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461  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ‘Merciful’ Church Forgives HIV-Infected Catholic Priest Who Raped 30 Children on: May 08, 2017, 08:44:27 PM
The Bible prescribes the death penalty for the following activities, among others:

    Murder
    Adultery
    Bestiality
    Rape of a virgin

Source: Deuteronomy 22:22-27


Fuck bible.

We live in 2017, not medieval ages and you are still talking about death penalty, as expected from a bible following barbarian.

You don't kill criminals, you throw them into jail forever till they are dead. That's how you handle them. No electric chair, no drugs, no hanging... Jail. We are not an African tribe, lighten up.

Bible written by Humans, it made sense for its time but not now. Time has changed. Bible is outdated. (the others also) We have internet now, you can find any information you want. Update yourself to our age or die as a bigot.

Do you realize you sound just like an average Muslim btw?

Fuck bible? Fuck you.

This is your liberal left world with Catholic Church being one of its many victims, that we live in. Not mine. People of the Book regardless if they call themselves Christians, Muslims or Jews will restore natural order. You, "progressive" cultists are already dying out all over the world. You claim to worship "human rights" but in practice you worship death.



Restoration of capital punishment is not in order, because people should enjoy it. It is in order, because it works. Because all men are equal in birth and death with none standing above God. Your broken moral compass grants more rights to criminals and pathologically insane, than to their victims. Secular progressives at work in United Kingdom:



462  Economy / Exchanges / Re: POLONIEX - NO WITHDRAWALS, TAKE CARE on: May 08, 2017, 08:19:47 PM
People are waiting since 3 days for their Bitcoins.

My own withdrawal is "Avaiting Approval" since 17 hrs, NEVER EVER HAPPENED BEFORE and I have big acount history.
Mods in the shoutbox saying that it take up to 24 hrs, but there are many people claiming they wait longer.


ANYONE getting a bigger withdrawal through the last 24hrs?

Any official info from Poloniex since your post? I am interested where this goes. Alas Poloniex is as of yet still minor exchange that cant move the price too much in either direction.

Wish you all the best, keep us informed.
463  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How do you feel about the death penalty? on: May 08, 2017, 07:57:36 PM
I highly doubt that liberals will ever die out. I'm all for it to distinguish where liberalism, and where permissiveness. We have reached the point that when North Korea threatens the us, many Americans are afraid to fight. We constantly hear calls to solve peacefully the problem.

You know word "liberal" has quite different meaning from 100 years ago  Wink by our current standarts the liberals of old would be conservatives today, while liberals of today would be called bolsheviks by liberals of old. So, you are completely correct, drive for innovation and change will not die out as it is inherent part of human nature.

Secular cultists, who see themselves above laws of nature will die out, however. Narcissism cannot defeat God and social engineering cannot defeat Nature.

What we call "liberalism" in 21st century is not future, it is graveyard headstone to evolutionary dead end. Fertility rates are just reflection of that.





464  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Trump Wall on: May 08, 2017, 07:52:29 PM
The wall idea in 2016 sounds too far fetched and ridiculous, the amount of work and resources to build it and then maintain would be too much to afford. It actually makes it look like a clown, I wonder if he could've kinda implement a new technology to keep the border safe, drones, night sensors, etc, even if it bullshit and never work at least the public would be interested on it.

Doesn't sound too ridiculous to me. The wall is expected to cost somewhere between $10 billion and $30 billion. But the benefits will be more than that in a single year. And in the long term, the wall can make a profit of trillions.
Do you really think so? As the wall can make money? Even the great wall of China which is dismantled for Souvenirs does not make that much money. Who can stop a wall? Trump will never build a wall. If he starts building it will be a monument to his idiocy.

You lack perspective with all due respect.

In the short term, massive building project like that will create and support hundreds of thousands of jobs. In the long term it will likewise regulate flow of goods, people and money over the border cutting down room for criminals and smugglers. This is precisely why generation after generation of Chinese kept building and upkeeping their wall.

Souvenirs are irrelevant in bigger picture.
465  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How do you feel about the death penalty? on: May 08, 2017, 07:44:01 PM
I don't support the death penalty because it is not nearly humane at all.

