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2741  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | IPO | Escrow | 100% POS | New Source | Beta Available on: April 17, 2014, 07:35:24 AM
I still don't believe that it is scam.
IPO's money are still in IPO wallet.



Visacoin kept IPO money in the wallet for several month.

Anyhow, I see no reason not to launch it. There is a working beta. People received and sent coins. Why wouldn't he create a genesis and send coins to people. Isn't it that hard.

If the code for the so called beta is a failure , and people will receive coins of a not properly working code... this would be just as they wouldn't have any.
Most probably it's an unfinished coin and a scam.
2742  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | IPO | Escrow | 100% POS | New Source | Beta Available on: April 17, 2014, 07:33:13 AM

Escrow for many IPOs make people think it's legit. Whether they are stupid to is neither here nor there, people DID pay straight to the guy....a lot.

I have suggested also earlier why people tend to avoid Anon1 Escrow due to not knowing how to use private keys.


I think the whole thing about this IPO is people once they saw or 'thought' they saw a working beta with a completely new code and offering Escrow they thought it was a cast iron legit opportunity.

But yes they should of Escrowed but the fact is 80btc did get sent direct. I expect many have learned a lesson from this. Bit I do hope the Escrow thing gets explained a bit more in laymans terms so not to deter any noobs from using it. Bear in mind Escrow was only available near the end of the IPO.

People sending directly are asking to be robbed.
I really don't get it , after the visacoin madness in january and the wave of ipos why aren't people learning?

Or is this board attracting idiots ?
2743  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 17, 2014, 07:25:27 AM
So , let me ask you something...

1) Can Putin raise the wages out of the blue?
2 ) Has this happen in the Abkhazia or South Ossetia you mentioned before?

1. Yes. Putin can raise the wages. Not out of the blue, but gradually. Russian industries get heavily subsidized gas. If the industries in Lugansk and Donetsk can get the same, then the wages can be raised by many times. Also remember that the taxes are much lower.

Pensions will be brought to the Russian levels (Around 6 times higher).

2) Yes. Check the salaries and pensions in Abkhazia. They are very close to the Russian average.

And at what price?

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Candidates also openly accused officials of corruption and warned of fraud during the election.

"Our bureaucrats drive expensive cars and build palaces for themselves — they are stealing what belongs to you," Khadzhimba said this week at a rally in Verkhnyaya Eshera, a village west of Sukhumi.

Shamba and Ankvab, who both hold senior government posts, admit that corruption is a problem and have promised to replace wrongdoers.

Khadzhimba and Shamba have also broached irregularities in the preparation by saying voter lists contain hundreds of dubious names, many clearly belonging to people who "died long ago."

The Black Sea region has seen a modest economic upswing since 2008, when Moscow recognized Abkhazia as independent following a short war with Georgia over its other separatist province, South Ossetia.

The Kremlin has since stationed thousands of troops and spent large amounts of money in both regions. In Abkhazia, the funds cover half of all government spending.

ps , no it's not from nbc or bbc or abc Smiley.
2744  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 17, 2014, 07:23:27 AM
So , let me ask you something... can Putin raise the wages out of the blue?

Check salaries in Russia in last 10 Years in confront with Ukrainian salaries.

Check those in Abkhazia or South Ossetia , as the situation is close to what happened there.
Also the money spent on those regions.
2745  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 17, 2014, 07:21:31 AM

Only English ! Remember this one?

Footage in Youtube is in original language usually.

Это БТР из Краматорска.

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МОСКВА, 16 апр — РИА Новости. Украинские СМИ признали в мужчине в камуфляже, представившемся подполковником российской армии после захвата сторонниками федерализации городского отдела милиции в Горловке (Донецкая область), местного жителя Игоря Безлера.

 Как сообщает агентство УНИАН со ссылкой на донецкий портал "ОстроВ", ранее лжеподполковник российской армии Игорь Безлер "возглавлял в Горловке коммунальное предприятие ритуальных услуг "Простор", из которого был уволен в 2012 году за хищение 38 оград и памятников, а также за вымогательство денег у пожилых людей за место на кладбище".

 Между тем интернет-портал "УРА-Информ" сообщает, что Безлер действительно является подполковником в отставке, но только не российского, а украинского спецназа. По данным издания, после работы в ритуальном предприятии "Простор" Безлер работал начальником службы безопасности кандидата в народные депутаты Украины Артура Герасимова, который баллотировался по мажоритораному округу в Горловке, однако тот так и не прошел в Верховную раду Украины.

В Славянск въехали 6 бронемашин с российскими флагами. Об этом сообщает агентство Reuters со ссылкой на местных очевидцев.

На бронетранспортерах сидят примерно 15 вооруженных мужчин, одетых в камуфляжную форму без знаков отличия.

Пока нет данных, откуда появились эти бронемашины – прибыли они из Краматорска или входили в части, блокировавшие северные въезды в Славянск со вчерашнего вечера. Телеканал Russia Today утверждает, что экипажи украинских БТРов перешли на сторону ополченцев.

Ранее несколько бронемашин с днепропетровскими десантниками были заблокированы мирными жителями в Краматорске. Боевые машины направлялись к захваченной "народной самообороной" городской администрации, однако были вынуждены остановиться возле городского рынка.

