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321  Economy / Securities / Re: policy weaknesses on: January 22, 2013, 08:19:55 PM
I will create a poll to add these details to the policy. Right now they are in effect as "interpretations" of the "spirit" of the policy. But I want them to be clearly stated so my actions are clearly reinforced.

I apologize for my greedy interpretations of the policy. Thank you Akka and Newar and ErebusBat and kuzetsa for your efforts to keep nastyfans clean. I am happy to have such members in our club.
I am happy with those interpretations.

I also want to clarify the last point... I never thought you were greedy.  I just wanted to make sure that we considered all the sides, thank you for not letting ego get in the way as some may have.
322  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Electrum - Lightweight Bitcoin Client on: January 22, 2013, 06:51:36 PM
you can enter the private key at brainwallet.org and it will decode the public key for you.

please stop it. do not encourage newbies to give their private keys to third party websites.

you can import a private key in the GUI with Electrum 1.6.1, see the 'import/export' tab in your settings


It is all JavaScript based.  I have been in the code and I am comfortable recommending it.
323  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Electrum - Lightweight Bitcoin Client on: January 22, 2013, 05:03:23 PM
using windows client, so i think im screwed here, but well.. lets try this.. is there a way how i can receive funds to my default wallet via private key?

What do you mean via private key?  People don't send funds to a private key (that is why it is private).

Do you mean to say that you have only a private key and have lost the matching public key?  If that is the case then you can enter the private key at brainwallet.org and it will decode the public key for you.
324  Economy / Securities / Re: [NastyFans] NASTY MINING on: January 22, 2013, 04:13:31 PM
Perhaps it is easier to create a "lost and found" on nastyfans. It applies to each member individually. Then members have time to decide what should be done and where to send the refund. For each lost item a text area can be available for the member to enter instructions.

This does not clarify anonymous Bitcoin deposits. If suddenly 1000 BTC land in a nastyfans address I still do not know what to do. Maybe a general "lost and found" where we can use a poll to decide what to do.

I think that these, or something resembling/inspired by them are the only sane way to go.  I wouldn't worry about the micro-donations, but as you said if 1000BTC lands in our laps then we should know (in general) our plan of action.
325  Economy / Services / Re: GPUMAX | The Bitcoin Mining Marketplace on: January 22, 2013, 12:47:39 PM
Read the OP? It isn't like it was a secret.  Many people think that is how he laundered the coins.
326  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Find Trendon Shavers in person thread... [BTCST, BTS&T, pirateat40] on: January 22, 2013, 12:43:48 PM
Word on the street is that it is from a mickiney IP too.
327  Other / Off-topic / Re: I'd like to ask for some help. on: January 20, 2013, 03:22:52 PM
I just want to state that ANYONE who receives money from Matthew from this, I will consider as either an idiot, or a scumbag. An idiot, because you put your money into something as stupid as Pirate or this bet without taking responsibility for your own stupid financial decisions
Or a scumbag because you could easily claim that you made such a bet without proof, and are just trying to steal money from this naive fool

I hear your sentiments, but one of the lessons I learned in all of this is that this community is one obsessed with money (no kidding!) and that when you make a mistake financially, you have to rectify it financially. Some people might take a few bitcoins from me just to give them right back as a test of my intentions. Some might use the opportunity to make a quick buck, whom would otherwise not have paid at all. That's not for me to discern at the moment though, my task at hand is just making sure that I make amends so that I can continue living in a world where actions have consequences. It's an issue of mental health if nothing else. I have to stand up for myself when I am being abused, but also against myself when I have abused others.
Don't you have a google doc of the original bets?
328  Economy / Economics / Re: What is bitcoin backed by? My favorite answers on: January 20, 2013, 03:06:44 PM
Bitcoin is backed by math.
329  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SERIOUS VULNERABILITY related to accepting zero-confirmation transactions on: January 20, 2013, 02:58:16 PM
still no details? you got me curious...
Take a look at bitcoin magazines website.
330  Economy / Securities / Re: [NastyFans] NASTY MINING on: January 20, 2013, 02:14:33 PM
4. If a transaction is submitted within 7 blocks but does not become part of the main chain within 1000 blocks the purchase order is canceled. If the transaction becomes part of the main chain after the purchase order cancellation then nastyfans will refund the amount (minus 0.0005 BTC tx fee) to the buyer if the buyer accepts donations. Otherwise it becomes a nastyfans donation. (This is new policy.)

