i think this is all not more than just hot air i dont thin ki eth asics are true its not doable with the slow ddr3 rams even gddr3 ram ist to slow eth calculation is done by bandwith from rams and ddr3 or gddr3 are to slow i bet there will never be a miner that can do 600 mhs with just 750 watts of power the next 5 years
I'm not a pro regarding memory technology, but ethash algo seems to favor fast random access to relatively small amounts of memory, and thats where system ram excels compared to GDDR that is more suitable at transferring large chunks of memory
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You trolls should denote things properly, is not DDR3, it's GDDR3, my god, how uninformed are you trolls? GDDR3 is so different than DDR3. There are hundreds of topics about DDR3 and GDDR3, I advise you clueless trolls to start reading. Here is one, https://superuser.com/questions/704168/what-is-the-difference-between-gddr3-and-ddr3And by the way, its all about performance x cost, so stop crying and do something about your idiotic actions, stop buying rx 580 for $1000 then they will never build an asic for ethash. it says on bitmains post DDR3... not gddr3...... Don't bother, he's a troll ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Ethash is memory bandwidth bound...I don't think ASIC can help much there... and if bitmain can solve that, they better start making graphic cards, they'll earn more money ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Nvidia already said it will not focus on mining in 2018 and that tells us they know there is something they cant compete with.
Spinning the rumors here are we? Nvidia are not focusing on mining as they dont need to, why would they? They sell all the cards they can produce, same as AMD so why focus on something that are already profitable for them. Mining is not going to die in 2018, neither are ASICs coming the ethash in 2018, and even if they do come, they will not make any huge dents in the network hashrate simply due to the way ethash is constructed. Anyone saying otherwise are technically not worthy to talk about this. Mining at the moment is 4-5 times more profitable than a year ago, even if it drops to 1/5th of what it is today, im still making a decent profit from my machines - If that happens it is not due to some fantasy ASIC that some random website decides to spread rumours about. I feel your rage, you must be new to mining and must have paid a lot of money for gpus. There are lots of desperate people around, even integrated gpus they are using to get some few khashes hehe. So to rephrase, Nvidia said it would focus on mining in 2018 and now they said they will not, see my point, they know something that they cant compete with and this thing is recent, about a month, probably they have the same source as I have. If you didn't make same post abut death of GPU mining in 2015, 2016 and 2017, maybe that would mean something
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I noticed that these two exchanges (maybe other do it, too, I have no user elsewhere except bitstamp) often have some wallets "under maintenance", meaning you can's send coins from those wallets.
Fishy part is that they usually do it for coins that have lot higher price on another exchanges
(for example, steem dollar and vcash atm at poloniex)
Anyone else noticed the same?
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Good list, but why you think Daneel doesn't have competition? What about one in my sig (Gimmer)?
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Bumping this despite using another miner lately for ethash ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Its nice to have competition
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The Phantom Platform has finished development (not including standard version revisions), and you could in theory develop an application or website on the phantom platform. Their goal of a decentralized internet is not actually that unobtainable and with the right team is completely within grasp. The vision is that all parts of the internet will be housed across all devices that utilize the internet. We aren't talking like whole .jpg files or anything like that, but bits and pieces of data that to the device user will be imperceptible, but when taken as a whole will eventually make up petabytes of storage. If you have seen Silicon Valley season 4 then you might remember that it is very similar in concept to that. Now the positive thing is that SHIFT was made first so you don't have to worry that they are copying a comedy show from HBO.
Maybe they're copying http://maidsafe.net, though ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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My result with Phoenix miner on one RX560 (Hynix) and one RX580 (Elpida) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlpDxKjc.png&t=663&c=SN9cDWp9LPgYQA)
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OK, two possible scenarios (based on real-life usage):
1) I have a regular PC or laptop running. I use a computer a lot and my PC is running basically for 16 hours a day. I have space storage that I want to use for SIA. Thus, my electricity costs directly caused by Sia are a PC running for 8 hours per day. My PC (old Intel C2D E8400) consumes about 80 watts when on at idle. Let's assume 20 watts in case someone uses his laptop. 8 hours 365 days a year at 20W will give me about 14 dollars per electricity (Europe). If I let Sia use 1TB of storage, from my understanding of Sia, ~340GB can be effectively utilized for (the rest is redundancy). I earn 10.24 USD per year (current price of 2.56 USD/TB/month).