Позже в YouTube появились видео, выложенные очевидцами, с бронетранспортерами с российскими флагами, двигавшимися по Краматорску.

Бронемашины появились в Донецкой области в рамках спецоперации, которую проводят киевские власти против "народной самообороны".

Читать полностью: http://top.rbc.ru/incidents/16/04/2014/918331.shtml


Ukrainians with Russian Flag?

And those?

Just on the last pages , not talking about all your post in all the threads covering Ukraine.
2746  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SIM] Simcoin - A Simple Coin on: April 17, 2014, 07:19:04 AM
There is already a currency called "simcoin"
http://www.simcoin.org/

Therefore, the proposed change of name


I hate it when there are 2 coins with the same name.

Remember Pandacoin? All three of them?
I bet that there will be somebody with a lot of free time that will rush to launch another simplecoin just for fun.
2747  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 17, 2014, 07:16:00 AM
you keep me from saying "go to hell"


This topic is about Donetsk, Kharkov and Lugansk.


Let's play by the rules of this forum.
Only English ! Remember this one?
2748  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 17, 2014, 07:14:36 AM
Now really , this Russian propaganda about wages and pension is just disgusting.

lol..... Either ask the EU to raise the salaries and pensions in Ukraine. Else let Russia do the same. You can't have it either way. Either you pay for the expenses, or you back out.

So , let me ask you something... can Putin raise the wages out of the blue?
Has this happen in the Abkhazia or South Ossetia you mentioned before?

No. It won't. Nobody can do this in a free economy. Not the EU not the Us not China not Russia.
2749  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 17, 2014, 07:12:10 AM
When you first started to post , you were only skeptical  but you gave reasons.
A few weeks passed and you turned into a real "bear" seeing only destruction ahead.
Everything changed and at moments you even seem angry at every good news or development as if it was hurting you.
I did change my signature from "rather skeptical" to "very skeptical" and stated some of the reasons here, buried somewhere in the past 2000 pages or so.   I won't go through them again, it would only trigger the same nasty responses.

I don't like zealots nor the ones believing in the bitpocalypse.
If you care to know, for me the probability of bitcoin (THIS bitcoin) succeeding is positive but rather small; if it fails, I have no idea how long that ill take, and how the price will evolve until then.

The question is... what does "succeeding" mean?
And there everybody is having different opinions. For a few it's already a success.
2750  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 17, 2014, 07:10:01 AM
this Russian propaganda about
... show me "Russian Federation Terrorist Troops" in Donbass, i see nothing on zello, youtube and ustream...

I was talking about pensions and wages...
Go with your terrorists in donbass or in china or whatever you want as long as you keep me from saying "go to hell"

I'm talking about one thing and you pop in and quote me and you talk about your s***.
Don't do this again!

2751  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] (WC) | WhiteCoin | Distribution Stage Begins TODAY! ☯ PoS ☯ exchanges ☯ on: April 17, 2014, 07:07:45 AM
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Rented - Waiting payment...

 Undecided

https://www.betarigs.com/rig/1242

Here's another one available in less than 6 minutes

Thanks. the previois one never actually turned green to allow buy (Was refreshing every 300ms from the 'few moments' prompt)
how does their system work exactly? must be the previous buyer gets a choice to re-rent right?


Nope. The previous buyer can't re-rent. You just have to be really fast!

Maybe I need to use the Fibre optic cable to betarig host location, shave few ms of like these High frequency guys  Grin

One way to do it (hackish way) is to record the HTTP request when you rent any random rig. Then resend the HTTP POST request with the different parameters (rent time, rig ID) on desire rig when rent is over

Nobody does this though. I'm probably the only one to do it when I really  need a rig

If that really works , thanks. I will keep this trick in mind.
But I have the feeling there will be quite a fw testing it in the next hours.
2752  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 17, 2014, 07:00:14 AM
I bet on the 9th of May 2015 , their situation will be the same ( living standard i mean).

If they join Russia, then their living standards would definitely change for the better. Pensions and salaries will increase by many times, and they will qualify for generous welfare benefits such as the maternity capital.

And those money will come from?
Why would salaries increase just because they are not under Ukraine rule?

Will their productivity increase out of the blue? =)))))

Now really , this Russian propaganda about wages and pension is just disgusting.
2753  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 17, 2014, 06:57:13 AM
No need for the  FUD quotes.  We all know that you have turned from a so called analyst into a desperate cavebear facing  extinction.
I never was an "analyst", so-called or otherwise-called.  As for being a cave bear, my prediction for after Apr/15 (posted here on Mar/29) was  "3500--3700 CNY or  580--610 USD". 

But I already got it, anyone who does not believe in 1,000,000,000 USD/BTC by next week is a bear... Embarrassed

When you first started to post , you were only skeptical  but you gave reasons.
A few weeks passed and you turned into a real "bear" seeing only destruction ahead.

Everything changed and at moments you even seem angry at every good news or development as if it was hurting you.

Besides , I don't believe in the 1,000,000,000 USD/BTC not even in the 300k someone on this forum claimed before he was... but that is another story.
I don't like zealots nor the ones believing in the bitpocalypse.

