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3301  Economy / Speculation / Re: Above $3000 before Aug1. on: July 31, 2017, 11:04:47 AM
Could be wrong, however I have a feeling we're going to be getting a head start on the runup past 3K ahead of August. Just based on the resistance to all the recent news/btc-e/mixer/etc and it's still testing the high 2 the closer we get.

Thoughts? And if it does go past 3 (say 3.25+), you think we'll be going straight to 4 in a semi-straight pump? (I kinda do)

Also right now on CMC it's one of the first times I've seen all the alts SO all over the board on the charts - aka NOT following the current BTC run.

$2800 could be a final push but honestly speaking it's not going to break the $3000 barrier. Trading on major exchanges is going to be disabled in like 10 hours from now as well, even if people want to buy it i don't think that exchanges are going to give them a chance to deposit and trade on their platform.

Could be wrong, however I have a feeling we're going to be getting a head start on the runup past 3K ahead of August. Just based on the resistance to all the recent news/btc-e/mixer/etc and it's still testing the high 2 the closer we get.

Thoughts? And if it does go past 3 (say 3.25+), you think we'll be going straight to 4 in a semi-straight pump? (I kinda do)

Also right now on CMC it's one of the first times I've seen all the alts SO all over the board on the charts - aka NOT following the current BTC run.

I don't think it will exceed $3k that soon but if it does, I wouldn't be surprised to see it take off again. ~$3k seems like a strong resistance point that we've seen it bounce back down from several times.

Exactly. $3000 technically is just an arbitrary number that we have set for ourselves. It is purely psychological, nothing else. But psychological factors matter in trading. Due to the fact that $3,000 seems so strong of a resistance, i simply cannot see us breaking it before, or even after the fork. In fact i don't think we'll break $3000 until the next halving in 4 years(or maybe three), but if we do it won't be long lived.
3302  Economy / Speculation / Re: Another Fun Poll for BTC vs BCC on: July 31, 2017, 10:58:57 AM
I'm just making this poll out of curiosity, as I myself am honestly confused on what to do.  I see BCC as free money so I think there's nothing to be done about it really except keep it for a rainy day?

I would like to hear your thoughts on what you plan to dump and why.

Of course I'm expecting most of you to dump BCC, but are there any reasons behind it, be it technical or philosophical?

Voted for BCC and not surprisingly the majority have voted for it too.

Reasoning behind this is simple - bitcoin cash isn't going to get much acceptance from anybody. Exchanges are rejecting the whole idea of bitcoin cash, people are saying that they are just stealing bitcoin's brand to try to take over bitcoin, it just doesn't seem like a long lived, healthy project.

But yeah, it's free money.

If you don't claim it and dump it early then you're going to lose out on these bitcoins. So be ready to dump it on the first instance possible.
3303  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC price directly before the fork on: July 31, 2017, 10:45:22 AM
Two alternate theories:

- BTC price will go up directly before the fork because everyone wants some free BCC.
- BTC price will go down directly before the fork because forks are kind of scary.

Which one do you think?  Huh


I think that in a few hours time we might see some sort of mini-dump going on just before trading platforms start disabling trading activity from happening as well as deposits and withdrawals that sort of stuff. That might drive the price down to less than $2600, but that's just my guess and it could be well off.

I don't think that btc price is going to go up from here. No reason for anyone to buy in right now when it is right before fork and the price is so high.

I honestly think it's going to be a bit of a non event, I don't expect the price to be majorly aftected either way. The halvening didn't do much until months after & I expect this to be the same.

Well even with the BIP91 rendering it a non-event there is still the UAHF(bitcoin cash) meaning that it is an event... And i'm not sure why you're bringing up halving when the next halving is in 3 years, lmao.
3304  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Anywhere to trade on 1st August? on: July 31, 2017, 10:42:46 AM
As we all know most exchanges will be closing all their trading activity in preparation of the 1st August event.

Is there any site on which you can still trade with existing balance(note existing balance, of course i don't expect to be able to deposit on that day) for altcoins as well as fiat $$$? If there are any, please let me know because i would like to trade on the day when it happens.

And also anyone else being bombarded with emails saying what will happen to user funds on 1st August from bitcoin accepting merchants? Grin

Thank you all!

If they are storing the funds in their desktop or hardware wallet then the merchants dont need to fear about 1st August as they will get the BCC Coins freely from after doing small procedure will be given after that day. About trading then i think most of the exchanges will be trading it for their users who are holding bitcoin in their exchange. Only deposit and withdraw will be in halt till the procedure is not finished.

Um... Actually bother to read the OP before you comment please?