Result - loss of ~4 dollars per year.
2) I will use a dedicated hardware (let's assume something like Raspberry Pi) and 1 TB drive. RPi consumes about 1W of electricity. Let's assume SSD drive which consumes 0.05W in idle. So that means about 1W of power. Yes, then we have the electricity "for free". But your RasPi which is 40 dollars will get paid in more then 3-4 years, not counting the cost of that damn drive. Or you have spare 1TB SSDs for free?
I don't know - try to explain it to me - why is it actually worth for someone to rent its hard drive space. Even if the rewards were 5x that big. Even if I had electricity and the hardware (1TB drive) for free and the prices were x5, I would receive mere 5 USD per month. That is one hour of dishwashing somewhere in the pub like work in my country. And your space has to be 100% utilized which is clearly not the current state of Sia.
Yes - it may make sense for big server players who have hundreds and hundreds of GB spare. But then we are getting closer to centralized storage and not decentralized.
How about 3rd possibility? because 1st one you mentioned won't work at all, you need 99.9%+ uptime to earn good money So...how about four 8TB disks for 32TB overall (about 220kWh per year plus maybe 200kWh more for Intel Atom-like PC) for about $1000 per year minus electricity? That would about 1y ROI, but since whole market is low atm, so is sia coin...not too long ago that would be more than $3000 a year Of course, I took best case scenario, and truth is somewhere in the middle...point of the story is, you can forget using laptop, or anything non-dedicated...you need dedicated rig, same as with GPU mineable coins
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fwx1FGNo.jpg&t=663&c=phKArpgKYdwTBA) During the LA Crypto Funding Summit, Einsteinium team met with Xeeda, an LA-based startup company launching the first mobile cold storage wallet. EMC2 coin will be one out of 7 coins available in the initial release. Tell Xeeda to update their web, because I see more than 7 coins already, but EMC2 is not one of them From their web: "CURRENT SUPPORTED COINS XEEDA will support Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Ethereum, Litecoin, Ripple, Dash, NEM, Ethereum Classic, Stellar and all ERC-20 tokens "
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Sia coin is a good coin and also the project is really good compare to other sharing HDD but for going to $1 i must say it is almost impossible because of the coin in circullation is pretty big maybe in ten year or maybe not touch that price at all. It is arround 20 billion coin in circullation right ?
Could you please elaborate? I saw numerous times that this project is really good and storage prices are very low but why it should be profitable for storage providers? Current prices almost even do not pay for the electricity consumed due to 24/7 operation. maybe you didn't check lately how much electricity average HDD uses? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) On topic, I don't think its possible until network is fully operable and get some major company use it for storage (Netflix, for example)
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Probably, but not quite yet...maybe toward the years end
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Btw, take a look at their site, presale price has big discount (7 cents vs 50 cents for final sale). So you'll want to jump in early
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At least Dropd is a REAL product. 90% of these deals that people are promoting are scams! Noobs to cryto? What does that mean exactly, how about being a noob to the business world? You cant make up for that. Alot of dev risk is taken out of our deal because we are REAL - https://www.dropd.co/Affiliate program will be ready shorty, we are paying 10%! anyone who is interested in affiliating, please subscribe here- https://dropd.tokenlab.io/Hey, I actually agree with you...DeepOnion is scam, Bitconnect was scam, you're probably not...but make thread and ask people to vote for one project they never heard of, and let em decide between Bitconnect, Deeponion and Dropd I heard about you 3-4 months ago because I'm into Tokenlab and Expanse Everyone else should hear about you back then, too...this thread should have 500-600 replies already Bounty program is a good way, too But even expanse/tokenlab owners are pissed because they won't get anything out of it...try to come and check sometime in expanse discord
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Hello, what is the ico price and is their any bounty plain along with the project. What are your other plains to make the token better.
Unfortunately, it seems they're noobs when it comes to doing things on crypto side of things. I only hope they did better promotion on music side. I only noticed this project because I'm involved on Expanse and Tokenlab Otherwise I'd maybe be doing bounty for them and not Gimmer ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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