djjacket, fair enough.
Let it be known that I habitually backed out of deals. Should this warrant an all out scam accusation and forcing me to buy a coin from months ago? I think not.
Tomatocage, I am ready for your colorful feedback.
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So Guys I decided to give small loans for now. What do you think of it? I will increase the amounts as my membership upgrades. Rules: Newbies Don't even try to post as it will be waste of time. Unless you can provide a collateral Max Loan: 1.5$  No PMs. You must provide a reason for getting the loan and How will you return it. I will only offer this loan first to only 1 member as i don't have that much trust on community( Just saw a vip hero member scamming) So lets see who will take this loan. Escrow for any collateral provided through trusted third party is a must here. Good luck though! |
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I can name a handful of people that recently backed out of deals to buy coins from me. Even trusted escrow members.
In all fairness, will you guys flag them also?
I won't name anyone because I think it's not fair. People have the right change their mind.
Ente, seeing as you are really pushing me to buy your coin, it just shows how desperate you are to unload that. Why don't you just re-post it again and find another buyer? It's really not a big deal.
This thread is about you and you actions. Trying to use the Bill Clinton defense doesn't work very well. If you didn't want it, you shouldn't have bid on it. You wasted a lot of people's time. |
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I'll admit, I do have a bad habit of backing out on a deal if there is a better one around the corner...
That is about the worse thing I've done and I feel like it does not warrant a scam accusation page.
Wow man, thanks a lot. I said many times I will escrow and here you are doing what you're doing.
That's not what Ente told me. While this isn't a clear cut case of a scam, you do appear to be backing out of an auction that you won. That to me is justification for negative trust, not to mention the fact that you and your alts have been suspect from last year. You don't want to use escrow? Fine. Pay Ente for the auction you bid on and won, and he'll ship the coin out. If not, your rating will get a bit more colorful by tomorrow. This sounds like blackmail to me. Forcing a person to buy a coin so they can have neg trust remove is pretty shady. While it doesn't necessarily make you a scammer, it does call into question your character. When you bid on an auctioned item, you are pledging your word you will buy said item at the pledged price. When you back out without just cause, you call into question your word, character and your honesty. When you have proven to have little to no honesty then you have cause to post that you are dishonest. Dishonest people often scam. Does this clarify things a little better? |
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helo
thank you all for taking time and looking on the story. i need more time to read all again and reply as i m on bike travel now and cant be all the time wifi. its been going for months, please let it be a while longer. my bro bbxx is entitled to state in my name.
also have in mind reputation of my bro, as hi is imho worth full trust.
No need to thank me buddy, in the end this is about you and him and finding a resolution. Take the time you need, but remember to reply to him within the 5 day time frame as stated in the PM he sent you (it may be 2 or 3 days left by now). You only hurt yourself by letting that 5 day period pass, so I would absolutely re-read this thread tonight, specifically what the community's insight on this is. Since your making a thread asking the community to get involved, it's absolutely important to take the communities un-bias responses seriously. As for your brother, IMO, there's nothing more he needs to add at this point. It's between you and you alone to read and respond to the sellers PM and seriously see the options he is giving you on how to proceed. Don't worry about the reputation thing now. A + or - on a computer screen isn't the main situation right now, you getting what you are entitled to get per your agreement is bud! Let's get this resolved and dropped, then we can go back on the reputation situation. But it's almost impossible to solve a reputation dispute while the important situation of your BTC and Items is still on going! I realize your brother has been speaking on your behalf more then you have been speaking for yourself in this thread (I know your on vacation though so I understand!). Its better if you take 45 mins - an hour tonight and resolve this yourself, meanwhile have your brother just sit on the sidelines for a bit while you do so, and once resolved he absolutely has a right to then address the reputation situation! Seconded. |
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helo
thank you all for taking time and looking on the story. i need more time to read all again and reply as i m on bike travel now and cant be all the time wifi. its been going for months, please let it be a while longer. my bro bbxx is entitled to state in my name.
also have in mind reputation of my bro, as hi is imho worth full trust.