2754  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Greececoin (GRCE) - The first AIR DROP starts 1st MAY, 6:00pm GMT! on: April 17, 2014, 06:52:48 AM
Let's just admit, Greececoin did not take off as planned. Even even you distribute all your premine to the Greek people, the coins will be worth close to nothing. Country coins are dead.

Greececoin is arriving soon to provide a new innovative crypto currency for citizens and businesses of Greece. This new currency will bring confidence and belief back to the people of Greece so that they can continue to prosper in our so ever changing world. In the year of 2008 when the global recession occurred, Greece was one of the worst hit countries and it was believed to have been caused  by a combination of structural weaknesses of the Greek economy along with a decade long pre-existence of overly high structural deficits and debt-to-GDP levels on public accounts.

ARRIVING SOON! I CAN'T WAIT!  Grin



it's a damn litecoin clone Smiley

Like every scrypt coin....

Yes , but not all the coins claim to be a "new innovative crypto currency" like this one does.
So , this is called fake advertising and this was the reason i posted.

Its new innovative crypto currency for citizens and businesses of Greece, not in general as crypto currency..You take a part of a sentence and you twisted it as you want, so keep up the good work!

No it is not. People in Greece already us BTC and have used BTC for a few years.
There is nothing innovative about greececoin over bitcoin , so , no , this is fake advertising no matter what you try.
2755  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] (WC) | WhiteCoin | Distribution Stage Begins TODAY! ☯ PoS ☯ exchanges ☯ on: April 17, 2014, 06:50:55 AM
Look at beta rigs available prices is not THAT profitable to rent at those current prices. And with some rigs it will cost you more to mine than to buy at a exchange.

Just grab the next 50mh/s at 0.0079BTC in less than 15 minutes and you'll make 200% profit easy. 1BTC profit in less than a day or even more if rate climbs!

https://www.betarigs.com/rig/3062

Edit: at least 100mh/s+ available in the next 2 hours under 0.008BTC

And why don't you rent them all and make hundreds at those prices?
2756  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★█ Zeitcoin Movement █★ [ZEIT] POW/POS ★MULTIPOOL★ Join Our Thriving Community! on: April 17, 2014, 06:47:56 AM
no such thing as ddos protection. massive bandwidth can shut down anything less than massive bandwidth.

Oh really?
There are lots of ddos protections both software and hardware and a few of them do wonders even against gbps attacks
2757  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★█ Zeitcoin Movement █★ [ZEIT] POW/POS ★MULTIPOOL★ Join Our Thriving Community! on: April 17, 2014, 06:44:39 AM
Hey guys,

wanna let you know that we are under massive attack since yesterday evening. (UTC)
zeit-coin.com and all sub domains are not available.

Stay tuned!

So long,
Ray



But....why??

You're asking why the attack , or why are they pulling their domains and not getting better protection instead?

no such thing as ddos protection. massive bandwidth can shut down anything less than massive bandwidth.

exactory! im asking why they attacking zeit? I dont see any gain from it, unless its some fools who sold at 1sat and are now pissed  Grin Cheesy

Most people that use ddos attacks are kids , and kids don't actually have a reason for doing most of the stuff they do.
2758  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 17, 2014, 06:41:33 AM
That is some great drawing but I have no idea what is going on. Your english is very doge.

I don't really understand what that is supposed to mean..
Besides , nest time she should just share a link , instead of inserting that image. I had to scroll down a minute because of it.

I mean the english is like a Dogecoin meme.

Here, i'll translate your reply to doge...:

Understanding very low, link much share, many scroll, such image! Wow!

No i wasn't talking about what you said as.. damn I used doge and yoda language too many times myself but about what he was actually saying in that image/cartoon.
I didn't quoted his post for obvious reasons.

ps.
Understand what that is supposed to mean I really not..  Yes, hmmm.
2759  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 17, 2014, 06:38:13 AM
[FUD]
That Huobi note is a small positive development, but could be an attempt to push up morale and provide an emergency workaround before bad news that may come tomorrow Apr/18.  Like a sailor knocking at every passenger's cabin door and handing over a life jacket and a bottle of shark repellant "with compliments of the Capitan, just to improve your safety even more".  Grin
[/FUD]

No need for the  FUD quotes.
We all know that you have turned from a so called analyst into a desperate cavebear facing  extinction.
2760  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]BTCtalkcoin [BCC] Legal Airdrop - 4 Exchanges - IPO 1 closes in 30 mins on: April 17, 2014, 06:33:56 AM
Sounds interesting,but how to get a coin for free?

1) All members here will be asked to PM us their BCC addresses after launch.
2) We will collect all addresses for 20 days and put them in an online excel sheet which will be updated daily.
3) We will airdrop the coins over a period of another 20 days to avoid dumping.


Dumping on what? If you distribute the coins the first day , there will be no exchanges for the people to dump their coins.

We will start distributing coins after 20 days (Address collection period as in #2). Secondly, as you see in the OP, we will have 4 exchanges on launch.

Would really like to see an announce from poloniex to back up your claims Wink
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