It isn't humane for a criminal to harm or murder other people. Why should the criminal live after the people he has murdered have died? Execute him. But, be humane in the way he dies. Make it fast and for sure. Use the guillotine.

Cool
Why the offender who tortured his victim before death should be easily executed? It seems to me that the offender should know that he will incur an appropriate penalty. A quick death is too easy for such criminals.

These people should be sent to labor camps and penal colonies to spend the rest of their lives, and any wages from their labor must be distributed among the victims. But we can only dream about such a system, as the human rights activists will immediately side with the criminals.
Human rights activists are criminals as they are. It seems to me that the whole reason that people don't require their governments to increasing the punishment for murder. Now, there were elections in USA,France soon elections will be in Germany and where are the requirements? We are to blame for the fact that this is not happening.

Guys, agree with both of you.

However, hope is not lost. Human rights activists these days (unless we take Saudi Arabia presiding "women rights" at UN as such) are dying breed. I think it is not coincidence, that people going against laws of nature are in turn discriminated against. Not by another men, mind you. By their choice and evolution itself.

In several generation these liberal cultists will die out of their own accord, unless they see the mistake in their ways. Like degenerated Romans did before them.

466  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ‘Merciful’ Church Forgives HIV-Infected Catholic Priest Who Raped 30 Children on: May 08, 2017, 07:10:02 PM
Is this even real? If yes... disgusting monster priest and an even more disgusting Vatican. I've only heard cases like this spoken in hushed tones but they really outdid themselves here. And what is the Mexican government doing? Rape is still a criminal offense.

Yes, its absolutely appalling. We all knew, that Mexico is struggling with systematic corruption, but the fact that its leading institution on matters of morals and faith is no better than liberal cultists elsewhere in the world speaks volume on how much it regressed. Not only does Catholic Church ignore laws of host country, it also explicitly goes against holy gospel it swore to upkeep and protect. Shameful.

Only bright side I can see in all of this is, that more people will learn about the incident and hold both "priest" and church of golden bullion accountable. No man or institution shall stand above laws of nature.

467  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Would killing the minimum wage help? on: May 08, 2017, 06:51:46 PM
Republican Presidential candidate Michele Bachmann quoted "Literally, if we took away the minimum wage-if conceivably it was gone-we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level."

We hear about and see in our own personal lives where people who once high paying and respectable jobs are now working in at fast food restaurants and retail clothing stores.

I do like having a minimum wage, since it helps protect the lower income class. However, considering how the economy is now and seeing many jobs being offered offshore, removing the min. wage law may actually help keep jobs within the states.

And wasn't one of the top causes of The Great Depression had to do with Herbert Hoover keeping wages from decreasing which ultimately lead to extremely high unemployment rate?

What are your thoughts on this?

Minimum wage in globalized environment keeps atleast some of the GDP in countries used as source of cheap labor. Would its abolishment in States lead to elimination of unemployment? It is very likely.

However, side effects cannot be underestimated. Before such decision, government should conduct studies on impacts.
468  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ‘Merciful’ Church Forgives HIV-Infected Catholic Priest Who Raped 30 Children on: May 08, 2017, 06:13:05 PM
That's why countries like Mexico will never become a developed country. There is no law, there is no reasoning. They don't have the balls to punish  that freak because the whole country is being swarmed by those freaks. Just like in the middle east. This also proves that Islam or Christianity doesn't matter; all religions are cancer.

A pervert pope can exist every once in a while but if your justice system can't punish him, then it means that your country sucks. Big time. Pack and leave.

Unlike militant atheism best represent by Nazi Germany and Soviet Union, yes?

You take for granted living in developed country that was build from the ground by evangelicals. Not some secular cultists.

The problem is not with Christianity, but within structures of corporate Catholic Church, that distanced itself immensely from teachings of the Book. Celibacy of the priests being direct result of clergys fear about retention of their estates.

Bible has no kind words on pedophiles or pardoning punishment on such godless freaks. The only people, according to Bible, who have authority to forgive said criminal are his victims and their families. In any other scenario, punishment including the capital one is on the table.