As per my understanding what you said is false. Basically every single exchange and wallet service is both disabling deposit and withdraw functions AND trading between listed pairs on their exchange. I'm not sure why the second one is true, but it's just how it is.

e.g. coinbase: https://support.coinbase.com/customer/portal/articles/2844217-uahf-uasf-faq

To simplify my question - do i really need to wait for 2-3 days to trade my coin, after every exchange recovers or can i trade during 1st August on some particular exchange? If yes, which one is it?
3305  Economy / Trading Discussion / Anywhere to trade on 1st August? on: July 31, 2017, 10:19:53 AM
As we all know most exchanges will be closing all their trading activity in preparation of the 1st August event.

Is there any site on which you can still trade with existing balance(note existing balance, of course i don't expect to be able to deposit on that day) for altcoins as well as fiat $$$? If there are any, please let me know because i would like to trade on the day when it happens.

And also anyone else being bombarded with emails saying what will happen to user funds on 1st August from bitcoin accepting merchants? Grin

Thank you all!
3306  Economy / Securities / Re: [Crypto-Games.net] Investment Returns, Updated weekly, Week 29, +26.07% in BTC on: July 30, 2017, 09:23:54 AM
Hey OP, thanks for the awesome graphs & stats.

All I can say is damn! 100 ETH is like $20,000 right now isn't it Tongue And plus the 15 ETH investment profit, pretty neat.

I guess that's the beauty of investing in crypto casinos - you get to make a (thereotically) mathematical gain in the long run on your cryptocurrency PLUS any profit from the coin itself because gamblers aren't using fiat. So if cryptos go up and you get profit, then that's just more profit to you.

But obviously cryptos can be risky so, is crypto-games ever going to consider adding like USDT to their portfolio of altcoins available to be invested? Especially in a bearish market this option could prove to gain popularity and attract lots of gamblers & investors. Just a suggestion to CG management.

 keep up the good work OP!
3307  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Would a Peer2peer escrow site work? on: July 30, 2017, 09:15:34 AM
Thinking of making one, would it work?

No. To have any sort of escrow you need to have trust.

If you create a site solely for escrows to offer their service and match up buyers with each other then you can probably imagine the chaos that scammers will create. How will you make sure that these escrowers are legit but not duds? Plus how will you make sure that they pay you a cut after each transaction?

Unless YOU want to be the escrow. In that case, why would anyone trust you? What's so good about your service that makes nobody want to trust a more seasoned operation like LBC or paxful?

Not a good idea at all, you'll get criticized all round, nobody will trust you, and you'll spend a ton of money you won't be able to make back on devs, graphics, customer support, server costs etc.
3308  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Fork Lead to Massive Short Squeeze? on: July 30, 2017, 08:52:59 AM
Um, no.

Kraken is demanding you to pay back the bitcoin core + bitcoin cash value on your positions after the fork, correct? But thinking logically, if you short a coin right now you would be getting the same thing, bitcoin core + bitcoin cash. Therefore, there should be no short squeeze if bitcoin price just stayed stable. There is no guaranteed scenario of a short squeeze happening, otherwise nobody would be buying into these positions in the first place.

However if the price gets pumped up drastically after the fork then yes, a short squeeze could well be possible. Personally i know a lot of traders are shorting right now before the fork, on margin. But this has nothing to do with what you said in the OP, and is by no means guaranteed to happen.
3309  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC and BCC vs. ETH and ETC on: July 30, 2017, 08:49:39 AM
Well, no matter whether BCC appreciates or not i think that anyone should grab this opportunity to get some free money. Really doesn't make sense if you have an opportunity to get some free cash even if you don't support it(you can always sell it off for the token you support). So therefore storing any amount on coinbase before the fork would be just plain stupidity in my opinion.

There is a big difference between ETC and BCC though, ETC is actually as a result of the Ethereum chain being manipulated simply because a hacker got hold of some Ethereum. BCC brings nothing morally right to the table, at least imo.

Either way, do whatever you want but please, please, do not store anything on an exchange even if they promise to pay you out. Promises are promises. Private key is the real deal.
3310  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin cannot replace currency in the world because price is not stable on: July 25, 2017, 10:01:41 AM
bitcoin cannot replace currency in the world because price is not stable.

currency should be more stable.

you may reply me. currency is not stable also but you should think  

USD currency price is up and down 1-2% in 1 month.

bitcoin price is up and down 20% in 1 month.

what will people think if they just change USD to bitcoin then their money down 10% in 10 minutes?

bitcoin can become stock but cannot become currency

I guess that it is completely true that bitcoin is a volatile currency. However you have to understand that a part of it is because it has a extremely small market capitalization. People think that billions of dollars is a lot but if the whole world was to use it that would end up being less than $10 per person on bitcoin.

Bitcoin currently cannot replace fiat currencies because it does not have a large enough supporter base. Once enough merchants and users start accepting bitcoin then bitcoin will stabilize itself and take over the economy as the dominant world currency.

