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o dear leoc trying to blackmail eth. i wonder if leoc owns a dead animal farm? sounds like a piece of work im sure korvas agrees.
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pricing crypto success in $$$ is misleading. a cryptos value can not increase but because of the pinning to btc price you can say its rising when its not the case. crypto altcoins should judge based on satoshi value increase not usd $$$.
unless of course you are cashing to usd $$$ without converting your ion to btc first that is.
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As you mentioned fucking assholes Your very first post on this thread 21 April 2016 nuff said  What's your point and who's "nuff"? I think it's truly amazing that a year later all they've really done is a somewhat working wallet, although it took two clones to achieve that. The game (singular) seems to be shit, judging by abysmal levels of interest. I'm sure that's not what you were trying to say with that screenshot though. What is it then? Use full sentences. 1. What is ROI of masternode?
2. What is masternode earning calculation formula?
3. Is there masternode stats page?
4. How many masternode exist?
5. What kind of unique technology is here in comparison to Dash or PIVX and masternode?
1: 19.5 Months your MN makes $400 a month. At the current price ove $7800 per masternode (All these prices changes on a per min basics) 2: ((Total Block per day X CurrentMasterNodeRate (11.5) ) / TotalMasterNodes ) * Price Per Ion 3-4: http://masternodes.ionomy.com5: I dont know much about the tech it self maybe someone else can answer that. Reward is going down to 8.5 ION in the next few weeks. And no, there is nothing special about the tech. It's a 100%-premined transfercoin clone. My point is you were full of shit a year ago and a year later your still full of shit ION is a 100% premined transfercoin clone...... come on don't be such a dip shit you can do better than that https://github.com/ionomy/ion/wiki/ION-Technical-Whitepaper What suchmoon was quoted as saying was correct. It is a clone of transfer coin for its mk2 inception. It was also a 100% premined coin. A small percent of that premine went toxpy conversion but it doesn't change the blockchain proof that the initial allocation of the coin was all a premine i.e. 100%. The masternodes etc generate coins after that... but that is based on the premine coins which generate more. If you look at the amounts in the initial premine the majority went to the team. The rewards so far given away for bounties are quite small i'd honestly guess around 1% if that. Also the team is running masternodes etc to increase holdings competing against the purchasing base. That's the truth. State why this is incorrect and back it up Korvas because your comment about suchmoons statement being full of shit I I believe completely wrong.
I'm sorry that my photoshopped opinion from a year ago didn't meet your high standards, and still doesn't a year later. Perhaps I'm not cut out to be a deluded bagholder, so sad. And yes, ION is a transfercoin clone and is 100% premined. Do you have any proof to the contrary? The whitepaper you linked to confirms the 100% premine. Github confirms transfercoin fork: https://github.com/ionomy/ionThere is/has been lots of dev going on since the fork, hell we fixed some major issues with transfer coin that they adapted. You state that its a 100% pre-mined, wouldnt that mean there are no more coins to be staked? There was a chunk that were pre-mined for development and bounty's, but was a small amount compared to the total coin count. Big... all coins initially were premined. A premine means the initial mine before the normal operation. Coins that don't have a premine have a block reward from the get go. Ion was 100% premined. Some did go to xpy conversion but it was still premined... to ignore this statement means you'd prefer logical fallacies to reality. Also compared to the amount given to xpy trade in and purchase the team ownership was enormous..... The team also commits the premine they have to masternodes etc so competes against their user base even the ones they sold ico coins to. Its a bit double dipping greedy. And the bounties... well not much has been paid in the way of that from what I see. Do you understand whats meant by premine now? A premine doesn't equate to no future coins made its simply the mine before normal mining.. ion has no mining only staking and masternodes so it relies on the premine to generate new coins and move the blockchain along. The team owns the majority of that movement. |
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Algo: Proof of Stake 3.0 based on Transfercoin
Initial Coin Supply: 10,900,000 ION
- 3.4 million ION: participation incentives given away by ionomy.com
- 2.5 million ION: bounties for coin development
- 5.0 million ION: for offer through Initial Coin Offering
let me just quote post 1 for you by ionomy. hmm 10.9 million premine. wow and thats just their coins. considering the reqards for bounties are low that premine is high. @synthguage its best you review the first post. |
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so korvas is telling lies then and whales do get information the public doesnt get about the ionomy vision?
