We all knew that $ 6,000 to $ 10,000. I did not sell because of it. the next target for me is 14400 american dollars. we will go to the moon after we have passed 14400.
Where did you get $14.4k from? I wouldn't say that price of BTC will "moon", though. The chances of another all time high for this year is probably a lot less than last year's, in which it was breaking records basically every single month of the year. Price is above 5 figures right now, and if we don't see the pump soon, there may be a correction down below $10k. I'm not saying that it's not a good time to buy, but as I said, there may be a short term correction coming. |
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Message: This is alia_armelle from bitcointalk.
Signature: HB3MHw+fk12Rg0uZ5tjO+7MYQyq7tPyLQHeoCUHGZP1eEIj/69NetQOPi9yQOVNLHa48/JNshr3/voM6s0uHYI0= Try adding the address which you signed the address from.
As for your terms, I think that it's generally fair for no ID transactions. However, 20% for 0-50 and 15% for $50-200 is worse or equal to virwox rates. I think that you should probably rethink that, potentially do 0-200 is just 15%. Are the funds going straight to your supplier, or going through your pp then to your supplier? Beware of chargebacks... I know that you know the drill with paypal, and I know that your country's police force is great. But if anyone's trying to buy BTC off you in the $10k-100k range for a 10% premium without ID, it's dodgy af. Otherwise they would withdraw the money and get like 1-2% over spot on major exchanges. Supplier may even blame you for chargebacks, if they do occur. Otherwise, good luck with your venture! Nice to see another pp to BTC exchange service. Thank you! Address added. The funds may or may not go to me directly depending on whether my supplier is online or not. I'll consider reducing the fee if this service picks up steam. Hmm, yeah. The only problem I see with having you receiving is that the transfer fees will affect your profitability a lot. And since Paypal charges a percentage fee, it's not like the more you send the less you pay like bitcoin tx fees. unless you're sending as friends and family, in which case your account can easily get flagged by Paypal and frozen. I had that happen to a lot of friends. After all paypal makes money off their goods and services transfers. So either that, or you just have to make sure that you compensate losses on your supplier's end in case anyone does pull a chargeback on you. BTW, out of curiosity, which country's police force are you talking about?  |
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Message: This is alia_armelle from bitcointalk.
Signature: HB3MHw+fk12Rg0uZ5tjO+7MYQyq7tPyLQHeoCUHGZP1eEIj/69NetQOPi9yQOVNLHa48/JNshr3/voM6s0uHYI0= Try adding the address which you signed the address from.
As for your terms, I think that it's generally fair for no ID transactions. However, 20% for 0-50 and 15% for $50-200 is worse or equal to virwox rates. I think that you should probably rethink that, potentially do 0-200 is just 15%. Are the funds going straight to your supplier, or going through your pp then to your supplier? Beware of chargebacks... I know that you know the drill with paypal, and I know that your country's police force is great. But if anyone's trying to buy BTC off you in the $10k-100k range for a 10% premium without ID, it's dodgy af. Otherwise they would withdraw the money and get like 1-2% over spot on major exchanges. Supplier may even blame you for chargebacks, if they do occur. Otherwise, good luck with your venture! Nice to see another pp to BTC exchange service. |
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Care to explain in detail how you intend to circumvent the sanctions? Firstly, it is illegal to bypass international sanctions or to act as a conduit in aiding or abetting anyone targeted by such sanctions with a view to bypassing them.
Setting the illegality issue aside, I am interested in the methodology you have in mind. Not that I want to do something illegal or to participate in what you're offering. Nah, none of that.
I'm specifically interested in finding out what you have in mind with this "sanctions buster" model. Do you expect people to send those amounts mentioned above to you upfront? Is this offer something along the lines of requiring ICO funds sent to you without escrow protection? These two questions are what this post is mainly about.
Yes obviously upfront as I would have to subscribe to the ICO using the funds sent. I am not sure how escrow would be used here as I need to send the funds to receive tokens from each ICO... If there is a way escrow can be used, not a problem for me as long as the buyer pays the fee. Unfortunately there is no way around the trust aspect when using a proxy. Yes, I am well aware of the legality issues involved. I have also seen your posts for the last few months on the forum warning people when they are putting themselves at risk and though I do appreciate warning for newbies, or when someone is about to fall for an obvious scam, some posts on this forum are legitimate and do require a little trust, and when extended, they do work well. I have "gone first" several times and not been burned so I think if you do a little research and are comfortable with whom you are dealing with, odds are you will be ok. As much as I would like to believe you, as you're still a new member to the community, and you're offering a service in which you need other people to send first to you, there isn't really much of a safety net for anyone here. I would suggest building up a solid reputation, which could take a while, or use your own money to buy the tokens and and use escrow, before you consider offering this service to anyone. For example, if someone wants to buy x amount of tokens, you're essentially selling them the tokens with funds escrowed at a higher price. If you get what I mean. I don't think that there would be much of a legal issue this way, since it's just a trade between 2 parties. Consider what i'm saying. Otherwise nobody will use your service. Furthermore, try to reduce your fees. |
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i was expecting a faster rise after the $10k resistance was broken but it seems like there is no FOMO buying this time and we only have a slow rise which is a lot better because it is much more solid than a bunch of weak hands buying bitcoin out of fear but it means the $20k ATH will take a longer time to be reached.
good news is we won't get that many "bitcoin is a bubble" FUD for some time now.
