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1461  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 18, 2022, 11:11:40 AM
... Prince Philip in Yugoslavia ...

This is getting serious. I bet Queen of Narnia will announce something very bitcoiny any time now.
1462  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: March 18, 2022, 02:20:06 AM
Lol, at least Rodgers got his money, his contract is signed.  Cheesy

There's a rumor that Adams chose to go elsewhere even though Packers were offering the same money. Kinda interesting reflection on Rodgers if this is true. #1 WR doesn't want to play with a $50m QB Shocked
1463  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 18, 2022, 01:43:11 AM
Facts are facts, hard to argue against them, can't expect anyone to believe mass media over UN. There's a much higher online presence and cell phone penetration in 2022 Ukraine than in any previous conflicts, so if anything UN numbers would be the most accurate for this war in comparison to any other conflict.

You seem to be confused. UN doesn't base their info on instagram posts so their counts will be trailing until they get it confirmed according to their standards. Media outlets report as they get the info but they take reasonable steps to verify it, at least the ones I'm reading do. They're unlikely to be off by 80 percent or whatever you're suggesting, just reporting earlier than officially confirmed numbers, as can be seen looking at e.g. numbers from the first week of the war.

Comparing apples to apples, (so far) the numbers just don't support the narrative of trigger happy blood thirsty Russian army going out of their way to kill civilians over their primary objective. Numbers indicate that they're Just getting smoked from every window of every building.

As if this "ratio" that you're clinging to means anything. Both can be happening at once - Russian soldiers are killing civilians, AND are getting killed themselves.

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-17-22/h_50c6d854024131e7fcb716d51fa4b8e2

This is from UA spokesperson. Was really hoping to see over 2000+ cars today, I guess logic being Russia didn't shoot at 2000 cars yesterday, doesn't shoot at 800 cars today but would totally shoot if all civilians were allowed to evacuate at once? How many do you think they'll allow to leave besieged city without food tomorrow, and how many they'll decide to keep in the city out of concern for their safety so people wont get shelled by the Russian side?

Wish Red Cross would provide some data, but nevertheless that's very interesting way of reporting, 800 cars left Mariupol, 2000 people made it through Russian-occupied territory to UA side.  That's 2.5person/car. Either cars leaving besieged city half empty, cars are grabbing coffee taking their time and still driving through Russian side or ...

I don't even know what you're arguing about anymore. Can you pop down to Mariupol and let us know if there is a nice empty unobstructed 12-lane freeway that fits 300 thousand people all at once and if the nazis or zombies or Klingons are messing with it somehow. Maybe you'll find the elusive Mariupol subway too - to debunk the theater bomb shelter conspiracy. Check out Berdyansk on the way and let us know why the humanitarian aid trucks and evacuation buses can't make it to Mariupol.
1464  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 17, 2022, 09:28:54 PM
Once again you're just throwing articles instead of clearly stating your position. ICRC confirms that they have team in Mariupol, and that they lead the convoy out of the city Is there any proof from the Red Cross where they record violations or any shelling/attacks on said convoy, and in your typical fashion instead of addressing the question, you just pose another rhetorical question if Red Cross can fight off Russia and enforce corridors?

Tone complaint, really? You asked for reasons, I gave you reasons, not really my problem that it doesn't meet some arbitrary criteria that you made up or wasn't presented "correctly". You didn't substantiate your own position in any way, other than"nazis could've done it".

I can see you clearly evading, so now on to the next part, care to estimate how many of those leaving Mariupol decided to evacuate to Russian controlled territory?

All territory around Mariupol is controlled by Russians. That's the main issue. Cities that have Ukrainian-controlled access are being evacuated much more successfully. So whatever straw man you're cooking with that, just save your time and drop it.

But the reality is, UA side claims 14.000 killed RU troops and UN puts civilian casualties at 726.