It's not as simple as just pegging bitcoin to USD, not only is that impsosible to do but it is also very very dumb as bitcoin is a free market currency in the first place with no central authority.
3311  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Cash: A fork is coming after all on: July 25, 2017, 09:56:47 AM
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Unlike the previous situation in Bitcoin, there is no one single development team for Bitcoin Cash.  There are now multiple independent teams of developers.

I find this quite hypocritical. Obviously even if there was to be multiple teams of devs working on the project they all have the same end goal anyways. Plus it is much more likely that they are just one big group of devs working together. Also, why not list all these groups?

This isn't even a hard fork imo, it's just an altcoin. Treat this like any other altcoin airdrop(stellar byteball etc.) people because that's exactly what it is. As soon as people get it they're going to get it.

Idk what bitmain is trying to achieve. They said on their site that actually segwit2x would be preferable but now they're doing this... If they think that this is going to gain traction at all, they are dead wrong.
3312  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The main and obvious reason Craig Wright is not satoshi on: July 10, 2017, 12:03:01 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1_gxvx_QGo&t=56m48s

Some guy inteligently asked that in the scenario of a hardfork, would he (Craig Wright) dump his million bitcoins into the competing blockchains to crash them? (which is the most obvious move if you want to defeat the competition)

He went mad when he got asked. This for me is a clear sign of the fact that he does not control these coins.

When asked about the fake proof, he also didn't give any convincing explanation.

I now want to actually see what would happen if there is a hardfork. Surely Craig would move his coins if he is satoshi right?

It's funny because if you looked through the whole video you'll see him always pausing and thinking about what he's going to say next, word after word. That is the most obvious proof that he is uncomfortable there, because he knows that he is not satoshi.

Got mad after asking a completely good natured question of would he dump his coins for BU. that again as you said proves that he is obviously begging to get off stage and go home and this questioning is driving him crazy.

And the proof he used to prove himself to be satoshi was completely fake and already public: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/technical-proof-craig-wright-not-satoshi-nakamoto/
3313  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer - mixing reinvented on: July 09, 2017, 10:56:33 PM
Great reply from MZ, you should really be a part of the Chipmixer support team Tongue

I think sometimes we all overlook the fact that the chips are to guarantee that the funds you receive are by no means connected by the funds you send. It's impossible because the chips have been funded before your deposit. That is the main goal of having chips instead of sending coins directly to the recipient's address, in my opinion. It adds a whole new level of privacy. It's not because Chipmixer has access to private keys or whatever.

It all comes down to whether you trust Chipmixer or not, if you don't trust Chipmixer then don't use it.
3314  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the Biggest problem you have with trading / exchanging? on: July 07, 2017, 09:05:24 AM
I'm curious if other people are having similar challenges. But,
what is your BIGGEST problem with trading crypto coins and exchanging overall?

Your feedback would be appreciated.

I have two major problems currently with trading:

1. Lack of local traders, existing ones have spreads of upwards to 10%
2. Verification process is way too extensive and unnecessary at most licensed exchanges

In a sense, these two problems are all the same problem that can be solved by more people actively trading bitcoin p2p, and reducing the spread. Then, people have an alternative to using a centralized exchange. We have seen this in China when the KYC laws became real strict, people switched to p2p almost immediately and localbitcoins volume in china is booming like crazy.
3315  Economy / Economics / Re: Wall Street's Migration To Crypto Continues: Former Bain Manager Opens LatAm Bit on: July 07, 2017, 08:28:07 AM
Instead of focusing on altcoins and funding new projects, perhaps they should look at the existing alternatives? Hint: Bitcoin anyone? I mean yeah they have listed bitcoin in there but it seems like they're more interested in the prospect of being able to invest in copycat shitcoins.

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    First, it was designed to give investors in some of Latin America’s more unstable economies a new way to hedge their investments, and...
    Second, it was meant to provide the opportunity to safely learn about these new stores of value for possible future investments.

If they really care so much about the people in Latin America why don't they promote cryptos there and let them own their own coin instead of having to trust wall street investors to hold it for them? The whole point of crypto is to have a trustless way of holding your wealth without banks/other external entities Tongue

I can't complain that much though. Any move to cryptocurrencies is a good one, and wall street means serious business.
3316  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mark Cuban on: July 07, 2017, 08:23:56 AM
What a fuckwad. He's "calling" for a big bitcoin correction - based on what, his few months looking at crypto and his mad skilz at crypto speculation?
Guess what dumbass, the fact douchebag billionaires like you are finally talking about bitcoin is why it isn't dumping anytime soon.

It's possible but i don't think that he is looking at it rationally.