Agreed. So far, people are keeping a cool head which is a good sign. If there is another FOMO and price rises fast then the crash will follow very soon after. We're not to the stage of FOMO yet, but it'll come soon in my opinion. But for now as you said, since bitcoin's rise has been gradual instead of just going straight up, there can't be any accusations of this being a bubble at least for the time being. Right now the market is still testing the waters with the new $10k floor. Once that floor is truly confirmed, which it isn't seeing from yesterday's correction back to $9900 before going back up, then we'll see another pump. |
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I personally look forward to the completion of the official weekend in China, and this is February 21, and further global growth! or I'm wrong?
I don't know. After this week, the Chinese New Year hype is going to die off somewhat. And that's when we can tell whether this pump is going to be an actual recovery from the previous fall from grace, or just a hyped up event that's pushing price up. If it did turn out to be a legit recovery, then I think that price is going to correct before going up. I can see BTC going to around $12k-13k in the near future, around next month if everything goes well. I can't really see it going much higher than that at this stage. Either way, it's pure speculation. Prices in reality are unpredictable. Just my 2 cents, if you like. |
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I found the side XMR.TO some time ago and found it to be a good way to exchange XMR to BTC and keep the privacy XMR offers. I gave it a try twice (small ammount of XMR). The exchange XMR -> BTC went flawless and instant.
Any more reviews about them?
I've used them a couple of times to get BTC, I think that rates are just a tiny bit better than shapeshift, but you get your orders sent out instantly if it's below 0.1 BTC per order. When I used them, the transactions were pretty much all instant as well. Not sure how much you can trust them with higher amounts but looking at everyone else's feedback, it's going to be alright. It's a great initiative... It essentially preserves your privacy and extends the functionality of bitcoin. Honestly, it's much more simpler to use than most other exchanges. If you are doing xmr to BTC transactions, use them. |
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Hello
there was so much good news for bitcoin in 2017. Alot positive news which took the price of the bitcoin to the moon at the end.
iam thinking , if even this news are coming back in 2018 it wont be anything new, so the price wont go again to the peak of maybe 20k$ ?
iam also a bit nervous at the present, as iam a long term holder since 2013 and i missed the train of the highest peak to sell. now the dilemma is at aprox 8-9k$ usd
i want your opinions about why the coin wont go up or will go up. ( which kind of things are in present that the price will go deeper and which kind of news will bee there that it will go back higher )?
If you are a holder from 2013 you have a lot of flexibility. You can either choose to hold onto your coins, sell now at around $10k, or sell at a later stage when price recovers even further, up to around $15-20k potentially. You have to really ask yourself these series of questions. Which one do you prefer? Are you just speculating on the mid term or are you a holder of bitcoin? If you need the cash, sell it for sure. But if you don't, then I suggest holding. 2017 is not the last era of bitcoin, don't forget that BTC is decentralized and it won't die until all adopters abandon it. That's the beauty of it. I wouldn't be too concerned if I were you, even if BTC crashed to $5k you'd have plenty of profits left, and if you're long term holding, then these fluctuations don't even matter. |
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Yobit is a scam, they not only emptied my wallets but deleted all my history too - it looks like a brand new account! I have proof of a transfer of 0.105 BTC from Bittrex to Yobit, and that was received on Yobit on 8th Jan. I then used that to buy 10,000,000 PAC, and I then had a PAC balance of 10,000,000 and a BTC balance of 0.005 (or maybe a bit less due to the transaction fee). But when I next logged in a month later, all balances are zero. The worst thing though is that there is absolutely nothing in my history, no record of the deposit of the 0.105 BTC, no record of the purchase of 10,000,000 PAC. There is no record of any activity ever in my account now, so it's either an honest mixup or outright theft. Obviously I logged a support ticket but no response whatsoever. I've also filed a report here just today, so anyone else having similar problems could try this - https://complaint.ic3.gov/default.aspx?#Wow, as bad yobit is, I've never seen them delete accounts outright and delete the history too. Don't expect anything from yobit support, because if you don't have any proof, not even any screenshots, then they're not going to be doing anything. Are you sure that you didn't login with an alternate account that you used that didn't have the money, though? If you received the transaction into your account, and already used it to buy PAC... And you can also confirm that it's the right account you're logging in with, then it's definitely something wrong with yobit. Good luck with resolving this, I just don't see it going too far though with the lack of proofs. |
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My fear has never been with price analysis or future stakes. It's always been about scalability and adoption. Cryptocurrencies have seen remarkable growth in the past 4 years and continue to show promise. But the one outstanding question is - how long before adoption port?
