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2701  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 17, 2014, 12:24:55 PM
If the dust ever settled in Bitcoin, we'd just be buying and holding and we wouldn't be here trading. The dust is never settled.

Can we let the dust settle in china for ... let's say forever and have our usual dust . just like it was before October 2013?
Because there is something wrong with their dust , maybe due to pollution that makes a few people really sick of this game.
2702  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BET] BETACOIN - SHA256 COIN | POW | 32mln + 0,39% annual | NO PREMINE on: April 17, 2014, 12:22:36 PM
Hello, Betacoin Community,

Soon some major Betacoin news will come out background.

In near days we will release new Betacoin version with TX-comments in GUI and lots of fixes and updates.

Also we got Betacoin presented on new exchange https://www.allcrypt.com/market?id=540

More news will be available soon.

Stay in touch. Thank you for your support.

P.S. Betacoin.info is under implementing new features and server update. Soon will be available too.

If you update your thread here form month to month , people will start believing this coin is already dead , just like I dead two weeks ago.
And if this continue , the coin will really die.
2703  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NEW][PesetaCoin - PTC] Wallet With FIAT & Payment GateWay now Online on: April 17, 2014, 12:17:01 PM
It is just me or this forum is becoming a little too silent.
The coin is doing better than the spaincoin when it comes to projects , it has a greater community... while this dark silent?
2704  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ukraine rejects Russia Gazprom gas price hike on: April 17, 2014, 12:14:05 PM
Isn't TAP highly depended on the Iraq and Middle east output and the situation there also?

There is only one confirmed donor to the TAP. That is Azerbaijan.

If they can get another country, either Turkmenistan or Iraq, then the pipeline will become viable. But the situation in Northern Iraq is a bit volatile at this point of time and there are no plans for a pipeline yet.



Thanks for the info.
But seriously we need a few English maps here. I laughed so hard reading the words Macaristan and others again Smiley.
2705  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia Invades Ukraine. Whats next? on: April 17, 2014, 12:11:25 PM
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Whats next?
New-Leningrad Cheesy



It would be nice to know how many Russian would want this guy to revive and become gain the ruler.
Anyone has some polls about this?
2706  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: April 17, 2014, 12:09:16 PM
3.5 million is x2 of my country population Smiley

Our news are filled with ww3 fear monger.

People is actually concerned we will be next. It's ridiculously funny.

You're from the Baltic states?
I can understand a bit of the fear but it's also maybe that news channel  want to get a higher rating also ..
2707  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] (WC) | WhiteCoin | Distribution Stage Begins TODAY! ☯ PoS ☯ exchanges ☯ on: April 17, 2014, 12:06:33 PM
poloniex market frozen, what's happening ?

Something wrong with the wallet
IRC says it's the block explorer, not the wallet.

on poloniex they are say it's a wallet sync issue and they are looking at it

no they aint.. what?? lol

They stated its a blockexplorer issue... NOT a fork and NOT a wallet issue...

Looks like different people are hearing different things LOL

BrooklynGuy: roian1990, It looked like there might be a fork; we had to take measures. Turns out nothing was wrong. Now we have to test some things.

well thats funny... Wink scroll up dude... you see more of that Wink

What is real funny is that the thread has turned into a mess where nobody is knowing what the hell they are talking about.
2708  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 17, 2014, 12:04:17 PM
Well I'm glad the funeral was postponed for this dead coin.  Cheesy

Hopefully slow and steady rise this time.

Sincerely I haven't seen yet a dead pos coin. A truly dead coin with no one suing it .
And bc won't be the first.
2709  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 17, 2014, 12:02:03 PM
As I understand it, BC has 10 second confirmations and you wait for 10 confirmations to be sure it can't be reversed. This is correct? So a payment at a retailer will be confirmed without risk to the retailer in 1min 40 seconds?

