meeting of the minds. Any way, what ever I do will be open sourced upon release, so you all can integrate or cherry pick even without my involvement. Right now, the key is that if I can't get healthy, then I am just a windpipe.

Genuine question, how do you envision companies using Zcash without having such a thing as a viewkey?

Also, this new blog post might interested you

https://z.cash/blog/snark-parameters.html

P.S. Best of luck with getting healthy again.
1822  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 29, 2016, 09:41:27 PM
Some TA:

http://themerkle.com/technicalanalysis/monero-technical-analysis-for-02292016/
1823  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: February 29, 2016, 09:08:49 PM
Many people have been asking for this, so here it is!

An extensive guide for securely generating an offline cold paper wallet:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/48cgmd/an_extensive_guide_for_securely_generating_an/
1824  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 29, 2016, 09:08:38 PM
Many people have been asking for this, so here it is!

An extensive guide for securely generating an offline cold paper wallet:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/48cgmd/an_extensive_guide_for_securely_generating_an/
1825  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 29, 2016, 07:15:13 PM
zcash team is still researching How To Generate SNARK Parameters Securely

This is a oversimplified article about a very complex problem.

Some interesting stuff in that blog. First:

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So does this fix the problem? We think this solution is good enough to move ahead with. It completely eliminates the toxic waste private key if it works, and it would be extremely difficult for any adversary to defeat it.

I really don't like the wording "good enough". There could literally be billions of dollars on the line in the future.

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Unfortunately there is no way to confirm, after the fact, that it actually worked. It will always be possible to worry that all N out of N of the participants may have secretly colluded together to share their private key shards, or that all N out of N participants may have had their computers compromised by an adversary who stole all of the private key shards.

This is a major hurdle as well. The original cryptocurrency concept as envisioned by Satoshi is about being decentralized and trustless. Alas, Zcash won't be either of them.
1826  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 29, 2016, 07:01:41 PM
and 15 million USD
Oh, that, LOL. Forgot to mention that. Dunno, but they have it, and we don't. It's yet another strength that they have, and that we have to somehow overcome. Have to hit'em where they ain't. Dogecoin did it with a mascot and a friendly community.

How're we going to do it? Don't know. When some guy attacks me, and he has 50 pounds on me, well, that's an advantage, maybe an unfair one, but I have to overcome it. Or die.

Ethereum is that guy rushing us with 'roid rage, and we're complaining about the illegal juice?!?! Good luck with that.

We have technical superiority. 

Ring signatures in our core are pretty badass.  Privacy and untraceability are not add-ons, or plugins, or features still to be implemented for Monero.

Other coins are touting their privacy as "soon" while their accessibility is "now".  We have the opposite approach - but popular opinion seems to prefer the former.

Very much agree on the technical superiority. But what good is that if not enough people know about it? Based on market caps, Monero's technical superiority is not enough to overcome its marketing inferiority (sorry, it pains me to write this). We are the 98 pound genius weakling at the beach. We are still going to get sand kicked in our face. We need to be all 'round good, not excellent, or even the best in some areas, but pitifully deficient in others.

Fluffypony's presence at the Satoshi Roundtable is already a huge improvent over the status quo. Furthermore, I think in the upcoming months this will only get better.
1827  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 29, 2016, 05:30:27 PM
Why after all this time there is still no GUI and Poloniex is still a single point of failure?
...of course, the real question to ask, is what have you done after all this time to fix these problems?
Unfair to shame an obvious Monero supporter, who may be unable to do the coding or lobbying which needs to be done. I can’t do it either. Which is why I refrain from commenting, usually. Because I do feel guilty about not doing these things, which, btw, I CAN’T do anyway. I don’t sing the national anthem at the Superbowl either, and anyone with ears should be grateful for that.

The only thing I can do is talk up Monero on this, or other (seemingly unrelated) forums, spread teh word among my friends and acquaintances etc. Is it a lot? No. What do Warren Buffet’s stockholders do for Berkshire Hathaway?

My fear is that we will miss this black swan event, because (among other things) we have no official gui, and only a tiny exchange called Poloniex. Will these issues be resolved before China’s move towards capital controls becomes a fait accompli?

And before Ethereum co-opts Monero’s strengths, or at least, enough of them to induce Cryptospace to embrace them (even more), while ignoring Monero, which, while still technically superior, remains Marketing-Challenged.

Ethereum has time, and timing on their side, as the #2 coin. It has user adoption, a thriving community, without even being finished. OK, no cute mascot. Still, if this event happens, say, in the next month, will Monero be ready to benefit from it? Because even rent by civil war, Hearnia, and constrained capacity, Bitcoin is. Even unfinished, Ethereum is. But Monero? Not so much. Even Dogecoin is! Such Sad, Very Despair.