Why the need for the donation distinction? Why not just send back to the sending address?  I think taking funds like that could make nasty fans look very bad in the future.

You can not assume that people have access to receive Bitcoin from the sender address. Most people use online services and the sender address belongs to the service not the user.

I would love to send it back. But Bitcoin does not work like that. If there is no donation address then there is no guarantee that the Bitcoin is sent to sender.

I would say that is a pretty bold statement.  Also not all online services work that way, BlockChain.info's MyWallet for example works exactly like a desktop wallet, while InstaWallet functions as you say.

I would still say it is a better policy than just taking the coins and saying 'oh well... thanks for the donation'.   Several sites/services that REQUIRE the user to be in control of the sending address exist and have been very clear and don't seem to have an image problem.

I guess we could have a new option in settings:
[ ] If my TX has a bunch of dust inputs, so it is unlikley to get confirmed in a timley manner, then just treat seat purchases as a donation.  (If this option is unchecked and TXs are not 6xConfirmed in 144 blocks after your TX then it will be sent back once the TX eventually confirms (miuns 0.0005 fee).

But I don't really like that option either.  I think a simple warning on a purchase is much more sane:
WARNING: If your TX is not 6xConfirmed by block # xxxxxx (approx XYZ hours from now), then once it does finally confirm it will be sent back to you minus 0.0005 TX fee.  This is to ensure that seats are not locked forever.


One reason I am so adamant about this is because it is very possible for this to happen completely out of the users hands with many small inputs.  If their client doesn't do the right thing, or even if it does some mining pools will deliberately prioritize large TXs with small amounts.  Also a message about using the correct fees might be good.

/rant off
331  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 6.66 Mark of the Beast!! ZOMG!!! on: January 20, 2013, 01:35:51 AM
When we se 6.66 on Friday the 13th (next friday), the world will go under for sure!!!!

To prepare for this unavoidable event, please got to http://www.endoftheinternet.com/

I've prepared my spaceship, stack of supplies, and a few backups on the bitcoin block-chain, + some asics rigs, solar powered generators etc.

Cya all on Mars!
Funny.... 6.66 in July and now almost $16.

Can't complain about that.
332  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Going after Trendon Shavers, Pirateat40, BTCST on: January 20, 2013, 01:30:23 AM
That's a question for Theymos.
Will he answer that?
333  Economy / Securities / Re: [NastyFans] NASTY MINING on: January 20, 2013, 01:28:10 AM
Couldn't you just set the seats in a kind of locked state as soon as the transaction arrives ( 0 confirmations) and transfer the seats as soon as it's confirmed?

This is a good idea. But the locked state needs some time limit. Maybe 24 hours?

The answer is that block 152218 followed block 152217 after a delay of 1 hour 39 minutes 7 seconds. This was the longest inter-block interval in 2011.
How about: 6 x 1 h 39 min ~= 12 hours?

This is not about long block times. The issue today was because the transaction was sent but it was not picked up by a miner until 13 blocks later. Maybe the tx fee was too small?

This is about how long we wait for transactions to be picked up. If the tx fee is too small maybe it is never picked up. But we do not want to lock seats forever. We need some time limit. If it is picked up after the limit then it becomes a donation to nastyfans or refunded to buyer minus 0.0005 BTC.

