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3241  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: IPL( Indian Premier League) Prediction Thread, 2018. on: April 08, 2018, 02:27:02 PM
Toss won by Kolkata Knight Riders and they've decided to bowl first. RCB has so many big names, I'm expecting them to win this one. Brendon McCullum, de Kock, Kohli, AB de Villiers, with names like these, I'm predicting they'll give out a target like at least of 175.
3242  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: April 08, 2018, 12:45:16 PM
What options we have other than Skrill?

I see good old Payza as an option as well but seems like they ran into some problems in US recently so now they're dealing with European domain name. Seems a bit risky now to deal with them.

Try https://www.okpay.com/ although it takes almost 1 month to verify account, but I'm sure they are trust worthy.
But sorry as i haven't used okpay to cash out, but i did use it for payments.

I see they're moving to some other domain name as well (something like MoneyPolo). I really don't find such actions "normal", they always look suspicious to me. I remember LibertyReserve was closed just in a blink of an eye, making me lose hundreds of dollars there. I'm not sure if we can trust any online payment processor other than PayPal for keeping money online (oh yes, I remember, PayPal still doesn't allow Pakistanis, right? Roll Eyes)

...and I don't know why you guys made the Telegram group, it's banned here, I always have to use VPN to access it and it's annoying. Don't we have any other alternate option for it as well? Roll Eyes
3243  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: April 08, 2018, 12:33:24 PM
It was due expected sooner or later we knew it will happen. We always fail on catching up latest technologies Sad

However to all my crypto friends don't worry, we knew it will happen and when you invest in crypto currency we must believe its a long term investment. Remember HODL. Keep holding your crypto asset secure in your wallets. You don't need to cash out immediately.  Just wait for the right moment and right platform.

We will find out other options and for now immediately stay away from buying crypto currencies online specially using any kind of bank transfer. State bank might request FIA to keep check for online crypto traders. This is also one of the reason Urdubit is shutting down.

In Sha Allah later you will find many options online to utilize bitcoin/crypto currency. We can book tickets or purchase products online which can be delivered to Pakistan too.

Don't panic its normal... !!!

Edit: Time to say goodbye then, Though I have almost left the Bitcoin, Let's see if something good comes up I'll join back.
But can't we keep using online? I mean if we stay away from fiat <-> crypto trading aren't we safe?
If we keep our bitcoin in our wallet or do altcoin trading on international exchanges like Binance and bittrex etc? How this violates state bank of Pakistan?

No one can control bitcoin, this is what the purpose of the bitcoin is. So govt cant do anything about it. People are using it, people will use it. It may have some short-term effects, but people will forget it soon.
Yes and I think for time being we should stop buying bitcoin from our Pakistani bank account or credit cards. Also we should be very careful with localbitcoin traders there might be undercover FIA people. Trying to buy or sell to crack down the crypto traders.
If any one want to do selling buying with bitcoins best way is try to buy PerfectMoney, Skrill, Neteller and moneypolo then you can cashout in Pakistan without any fear and problem because these methods still legal and working by many members and companies

I strongly agree with BitconMarshal that we should after getting paid in Bitcoin convert that amount of Bitcoins $$ in Skill or some other online merchant and then sell it in Pakistan securely.

I am thinking of creating a telegram group for Pakistani users so we can have latest information and have a good chat what do you say? anyone willing to make the group ?

@shahzadafzal we cannot keep our funds online always, we have to cash it so HODL is not a good option for me. We cannot stay away from fiat (Converting the crpyto in Fiat).

What options we have other than Skrill?

I see good old Payza as an option as well but seems like they ran into some problems in US recently so now they're dealing with European domain name. Seems a bit risky now to deal with them.
3244  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 08, 2018, 12:30:06 PM
So, you guys ready to go back down soon? Smiley

If you call "back up" the "back down", then for sure. We're ready to go back down.