You make a few good points and I have said earlier that we shouldn't be so harsh on other guys (who might be unable to do anything) or newcomers. However, at this point the only thing we can do with respect to the GUI is wait until it is finished. Bear in mind that people are now actively working on it, see for instance:

https://github.com/mbg033?tab=activity

https://github.com/mbg033/bitmonero

https://github.com/mbg033/monero-core
1828  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 29, 2016, 01:44:55 AM
Why is the XMR blockchain so bloated?

It's about 2-3 GB, which I don't consider bloated. The main reason it is even that large was a bug in the early pool software, long since fixed (blocks temporarily got very large around block 100K).

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Because due to the insanity of default anonymity

There has been no default anonymity and won't be for another month or so, so obviously this has nothing to do with it. For better or worse about 80% of the transactions have been done without mixing (rough figure, the exact number has changed over time).

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the only way to prevent double-spending is to keep track of every freaking spent key image, thus creating basically a second blockchain within the blockchain.

The spent key images are tiny, so no, that isn't a large part it at all.



In addition, Darksend transactions are relatively large as well. Therefore, if such a thing gets enforced at the protocol level (and thus mandatory) the DASH blockchain will "bloat" too.
1829  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 29, 2016, 01:37:28 AM
:-)


1830  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 29, 2016, 01:21:57 AM
Oh btw, just saw this on Twitter :-)

https://twitter.com/fluffyponyza/status/704113681219624960
1831  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 29, 2016, 01:19:57 AM
(the instant "mixing" on the monero network)
instant???
a monero guy did a test a while back and he said it took him around 10 minutes to mix just a few dollars worth of monero. how long to mix a few hundred worth of monero? how about a few thousand?

There's no "mixing" in Monero, as something you absolutely need to do before you get going. It just happens on every transactions, without you doing anything special. It also doesn't require others to be active, connected, or to send transactions at the same time as you.
The term "mixing" is in fact very misleading, it applies perfeclty to coinjoin which Dash uses, but poorly to ring-signatures which Monero partly rely on. (Partly because there's more to the privacy aspect than just ring sigs. Anyway wrong thread for this and probably for your questions too).



In addition, there is no difference in time between a 100 XMR transaction or a 1000 XMR transactions. The transaction gets included into the next block (block times are 1 minute, will switch to 2 minutes soon for security reasons). Pretty much works the same as Bitcoin to the extent that you have to wait a few confirmations to safely "confirm" your transaction. However, bear in mind that Monero isn't constraint by a blocksize limit because it has an adaptive blocksize limit which is described here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/45b8qn/my_journey_to_finding_monero_and_some_questions/czwlcdb
1832  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 29, 2016, 12:48:02 AM

i'm really not interested in this tainted update, tungfa.
 
all i get out of it is Monero giving nothing about privacy (after all this was suppose to be a private meeting), having a thing against redheads and pretty much
confirming to the world they have a Trollero cult inside Monero.

i rather see a post from someone of Dash inside there, how they experienced it. What kind of connections they made, what they learned from each other .. etc  

Monero nor Fluffypony is in no way affliated with Bitcoin Uncensored, they used to "trash talk" Monero as well before. Example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOp47r1r7XQ

They also did this numerous time on their podcast. They changed their view when Fluffypony was a guest on their show and explained them everything.

Furthermore, the Bitcoin Uncensored guys were the ones who were not invited, not Fluffypony. They simply asked him if he wanted to join on their "interview/show" while they were there, just like Roger Ver and Charlie Lee for example.



Regarding privacy, it was allowed to send out updates as far as I know, just not audio/video livestreams.
1833  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: February 29, 2016, 12:17:17 AM
MAAM #5: "Monero Ask Anything Monday"!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4877ew/maam_5_monero_ask_anything_monday/
1834  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 29, 2016, 12:17:01 AM
MAAM #5: "Monero Ask Anything Monday"!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4877ew/maam_5_monero_ask_anything_monday/
1835  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 28, 2016, 09:48:32 PM

Interestingly I found out a few weeks ago (courtesy of TPTB_need_war) that Zerocash (Zcash) doesn't have such a thing as a viewkey. The first Wired article states:

In my opinion, this is a huge advantage for Monero.
 
  
The words 'huge advantage' are a gross understatement here.  This isn't just about taxation and legal compliance.  There are entire classes of necessary applications that cannot exist without a viewkey.  
  
