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2981  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Shapeshift.io possible Scam Alert! Read my story. on: December 15, 2017, 10:18:30 AM
not sure if shapeshift a scam or not but i've contacted them thru website form about an issue i encountered but so far (2 days and 13 minutes) as of now i still haven't heard from them yet.....on a seperate issue bittrex is worse tried opening account since slightly over a month ago only receive automated like reply (asking not to flood them with further ticket) and account still not open yet.....very dissapointed  Sad

Shapeshift might take a wihle ot get back to you but they will eventually. Pretty sure that it should be clear to anyone using their service that they are definitely init for the long term and not just here to selectively scam some random guy for pennies.

Just wait for your response and you should be good.

The main problem that i have with them is actually the way they charge bitcoin fees, 0.003 BTC is ridiculous and they should really reduce it. Even in the high fee season like right now, it doesn't take me 0.003 BTC to send a transaction that has 3-4 inputs.
2982  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Hitbtc.com is SCAM! 19 BTC on: December 15, 2017, 09:45:51 AM
So it's not just individual scammers to be wary about these days. We now have exchanges perpetrating full blown scams. This is why common sense is important when transacting with anyone, even exchanges. This also explains why bitcoin is going through rough roads in the process of being recognized and accepted as a legitimate currency. For one, scams are rampant. It is extremely hard to police these transactions (ironically it's the policing part we all hate too).

The most damning challenge faced by bitcoiners is the extreme difficulty in buying or selling them SAFELY. And if ever there was a way to buy them legitimately, it takes ages.. literally forever.. to finish the transaction. So many identity verification steps and security procedures. Some could argue that a SWIFT transfer from one bank to another is faster, thus negating the need for this new form of payment method.

Back to topic. So this exchange took your 19 BTC and is giving you the silent treatment. I commented months ago on their ANN thread about my suspicions and the thread's moderator quickly defended himself. Oh well, fast forward, I now see it was all part of one big elaborate and sophisticated fraud operation.

Stop storing your coins on exchanges.




Can't stress what you're saying enough.

People these days seem to think that it's a great idea to keep their funds on an exchange even though it's probably an absolutely terrible idea. If you're storing large amounts with an exchange that has a shady past and isn't really recognized as a legit exchange that has a long running history, then you are going to get scammed eventually by one of them.

In this case, it seems to be a 18-19 BTC loss, which is a lot more than what i have in total.

NEVER store this amount of cash on exchanges. If you want to do trades, do them in blocks of 5 BTC even, so that if they do defraud you, you've still got the majority of your funds.
2983  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Hashflare.io SCAM WARNING: Takes BTC, Provides Nothing, Doesnt Reply on: December 15, 2017, 09:42:39 AM
I bought 100 TH/s on hashflare 24 hours ago but nothing credited yet and status is shown in hashflare as 'pending'.  0.9 btc sent to the correct address now with 142 confirmations. 

Order number. #5533634.  Fingers crossed it comes through once they read my support ticket.  Cry


If your case is similar to OP's it seems like you'll get yours credited eventually, but you just need some patience.

Not sure why you would invest 0.9 BTC into cloud mining, especially with a site that might not even be legitimately mining with the invested funds of the customers. They may already be having issues with paying out people considering the amount of trouble they've had previously that had to be tamed by scamming customers and increasing minimum withdrawal for no reason.

Just keep your BTC, you'll probably make more than if you invested.
2984  Economy / Speculation / Re: Calling top at $16500 on: December 15, 2017, 09:37:47 AM
Yes thats what is freaking me out, it doesn't make any sense. A parabolic run up like this has *always* ended with a significant correction in the past, followed by a longer retrace and then a new bottom higher than the previous ATH, to springboard off.


Paradigm shift.

Bitcoin is not a stock, it is a revolution.



That may be true, but we have come a long way from 2009. Bitcoin has now become big enough to be a separate asset class. With a large number of investors, it might very well start behaving like a stock in terms of price.

Exactly, right now people are using bitcoin as a speculative tool, instead of what it was initially intended to be as - a currency, an asset, a store of value. People that joined in 2017 onto the train do not understand that bitcoin can crash, and it can stay low for many years. All they've seen is a booming bitcoin that never stops and that feeds itself into the bubble.

So yeah, in a sense, it is like stocks, perhaps even more speculative. Bitcoin techonolgy is a revelation but right now, that technoolgy isn't used much.

