Poor Putin, feeble foolish dictator, always doing what evil NATO tells him to do, and failing miserably.

Or perhaps you're making shit up again.

If the wallet/explorer had the wrong address to begin with, and you're comparing it to another address from the explorer/wallet, then you obviously have a problem, don't you really see it? What if the other address is wrong too? Do you take three and conduct a vote?

You need to get the address from the original source. If it's an exchange/casino/etc - from the deposit page (some sites will also e-mail it to you as an additional precaution against clipboard malware - make sure to cross-check it on different devices), if it's for a purchase - from the checkout page (verify against QR if there is one), if it's from a person - use the original PM/e-mail/whichever way they communicated it to you, if it's some sort of public address like for a donation - get it from the official source, and so on.


That's how people get scammed, one is too lazy to provide the address, the other one is too lazy to verify it.

Not to mention this goes against best practices of not reusing addresses. If you generate a new address for every TX then you'd avoid the issue altogether. Unfortunately it seems that most custodial sites don't have that option.


None of it matters. Even if you insist on using your NON-WEB wallet (should never use an explorer or an online wallet or any other third party sites) to copy the address, you should still know that you didn't make the 0 transfer so why would you copy that address.

I would never remember which tx went to whom anyway, so if someone said "just use the same address as last time" I wouldn't be looking in my wallet, I'd be looking back to where that person gave me the address, and would ask to resend it if I can't find it. An alternative is to label addresses in the wallet if it has that feature, this might work too.

As I said in the other thread, I couldn't believe that many people would do this (copy-paste from explorer) predictably enough to get scammed, but apparently they do, and now you keep arguing that it's the only way. It really isn't.

I'm not implying anything, just making an observation on your OP and providing a quote that led me to said observation. If you think it's not acceptable to copy from past transactions and/or users should go to the actual destination to get the address - then perhaps you should state so in the OP.

Also you're saying "check addresses very carefully" and "check it fully" but what are you checking the address against? Presumably some known good/trusted source? So why not use that to begin with?

That's just one possible attack vector that will likely get patched out, and possibly even create false sense of security for some users who instead of being advised to change their behavior (like copying addresses from wrong sources) were told that big bad scammers could initiate transactions and now they can't anymore so all is good.

Not only do you fail to give proper advice (e.g. copy the address only from the actual destination, like an exchange you're sending money to) but you're making it sound that it is acceptable to just copy it from past transactions.


It's a horrible practice. Don't do that.


The user has to take multiple actions (fail to notice the difference in the address, copy/paste the wrong address, fill in the amount, click a button to send, possibly click some confirmation) to get scammed. It's like copying a random address from a spam e-mail and sending money to it. Makes no sense. People who fall for that would for just about anything, so what good does it do to confuse them with claims like "scammers can initiate transactions from your wallet"?

Anyway, it's obvious you think fearmongering is the way to go, so carry on. It's a shame as it would be likely be more effective to direct your effort to the root cause.

None of what you said has anything to do with scammers initiating transactions from your wallet. That simply doesn't happen if you keep your keys safe.

With this issue, users don't need to worry about scammers stealing their funds without their consent. They need to worry about voluntarily sending funds to a wrong address, regardless of whether they were targeted by a zero token transfer, a phishing e-mail, or any other distraction.


I don't see how fearmongering with a non-existent threat is helping here.

login2 happens when you click the "Login" button. I guess it redirects to index.php and throws the error, but at that point the login is completed and cookies should be good so I'll try to ignore that error and see if it can load any other pages afterwards. It just sucks having to code all these sketchy workarounds that will probably break the next time Cloudflare tweaks something.

You're diluting the issue by insisting that scammers somehow initiate transactions. They don't. Only someone who has the keys can do so. Shoddily coded wallets and/or explorers and/or token contracts don't change how the blockchain works. The issue is elsewhere - users blindly copying addresses from untrusted sources. Even if zero transfers are patched out of explorers/wallets/contracts/etc, scammers fill find other ways to take advantage of lazy users as long as they keep falling for stupid shit like that. For example by sending perfectly valid 1 sat (or whatever the dust unit is in shitcoins) transactions to the target's wallet.

Unfortunately I'm getting a 503 on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=login2;ccode=... which makes it impossible for the parser to log in. But at least it's something I can experiment with and see if tweaking some parameters would help.

Still, he's been like that way before Vod conflict if not forever. Peruse his trust feedback, both sent and received, and you'll see.

Biden - president of Russia, makes sense. No big deal if he doesn't speak Russian, gibberish in any language is still gibberish.

As if asking Og directly would yield an unbiased answer.


Not really, or not only that. Vod was never in the CM campaign. Og had issues with some CM signature users (myself included) from way before the conflict with Vod. IIRC he had a relatively recent run-in with LoyceV for reasons unrelated to the conflict with Vod. Et cetera.

He has a grudge against some people in the campaign and seems to be trying these chickenshit indirect attacks to discredit them.

Tone down the alarmist BS. No one is initiating a TX from your address. Poorly-implemented explorers/wallets incorrectly show interactions with poorly-implemented token contracts. These 0s should never been visible in the transaction history of the address that didn't sign the token transfer.

Reason #145905 to stop shitcoining.

True, I can't scrape anything - getting 503 errors.


I have a prototype of a parser that works entirely via Playwright/Firefox and even solves captchas but it'd be quite absurd to use it. Not only because it needs an ungodly amount of RAM to work, but also because it looks like we're going against the policy (unwritten as it may be) of Cloudflare and/or Bitcointalk. This needs to be solved properly, i.e. by implementing some sort of whitelist/key/whatever. Not by trying to hack the damn thing.

Edit: my other parser that I use for plagiarism checks is still running albeit intermittently, not sure what the difference is that makes this one kinda sorta work.

That's the lesson. Homero was aiming too low. Steal $10 million and you'll get locked up for a few months. Steal billions and you won't.

Also helps if you're in Bahamas.

Niners... damn, that's borderline elder abuse.



Ok, I know he can throw three touchdowns in 5 minutes, etc etc.

Edit: now needs 4 TDs LOL

Yeah I was kinda worried that playing Chase against Burrow might backfire if he decides to start passing to someone else but no, they still like each other

Edit: I'm just reading now what happened to Higgins and it's all a bit sketchy... he should have been "out", the team knew he wasn't gonna play. Kinda screwed up Hueristic's game.

Titans defense though... ewww.

Will that happen before or after the ban on promoting illegal gambling?

Feel free to wait until someone quotes this post so that you can double quote.

Did you really just found out today that Finland and Sweden are not NATO members yet and you absolutely had to say this on the internets?

And how many accounts do you need to post this illiterate gibberish from? I count at least 3 in the last couple of pages of P&S:

325btc, Fullbear2222, Portocervo777

I know you had more in the past.

@wheelz1200 you need to get your team set up for the game... I need your win