Me telling lies is something you need to decide for yourself well one of you is telling lies. wildshark says whales get inside info you say whales dont. cant be both. you shouldnt be telling lies because you acuse others of doing it and that would be hypocritical wouldnt it? so from that i infer that you are incluned to agree wildshark is a liar? is this correct? Korvas continually contradicts himself. Here's just one example from only a few days ago where he talks about getting information early. His post history has many others, but to be honest I can't be bothered to trawl through it. And yes I do have a superior knowledge of the situation but
A) If it's not announced by IONOMY it's not for me to say
B) Sharing information if it's not already known to slack users would for various reasons be just plain stupid
by that quote korvas admits ge has info slack doesnt which would be from whale status. there is potential insider trading happening. another red flag. this is a lie from korvas which means without justification he has no right to acuse others of lies and try to take the moral high ground. thanks altheshort I agree. To me it doesn't matter if it is legally defined (as yet) as potential insider trading, which is what Sharky appears to be hung up on. In essence, regardless of it's legal definition, the set up whereby they discuss advance information (about matters as significant as delays to products, as they did with Gravity) with a select group who are also the largest holders of the tokens leaves open the possibility that one of the whales may, at some point, choose to act on said information for their own financial gain and to the detriment of smaller holders. It's foolish, and the fact that the team are apparently ok with sharing information in this manner with no formal controls in place shows their naivety, in my opinion. This is crypto; it's largely unregulated. It's idiotic and shortsighted to just trust that the whales won't act out of self preservation because they said they wouldn't. @altheshort I have access to info prior to the public because I am a Whale and entitled to Alpha test the Ionomy products prior to release... All Founders have access to the info when they Beta testing the Ionomy product. Thes Whale & Founder services are provided to the Ionomy Team for free!! Whale and Founder services are free? LIE! None of the Whales or Founders get paid. They contribute their service for free. Having your input into the platform heard and used benefits the Ionomy products.. Look, this discussion will go around in circles because none of the whales will directly address the inherently dodgy looking nature of their relationship with the team, and most people who are fully in possession of the facts about that same arrangement likely won't invest. The discussion isn't about whether you get paid, frankly I wouldn't give a shit even if they're paying you in nuggets of golden turd shat out of a goats arse, particularly since you apparently gave them advice about 'Crypto Gravity', which has a grand total of 19 players so far this week. You know exactly why it looks dodgy and has the potential to be dodgy, you're just trying to weasel out of confronting it. Anyway, I've said my piece. TLDR; Whales (group of most invested individuals) get exclusive access to information direct from the team in charge before lesser investors and general public, leaving 'ion' open to manipulation in a scenario with similarities to insider trading. for this to be Insider Trading, the information needs to be related to the security that is being traded. Ionomy stock is not open to the public. Atoms are not a security, just a token that produces Electrons... Oh, sharky. Firstly, if you read what I wrote carefully you'll notice I said 'with similarities to'. I said that because I'm fully aware that the SEC hasn't assessed atoms (to my knowledge -- perhaps you can correct me if I'm wrong) and adjudged them to be or not be a security, so I cannot say with good conscience that it is, as defined legally, insider trading. But that does not proclude the fact that the way the information you exclusively get could be used might, hypothetically, lead to you gaining benefit similar (there's that word again) to that of an inside trader. Regardless of its (current) legal standing, I, along with presumably many others since there hasn't been an explosion in investment in the Ionomy, believe it to be a risky and foolish arrangement. another legal point is Atoms are not being traded.. they are auctioned... The Whales or Founders have no impact in the transaction and I don't recall any discussion on Atoms when in the private rooms on slack.. auctioning is trading.... its just a bid process with an initial price. thats like saying i didnt sell something on ebay i auctioned it. its not a car i call it a mode of transport..... i didnt buy my food from the supermarket i swapped green notes for food. see how dumb it sounds? |
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so korvas is telling lies then and whales do get information the public doesnt get about the ionomy vision?
