Unfortunately we don't have to change email if we have 100% proof that you are the account owner. Are they saying that even if they have 100% proof you are the account owner they still don't have to change the email address or, given their piss-poor grasp of English, do they actually mean that unless they have 100% proof you are the account owner they don't have to change email, OR is it that they are saying they have 100% proof you are not the account owner? |
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I've asked a couple of other DT members to review this thread and respond accordingly. @TroubleBuddy, do you speak Russian or was that post they deleted in their thread a google-translate job? [edit] Update: A reddit user has also provided a details description of their issue which sounds like it got the same treatment: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5zdur1/btce_keeps_my_bitcoins_does_not_let_me_withdraw/He references a more organised push being made to deal with this account blocking issue: http://btceclaims.github.io/I have tagged user Balthazar accordingly. If the rep/creator of BTC-E doesn't care about the forum user account being tagged, perhaps he will give more of a shit about his personal one. |
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~snip~
Roman Parra, a Colombian man behind the now-defunct Bitcoin exchange, Colbitex, was proven back in September to be intimately connected to this operation, the below image showing that back in the early days of Recyclix he was sending out the fiat payments to users from his own paypal account:
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It looks like this "Polish-registered" Ponzi scheme is not so Polish  Polish newspaper that publish about them, claim that is only one owner of this company, and it is citizen of Latvia. Unfortunately not give his name nor surname. Latvia is a known offshore haven... could be that Mr. Parra has a shell company in Latvia that owns Recyclix in Poland, or some such scheme. Although a stolen identity or a co-conspirator is also a possibility. Judging by Roman Parra's previous history of involvement with other scammy operations it would suggest his participation in the early days of Recyclix, in sending out the payments from a paypal account registered to his personal email address, he is either part of a core group likely involving 'Eastern European'/Russian criminals, or, even if he were to claim he was 'only' paid to process the money on their behalf, is likely to have incriminating evidence and an electronic trail the authorities could use against them. I'm still betting he's the originator of the idea, even if criminals from other countries were involved. His background is industrial processes and fucking marketing, of all things! Plus he already had tried a 'green' collective investment 'scheme' supposedly planting trees, so plastics recycling just seems to have been a natural step up from that. |
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Investigating Razormind case! Coinidol.com News Outlet invites every member of the crypto-community to join the jury in the case, where scammers have allegedly stolen about $10,000,000 and asks everyone to participate in an open vote - https://coinidol.com/coinidol-to-hold-public-trial-of-razormind-scammers/ The story we want to tell you is about how Coinidol.com had to refuse to advertise the company of a suspicious client after our own study into their reliability. We found out that they have already stolen $10,000,000. By the time we had figured it out, they had already sent us $1,000. We wanted to send that money back to Jawad Yaqub, but isn’t it odd to return stolen money to a thief who has taken that money from other people? However, we are not going to keep this money either. We don’t want stolen money. We believe that these funds should be sent to charity. But we want to set a precedent of market self-regulation without police to verify our decision with the votes of the community, just like we do to verify the block in the Bitcoin network. We want to act according to the decision of the crypto community. George Gor, CEO and co-founder of Coinidol.com is explaining this public initiative with the words: "Can the whole crypto world set a precedent, when we force scammers, who have stolen up to $10 mln in Bitcoin to pay $1,000 to charity?” As has already been pointed out by a commenter on that page, if the funds are suspected to be the proceeds of crime, which they are, you need to report such to the relevant authorities and retain the money as evidence, to be handed over to Law Enforcement as part of the case against Yaqub. Knowingly spending, or giving away, money that you have already declared you believe to be stolen is a crime itself. Vigilantism is a legal minefield and, frankly, the energy would be best spent on tracing the location of the ICO funds under Jawad Yaqub's control. He has already posted a picture on his facebook which shows a bitcoin ATM machine in the background, so there is every motivation to trace the funds before he can cash them out. There may still be a chance they could be recovered through legal action against him, criminal and civil. It is good to see an industry news source attempting to take a meaty bite out of this story, instead of the piss-poor 'Red Flags' apologia on CT written by Niall Maye, which basically was an attempt to downplay the blatant facts of the scam and his part in repeatedly promoting it. But I do have to say that Coin Idol article is a little all-over-the-place and really only skims much of the truly interesting aspects of this fraud. It also completely misses the fact that this thread already uncovered the truth that the DeOS software was actually ripped from the OS.JS open-source project and that its author, Anders Evenrud, had to go as far as to post a disclaimer stating that DeOS was nothing to do with him and wasn't even a viable version that Razormind were running. Note to journalists considering researching this topic: This thread has many posts, I accept, but there is a LOT of incriminating evidence and cool facts to be found within its pages by the writer who is willing to put the time in and read the fucking thing!  |
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And ReaLm85, who had an answer to every question and was always here to defend Recyclix, hasn't logged in for over a week.
