Surprise of the night....
Another scammer. No response to PM's, no payment
Your payment address is: 1BkyqfHZZf2ZdvMgkB7F1Xt2jqDHb96cE9
I should leave YOU negative trust.... Stop empowering these scammers by loaning to them! All you have done is encouraged the next generation of scammers to take a chance, seeing how easily you were fooled.... Yep. No matter how many warnings or scams go down, someone always seems to shoot in there and give them a loan. People will NEVER learn, greed is far to over powering for many. I cease to have any empathy for them.
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martinver:
Abuse of the caps lock button.
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Let me break this down a bit for you:
Registered December 09, 2013, 10:43:16 PM (Newbie asking for large loan already) Asking for 12.5 BTC without collateral. (Bad sign) Now offers cash as collateral. (WTH??) Why should I give you this loan without any guarantee when I could just purchase the equipment myself and keep all the profits? IDs, passports, phone numbers, SS numbers, Skype, Mom's ID and your word means nothing. Basically, you want someone to take all the risk and you take all the profits. One would have to be a fool to take this loan but I've seen many fools. Ask for a local loan from a bank, family, friends or your ex. Do a car title loan, payday loan or pick up cans. If you want this bad enough you will do what it takes on your own. Earn it on your own.
I have lurked on these forums for longer than that. Cash is the only thing I can offer as collateral other than my previously stated low value coins. A loan is a faith based agreement that one party will pay the other party back. I'm not running a search engine, I'm trying to make money. It's my information and contact, not yours. Yes, it's a shot in the dark. I don't expect an immediate 'fool' to come in and help me out. I'm not exactly begging here either. If you don't have the money, and don't want to risk it, then lend that money elsewhere. That's perfectly understandable, and I am in no position to question that. I'd rather be in debt to someone who is familiar to the mining and bitcoin world rather than someone who is not. If I agree to this loan, you're going to send me $9100+ USD? How will this be sent? Edit: As a long time lurker you should know better than to ask for a loan without collateral.
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If you have the cash why not use that and save interest?
It's a lot of cash that my already strained savings account probably doesn't need taken out of it. There are also certain women in my life that will complain about it. Let me break this down a bit for you: Registered December 09, 2013, 10:43:16 PM (Newbie asking for large loan already) Asking for 12.5 BTC without collateral. (Bad sign) Now offers cash as collateral. (WTH??) Why should I give you this loan without any guarantee when I could just purchase the equipment myself and keep all the profits? IDs, passports, phone numbers, SS numbers, Skype, Mom's ID and your word means nothing. Basically, you want someone to take all the risk and you take all the profits. One would have to be a fool to take this loan but I've seen many fools. Ask for a local loan from a bank, family, friends or your ex. Do a car title loan, payday loan or pick up cans. If you want this bad enough you will do what it takes on your own. Earn it on your own.
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Large loan requires large collateral.
If I had a large amount of collateral, I wouldn't need a loan in the first place. I could probably do a cash transfer for the lender to hold on to though. If you have the cash why not use that and save interest?
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I'm in need of a rather large loan, and I need to have it quickly to avoid losing an important opportunity. This opportunity involves the acquisition of two November Jupiter miners. They run at around 1.3 TH/s total, a speed at which I believe I can quickly pay off any loans plus whatever interest is agreed upon. I can have the miners up and running by the 2nd.
I would use BTCJam, but their verification takes a whole business day which is time I don't believe I have. This is a public opportunity, so I do have competitors looking into purchasing the units. I would offer collateral, but I'm just starting out in the mining business (bought and sold some Avalon minis after dismal late game profits) and can't offer many valuable coins. I started out investing in infinitecoin, litecoin, and feathercoin, but they haven't really gone anywhere. I have mined a few thousand Tigers, and a few other oddball currencies. I'd like to become competitive but I can't do that without proper machines, and those are hard to come by unless you have a mountain of cash laying around or you were crazy enough to throw money at vaporware (I'm not).
I'd like to get ahead of those Neptune monstrosities before they're released, and net what I can before the difficulty increases, then switch to altcoins and exchange out. I would prefer to deal with one person in this affair to minimize payment complications; preferably someone who just happens to have a large number of bitcoins laying around. I don't want to borrow from someone who will expect an immediate repayment as mining takes time. All profits I make on the machines are yours until I have paid you off plus whatever interest you desire. I've never been in debt before, and I don't plan on staying in it for long. If things go south, I can always sell the units and recoup any losses. Or, if you prefer, I can ship them to you.
Let me know your thoughts, and perhaps we can work something out.
Thank you.
Large loan requires large collateral.
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SO DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THIS PERSONAL FKNG DRUNK ASSHOLE
Classy guy...
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SO THERE ARE NO LOANS, THERE ARE ONLY SECURED LOANS, WHY?