Me telling lies is something you need to decide for yourself well one of you is telling lies. wildshark says whales get inside info you say whales dont. cant be both. you shouldnt be telling lies because you acuse others of doing it and that would be hypocritical wouldnt it? so from that i infer that you are incluned to agree wildshark is a liar? is this correct? Korvas continually contradicts himself. Here's just one example from only a few days ago where he talks about getting information early. His post history has many others, but to be honest I can't be bothered to trawl through it. And yes I do have a superior knowledge of the situation but
A) If it's not announced by IONOMY it's not for me to say
B) Sharing information if it's not already known to slack users would for various reasons be just plain stupid
by that quote korvas admits ge has info slack doesnt which would be from whale status. there is potential insider trading happening. another red flag. this is a lie from korvas which means without justification he has no right to acuse others of lies and try to take the moral high ground. thanks altheshort |
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so korvas is telling lies then and whales do get information the public doesnt get about the ionomy vision?
Me telling lies is something you need to decide for yourself well one of you is telling lies. wildshark says whales get inside info you say whales dont. cant be both. you shouldnt be telling lies because you acuse others of doing it and that would be hypocritical wouldnt it? so from that i infer that you are incluned to agree wildshark is a liar? is this correct? |
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so korvas is telling lies then and whales do get information the public doesnt get about the ionomy vision?
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crowns are game usable only korvas. there is no marketplace to resell crowns with limited mints etc.
@korvas
if you only get what everyone else gets can you explain why wildshark as a whale says hes privy to info that ionomy hasnt told non whales yet. he mentions getting into trouble for it.
so simple question again that isnt baiting its actually logic. you say you dont get info that the public doesnt so is wildshark a liar or are you a liar? its impossible for ionomy to give insider information to whales and also not to do it.
answer?
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9 months to make a game (projected 1 month initially) and 3 weeks for it to fizzle out. I thought this was a gaming based crypto currency? Are the investors not at all worried about this? Seems they just care about profits any way possible. Who cares about the white paper, I can make my XPY loses whole again!
If you knew what was going on then you would understand.... such opportunity.... you need to be selective in how you deploy resources otherwise you just squander it. As someone who has been involved since day 1 I'm loving it Any predictions on when ION will hit 50 cents How can I make a prediction? I'm not a whale and privy to all the inside information that you are. You basically just admitted that the only way to be on top in this coin is to be a whale. Such crypto. No I didn't say that, your just putting words in my mouth. I just said I knew more than you. Insider information would be knowing more than another whale which is not the case. Anyone can be a whale you just need to own 5,000 ATOMS which is going to cost you around $12k if your lucky. So you are telling me that people that own zero Atoms know just as much as the whales do? If this is the case, what's the point of being a whale? he just said that you can pay for insider information, and he has rationalised to himself that as long as he doesn't know more then the rest of the whales then its not insider trading, unfortunately in real life it doesn't work like that How about you qualify that last comment with explaining how real life works  anyone cannot do it as was stated there is a limited atom amount. those that are whales have information not known to the public and can use this to stock up or sell prior to general public finding out or not. wikipedia insider trading or dictionary it. state why you are possibly insider trading or could insider trade to counter this. trust me im not isnt valid. this isnt a vip game program where you get news of a new unit ahead of time. crypto has a convertable value and its a digital currency. your turn to explain why there is no possible insider trading korvas. the info on why it is has been provided many times and its a simple concept. please counter it or agree it is. I'm not an inside trader I'm just a customer that owns an asset (ATOMS). Owning more than 5000 of these apart from the benefits of electrons you also get the privilege of providing input to any questions IONOMY might have with respect to their business or direction. Also you get to test new stuff like Gravity or masternode hosting. The questions Ionomy ask just give you an insight......... To them though the BIG benefit is they get real feedback as both parties want the same thing it's a symbiotic relationship of customer/supplier.... no hidden agendas which in this game is priceless. do you receive any info from ionomy team or see anything in the works before its announced to general public via website. yes or no simple question |
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9 months to make a game (projected 1 month initially) and 3 weeks for it to fizzle out. I thought this was a gaming based crypto currency? Are the investors not at all worried about this? Seems they just care about profits any way possible. Who cares about the white paper, I can make my XPY loses whole again!