The longer you wait, the less your order is worth. IMHO, you need to be the one to address this as the person that ordered. |
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it is true above but why beastlymac has been cheating that he had not orderded anything?
why he had been ignoring him within 3 months having his miners?
maybe he was mining with them or sold them and bought back when they were useless?
That is a very big accusation to make. You would have to provide some proof to back it up. But you wouldn't be able to as it is untrue. Why would i tamper with a customers device? I have never done it before. I didn't do it with the other hundreds that i shipped. Why would i do it with 5 miners? yes it is very big accusation to make. but think twice about the story: the guy who is avoiding to give back 3.1 btc for months to unexpired consumer (by ignoring his voice) is SOOO greed he will make hot every chip, he have in (temporary) possession. All that is over and done. You didn't follow up with your order, check on your country's laws and you didn't give shipping details. That is on you, the buyer. The seller also should have been more diligent but as the buyer, you should have been following closely the order progression. Move on to a solution already, this back and forth isn't going anywhere. |
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it is true above but why beastlymac has been cheating that he had not orderded anything?
why he had been ignoring him within 3 months having his miners?
maybe he was mining with them or sold them and bought back when they were useless?
Best if you stay out of it and let the buyer/seller handle a solution. You are not adding anything relevant to this. In fact, you are muddying the waters so to speak. |
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Here is what it looks like to me:
Items were ordered, shipping information not given but payment sent. Is this why he was on a private list? Setting this aside from those with shipping information?
By ordering from that advertisement, you were agreeing to a No Refunds policy. Did you not realize that? Once they were ordered, it is done.
Why was shipping info not given when ordered? That's a lot of BTC to risk. Could it be you were hedging against the rapid devaluation of these units since the larger, faster miners were hitting the market? The taxes/shipping to your country are YOUR concern, not the sellers.
Do you not take any responsibility for not inquiring in a reasonable time frame on the whereabouts of your already paid for items? Again this is a decent chunk of change you plopped down but failed to send shipping info. This really comes across as very peculiar.
Now, it looks like you want the seller to eat the devaluation of these items you ordered while you get a full refund. You are basically screwing the seller hard if indeed the items are sitting there, in hand awaiting shipping information. If he was going to cheat you, why would he buy the items? He can not recover the full purchased value at this late date.
Both have dropped the ball on notification but the buyer more so as he risked a lot of BTC but failed to follow up on the shipping.
All these accusations are meaningless at this point. Both sides need to work out an agreeable solution.
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I have some question ..!
You registered that domain.
You PMe'd Pankaj about " If he's interested in buying it " .?
You claim you didn't knew it was registered by him...?
I missed something ? or correct me if I'm wrong.!
Also if you want to short things out you can once again try politely , he's a good guy. Maybe in bad mood when he left that trust feedback , and I can understand what made him mad :p
Yes, I didn't knew he is ex-owner until he informed. i contacted owners of BitcoinBazaar.co.uk , BTCbazaar.com, bitcoinbazaar.us, BitcoinBazaar.com(Pankaj) and few others. i got few replies and he informed that he's ex owner. Recently sent PM to him & he's not ready to pay more than $10. Still i can sell this domain for $50+ surely. I can't go with his offers because i'm not doing anything wrong. May i appeal to any MOD's here to remove my Negative Feedback? Even slanderous feedback will not be removed. Mods can't even if they wanted to. You need to work it out with the person that left it. Being overly negative towards that individual will not help. |
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If you go to www.pinnaclecredit.com you will find my name and an email address listed is consumer@pinnaclecredit.com. That email will come to me and I can respond to anyone that doubts the validity. These posts by ToddStriker are not by the Todd Striker of Pinnacle Credit Services. One of his posts indicated we hired Pixeldust for our website. That is entirely false as I am also the CIO and that is a decision I would have made. Regards, Robert Castle Chief Operating Officer Pinnacle Credit Services. LLC Its all well and good to wash your hands right away, but you need to post counter evidence.