Mass adoption is always the eventual goal for bitcoin. I think that we're probably not to that stage right now, though. People aren't urged to use bitcoin in every day transactions. They just see it as a speculative tool, which it naturally is but defintley isn't the only thing that it is capable of doing. I actually think that come another GFC we'll see bitcoin adoption go up as a result. When people lose confidence in central banks, that's when they'll switch to BTC on a massive scale. Before that I think we'll just continue to see pumps here and there, every halving. |
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I don't know if this man is serious about the crypto itself but I find him very interesting as he's one of the defender when there's a FUD before when Dimon stepped in and tells that bitcoin is a fraud.
McAfee is a loser and a fud spreader. At the time Binance was offline, he started spreading fud making it look like they were hacked. If that isn't a nasty practice of him, then I don't know how high your standards are. What I find even more funny, or pathetic, is that he keeps has been recommending his Twitter followers to buy certain absolute shitcoins. He has even claimed that his account was hacked once, while it wasn't the case. Like seriously, you're a billionaire already, why all this effort to gain a few thousand bucks off of innocent people and noobs? He's tarnishing his own reputation for pocket change. He is mentally challenged I believe. I agree. Even though he seems to be a defender of bitcoin, I don't approve of his methods. He's making bitcoin look more like bitconnect than an actual long term venture that is supposed to be revolutionizing the world. There is a 99.99999% chance that his speculation won't be redeemed, and he probably won't redeem his promises either. Making outlandish claims about bitcoin's pricing in the future, without any basis is more misleading than anyone else. Even long term bulls like me and many other people will say with certainty that BTC's price will not go to what McAfee claims it will go to. |
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I would rather put it this way "Be careful with Paypal trades on LocalBitcoins"
I have been using LBC for ages and without any problems till date.In my region,most of the payment methods are done though Bank Transfers and there is not much a scammer can do because I will only release the escrow if the payment is credited in my bank account.Bank account deposits are not reversible so if I confirm money is credited in my account,we're good to go.
On the other side,the case is not the same with Paypal.
Bank transfers are still reversible. Anything centralized, is. Just because it's not common for it to be reversed, doesn't mean it can't ever happen. Generally I prefer to deal with nothing that can trace who I am and who the seller is on localbitcoins. That includes bank transfers. If the seller uses a hacked account to buy your bitcoins, then you may be in serious trouble by law enforcement. That's why I like cash deposits, cash in mail to a p.o. box, etc. But paypal's a no brainer. If you need paypal you should use coinbase, even people on currency exchange board on this forum is probably going to be more trustworthy to deal with paypal, since if anything goes wrong you can report them. Localbitcoins won't care after escrow is done. Even if they do there is nothing they can do about it, they don't have the money in escrow any more. |
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Here's my predictions. Bitcoin will settle around 8-8.5k over the weekend. But it's all guess work.
BTC seems to be establishing itself well above $10k now. Already up 5%. Doesn't it look similar to the rise in value which took us from sub $10000 to over $12k within a day or two last time? I think that there is a high possibility that we'll get to $12k sooner than we get to $8-8.5k. Though, I'm still cautious. A lot of people saying it's a dead cat's bounce, which I think could be possible. I'd hold onto my long term coins for now and not buy in any for short term trading. |
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Any one that got scammed by bit connect is a scammer as well.
Where did you think the interest was coming from folks? it was coming from those people you falsely led to a ponzi to get scammed so that you could get paid your profits ( lets call it loot)
The biggest scammers in the bitconnect scam are: - The founders - The regional marketers/organizers - Trevon James/Cryptonick/ Craig Grant. I would definitely say that if you were investing in a ponzi scheme as well as promoting it knowingly, then you're a scammer in this scheme as well. But this is the destructive force of MLM schemes, word spreads quickly and there is no logic in decisions. Cryptonick/Trevon James are examples of these kind of people who know that they are getting their subscribers to do something that will result in them losing their money 100%, but still doing it. But if you were just an investor that got scammed by the whole thing and lost money, and you thought you were investing in something legit... I wouldn't call someone like that a scammer. |
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Me planning to invest 1k $ like getting rent of cloud mining of 5gh in hashflare.io website service does anyone has good experience with it ...
plz suggest can i trust them ? im planning for 1 year plan
or is there any best way to invest 1k $ worth btc anywhere without trading cause me dont know anything about trading so dont suggest it ...
waiting for best suggestion !