The Bible prescribes the death penalty for the following activities, among others:

    Murder
    Adultery
    Bestiality
    Rape of a virgin

Source: Deuteronomy 22:22-27
    
EDIT: By the way, I am interested on what were you thinking with that "pack up and leave" comment. Secular liberals are doing their "job" all over the west these days.

469  Economy / Speculation / Re: Nights Watch by Afrikoin on: May 08, 2017, 06:05:54 PM
Afrikoin,

so, hypothetically, what top are we looking at in parabolic scenario? Even MasterLuc doesnt expect attack on 10k before late 2018 (and probadly much later). 2-3 000 USD per BTC in summer?

I know, you find it unlikely, so I am mostly asking for it being possible from technical analysis perspective and EW count.
470  Other / Archival / Re: I'm really leaving the U.S. for a 3rd world country because of politics on: May 08, 2017, 06:01:36 PM
Congrats! America will be a better place to live without brain-dead liberals like you. Also, you must renounce the American citizenship as soon as possible, else you have to pay income tax on your earnings in Philippines.

Renouncing the American citizenship is a very simple and straight-forward process. But gaining one can take as much as 15 or 20 years. These guys will understand the value of their American passports, once they renounce them.

Exactly.

And where is OP? Does the "new life" in Philliphines utopia work out for him? Did he get a cold feet just before revoking his citizenship?

Questions, questions...

As a side note, contaginous diseases should play only very small part in decision of adult man to emigrate or not. As should momental result of elections.

If you emigrate only and solely, because you disagree with some part of ongoing trend in politics - you will never stop running.
471  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gay "Recruitment" on: May 07, 2017, 04:12:20 PM
Never ceases to amaze Russian. Who you trying to fool? "Russian system is more just, than the western one at this point." You probably forgot that Russia is a dictatorship! You even Patriarch Kirill, a former KGB officer. Your attitude towards gays a little better than in Muslim countries.

I am not Russian, you liberal heathen. I am just a man, who respects natural order.

Legislating quotas on your new favourite minority is just poor disguise for discrimination and broken moral compass.

You lack humility and common sense that comes with it.

What's next? There's a terrorist organization with the sole purpose of turning humanity gay? A homontern? Oh yes, they probably control the economy and their scientists are looking for ways to turn the human population homosexual, no? Maybe they're the real guys (or rather, gays) behind "chemtrails"?

The only countries that should be worrying about having a significant number of gays in their population are those that are in demographic decline and I don't think USA, Uganda, or Russia are running out of people anytime soon. Besides, if they are, they can just give incentives for (straight) people to bang more without condoms so they can have more screaming spawn.

I've seen videos of gays being hunted like deer in Russia. I can hardly call that just.

So? Ive seen video where liberals advocated euthanasia and pedophilia. Does that mean entire West fell to the cult of Death? Of course, not. It is just you and your little bigoted mind, that somehow got the idea, that you know better than elected government or God Himself.

Violence towards minorities is not supported by state in Russia, but neither is pandering to foreign funded organizations, who claim to protect their interests. Belonging to minority doesnt make you any better person, than you already are. What you may have witnessed on some unsourced video was work of individual criminals, that will be held accountable by local justice department.

Is it that difficult to understand?
472  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gay "Recruitment" on: May 06, 2017, 11:35:21 PM
Recruiting an individual for public service based on his sexual orientation or skin color is just as bad as denying the same individuals right to apply. Both is excuse for systematic discrimination.

To my knowledge Russian Federation isnt "banning" anything but public propagation of homosexualism, since such organizations in the west are financed by globalists like George Soros. Public service over there respects "dont ask, dont tell" policy, that includes religion and political stances aswell.

Id say, Russian system is more just, than the western one at this point.
473  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Health and Religion on: May 06, 2017, 10:08:17 PM
Coincube,

thank you for more information on the subject. I find it rather amusing that agenda of secular liberals in democratic party is and has been for past two decades increasingly dependant upon votes of immigrants, who are very socially conservative. Regardless, if we are talking about catholic hispanics or predominantly muslim middle easterners. The moment these newcomers fully integrate into american society will be the moment they abandon party (unless it cleans itself of marxism), that let them in as it stands in almost direct opposition to their belifs and interests on most social issues.