I've a feeling we're gonna see $7400 soon.
3245  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 08, 2018, 11:12:55 AM
$12288 game - it's gonna be 11th June. Smiley

Bitcoin trying to gain resistance support strength at ~$6900 right now.
3246  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: April 07, 2018, 10:43:11 AM
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1679446/2-pakistan-bans-cryptocurrencies/

Pakistan bans crypto-currencies

Yesterday India, today us. Roll Eyes

EDIT: Official statement from State Bank:

http://www.sbp.org.pk/press/2018/Pr-VC-06-Apr-18.pdf

So,

What should we do now?

Keep using Bitcoins if so How can we cash it out securely?

Edit: Time to say goodbye then, Though I have almost left the Bitcoin, Let's see if something good comes up I'll join back.

Who calls this ban? The news channels are shit

Quote
Neither recognized as a Legal Tender nor has SBP authorized or licensed any individual or entity for the issuance, sale, purchase, exchange or investment in any such Virtual Currencies/Coins/Tokens in Pakistan.

Exactly. That's what I've been wondering too. The subject of the notification is "CAUTION REGARDING RISKS OF VIRTUAL CURRENCIES", it's NOT the ban.

Dawn News has published this in a better way:

https://www.dawn.com/news/1400103/state-bank-warns-against-trade-in-virtual-currencies

"State Bank warns against trade in virtual currencies"

It's a warning, not a ban.
3247  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: April 06, 2018, 07:04:59 PM
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1679446/2-pakistan-bans-cryptocurrencies/

Pakistan bans crypto-currencies

Yesterday India, today us. Roll Eyes

EDIT: Official statement from State Bank:

http://www.sbp.org.pk/press/2018/Pr-VC-06-Apr-18.pdf
3248  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] LOCI Thinking Better. Together. on: April 06, 2018, 05:45:01 PM
I have a question for everyone! Which kind of wallet are suitable for storing tokens?

Any ERC-20 wallet can be used to store LOCI tokens. I personally use & prefer MyEtherWallet (MEW), but make sure instead of using their website, you download their code from Github and run it locally on your computer.
3249  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: April 06, 2018, 05:22:19 PM
I'm not saying that IPL is not a big league or PSL is better than it or anything like that. All that I want to say is, IPL should NOT become a border for ICC in setting up the schedule of international cricket matches. They should totally ignore IPL or any other league while making it, else ICC wouldn't remain "International" and would be called as "Indian".
3250  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: April 06, 2018, 01:39:44 PM
You have insulted Chanderpaul by saying that he is from India. Chanderpaul was born and brought up in Guyana, although his forefathers immigrated from Bihar (India) in 1873. It is no secret that Indian origin cricketers have always faced a rough deal from the WICB. To worsen things further, Chanderpaul is very vocal about his religion (Hinduism), which evoked a negative response from the Christian dominated WICB.
I did not know that to be a sports person you have to be from a religion that the majority of that country follows, are we talking about religion in this day and age, if Chanderpaul is born in Guyana he is a West Indies player and no wonder they are in trouble to find talented players like they had in the past, looks like they are no international matches this month, is IPL that big now.

The selection should be strictly based on performance and not that stupid stuff like belonging or something similar. This problem, even after all these years, remains just like it did before in teams of West Indies, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc. This politics is the reason why these teams have never been consistent like England, Australia, New Zealand, etc.

IPL is definitely over-rated. It's really a shame that we've no international matches due to IPL this month. The whole world will now be staring at IPL the whole month while, the cricket that used to be great, ODI's and Tests, are no-where to be found.

IPL starting tomorrow and it is going to be a lot of entertainment to many of the people and their will be a huge grand beginning happening tomorrow in the stadium where many of the stars would be performing before the match begins. Also tomorrow should be a tough match between MI and CSK.