Receiver will have to decide how many confirmations he needs before the payment is considered accepted. If you buy a cup of coffee, it is possible you wouldn't require confirmations at all. When buying something more expensive you could require 20 confirmations. Or if the buyer looks like he can run fast, and there is little distance between the register and the street door. Tongue There is no magical number of confirmations after which the risk disappears totally, but it is reduced after each one. At least that's how I've understood it.

EDIT: haha this thread runs so fast that as soon as I've finished writing my reply there are already 5 answers. Cheesy

So where does the 10 second transaction confirmation fit in?

Surely, the headline for one confirmation should be 30 second average transaction confirmation,  for low cost items. It could be 1 second but it could be 60 seconds.

Well, whatever the time is, it's still the fastest out of all coins, right? And this will all be dealt with later. That's a way later stage.

That is not that easy unfortunately. Tweaking the coin afterwards if a messy job.
2710  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | IPO | Escrow | 100% POS | New Source | Beta Available on: April 17, 2014, 11:59:46 AM
The IPO has ended 24 hours, and the DEV has not shown yet. It's absolutely abnormal.
His last activity is April 16, 2014, 08:11:05 PM.
He did not leave any message. I send a pm to him before the end of ipo, but got nothing.

It's certainly odd that dev hasn't made a recent post considering the IPO has recently ended. I would expect a post stating the IPO is now over, and summarising the IPO (BTC invested direct and escrow, plus anticipated qora per BTC). Plus updating the first post so nobody tries to invest.

But nobody should have expected it to launch right after IPO. Dev stated clearly that this wouldn't be for at least two weeks:

The release will not be for atleast 2 weeks but should be within a month.
There is still lots that needs to be done to make it a little bit user-friendly.

When is the claiming shares phase expected to start?

On the release which should be within a month.


That looks just like time to pack things up and disappear.

how many BTCs were invested rather scammed?

1 satoshi was too much if you ask me.
But the last numbers was ... 84BTC ?


2711  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Real Time Socialist Train Wreck (again) Happening Now in Venezuela on: April 17, 2014, 11:52:08 AM
So , they are just sent on a work camp in another country.
I wonder if they have the rights to leave the city they are deployed to Smiley

No. They don't have any such relocation rights. They are mostly deployed in the poorer neighborhoods. They can't relocate themselves to the posh localities and earn more money.

I'm pretty sure that none of them is thinking about relocating , but more about fleeing the country and get into the US or Canada.
2712  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Kim Jong Un Had His Uncle Eaten Alive By 120 Revenous Dogs on: April 17, 2014, 11:50:39 AM
Why the hell do they need aid organizations there? Wasn't that country heaven on earth where everybody is happy?

North Korea is a very poor country with a massive military spending. Kim don't need any aid organizations, but the people need them. And I never said that North Korea is a heaven on earth where everybody is happy.

No , that wasn't for you , the part with the heaven on earth. I written it in advance for an idiot here on the forum Smiley.
The only problem in Korea is their leader and the ones governing alongside him.

Japan is by no means a rich country in resources... but look at the difference.
2713  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 17, 2014, 11:45:16 AM
That made me laugh Smiley , about the duty exports.

My information comes from someone who is living in Eastern Ukraine.


I laughed because Russia has a tax on imports from Ukraine Smiley.


Really? 1/6. Do they really work for 60$ /month ?

Not $60, but $200. That is the average wage of a coal miner right now, after the devaluation of the UAH.


And an average chinese coal worker does 1200?

2714  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Rome against austarity. Violence ensues. on: April 17, 2014, 11:43:26 AM
Clashes during mass eviction in crisis-hit Rome

http://rt.com/news/italy-rome-riots-crisis-092

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Currently, 90 properties in Rome are occupied by squatters, and 3,346 evictions were carried in the first six months of 2013 – a 10 percent jump from the first half of 2012 - the city council stated. The squatters represent a mix of Italians and immigrants, many of whom lost their jobs in the economic crisis. Meanwhile, Italy's Panorama magazine investigated property that is currently empty during the crisis, and put the number at 50,000.