Perhaps you can contact the real Shawn Niderost and let him peruse this site, particularly a few interesting threads. |
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OK, I know Im new to this site, but been trading bitcoins for a long time, but never gave a loan to anyone. I wouldn't mind lending this but only with solid insurance I get paid back. Can some of the other members, (not the op) tell me the safest way, if at all, to do that....?
Make him provide collateral. Read the stickies in this section. That's like the only way, unless he has a lot of trust. But he doesn't, so collateral is the key. jpoker272727, you are new as well and should not be asking to hold any collateral. Instead, look for a trusted member to hold any items. |
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for new members I think it would be very difficult to get a loan for the
shouldn't be that tough if he's ready to put MacBook Air 2012 up for collateral on a 0.3 BTC loan. As long as it is the escrow agent's hands, yes. |
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There needs to be some resolution. Blame game aside, a decision needs to be made on the items in question. Either buyer accepts shipment or agrees to sell and accept the auctioned funds.
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collateral: ps4, ps3, samsung s3, iPAD 64GB
You would have to send to the lender or held by a trusted escrow for the duration of the loan. |
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Hello. My name is Alexander and i'm from Norway. I'm looking for a loan on 2.5 BTC. I just made this account, and the only reason is to get a loan.  Payment plan: 20/08.2014 - 1.25 BTC 15/09.2014 - 1 BTC 07/10.2014 - 1 BTC Ill also give my phone number and address in PM if needed. Any questions, just ask. =) Bitcoin wallet: 1La2UZZURXGUSNb9G2ThmEncWdz2KsHpkX Here is some light reading you need to do before asking for a loan: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577765.0 |
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Another suggestion: Can you sell the items the OP no longer wants? If so, how much loss in value is to be expected?
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So where is this at? I got lost in the circle of Q&A. Beastlymac , how do you proceed to get this matter resolved?
Sorry what are you referencing? If it is about the pm the answer to it was given in the quote below. How i will proceed is. I have asked curious miner to provide his refund details for the single chip miner refund totalling ~1.082. I have also offered to post the 5 chip devices free of charge upon receipt of postage details another offer i am happy to make is that i will auction off the 5 chip miners here on the forum and post they devices to the winner all funds received for the devices will be forward to curious miner. Those are the two options i am offering. curiousminer, will you accept this solution? |
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how transparent is your secret private list coming out of the hat when needed?
how wothy are your records if kept in secret and not used when needed? (hint to answer pms)
you said that he was not at public list, but private record.
so i quoted you your false pms related to your records.
my "lies" are based at your erroreus and totaly unacceptable false customer support.
if you were honest, and full of respect to your customers, curiousminer would be refunded or his order would be transferred to someone else, there were many chances to transfer his order, but you have choosed to not reply to pm, or reply with false information and not reply to emails you wanted to be sent to you.
any comment on that?
unfortunatelly you and your trust network power are ruining any chances to getting out of this mess.
you create losses due to your incompetence and you are ruining people accounts becouse you are at second level default trust.
They are not false pm's they are pm's that relate to the public list this exact thing has been stated a number of times now you keep continuously bringing it up even though you know it has no meaning now. I am honest and respect my customers how would i have got such positive feedback if i did not? i just do not respect people who attempt to extort money out of me through the use of false claims. His will not be refunded as his order has already been processed. On this forum you move up in the trust network by making trades and getting feedback from multiple people it doesn't just happen overnight me being in the second tier is a testament to all the positive trades i have done and shows that i am trusted. I do not just go around transferring orders it has to be requested by the buyer. So you deem my feedback to be untrue? You don't think that you have attempted to slander me? Note this was all answered before you have just continued to re ask the same questions over and over and over. Edit: My latest positive feedback rating today (2014-07-29) just goes to prove that i am a legitimate seller and provide an ongoing service. So where is this at? I got lost in the circle of Q&A. Beastlymac , how do you proceed to get this matter resolved? |
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If he sends a message with the same address he paid from, I believe that would suffice. You can't be too careful these days, so many ID scammers lately.
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