They started to draw media attention so it's probably a good moment to pack up and run.
ReaLm85 was a long-time defender and shill for Recyclix, to the degree I suspect they may even have been part of the scam. Seeing as the shit is definitely heading fan-ward, let's just remind ourselves of some of the people behind-the-scenes. Roman Parra, a Colombian man behind the now-defunct Bitcoin exchange, Colbitex, was proven back in September to be intimately connected to this operation, the below image showing that back in the early days of Recyclix he was sending out the fiat payments to users from his own paypal account: As you can see they had to process fiat payments through their existing payment processor account, which was registered to a company called 'C.I. Alternative Trade Ltda' for which online searches show a history of fraudulent behaviour. This is where we first meet 'Roman Parra' by way of his hotmail address linked to that payment account. So, now we've objectively established that the company behind Recyclix is 'C.I. Alternative Trade Ltda', let's see what information can be found about it: As you can see, it is classed as a small promotions and advertising company. But who is running the show there? Oh look! It appears that a gentleman called, 'Roman Eduardo Parra Gonzales' is the full name of the registered manager for this criminal enterprise. Now, let's set about connecting the scammer Roman Eduardo Parra Gonzales, who owns the email account roman_parra@hotmail.com to the supposedly respectable Roman Parra, bitcoin entrepreneur. Prior to becoming the thieving douchebag he would later choose to be, a young Roman Parra attended University and studied Industrial Production and Engineering. He wrote a detailed thesis on the subject, in Spanish naturally, but we are not particularly interested in the content of this thesis, just the name and email address of the student named as its author: Roman Parra Gonzales wrote this thesis and, as you see, his email address is the very same roman_parra@hotmail.com who would later go on to become the fraudster douchebag behind many online scams. This is a linkedin page the supposedly respectable bitcoin entrepreneur version of Roman Parra has: His 'legitimate' business interests are listed there, such as Colbitex, Bitcoin Suramerica and Woodshares, which shares remarkably similar characteristics to the enviro-friendly Recyclix scam as you 'invest' in trees, you know, for the environment! Roman Parra knows his shit when it comes to yanking people's chains about the environment and persuading them to part with their hard-earned cash on the promise of bigger returns, later. His Twitter account also lists his CEO and Founder status of these companies: Handily enough, it also shows he has another name after the 'Parra' beginning with 'G' and I'm betting big that is stands for, 'Gonzales'. Ok, so now we have the 'CEO and Founder' of these supposedly legitimate bitcoin companies with the name 'Roman Parra Gonzales', anybody want to bet there's an 'Eduardo' in there, too? But let's take a look at the rest of his linkedin page: How interesting! The supposedly respectable bitcoin entrepreneur version of Roman Parra studied Industrial Production and Engineering, as well as training as a Marketing Specialist. Remember that C.I. Alternative Trade Ltda is listed as an advertising and promotions company? My, how the young engineering student has grown! Funny how he fails to mention being manager of C.I. Alternative Trade Ltda in the list of companies in his linkedin profile. Isn't it 'funny' how Recyclix just went through a period of very actively demanding multiple ID documents from their 'investors'. Not only do they get to steal their customer funds, they also get a vast collection of valuable-on-the-black-market identity documents. |
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Nice! About time this scam got some mainstream media coverage. Let's see how this goes down on their Facebook page. http://wiadomosci.dziennik.pl/wydarzenia/artykuly/544257,recyclix-oszustwo-piramida-finansowa-amber-gold-smieci-recykling.htmlAnother pyramid scheme tailored Amber Gold. This time built on garbage ...