They need to do that x10 times in x/10 time frame just to get all the romanians living there. Not even talking about the others or real italians.
2715  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sweden launches campaign to spread peace, love and democracy - through videogame on: April 17, 2014, 11:41:55 AM
I think Wilikon nailed it with one word, but I would even remove the "re-" bit. Take 'em while they're young.

There are already games out there that promote kindness and familiy values in a subtle way, without actually stating it as a goal.
I start getting weary when a government starts stating such goals.

But based on your assumption ,we have to tackle  everything that a government does as a possible threat to our liberty , pockets , minds?

Not exactly tackle, but governments tend to have a nasty track record in those areas, so any such initiative automatically raises a few red flags and blows a few whistles.

Worrying that much about what the government is planning to do will get you killed faster from stress than they can do it.
2716  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 17, 2014, 11:39:56 AM
Why anyone would buy until the dust settles on China is beyond me. Almost feels like throwing your money away. And no I'm not a greedy bear, I'm not a trader and never sold, just holding and accumulating. But I'm not optimistic about any breakouts until China is done banning, and might be hard to do without them.

The dust will never settle there. It like they've built a chinese factory that only produces blog posts and fake news.
Wait for the dust to settle in china and you could wait till your death.
2717  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 17, 2014, 11:38:32 AM


Why would you feel safe there? Most likely at that point someone will post a message in Chinese which causes everyone to absolutely completely totally panic and sell their coins.

If you hold BTC you can always feel safe.

Because no matter what China news 1BTC=1BTC , right?
2718  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ★KillerCoin★ | ★★ v2.0 Mandatory Update | OpenSSL 1.0.1g + DIGISHIELD ★★ on: April 17, 2014, 11:37:15 AM
Because the DIFF is good enough to mine solo.  Have been solo mining it for a while.  Just very frustrating to see the 1000000 in the wallet just to have it orphan.  Other coins I have never had blocks orphan (OK, when it's launched, but that is expected).  But just way too many orphans with this coin.



Just how many orphans you've got that you claim that there are too many?
I had well over a dozen in about a 12 hour period.  In the past 24 hours I have only had 3.  I can deal with a few now and then...

Sorry but taking into account 12 hours and the block time a dozen orphans is inside the normal and unlucky range.

2719  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | IPO | Escrow | 100% POS | New Source | Beta Available on: April 17, 2014, 11:33:05 AM
If Qora never returns, then eXo is the only winner...

hope he returns.. if another day passes, then I'll start to really worry

Really , I hate to ask you , but on how many IPO's have you actually been since last December?
And... how many successful ones?
2720  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | IPO | Escrow | 100% POS | New Source | Beta Available on: April 17, 2014, 11:32:10 AM
Since we all got here anyway maybe it would make sense to make something of it. For example we can do at least a simple fork of Nxt. Like Nas. At least it's something. People will get coins, nobody lost money. Additionaly to 10B planned coins we can release 1B dev fund and 1B marketing fund. Is there any chance we can have a couple of develoreprs that can do such thing?

Why should somebody create a coin for the people that invested in a fake ipo?
Whit this kind of userbase ... the coin is doomed.

Besides , if somebody from the investors knew how to do this , they wouldn't be investors in a coin , they would have already launched it.

Just some thoughts out loud. I guess you right.

Well, how about that. We can make a coin for those who sent money to Anon. We were mindful, we're good initial investors and obviously we wanted to get into new coin. If others would agree we could find a developer for those 46 Btc, could we?

You might not have 46 BTC to play with, as some escrowed investors would likely pull out.

Some options would be:

1. Create PoS bitcoin clone
2. Create NXT clone
3. Create coin as asset within NXT
4. Create coin as asset with XCP

Any of those could be done for considerably less than 46 BTC.

But I'm with niothor on this one; I'm not sure such a coin would be in demand.



Best example to clear things up.
200 000 coins or more , god knows how many BTC and how many $ vanished on mtgox.
The projects that started to compensate that loss for the investors...
125    KarpelesCoin   $ 1,106,459   $ 0.10   10,565,283 KAR**   $ 103   
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