As cosmopolitan atheists struggle to find answer to this affront, answer might be quite mundane. Natural selection favours people of the Book, who stick to moral compass it provides. People of God.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/how-the-faithful-voted-a-preliminary-2016-analysis/
474  Economy / Speculation / Re: YORK's price prediction topic. on: May 06, 2017, 06:42:06 PM
It's extremely annoying when people quote the entire screenshot while you can just snip it. It clutters the thread unnecessarily.

Regarding the cup pattern ~ eventually, all time high peaks will turn out to be the new bottoms. Current situation is no exception.

In this case I do expect a correction to happen in the coming weeks. My guess is a bottom of around $1200 where it will then slowly move up towards the current levels.

The price can't go up continuously in current tempo. Especially when you consider that panic buying has been a massive trigger in the last days. I prefer a calm market for now.

Price indeed could continue to go parabolic for some time, but it would detrimental to both duration and eventual top of this bull trend.

Both retest of 1200 and/or staying at current price level for week+ would build confidence. You are spot on, man.
475  Economy / Speculation / Re: Nights Watch by Afrikoin on: May 06, 2017, 06:36:24 PM
Afrikoin so if I understand you correct you are expecting a final wave 5 now?

How high?

After the wave 5?

welll, looking around, almost all elliott wave charts i have seen agree we are in a wave 5.

what we seem to diasgree on is the shape of this wave 5

and the count from the $198 bottom from back in 2015 august


Generally, a wave 5 is final

Looking around at forecasts, besides EW forecasts, $1800-$2000 is a reasonable target.

What happens after a final wave 5 is a correction down.

The target of this correction depends on the count.

So for example, After the 5 – wave pattern finishes completes, the entire move will correct back to any where between wave 2 peak of wave 1 of lower degree and wave 4.

if the count is an ending diagonal wave 5, the correction is back to the beginning of the pattern.

Now, i could be wrong. And i dont want to be slated for speaking too soon. But hey, what the heck?


See this chart as an example





Afrikoin,

dont you think that Chinese paint all of this in different picture? Less than two days ago, they for brief moment broke the old all time high reflecting how they were lagging behind for the past weeks. Is it possible, that indeed we are only standing at the base of the mountain? According to stats, OkCoin and BtcChina have wave 5 and parabolic growth ahead of them.
476  Economy / Speculation / Re: YORK's price prediction topic. on: May 06, 2017, 05:45:29 PM
York

I am ready to get in the game, but when will be a good time to make my first purchase?

BTC's price is still in the channel like I posted yesterday like I predicted.
Wait for a clear breakout to confirm a good entry on short term.
Long term is a big buy right now.

It seems like you want a to get in ASAP, so watch the channel I made :

UPDATE :



Looks like BTC will have a bullish break upwards to me.
But let the channel confirm this first to be sure  Smiley

Happy trading all.


Hi York, bullish break means the price will stall? Or their will be a selling that gonna made that will cost the price of bitcoin to fall a bit? If their is a fall of the price then its probably the best time to buy again. But what do you think will be the price if ever they fall to a certain level?  > or < $1000?

No, bullish means we break from current triangle above. Either retesting last ATH or breaking through with next stop at 2000.

Breaking down would probadly result in retest of 1150-1200 level. Sub 1000 is extremely unlikely anytime soon as we are in upwards moving channel and havent seen any high volume correction, that would question it.
477  Economy / Speculation / Re: Nights Watch by Afrikoin on: May 06, 2017, 05:38:39 PM
Could you please explain what does your abc pattern correct? Both your a and you c have made significant ATHs...

Here's how a bear market really looks like https://ibb.co/fD5Rak

Where in the past year did Afrikoin said that we will enter bear market in near future?  Shocked

To my knowledge, he was one of the first people, that rallied around Masterluc, when he pointed out the start of next bull run. Therefore, the only point of contention are corrections and durations of them. For the sake of time scale and predicting the eventual top (9000+ for Masterluc). What the fuck do you or Tedebare have with bear market all the time? Not everybody decided that HODLING is optimal trading strategy.


If it works for you, fine, more power to you. Advocating HODLING (as can be seen on your bit-simulator track record) however isnt purpose of this thread.