Yeah, so? No matches planned the whole April (& almost the whole May as well) by ICC just because of that "a lot of entertainment"?
3251  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: April 06, 2018, 01:11:50 PM
You have insulted Chanderpaul by saying that he is from India. Chanderpaul was born and brought up in Guyana, although his forefathers immigrated from Bihar (India) in 1873. It is no secret that Indian origin cricketers have always faced a rough deal from the WICB. To worsen things further, Chanderpaul is very vocal about his religion (Hinduism), which evoked a negative response from the Christian dominated WICB.
I did not know that to be a sports person you have to be from a religion that the majority of that country follows, are we talking about religion in this day and age, if Chanderpaul is born in Guyana he is a West Indies player and no wonder they are in trouble to find talented players like they had in the past, looks like they are no international matches this month, is IPL that big now.

The selection should be strictly based on performance and not that stupid stuff like belonging or something similar. This problem, even after all these years, remains just like it did before in teams of West Indies, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc. This politics is the reason why these teams have never been consistent like England, Australia, New Zealand, etc.

IPL is definitely over-rated. It's really a shame that we've no international matches due to IPL this month. The whole world will now be staring at IPL the whole month while, the cricket that used to be great, ODI's and Tests, are no-where to be found.
3252  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 06, 2018, 11:48:31 AM

but most are... it's like theranos. it's not because it's ... that it's not a scam Smiley.

anyway I think that most dumbass low iq have been tapped out in scams... they have learned, next sheep wave will be more careful...

3253  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v11.6 (Windows/Linux) on: April 06, 2018, 11:36:16 AM
Hello,

How can I set fixed fan speed on AMD cards with claymore? -tt 40 -fanmin -70 -fanmax 90 doesn't work? What am I doing wrong?

You're trying to achieve a temperature that's impossible during mining, so your fan with -tt 40 will probably always work with full speed. Increase the temperature to somewhat like 80 and see then how it goes.
3254  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Best alt to mine for mid term investment - AMD GPU on: April 06, 2018, 09:28:02 AM
Hi all,

I have been looking arround but there is no recent discussion about coin to mine for mid term // like a Investment.

I have check those days and found some like below :

- EXP coin: I'm doing it since few days now
- UBIQ : seem having potential on mid term
- HUSH : no easy because not stable on my rig


Any advise / idea / shared experience

I am using AMD570-580 cards, so best result is eth platform

Tnx
Pierre

If you want to make a mid-term investment through mining, than there's something you can do for maximizing the profits instead of directly mining that particular coin. Mine Ethereum, then buy the coin you want from that mined Ethereum you got.

Like if you want to mine hush, instead of doing it, mine the most profitable coin (like Ethereum) and then trade it for Hush. Mining Hush directly means you're wasting some extra holding percentage of Hush.
3255  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 05, 2018, 09:43:17 PM

https://twitter.com/CNBCFastMoney/status/981944880388825091
@CNBCFastMoney2 hours ago
Attention crypto universe! @coinbase President @AsiffHirji will be making a major announcement at 5 pm ET. You do not want to miss this.

BCH is going to be delisted Smiley

I don't know why but I think there won't be any listing anytime soon on Coinbase, and this major announcement will be related to something else and not any addition of new coin.

Those who're buying coins like TRON and ZRX right now in hope of Coinbase listing will probably get rekt big time soon.
3256  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] MONETHA - Decentralised reputation with built-in payments on: April 05, 2018, 09:38:10 PM
Monetha is probably one of those coins which is constantly delivering but unable to attract buyers. Every app and update which they're providing is just awesome, but the real hurdle in reaching new heights is, the bear market. If these updates were released in December/January, it'd have been flying, like dent did when they released their mobile app. But unfortunately, right now, hodling is the only best option.

I should've sold a bit part of it at 1600 satoshis though, my order remained unfilled at 1650 satoshis. I've been trying to "bitcoin cost average" it down for a few months now. Tongue Hopefully, it'll prove to be fruitful sooner or later.
3257  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 05, 2018, 04:01:40 PM
I don't know why we consider the "India" factor that much in crypto. Indian contribution towards crypto volume is surely not above 2.5% to 3% or so.

India has a population of 1.3 billion I would have thought a ban there is significant even if user adoption is low currently.