If you knew what was going on then you would understand.... such opportunity.... you need to be selective in how you deploy resources otherwise you just squander it. As someone who has been involved since day 1 I'm loving it Any predictions on when ION will hit 50 cents How can I make a prediction? I'm not a whale and privy to all the inside information that you are. You basically just admitted that the only way to be on top in this coin is to be a whale. Such crypto. No I didn't say that, your just putting words in my mouth. I just said I knew more than you. Insider information would be knowing more than another whale which is not the case. Anyone can be a whale you just need to own 5,000 ATOMS which is going to cost you around $12k if your lucky. So you are telling me that people that own zero Atoms know just as much as the whales do? If this is the case, what's the point of being a whale? he just said that you can pay for insider information, and he has rationalised to himself that as long as he doesn't know more then the rest of the whales then its not insider trading, unfortunately in real life it doesn't work like that How about you qualify that last comment with explaining how real life works anyone cannot do it as was stated there is a limited atom amount. those that are whales have information not known to the public and can use this to stock up or sell prior to general public finding out or not. wikipedia insider trading or dictionary it. state why you are possibly insider trading or could insider trade to counter this. trust me im not isnt valid. this isnt a vip game program where you get news of a new unit ahead of time. crypto has a convertable value and its a digital currency. your turn to explain why there is no possible insider trading korvas. the info on why it is has been provided many times and its a simple concept. please counter it or agree it is. |
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isnt that convert thing just shapeshifts skeleton api... any site can add it easy works already done
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everyone does realise all dash clones are pumping atm right with dash's 1000% gain? pivx etc.
amusing how people think its due to other influences... its certainly not gravity....
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so pay team ionomy to hold your ions so you can get back more ions later and do what with them exactly?
buy yet another masternode silly. as if you dont then your rewards dilute. ever wonder how those cards give more electrons? seems premine use is in full swing. its certainly not going towards no team dev members. |
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I think 500 actual users is wildly optimistic, to be honest. The number of active slack participants hasn't really changed since the game was released, and the daily volume on bittrex is trending downwards if anything. Combined with the fact that the in game leaderboard currently seems to be less than 100 strong and I think all the signs point towards far fewer than 500 active community members.
On the subject of the leaderboard, I hadn't fully appreciated that one of the top ranked names seems to share the name of the official twitter account, and as you pointed out there seems to be a few very familiar names on there. To me that just reeks of stupidity. Pre-release testers and team insiders shouldn't be allowed to take part in the competition, it gives them an unfair advantage, and more than that it'll put actual players off. Poor show.
Wasn't that the plan all along? Make Paycoin bagholders whole? Edit: looks like they don't even care to keep an appearance of a legit operation... this happened after we discussed fake reviews a couple of days ago:  I may have "photoshopped" the reviews to fit them into one screenshot. What's funny is that "Keira Thomas" has been playing this game since she was five! I thought the game was only released a few weeks ago. I can't believe that a five year old gets their own phone and google account and can type in complete sentences like Keira does. Truly amazing😜😜 Suchmoon and Yourself are in some serious need of vitamin D. The way you too bounce off each other wow your like the Heidi Montag & Soencer Pratt of this thread. Maybe I could pull some strings and get you both onto Big Brother as a couple..... would you be interested  so you arent going to comment on the fake reviews? you probably should if you want to be shown as impartial and considering of criticism. i personally think when a team does that it dilutes their comments of download stats in a negative way. this is because if fake feedback was purchased then its possible downloads were too. your thoughts on ionteam gravities fake reviews with reasoning? |
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atoms (previous xbits) were a way to participate in funding the new platform that ionomy has become. Most of the people who bought them knew that, and trusted Adams team to make something great, they have. More work is needed but that will come. The benefits that extended from that are a plus. Have a nice night, and keep on trolling ya trolls, we will still be here years from now  That sounds IONIC enough as a reply, thanks retracted! I'm glad your talking about xbits and the xpy to ion - participation? From the 'just to be clear' link to try to separate your stink - https://news.ionomy.com/just-to-be-clear/"Is ION the same thing as XPY? No. ION is a coin that is wholly independent from Paycoin. Paycoin still exists as its own coin and blockchain. ION was not a coin swap, hard fork, or rebrand in any way, shape, or form." Yet...Besides exchanging xpy for ion, they also exchanged xpybits for atoms.