Don't invest in Hashflare. If you do, expect: 1. Your contract be reduced in length without your consent 2. Your minimum withdrawal amount being increased by many times, without any notification or written consent from you 3. Pretty much less than 50% chance of you making a profit, even if BTC is going up while your cloud mining contract is active. These are all things that hashflare has done in the past... So they can definitely do it again, and you're the one that's suffering from this. Keep the $1k in BTC, if you're going to invest in cloud mining anyways just keep the BTC. You're speculating on BTC price both ways. |
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I'm not sure if reporting twice is a good or a bad thing. For example, I reported this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167635.msg28858853#msg28858853 advertising spam a few weeks back and when the (abandoned) thread got bumped again yesterday it was still there so I reported it again. I think a lot of reports go unhandled as there aren't enough mods to deal with them so by reporting again you might increase the chances of it getting deleted. The other side of that is obviously I don't want to spam the mods with reports so I only do it when it's been a long time that the post hasn't been dealt with. It would be interesting to know what the mods think to your suggestion. Would it be a help or a hindrance to them? Well it doesn't hurt if there is an indicator of it being reported. It's just a message saying that it's been reported, and if anyone wants to report it again, then they will be welcome to do so to potentially bump up the priority. I like this idea as well, make this info for everyone to see so that people don't unnecessarily/unknowingly report the same post twice, I guess. Though I'm not sure that this is going to be in the top priority list for theymos and staff to implement, though. The merit system is already taking away a lot of load from post reporting it seems. Not sure if they will find time for something that is really optional at this point. |
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$10k is broken and with this a lot of messages of people that sold at below $6000 trying to "cut their losses". Mostly because a lot of people was about to go bankrupt as their longs got liquidated. And with this, also came the super bears expecting $1000 a coin again, so they put really aggressive shorts, of course, only to get destroyed by the current recovery.
Lessons to learn for the noobs: Never panic sell, never margin trade, you can FOMO if you are here for the long term (5 to 10 years) since it doesn't matter if you bought at $20k or at $5k as BTC will be worth millions eventually.
A lot of people have done this... And I really don't get it why they do it at all. If you were investing in bitcoin then surely you know what bitcoin's all about and you are a believer in the technology right? Bitcoin hasn't fundamentally changed a bit throughout all this fluctuation, so why are you selling? Every single time that this situation pops up, it seems like panic sellers come out of hiding and try to cut their losses. And it almost never works. There are going to be eventually a 6 figure bitcoin, 7 figure bitcoin. It doesn't really matter since fiat is going to be worthless in the end and bitcoin may even become the definition of value, since it is decentralized. No good trying too much on short term trading, especially if you try to chase the most popular investments and sell when it's not popular. |
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Bitcoin climbed back above $10,000 Thursday for the first time in two weeks and some analysts see the psychologically key level as a trigger for new buyers to come into the market.
Yep, new buyers will think that $10k is cheap psychologically. They've seen how fast a climb bitcoin had when bitcoin hit $10k the first time round, and obviously they'll be inclined to think that this time will be no different. It honestly is all psychology, because people seem to be reluctant to buy at below $10k, yet now BTC has resurfaced above 5 figures they seem to be keen at investing in bitcoin again. It's always interesting to see people making irrational decisions. Another reason why you should never get caught up with short term fluctuations. Instead, shift your focus to the longer term. |
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Firstly it took weeks to validate my account, they insisted it was my email addresss that was broken despite the fact that it worked fine for everything else.
Secondly it took weeks for my card to be validated and it never did become fully validated (again they blamed my email!!) so I'm stuck with small limits and high fees.
Thirdly, a few weeks ago they decided that everyone had to make a minimal deposit in order to revaludate their Visa cards. Without doing this, no money could be withdrawn from the exchange. So I deposited the minimal amount as instructed and was charged for doing so.
Now, just weeks later they have decided that everyone must YET AGAIN deposit another "minimal amount" in order to revalidate their cards - otherwise GBP cannot be withdrawn.
So YET AGAIN I've had to deposit more money, for which I have been charged AGAIN for a transaction I had no option but to make and now I'm told they have a back log do it will be some time before my card is validated. In the meantime, all my money is stuck in there. It's beyond frustrating now and bordering on ridiculous.
It's starting to look like a massive scam. In order to get your money out you need to keep paying them more money?!
Anyone else having this trouble with them? Are they a scam?
It's not just you having problems with cex.io at the moment, but your problem with the validation of cards is definitely one of a kind. I don't get why you have to validate their card in order to withdraw a sum from their site. Maybe I'm missing something here, but just looking at your post it doesn't really make sense for them to do so. Your balance should be independent from everything else. Can you still trade GBP for BTC, then withdraw the BTC? If that's possible then just do that. The most common problem people have with CEX is with the withdrawals, they mark withdrawals complete but in fact nothing has been sent. |
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