For example, let's say you and I use Monero tokens to enable a digital contract that only we know about.  First of all, this is an unpondered Monero killer-app: irreversible private contracts that two entities can make without the need for anyone else to ever know.  
  
But it's the view key that makes this possible, because without that we would need to give someone access to the edit the underlying contract to prove it exists.  This is a huge nail in the coffin for Zerocash.  
  
Will it eventually exist and be useful for some things?  Yes.  But Monero will still be superior.

That's kind of a poor example, because they kind of did that 2 days ago already:

https://bitcoincore.org/en/2016/02/26/zero-knowledge-contingent-payments-announcement/

A better example would be Company A that has to hand over all their transactions (expenditures, income/revenue, and perhaps balances of certain accounts) to an auditing firm (or the IRS) for a certain fiscal year.

Note: I know the viewkey only shows incoming transactions, but it is possible to show outgoing transactions (and thus balance) as well. In other words, the protocol allows this. It's a bit more different than we initially thought to the extent that it's not simply "give them a key and tell them to scan".
1836  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: February 28, 2016, 09:33:02 PM
@Fluffy, Error while sending.

Code:
A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. You can stop the script now, open the script in the debugger, or let the script continue.

Script: https://mymonero.com/js/crypto.js?1:1


Next error:

Code:
Something unexpected occurred when submitting your transaction: Invalid transaction

Signed out and tried again and got while sending:

Code:
Failed to get unspent outs

Back to this.

Code:
Something unexpected occurred when submitting your transaction: Invalid transaction

General remark here, if you incur an error please contact support (as well) -> support[at]mymonero[dot]com
1837  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 28, 2016, 09:26:05 PM
...

Is this bad or very bad for monero?

Neither, It has zero effect. We are all well aware of that project and whenever it finishes it still will not effect XMR. Patching a leaking boat will not make it float as long as a hull made of better materials.

Interestingly I found out a few weeks ago (courtesy of TPTB_need_war) that Zerocash (Zcash) doesn't have such a thing as a viewkey. The first Wired article states:

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But Zerocoin’s new AngelList page also notes that if necessary, the same zero-knowledge proof trick can also allow a zerocoin user to forego that privacy and choose to reveal proof that any individual transaction was his or hers—say, as a receipt for some zerocoin purchase. “We are adding *selective disclosure* to Bitcoin and Blockchain technologies,” the AngelList page reads. “Transaction metadata in the Blockchain is confidential by default but can be disclosed to specific parties. This allows the best of both worlds: both strong privacy and transparency on the Blockchain.”

Initially, this seems to be some kind of viewkey. However, I found out that this is actually some sort of key that one can reveal on a case by case basis, which Monero also has (the tx key).

Info about the tx key:

...
Whether Monero exists as a test bed for features that will be assimilated into bitcoin, or Monero will simply live as a parallel, opaque option to the transparent bitcoin chain, or perhaps just take over and leave bitcoin in the dust. All this will play out.
...

One of my favorite things about Monero is how it can exist as both opaque and transparent.  If I wish for an account to be transparent, I can simply expose my viewkey.

The view key is well known, but it can be a blunt instrument, since it reveals all payments for the entire lifetime of an account (including past and future). It is less known that you can disclose individual payments on a case by case basis, as needed:

In case Alice wants to prove she sent a transaction to Bob’s address she can either disclose r or use any kind of zero-knowledge protocol to prove she knows r (for example by signing the transaction with r)


In my opinion, this is a huge advantage for Monero.
1838  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is a stampede for DASH Masternode redemption about to begin? on: February 28, 2016, 01:14:38 PM
Seriously, just close these threads and stick to the ANN or Speculation. It's getting annoying.
1839  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DASH scam exposed at Satoshi Roundtable REKD on: February 28, 2016, 12:43:33 PM
I fail to see the purpose of opening these threads. I already posted the interview in both of Monero's regular threads. Frankly, I am a bit annoyed you opened one.

It would be good if you just close this thread, it doesn't really have a purpose.
1840  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: February 28, 2016, 12:28:09 PM

Name ONE well respected bitcoin developer who has vouched for DASH (with a source).

Monero has many and the list is growing:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/46gfgv/list_of_prominent_bitcoin_people_that_spoke/

I wish I valued "pats on the back" from the bitcoin devs as much as you do.

It'd sure be a whole lot cheaper for me  Wink


Unfortunately I expected this response. Evan is currently at a retreat with dozens of bitcoin leaders and you cannot name one respected person who supports DASH.

I am not seeing the purpose of posting such a thing here in their thread. Aimed at TechorMarketing btw.
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