There is going to be a top for sure, but $16500 is not it. We're going to hit $20k, even though it may be a bubble.
2985  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you regret selling your BTCs? on: December 15, 2017, 09:30:35 AM
I don't regret using my BTC to buy items (after all BTC is meant to be used) , but it can be quite galling when I look at my purse account order history and it bugs out and says things like I bought a Sonos 1 player and it tells me I paid 3K for it as that's the current value of the bitcoins I spent to buy it.

I do regret selling the ones I sold to take profits along the way.

Exactly, what can you do? Not buy whatever you needed at the time just because of you thinking that bitcoin was going to rise? that's absurd and even if you were a savvy investor, you probably woudl have never predicted that bitcoin would hit $10k a few months back, let alone $17k.

These things are all quite circumstantial and i'd say 9/10 times a rally this size wouldn't have happened in the same scenario.

Anyways, we all have our regrets, but as long as you've profited i don't see much of a problem. At least you didn't make a loss, don't be a greedy shit and tihnk that you can time your exits well every single time, it's just not going to happen.
2986  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC price prediction for December 31, 2017 on: December 15, 2017, 09:22:00 AM
Ok, so there is a new year coming up soon, but let's speculate of where Bitcoin will finish the year. So, I say the best way to do this is to put your high of the day & low of the day price for Bitcoin on December 31. Also, if you're a bull, then you can just put the high & if you're a bear, then you can just put the low. But just as an example, I will put both.

We will use UTC for the official end of 2017.

Here is my pick for December 31, 2017

High of the Day: $22,750
Low of the Day: $21,250

If bitcoin does hit $20k before christmas then these figures are extremely likely actually.

I definitely would not be surprised if your predictions come true, since we seem to be initiating a renewed rally right now. as i said - once the $20000 barrier is done, then your predictions can actually be an underestimation.

Though if we don't see much pumps soon, then it could mean that $20k will be hit next year and not this year. It's all speculation at this point and honestly nobody knows for sure, and it goes without saying.
2987  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: I am so dumb! Localbitcoins on: December 15, 2017, 09:18:33 AM
I made my first purchase through localbitcoins today. I bought $224.00 worth of bitcoin for $875.00 Angry

I did not realize it until after it was too late. I foolishly thought I just type in the amount in USD and that was how much BTC I got. Im so mad a myself. Then I realized after that the seller had the value of one btc at $51,000!!! Aside from an idiot like me. Who would pay that for a bitcoin when its not worth near that much.

Ok rant over!

It's obviously your fault for not checking beforehand. Localbitcoins is a trading platform, not a vending site. They don't actually set the prices meaning that prices can't be regulated and you'll find a lot of outliers here and there.

$50k is obviously way too much to pay for a bitcoin at current prices.

But keep in mind that if you're paying with unpopular payment methods such as gift cards, you can actually expect to pay these sort of premiums and perhaps you were getting the best deal for your payment method after all.
2988  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will reach 20k price point before Christmas on: December 14, 2017, 09:27:08 AM
Judging the pattern and graph, I believe each btc will cost 20k before Christmas arrives. What do you think?

Yeah, judging from how bitcoin has moved through the past few weeks i think the rally to push us over $20k real soon. Although, i'm not quite sure if Christmas is going to be enough time for that rally to develop fully.

Judging the pattern and graph, I believe each btc will cost 20k before Christmas arrives. What do you think?

It may , it may not.. everything can happened and that is possible.

Pattern, graphs, chart analyzation etc. will tell us where it "should" lead but a crazy pump or dump that will happened along the way will spoiled the analyzation. If it will not happened before Christmas then no worries as chances for that to happened are really closed to reality.

I think the current bitcoin price is a good gift for Christmas already. Smiley

Exactly. I think at this point, really there is nothing that can accurately model bitcoin's growth curve. It's just exceeding expectations but sometimes when people forecast it to go up, it doens't go up that much at all. But generally in the medium-long term you'll find predicting price quite easily.

That's why i think that christmas $20k prediction may be too rushed, for security, give it a month's time or so.
2989  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Cant cancel or execute -Stuck Order on Bittrex on: December 14, 2017, 09:03:51 AM
Good to hear that you got your order cancelled eventually.

My guess would be that you actually cancelled it the first time you clicked it but because of some bug on bittrex's end your order still shows up as active even though the order is actually cancelled. So when you were clicking to cancel the order, it was already non-existent. I could be way off but that could be what happened.