Recyclix. Is the name of the company, which decided to foment ecological revolution. Business idea - presented to potential investors - is simple. Man pays Recycliksowi money , in return for which he receives a virtual ... garbage. The company buys waste and then processes it and sells. Profit shares and investors. How much can you earn? 14 percent. monthly. What gives exactly 481 percent. per year. According to estimates by the same company trusted by its approx. 100 thousand. Poles. According to our calculations, the number may be three times smaller, but still impressive.
The company boasted that its business model supports even the Latvian Ministry of the Environment. And how is it in reality?
Recyclix is a limited liability company, whose sole shareholder is a citizen of Latvia. Its share capital amounts to 5 thousand. zł. Reputation in the market?
- We do not know of such an entity in the industry. Only seen them trivial movies on YouTube. If you deal with recycling, which I doubt, it is certainly not on the scale of the declared - says Dariusz Matlak, president of the Polish Chamber of Waste Management. And he adds that, at first glance, the operation of the company reminds him of financial pyramid. The model is simple: as long as there is no shortage willing to invest their money, those who put the capital were the first to get a solid return. However, when the interest decreases, the company rolls out of the market.
- Promised by Recyclix profits is nonsense. I'm surprised that at a time when everywhere talking about Amber Gold, people still give up to take on similar patterns - says Matlak.
The fact is that the measures that its activities have invested thousands of Poles.
The support of the Latvian government is a myth. The one who had given him, which Natalija Cudečka-Purina, a senior expert in the Ministry of Environmental Protection, tells us categorically that I have never supported the activities of the company. Her only contact with the company was that I was invited to the conference, which was attended by Recyclix, and spoke to her generally about waste management.
The activities of junk business interested in recent weeks, the Financial Supervision Commission (KNF). Her official position is: "The Commission recognizes the evidence that could indicate a possible violation of the law." At stake is the notorious scandal Amber Gold objection of art. 171 banking law. It specifies that you can not without the permission conduct the business of collecting funds from other people while burdening their risk of losing money. Threatens even 5 years imprisonment.
Interestingly, the issue became interested in August 2016. Commissione Nazionale per le Societa e la Borsa (CONSOB), which is Italian counterpart KNF. And this is because the business sense of the Polish company believed approx. 40 thousand. Italians. Recyclix fact intensely advertised not only on the Polish market, but also just in Italy, Germany and Latvia.
CONSOB stated that the activity registered in Poland of the company testifies to the fact that it acts as a pyramid scheme. What is prohibited not only by Polish law but also Italian.
KNF its preliminary position generated in mid-February. A Recyclix February 27 put to the supervisory authority and the prosecutor's office in the hands of a solid weapon. On that day, because the company informed investors that ... they take them half the money paid. And - what is more - do it according to their own rules stated on the website. Interestingly, like most of its provisions in Polish, so note that the paid agents may chasm in the event of force majeure - in English.
Why Recyclix took people paid money? As he explains, is the effect of fire of 14 February. in Brożku (Lubuskie), as a result of which burned one of their landfills. Speaking so vividly, as the smoke went waste company, just as the smoke went investors' money. The thing is that indicated by the company dump, which burned down, did to her was not.
- The owner of the landfill is Deko-process sp. Z oo - informs us Zbigniew Fąfera, Prosecutor's Office in Zielona Gora. This entity, at least formally, is in no way connected with Recycliksem.