Do you really have to keep asking this? VVV VVV VVV VVV VVV VVV >SCAMMERS<
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WHY IS THERE A SECTION OF LENDING, WHERE NO ONE LOANS YOU, AND OLDER MEMBERS BULLY YOU BECAUSE THEY THINK YOU ARE A SCAMMER OR SO, SO WHATS THE POINT OF A LENDING PAGE, THAT HAS NO SUPPORT OR A WAY TO VERIFY OUR IDENTITY OR ANYTHING THEY WOULD REQUEST, PLUS SOME OLDER MEMBER ASK FOR A COLLATERAL THAT IS WORTH MORE THAT THE LONE ITSELF, ITS LIKE I GO TO THE BANK AND REQUEST 100 DLLS AND THE BANK SAYS YES I WILL LOAN YOU WITH A HIGH RATE BUT YOU HAVE TO DEPOSIT 120 DLLS, IT HAS NO SENSE. THANKS AND WILL APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK!!
High risk of getting scammed? Collateral should be more than the loan amount to cover the cost of default. It also makes a would be defaulter think twice about defaulting. Also, in case of default, there may be fees associated with disposal/recovery of funds. As for the high rates, you have the choice to say no and walk away. You actually answered your own questions in your rant. BTW, all caps doesn't make your point for you.
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Hi there,
I am looking for a loan of 0.2BTC, to be repayed in 4 weeks, with your choice of interest (I should be able to pay in 2 weeks, but I'm giving myself some leeway in case circumstances don't work to deadlines). I can provide plenty of documentation, but the only collateral I have is logins, and they don't contain money at the moment (although they will in the future). I realise that this is request is unlikely to be granted because of this, but I didn't think there was any harm in asking.
Thanks in advance, Anon110
Yeah, without something of value, this will be hard to get. You may get lucky though.
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Barium enema gone horribly wrong!
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Im willing to pay via paypal. Escrow services a must tho. Been scammed on here a couple times thus far.
So, you'd be willing to keep coins in escrow for up to 90 days?
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Personally, I wouldn't mine anything on a laptop due to heat issues but that's just me.
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still looking for some users with trust
Speaking of trust why has no one left you any? Seems like a pretty simple thing to do. Probably because of the charge back time limits on Paypal. I think you are confused on how chargeback works. That only works if you have a credit card attached to your paypal and you cancel payment through your credit card company. Paypal WILL RULE AGAINST YOU since you are selling digital goods if you try to cancel payment. I dont have a credit card attached to my paypal. It is all paypal funds. Therefore I CANNOT chargeback unless i say its an unauthorized transaction, which is straight lying. If you are in this to stalk the thread for 60-90 days, that is fine. and jonnydoge, if you click my trust, users have left positive feedback for the limited transactions I've completed. There ya go! Do you think scammers care about lying? No they are scum and have no morals. I understand your apprehension. Over time you will see I am genuine I honestly hope that is the case.
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I'm only getting 30-55 kh/s on my GTX 570. I know it can get way more. for example proof. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=66811.msg833904#msg833904Can anyone with this card and using CGMiner show me their command line to get their hashrate? Also the GPU just stops mining every 30 mins or so and starts again is that because it's overheating , is it normal? Why not sell or trade it for a more miner worthy card?
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still looking for some users with trust
Speaking of trust why has no one left you any? Seems like a pretty simple thing to do. Probably because of the charge back time limits on Paypal. I think you are confused on how chargeback works. That only works if you have a credit card attached to your paypal and you cancel payment through your credit card company. Paypal WILL RULE AGAINST YOU since you are selling digital goods if you try to cancel payment. I dont have a credit card attached to my paypal. It is all paypal funds. Therefore I CANNOT chargeback unless i say its an unauthorized transaction, which is straight lying. If you are in this to stalk the thread for 60-90 days, that is fine. and jonnydoge, if you click my trust, users have left positive feedback for the limited transactions I've completed. There ya go! Do you think scammers care about lying?
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I seriously want to drop negative trust ratings on people for being so fucking stupid.
I hear ya.
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still looking for some users with trust
Speaking of trust why has no one left you any? Seems like a pretty simple thing to do. Probably because of the charge back time limits on Paypal.
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I tried localbitcoins... closet guy was an hour and a half away...
Fine, if nobody will give me a loan will someone straight up sell the bitcoins to me?
Buy from them. You don't have to drive anywhere.
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Yes and he took it some how I knew he wouldn't give the BTC and soon as he got the payment he ran off.
Now you know not to use PayPal to buy BTC. Unless you can absolutely trust the person. And I'm assuming you marked it as a gift, and you can't chargeback, correct? Use Coinbase, It may take a week, but they're not going to scam you. I could help you, but i will only accept a moneygram or western union. Other than that, I'm done trading BTC for fiat. Gift or not, it can be charged back.
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