As others have stated, he seems to be interested in ICOs and think that altcoins will overtake bitcoin in the long run. In my opinion this can't be farther from the truth, as altcoins are for-profit companies that need to provide good results for their angel investors and their founders.

I'm going to use a slightly older pic but here:



And that's when bitcoin dominance was still above 50%! Now it's only 40% ish. It's either that bitcoin is going to go up, altcoins stabilize/go down or bitcoin and altcoins both go down but altcoins go down especially fast. Either way, Mark is wrong in his prediction.
3317  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin prices may hit $1 billion - Fox Business Speculates on: July 07, 2017, 08:17:52 AM
Yes, you are reading it right, it is not million.
Very interesting, while reading it I just recalled what some folk said when PayPal directors speculated for $1 million.

Like me, you also will love to read this twice : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/fox-business-speculates-bitcoin-price-reach-1-billion



It's completely doable provided that we have a few decades to achieve this.

It's not that bitcoin is in a bubble, though. I would suspect that if bitcoin does reach a billion dollars each, then the whole world economy will be in a complete mess. 1 billion dollars would probably be somewhere in between $5000-10000 in today's dollars, so after being inflation adjusted.

Long term wise i think that everyone agrees bitcoin is going to be a success and definitely be a store of value, if not a source of profit as more people adopt bitcoin. It's the short term that a lot of people worry about, bubbles and all that.
3318  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why is bitcoin the most popular cryptocurrency? on: July 07, 2017, 08:13:57 AM
I believe that they're popular mainly because well it was the first of all cryptocurrencies to be made. Honestly most of the other coins are scams and greedy ways that the developers make money. The only other coin I can think of that isn't a scam are dogecoins! What do you think?

It's funny because i saw this on the forum ad when looking at this thread:

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The block chain is the main innovation of Bitcoin. It is the first distributed timestamping system.

Well, there you go. Bitcoin was the first cryptocurrency to use a blockchain to keep a decentralized ledger. Note, key word here is FIRST. It doesn't matter how good the technology behind altcoins are, bitcoin is the FIRST. I'm by no means against altcoins, they are useful but in the end they are alternatives.

People place their trust in bitcoin. And it's just not a few people, it's not a few hundred people like some altcoins, but a few hundred thousand/few million people. The more a currency is trusted, the more people will trust in it. And after all, we really don't need smart contracts and all that. All we need is a simple, decentralized payment processor which bitcoin offers already.
3319  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QRL - Announcing the Quantum Resistant Ledger on: July 07, 2017, 08:03:52 AM
Price has been crazily low right now, an all time low if i'm not mistaken.

$0.56 is just a steal in my opinion. Quantum computing is not just some fantasy in sci-fi. It is right now. It's just that currently it is expensive to get one, but in the future we can probably see quantum computing in your everyday tasks, and a ledger like this will prove to be extremely useful.

Well, I guess if nobody else is buying i'll buy it all up Tongue I remember this was in the top 30 in coinmarketcap, now it's 80 something.

Thanks for the price.
I appreciate it very lol Smiley

It's going lower. Free money for the p&d whales that were cut in on the backroom distribution deal. Will test ICO price.

Lol there was NO backroom deal. Get outta here

One guy on twitter has 2000BTC worth and he is a part of a group that bought the entire premine for less than $4mm. How else would you describe it?  Do you think the founders cared about distribution or just racking up $$$, the fact they sold to such small group of private investors is why this coin has no future, possibly the worse distribution model of any coin.

One guy on twitter lol? You lost me already. You must be talking about another coin

They only raised total $4M so no


I saw a 2250 BTC sell wall a few weeks ago, so there is a group/someone that holds minimum 4.3m+ QRL. I'm not saying there was a backroom deal but a huge amount of QRL are held by a few.

I missed the ICO but was still a good investment pre-Bittrex pump.

How much is the ICO price?

I asked that a few pages back and I believe it was around $0.08, someone correct me if I am wrong.

I think most people missed this, unfortunately... And early investors seem to not be willing to dump the majority of their coin even for 7x the ICO price, a good sign.
3320  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Another Good Reason to Own Some BTC on: July 07, 2017, 07:58:40 AM
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If you are traveling and lose your credit card, but in a country that has a reasonably active Bitcoin scene, you can sell some BTC to pay bills while "over there".

This may become an issue for us.  

Here is a case for having an online wallet, "travels anywhere".

True. Or to be honest you can probably travel just on bitcoin right now. Credit cards charge way too much for fees overseas and the conversion fees are extremely high compared to interbank rates as well. When using bitcoin you might actually get some discounts due to the fact that many countries have strict capital control especially in Asia(Korea, China, etc. you get the picture).

Wouldn't that be quite fun? I mean, it just ultimately shows how useful bitcoin is especially when you're overseas, because bitcoin is an international currency, much like preciosu metals. It's not owned by any state.
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