Sure you guys want to claim no connection again?
Yep 100% no connection This was the ION team giving customers an opportunity to follow or exit. BTW. For those that owned XBits they could have left sold them for BTC making a small profit.... most didn't Participation in funding the Ionomy platform sounds like it exchanging or swapping XPYs and IONs. It would probably be good to clear what verbs and adjectives were performed inside the participation. Wouldn't want to misunderstand the great work performed.  Also, what LLC sold the coins or was it just Adam on the exchange? You have absolutely stated nothing of content here, playing with words doesn't make an argument. Xbits had nothing to do with XPY, it was a trust in the platform and the leadership of Adam and the team. We traded(I hope you can understand the difference) xpy for ion. The bits had nothing to do with a particular coin. Seems the only thing this user pixel is good at is misinformation and doxxing people. He is to worried about trying to find out everybody's real names and info you would think he would at least find the right pages after he googles everybody. What a chump. you sure? what about korvas wanting phone pics with gps data as proof or do you think he wasnt after a dox? im interested why he could want gos data. |
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Is this a LetsMakeLazyWhaleBastardsRicherCoin topic?
Seriously.. you should consider relaunch with a fair distribution - each linked btc address gets equal.
Otherwise this coin is DOA.. sorry.
how do you handle large addresses using a wallet script to split to 1000 addresses then register all addresses. not sure you thought this through... |
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simdudes is missing the app description. this is one thing you noted as a difference to suchmoons. why are you not querying that?
its also well established that emulators are used in app development and tests. the xcode iphone emulator is used as a dev tool as it reflects the environment. its use is documented in apples tutorials etc. people dont upload every build to the device and test. i dont know ehy you harp on this. in any case suchmoons photo shows its happening on a phone.
im sure metadata can be faked as it follows a format. people can write tools that modify, strip, change it. meta data is no true measure of authenticity.
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If they were really from a phone then yes it's a big deal
Let me guess what your next mountain of bullshit is gonna be based on: 1) Pic was altered using a pencil therefore fake cuz suchmoon's credit card must be known to everyone. 2) This is different from the other pics therefore fake cuz ionomy doesn't believe in reproducible bugs. 3) There is no GPS therefore fake cuz you can't send me dead bunnies. 4) But most likely some other completely moronic reason. Surprise me.  Korvas, this image shows the same error on suchmoons phone. Quit fucking saying it is the emulators fault. This images clearly shows the same error on an actual android phone. You may be the most arrogant, dumb whale I've ever seen. Now you are completely ignoring valid images just so you can keep going on with your suchmoon emulator conspiracy theory. Here it is obvious that it is happening on a phone as well. Get your head out of your ass, you're starting to look too damn stupid and untrustworthy. This discussion is getting stupider by the post......... This is a picture taken of my Samsung S7  This is suchmoon's  And you wonder why I'm claiming the picture is fake Can you spot all the differences Are you fucking kidding me? You are looking dumber and dumber the more you push this issue. Why don't you try and fix the issue instead of being the issue? I am going to try and fix the problem that's why I'm asking suchmoon for the Make and Model number of her phone. so now the problems real and not blatant lies? does this mean you admit to being foolish and can apologise when wrong or? im still curious on spot all the differences. sim dude posted a phone shot above and no description text? is that a fake shot then? android with phone sizes and reach of companies doesnt always look consistent. im surprised you jumped to conclusions korvas. regardless of if there was abuse or not calling someone flat out a blatant liar is as strong a word. if you find this to be true id expect an apology and retracting your original position. i think your "passion" and desire for it to succeed is overriding any rational judgement and logic on comments. |
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why is ion going down in price if app store purchases go to exchange buying of peoples sells? i dont think anyones considered that yet.
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