After sitting on my brain for a day I recommend:

1. The buyer must submit a transaction within 7 blocks. (This clarifies existing policy.)
2. The transaction must become part of the main chain within 1000 blocks. (This is new policy.)
3. The transaction is valid after 6 confirmations. (This is already policy.)
4. If a transaction is submitted within 7 blocks but does not become part of the main chain within 1000 blocks the purchase order is canceled. If the transaction becomes part of the main chain after the purchase order cancellation then nastyfans will refund the amount (minus 0.0005 BTC tx fee) to the buyer if the buyer accepts donations. Otherwise it becomes a nastyfans donation. (This is new policy.)

If there are no good objections I will start a poll for these policy additions.

Why the need for the donation distinction? Why not just send back to the sending address?  I think taking funds like that could make nasty fans look very bad in the future.
334  Economy / Securities / Re: [NastyFans] NASTY MINING on: January 19, 2013, 02:19:15 PM
is Nastyfans/Nasty Mining going facebook?
this logo is so cute!
Lord I hope not.
335  Economy / Securities / Re: [NastyFans] NASTY MINING on: January 19, 2013, 03:09:13 AM
Looks like bASICs are shipping again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137285.msg1463473#msg1463473
336  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Blockchain.info - Bitcoin Block explorer & Currency Statistics on: January 19, 2013, 12:03:02 AM
Re: lastpass

You can tell LP to save all input and then it works fine.
337  Economy / Securities / Re: [NastyFans] NASTY MINING on: January 17, 2013, 03:30:44 PM
I thought it was OgNasty's donation for the SSL cert
I though he sold seats, not just donated.

If someone can provide a signed message with that address stating it was an accident, we should return it. Otherwise... oh well!
I agree... however I think we should also time-cap it to a reasonable timeframe so we are not sitting on it forever.  I just don't know what a 'reasonable' time frame should be.
338  Economy / Securities / Re: [NastyFans] NASTY MINING on: January 17, 2013, 02:38:04 PM
Thanks to the person that donated 14.8 BTC to nastymining. Cheesy
Does anyone know anything about this?  I am not sure how it would have happened, but looking at the TX https://blockchain.info/tx/934d18c5a8bc2678bc81ffbc891296d2d74dfc1802cd1dc898ded1a382b972d3 I think it is clear that was meant to be change.

If we can find the person who owns the sending address should we send it back?  I would love to get a bigger payout, but I also know that if it were me and i messed up that I wouldn't be changed ~$220 for my stupidity.
339  Economy / Securities / Re: [NastyFans] NASTY MINING on: January 17, 2013, 03:41:30 AM
Thanks to the person that donated 14.8 BTC to nastymining. Cheesy
No kidding.

Is there a bug though, or did we get a sponser (double mint)
Quote
total received: 57.16696414 BTC

total not yet distributed: 20.28930873 BTC

total received: 42.36696414 BTC

total not yet distributed: 5.48930873 BTC
340  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: iPhone IOS Bitcoin wallet is here! (From Blockchain.info) on: January 16, 2013, 10:06:21 PM
Mine still not working. Odd. It seems tho that removing the app from cydia does not remove the user data. Any hints where it's located so I can delete it myself?
I don't remember off the top of my head, but if you have iExplorer then it shouldn't be a big deal to find it.

also if you have the correct tools then a: find /var/mobile -iname wallet.aes.json might find it too.
Thanks for the help. I have a file manager called iFile, but I don't know where to look..

I also did the latter, and more:
Code:
#find /var/mobile -iname wallet.aes.json
#find /var/mobile -iname wallet
#find / -iname wallet
No results!  Embarrassed

But if this file is indeed supposed to exist this pretty much identified the problem. Block Chain app is unable to create the file. (Insufficient filesystem permissions?) I search root for "blockchain" and it found one directory. It was because I still had the app installed and after removing it nothing's left for my manual deletion. Sad

Apps in iOS are not stored in folders with their name though....  they are by UUID, which is why if you use something like iExplore it would help.
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