- So it comes out that it took my 1400 zł, because someone burned a mountain of garbage. I do not care?! - He tells us one of outraged investors. And he adds that the first thing he did when he learned about the confusion surrounding the company, it ordered the payment of the remaining funds in the account. These, however, also did not receive.
We wanted to speak to a representative Recycliksu. Our questions sent by e-mail, but no one answered, and the telephone was received by Ms speaks with a distinctly eastern accent, which at the request of the reply said only: "dobzie, I'll try." |
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So the Recyclix criminals are trying the old "We have to change fiat to BTC in order to cover your BTC withdrawal" excuse for why they aren't paying out. But, given that they also complain about having to sell the BTC they receive from their 'investors' in order to buy the plastic waste in the first place, they already have a rich source of BTC they can buy and sell FROM/TO themselves. So when they, supposedly, sell the final pellets to whomever they are pretending is buying them, they should be receiving hard currency which would be exchangeable internally for the incoming BTC deposits they have in order to cover outgoing customer withdrawals, while also freeing that fiat currency for use in the process of buying the plastic waste. If they were a legitimate operation and not a ponzi scam they would be doing exactly this and not trying to fob their 'investors' off with excuses as to why they can't process their withdrawal requests promptly. |
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from what i understand... they are lawyers.
Not lawyers, accountants. Well, one of them is. |
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Frankly at this point you should already have contacted a lawyer to get your money back.
If the amount you have lost is less than GBP10,000 you can engage UK solicitors to take the case to 'Small Claims' court whereby a judgement in your favour would also include your legal costs. You don't have to be present for any of the process and the weight of evidence is most definitely on your side.
Some people may have only spent a few hundred quid of bitcoin on buying these fraudulently-promoted tokens at the time but now those few bitcoin are worth thousands. A case could clearly be made for ensuring your refund includes legal costs and a return of the bitcoin you paid.
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A group of people (especialy 1) made a video on YT.
And say "Yes they take half of your money but this is only temporary". Only to June.
But as I have pointed out, Recyclix has no right to deduct from user balances as the pre-fire 'Terms' wording did not have the 'Risk Sharing' force-majeure clause. That wasn't added until over a week after the fire. They can talk all they want about how this is 'only temporary' but they are all pretending like Recyclix was entitled to do what they did when, according to the 'Terms' which were in place at the time of the force-majeure event, they absolutely were not. |
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I've added this to BTC-E's threads to see if we can't get a response from them. Deal with this properly! Do not ignore. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1739698.0All you have done so far is to accuse the people who are trying to get you to resolve this of being scammers - You have done nothing to prove that Steven009 is not who he says he is, instead you have closed the ticket without resolving it. You appear to be the guilty party so far and I would caution everybody against using this exchange unless and until this account recovery ticket is properly dealt with. If you think Steven is a crook then prove he is not who he says he is, the person named as the owner of the locked account that he has been trying to recover access to for OVER A YEAR. It is utterly absurd that this matter is still unresolved either way. Update: BTC-E's response to the above post and others like it requesting they properly deal with this ticket is that they just deleted them from their moderated threads. @Steven - I assume you've had no further correspondence from them either? |
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Any users here aware of when and how they oh-so-conveniently amended their Terms to include the new 'Risk Sharing' clause?