478  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Health and Religion on: May 06, 2017, 03:44:21 PM
Time already tells,

we have reached high mark of secularization and witness tide turning back.

Kaufmann addressed all those points of National Geographic article and more  Smiley

"As Arthur Brooks of Syracuse University recently wrote in the Wall Street Journal, “if you picked 100 unrelated politically liberal adults at random, you would find that they had, between them, 147 children. If you picked 100 conservatives, you would find 208 kids. That’s a ‘fertility gap’ of 41 per cent. Given that about 80 per cent of people with an identifiable party preference grow up to vote the same way as their parents, this gap translates into lots more little Republicans than little Democrats to vote in future elections."

Yes, from secular point of view you can argue, that non-believers can through apostacy of believers postpone their demographic demise by cannibalizing existing denominations. As has happened in eastern Europe during communism. But you wont solve fundamental problem of self replacement through fertility and you also lack any sort of fail safe (if we discount state terror) to stop returning individuals to their respective faiths.

Time will tell if we became extinct or not, we have to have faith that the people on the planet will overpass his diferences and work together for the species.

Did I just catch you writing about "faith"?  Wink
479  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Health and Religion on: May 06, 2017, 03:20:27 PM
Alright.

We can use statistics, we can use socio-economic studies, we can even ask people on the street. Stats, you can pick ANY developed region or country in the world and compare. I can guarantee you, that there isnt developed place where atheists would be atleast able to replace their own population (2.1 children per woman), fertility differences within groups of same socio-economic standing largely reflects how much individuals of said groups rely on faith and moral compass that comes with it. Nominal income or race cannnot explain difference in the rates of reproduction.

Your description of evolutionary process is correct. Stronger thrive and pass on genetic information, while the weak remove themselves from the gene pool. It can and is aswell used to evaluate cultures, private bussiness and ideologies.

What if absense of faith is a sign of weakness putting its adherents at vast disadvantage?

Mr. Kaufmann, author of the article is professor of politology at University of London. Hardly someone we could call religious fundamentalist.

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/breedingforgod

480  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Health and Religion on: May 06, 2017, 02:24:51 PM
Thank you Stats,

for timely and cultivated response. And rest assured, that I indeed do not seek to "make you believe", if you understand why protestants fought for freedom of conscience, then you know similar actions would be tantamount to heresy, depriving you the free will we were all born with.

First, let me address the Crusades. Then after that I have a question for you, that I hope you will think about. Dont feel compelled to answer it, if you do not want to. Just think, thats all I will ask.

Crusades in Christianity, like Jihad in Islam had originally noble creed. For years pilgrims to Holy land aswell as locals of all faiths were victims of bandits, of rape and murder. Crusades were reaction, call to arms to all Gods children to restore dignity and faith into final resting place of Jesus Christ, of Moses, of all the great witnesses of the past. Yet at that time, western Christianity was firmly in the clutches of Catholic Church, which for the purpuse of power refused to separate matter and spirit (did you know that celibate was created only to prevent property of Church to be ransacked by offspring of clerics?). In essence, some of the crusaders become the very men they came to punish. As they turned from their faith to materialism and profit. Duke Bohemond going as far as leaving rest of the pilgrims while he and his men scaled walls of Antioch, carving new kingdom in the region overnight forgetting completely the purpose they were marching to Holy Land.

You can see the same mistakes happen over and over again, even in the "humanitarian" wars our compatriots wage today. Without keeping spiritualism and materialism apart, the latter consumes the first in the minds of Men of flesh and blood.

Reformation sought with some success to do this. To return to earlier, uncorrupted form of Faith. Most importantly sowing seed of both freedom of speech and separation of church and state as a way to limit corruption. Something we westerners today, take for granted.

Sidenote: Please, keep in mind, that Jews, Christians and Muslims do not talk about their gods Wink they are all people of the book and always refer to the one God. Even, if they may have vastly different practice and refer to Him by different names.

Now, for my question addressed to you.

Why, if atheism by its emphasis upon materialism is the answer, does natural selection discriminates against its adherents all over the world? It always did, as we can see on example of Greco-Roman world, its existence dependant upon tolerance of believers and apostacy. From reproduction point of view, atheism is recipe for extinction.
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