Anyways, be careful trading with bittrex overall since they've got a ton of problems with accounts being limited to 0 withdrawals recently and legacy account rights being taken away from account owners.
2990  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Poloniex withdrawal delays on: December 14, 2017, 08:45:12 AM
So I've been waiting on a withdrawal of LTC from Poloniex (~0.3LTC) for two days now.. the withdrawal is 'awaiting approval' and in the meantime I have been able to withdraw smaller amounts without problems. I am a verified user.
Poloniex are not responding to support tickets and i'm wondering if i'll ever see my coins in my wallet.

So very annoying, is anyone else having the same issue?

It is indeed very annoying as a user. A lot of people are having the same issue with poloniex, with withdrawals and support. Actually, it's been that way ever since May/June that they started to really mess up their customer service by removing the trollbox.

The withdrawal may simply be pending authorization from a higher level on poloniex right now, since it is a higher amount. This seems to be the only explanation for the delay because the rest of your withdrawals are going through no problems.

There is a chance that you may never get your funds back, but i wish you all the luck. All you can do is really just be patient and wait.
2991  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Does the Cryptopia withdraw fee .002 BTC includes BTC transfer fee? on: December 14, 2017, 08:41:22 AM
So my question is:

if .002 BTC is the fee of Cryptopia's BTC withdraw fee, does it include also BTC transfer fee? Or the BTC transfer fee is separate fee?

So which one is correct for Cryptopia:

withdraw fee = .002 BTC = (BTC withdraw fee + BTC transfer fee wallet to wallet)

or

withdraw fee = .002 BTC = (BTC withdraw fee - BTC transfer fee wallet to wallet)

Yes it includes everything. Technically they aren't actually charging any withdrawal fees but they are actually just charging you what they pay on average for a withdrawal attempt, aka what they pay to miners to get a prioritised transaction.

They don't have a percentage withdrawal fee, either.

Quite straightforward, really. Take whatever amount you are planning on deducting from your account, subtract 0.002 BTC, and you get the amount you'll get.
2992  Economy / Exchanges / Re: XMR deposits not funded by poloniex! on: December 11, 2017, 10:01:38 AM
I've sent about 6 deposits to my account on poloniex.com. Everytime I sent XMR address was the same and now it's still not changed.
But only 3 of my deposits was funded by poloniex. Others - just not come and nothing informs me that they will be funded in near time.

Is there any other has such a problem?

I've created ticket to their support about that accident, but seems they never reply to tickets.

Any advices why poloniex not funding XMR ?  is there any other who has such a problem? Huh

Not sure but they have clearly got issues with their deposits/withdrawals as well as support so i wouldn't really be that confident when i use them and something goes wrong. There is just nothing that has got my back basically in case something goes wrong.

No idea what's causing it and seems like you got your deposit finally, but perhaps you entered the wrong payment ID or something?

Again, no clue why it was delayed for so long. As long as it's got the correct confirmations it shouldn't have at all.
2993  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin at $15,000 ATH now. Where do we go from here? POLL. on: December 11, 2017, 09:53:53 AM
The price is probably going to go higher with the hype, regardless of the market's reaction with the futures trading going on. The all time high is going to get pushed back to at the least, $25k with the 2018 rallies, whether that will be the highest i don't know. It could be way higher and the entire bubble extended by mass adoption of bitcoin as a currency and average joes becoming traders of BTC.

We're definitely going to see corrections just like yesterday's, many times within the run up.

It's not going to be just an exponential growth curve without pullbacks, much the opposite. Be prepared to hodl all the way and not be affected by what others say about btc.
2994  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price going down in second week of december on: December 11, 2017, 09:47:02 AM
what do you think it will increase or decrease in this year?

I think that the price will most likely just stay at the current levels without deviating much. Honestly it's quite hard to see that the price will increase much further than it already has to be honest, but i think the trend will be still upwards.

Yes, the price has decreased for the last few days but now it's going back to previous heights with the current rally.

Mind you, we may even be in the infancy of this rally. If you zoom out of the small picture, it could be possible that BTC will go even further up next year. But for this year i think we'll stay under $20k.
2995  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin now back on 14k after the big pump(upto 17k)!??? on: December 11, 2017, 09:37:09 AM
Is this something normal? Will BTC rise up again?

It's definitely normal following a huge correction as we've seen.

Right now people are buying because they feel like they missed out on a great buying opportunity back when bitcoin was experiencing its pullback back to $13k. Back on track with the bull market that is most likely going to continue for months to come.