Don't bother answering this, I've just proved they added that clause AFTER the fire which makes it utterly unenforceable: This page is a copy from their website taken on 21st February. The fire was on the 14/15th Feb. The new clause requiring all users to share the risk of loss in a 'Force Majeure' condition, however, was surreptitiously added over a week AFTER the fire: So, no, Recyclix, nice try but you missed on that swing. You cannot enforce this clause and, therefore, you are not entitled to take from your customer balances. |
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Buuuuuuut. . . perhaps not so expertly played after all. It all comes down to when and how Recyclix changed the 'Terms of Use' User Agreement to include the, remarkably convenient, 'Risk Sharing' clause. You see, there are predominantly two types of user agreements: https://termsfeed.com/blog/update-notice-legal-agreements/If users had to click on an 'I Agree' button or checkbox upon their next login following the inclusion of this text then it is more enforceable, albeit given Recyclix are operating a ponzi scam it may well be void anyway. But, if they were not specifically advised as to the changes and the updated agreement was simply posted to a page on the Recyclix website, then even a legitimate company would struggle to argue their case for its enforcement. https://termsfeed.com/blog/update-notice-legal-agreements/Any users here aware of when and how they oh-so-conveniently amended their Terms to include the new 'Risk Sharing' clause? |
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So here we are, every single current user of Recyclix is co-opted into paying for the 'profits' withdrawn from the scam before this 'force majeure' event. This, incredibly convenient scapegoat of a force majeure, is covered by the T&C's https://recyclix.com/terms/BTW, these T&C's never used to contain this clause. Luckily they only recently updated it to go into so much more details about what would happen to customer funds in the event of a force majeure, otherwise their ass might not have been quite so covered following this totally-not-suspicious-fire which occurred shortly afterwards. Oh and how Recyclix have made sure to explicitly call it such, too. Just in case their users start getting a little uppity about having their funds stolen by these scammers. https://recyclix.com/news/recyclix-on-temporary-decline-in-production-capacity/Well played, Recyclix, well fucking played. |
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I think the things are very clear with Recyclix. Reading the most recent news from their website I can say only "how convenient!" It's a perfect excuse to delay withdrawals and implement limits to the users. Now a new "rule" is applied:
"...all Recyclix website users, who deposited before the fire on February 14th, 2017, will be divided into following categories:
1) Users who are in profit and with less than 33.3% revenue share
2) Users with 33,3% revenue share and in profit
3) Users with less than 33.3% revenue share or not yet in profit
Each group will be assigned a certain % of the waste quota decrease to balance the current waste capacity and operate smoothly during the recovery period, expected till June, 2017."
People already lost a part of their investments... just like that. The end is near.
The end already happened when people started reporting withdrawal problems several weeks ago. Everything Recyclix has done since then has been about playing the game out. Look at the carnage on their facebook page, everybody is fucked. But one pertinent point, in amongst the howls of protest, mentions the fact that users all 'agreed to be exposed to the risk' of loss: |
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Thought I'd ask Akamai for their opinion on the matter: |
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I've added this to BTC-E's threads to see if we can't get a response from them. Deal with this properly! Do not ignore. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1739698.0All you have done so far is to accuse the people who are trying to get you to resolve this of being scammers - You have done nothing to prove that Steven009 is not who he says he is, instead you have closed the ticket without resolving it. You appear to be the guilty party so far and I would caution everybody against using this exchange unless and until this account recovery ticket is properly dealt with. If you think Steven is a crook then prove he is not who he says he is, the person named as the owner of the locked account that he has been trying to recover access to for OVER A YEAR. It is utterly absurd that this matter is still unresolved either way. |
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Today in Yaqub-land we have this sudden reappearance after having recently torched his Facebook post history: Shortly followed by this, painfully-obvious-attempt-to-pretend-like-he-isn't-intentionally-showing-it, image of a Bitcoin ATM in the background of this otherwise pointless selfie. Seems like his plan to ensure easy access to cashing out, for example, millions of dollars-worth of bitcoin one might have conned out of people through fraudulent misrepresentation, is going ahead. |
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Jawad Yaqub is mad at me and says he is going to try to find me.
"If you'd like to clear yourself, then provide us with your full name and address."
He does appear to be obsessed with knowing the names and addresses of people who are exposing his lies. Because it's our fault, right? All this business about collecting millions of dollars through false pretences and fraudulent misrepresentation wouldn't have troubled anybody if we all had just let him get on with it. The people who are reporting on the truth of the situation are his enemies. How ironic, given Yaqub's professed disdain for Trump, that he exhibits many of the same personality disorder behavioural characteristics. |
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