Actually, more than 90% of population is completely un-banked as Torque said, more than 750 million have no access to even toilets (I'm sorry if it hurts someone around), and around only 400 million have access to internet.

Now, at most, IMO, 0.4 million people would be using crypto in India, and almost all of them would be having very low volume.
Are you sure about the 90% figure? Sounds a bit far fetched given that Europe and the US alone have more than 1B people.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/slideshows/economy/what-government-plans-to-do-with-the-old-rs-500-1000-notes/98-of-all-consumer-payments-in-india-use-cash/slideshow/55579468.cms

98% of all consumer payments in India use cash

About 98 percent of all consumer payments in India use cash, and the high frequency of handling forces the monetary authority to withdraw about 75 percent of its notes in circulation in a typical year - more than the number of bank notes collectively produced by all countries taken together with the exception of China.
I should've read more thoroughly. This is just about India and not the whole world, right? If so that sounds much more reasonable.

Of course, it's India we were talking about.

Time to get back to graphs...



What's next? Hoping for Angelo...
3258  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 05, 2018, 03:56:49 PM
I don't know why we consider the "India" factor that much in crypto. Indian contribution towards crypto volume is surely not above 2.5% to 3% or so.

India has a population of 1.3 billion I would have thought a ban there is significant even if user adoption is low currently.

Actually, more than 90% of population is completely un-banked as Torque said, more than 750 million have no access to even toilets (I'm sorry if it hurts someone around), and around only 400 million have access to internet.

Now, at most, IMO, 0.4 million people would be using crypto in India, and almost all of them would be having very low volume.
Are you sure about the 90% figure? Sounds a bit far fetched given that Europe and the US alone have more than 1B people.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/slideshows/economy/what-government-plans-to-do-with-the-old-rs-500-1000-notes/98-of-all-consumer-payments-in-india-use-cash/slideshow/55579468.cms

98% of all consumer payments in India use cash

About 98 percent of all consumer payments in India use cash, and the high frequency of handling forces the monetary authority to withdraw about 75 percent of its notes in circulation in a typical year - more than the number of bank notes collectively produced by all countries taken together with the exception of China.

but I read in zh that they took cash away and that it was a giant mess... even saw it in tv  Huh

Yup, they took a lot out from circulation, happened like 15 months back, to promote use of banks.

But do you really believe that within 15 months of time span, almost everyone being new to banks, would've even bothered to see what crypto is all about?
3259  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 05, 2018, 03:46:22 PM
I don't know why we consider the "India" factor that much in crypto. Indian contribution towards crypto volume is surely not above 2.5% to 3% or so.

India has a population of 1.3 billion I would have thought a ban there is significant even if user adoption is low currently.

Actually, more than 90% of population is completely un-banked as Torque said, more than 750 million have no access to even toilets (I'm sorry if it hurts someone around), and around only 400 million have access to internet.

Now, at most, IMO, 0.4 million people would be using crypto in India, and almost all of them would be having very low volume.
Are you sure about the 90% figure? Sounds a bit far fetched given that Europe and the US alone have more than 1B people.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/slideshows/economy/what-government-plans-to-do-with-the-old-rs-500-1000-notes/98-of-all-consumer-payments-in-india-use-cash/slideshow/55579468.cms

98% of all consumer payments in India use cash

About 98 percent of all consumer payments in India use cash, and the high frequency of handling forces the monetary authority to withdraw about 75 percent of its notes in circulation in a typical year - more than the number of bank notes collectively produced by all countries taken together with the exception of China.
3260  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 05, 2018, 03:38:52 PM
I don't know why we consider the "India" factor that much in crypto. Indian contribution towards crypto volume is surely not above 2.5% to 3% or so.

India has a population of 1.3 billion I would have thought a ban there is significant even if user adoption is low currently.

Actually, more than 90% of population is completely un-banked as Torque said, more than 750 million have no access to even toilets (I'm sorry if it hurts someone around), and around only 400 million have access to internet.

Now, at most, IMO, 0.4 million people would be using crypto in India, and almost all of them would be having very low volume.
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