You're probably not going to see current price levels for long. I'd say that even extremely short term wise, like just tomorrow or the day after, you're going to see 10-15% accumulative increase in BTC price. Though right now i wouldn't recommend buying with everything you got.
2996  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will it crash in the next few days? on: December 11, 2017, 09:30:39 AM
I was told to cash out, But I was saying no as I didn't think it would crash more then 60% and then 20 people told me to cash out so I did... NEVER AGAIN...

Trust your gut guys not some guys who got lucky one time and made lots of money on trading

Lol yeah, a lot of people were panicking and saying that this was the end of 2017's bitcoin rally but obviously they have been proven wrong again. Huge bear trap that was met today with a 20% rise and i would think that the all time high will be broken soon.

Don't make the mistake of joining the selling crowd when people are selling on an hourly basis. Nor the mistake of joining the buying crowd when everyone is saying great things about bitcoin, saying it's going to go to the moon etc.

Basically, BTC isn't crashing, anytime soon.
2997  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: should I insert my bitcoin wallet seed here? on: December 11, 2017, 09:24:37 AM

The website below claims to redeem your bitcoin diamon if you paste your 12 word seed. Not sure if this is legit or not.

It's definitely a scam and you should take away the link from the OP so that somebody does not click on it and accidentally use it and lose money as a result. All of these forks have led to these scams happening, since a lot of people don't know what to do to get their share from the forked coins.

This is why you always, always wait until the official people from their development team comes out with something, that way you know it is secure.

Never ever trust any "claiming" services with your private key, unless they are really trusted and you have cleared out your address of all BTC balances.
2998  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Cigspot, the cigarette service that never ships (missing evidence) on: December 11, 2017, 09:22:43 AM
Updating OP with the right format, of course I don't have much evidence anymore, I don't really give a shit for 3 boxes as you say, there's no conspiracy against me it probably got seized by the custom, but him sending emails out to my personal email and linkedin pisses me off



Allrigh I just looked into it, I won't be able to find any proof (I was sure I posted on his topic but can't find it anymore), so I guess I should remove the thread ?

Cheers,
Q.

I would suggest locking the thread until you find further proof. I mean it's definitely a possibility that your order got seized by the customs and later on when he realised that your country has some sort of strict enforcement on the customs he decided to just not refund your country at all. That is definitely a possibility.

Even though you have proof, i believe you. But it does take away from the fact that he's probably not going to be negged.

Him sending promotional emails without consent of users is definitely unethical and should not be condoned though.
2999  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: blockchain.info wallet BIG probleme! CAN NOT SEND ANY AMOUNT EVEN WITH 10$ FEE!! on: December 11, 2017, 08:57:09 AM
Hello everyone i have a probleme!
it started from yesterday , i wanted to send somone bitcoins . but i can't each time it gives me the same error message even when i change the fee "to a high balance" 10$ for exemple! her's a screenshot :
https://imgur.com/a/PDgUr

also just to add this because it may be the cause of the probleme!
approximatly a week ago i paid somone 2$ ! and i did it with a very very low fee (0.03$) ! and untill now its unconfirmed ! so i was thinking this is the reason mybe ?! knowing that this never happend to me before!
PLEASE SOMONE HELP ME WITH YOUR KNOWLEGE!  Cry Cry

I can't understand French so i don't know what exactly the problem is.

Are you sure that the fee amount + the amount to be sent is smaller than your actual balance in your address? If yes then it's probably the issue here. Also perhaps as you said, when you sent the transaction with low fees it produced a change input that is still current unconfirmed meaning that you can't spend it until it is confirmed. There is really a ton of possibilities and we can't know which one it is, until we actually know what's going on inside your wallet.

So please, get the english version and even try to interpret to us what's happening.
3000  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Have anyone tried this ? O_O on: December 11, 2017, 08:45:35 AM
Hello i wonder if anyone of you been using this site to mining:
https://goo.gl/YxhT89

Ive getting almost 3 time more money than on regular mining.

Do you think its legit or scam?

First thnig that you should notice is notice how they are pitching an idea that is obviously unsustainable and is too good to be true. "Autopilot money making on your computer". It's almost becoming a cliche right now the amount of times that phrase has been used.

And this combined with teh fact that they offer lucrative affiliate earnings(up to 2k affiliates, wtf), means that it's probably a scam.

Since i don't see any proof that they're actually mining, i'd say that it is most likely a pyramid/ponzi scheme based on my initial impressions.
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