Plus 2400 dead in Mariupol and more yet uncounted under rubble. Doesn't fit your narrative though, does it. Even though the UN itself says the number could be "considerably higher".

no one who's even partially objective can seriously entertain the idea of Russians trying to harm as many civilians as they can.

No one who's seeing destroyed houses, hospitals, schools, etc could imagine Putin having restraint about civilian casualties but here you are. The relatively low numbers (outside of Mariupol) are more likely related to civilians sheltering and evacuating rather than Russian army having any qualms about killing them.

Another "article" that you'll claim proves Putin is the greatest humanitarian: https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-troops-open-fire-bread-line-killing-10-reports-2022-3
1465  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 17, 2022, 04:20:23 AM
Why are you just alluding to things, but can't clearly state your position on why UA keeps calling off evacuations or only allowing few thousand cars per day out of Mariupol? You truly believe that its out of concern for those civilians safety, and that they're are better off without food in the city about to be attacked? Hope no one here is in this position, but if your relatives were there, what would you recommend to them? Stay in without food/water for the attack or try to leave under the red cross?

Here are many reasons: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60736845
And here: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/16/frightening-evacuees-describe-harrowing-escape-from-mariupol

How is that not enough for you? You still believe that UN, Red Cross, etc can fight Russians off and enforce the corridor? The city is surrounded. Your problem was that Ukrainians allegedly didn't let people out. Now some people are getting out but you're still blaming them that they can't get everyone out at once.

Edit: Like you I don't KNOW the answer and can only guess, but outright dismissing the idea that a neo-nazi group is capable of doing things that have been done for as long as there have been wars, and calling it absurd, seems dishonest at best.

No need to guess, there are sufficient confirmed reports of Russian forces bombing and shooting civilian targets, including evacuation vehicles. This also makes the "human shield" nonsense invalid, because it wouldn't shield anything.
1466  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 17, 2022, 03:08:52 AM
likely sold his NFT to himself.  It seems to be a popular way to say "I do not own this address".  You then buy stuff overseas with it, like a beach house in Haiti Dominican Republic.
edit: plus claim loss on taxes ?  So evade taxes AND fraud taxman ?  wow thats savage

I think he legitimately listed it in a marketplace and there was a separate TX that bought it (don't take my word for it, I know jack shit about NFTs) so if that's the case, the attempt to sell to himself would be extremely risky - there would have been a risk that someone would snipe it even if he broadcast both TX at the same time.
1467  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 17, 2022, 02:45:18 AM
I see four possible answers
-It was Azov that blew it up (seems to be Russian argument)
-It was used by UA side to attack from, so its a fair target for RU.
-It was a RU mistake
-RU side just decided to risk its plane and use a bomb on civilians instead targeting nazi Azov (because Putin craves more innocent blood)

Still seeing ghosts even after overwhelming evidence of Putinists just bombing shit indiscriminately... or shooting civilians in cold blood. You're a true believer.

What concerns me is why 350.000 people are still not allowed to leave Mariupol!! Why people who seem to care so much about human casualties, are not outraged that 350.000 civilians are forced to stay in a besieged city with a humanitarian crisis? Is the concern for their safety still the official reason for calling off evacuations? But then how come 20,000 residents have left Mariupol in private cars so far? Why only letting few thousand go per day is fine but not all 350.000 in buses?

Again you have to ignore everything that's happened so far, the siege of Mariupol itself, the attacks of Russian forces on civilians and civilian objects (including those same cars leaving Mariupol), the humanitarian convoy held by Russian forces in Berdyansk, anything that doesn't fit your narrative, so that you could still claim that there is something else going on other than Putin exterminating the civilian population of Ukraine.

The whole "azov keeping people hostage" thing is absurd seeing how any other city that's not completely encircled by Russians is being evacuated, why are you still clinging to it.
1468  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2022, 07:58:44 PM
Holy F, people buying rocks with Crypto?

Of course not. They're buying a hash of a picture of a rock.

Your goofed to start with when you have over 444 Bitcoins in a hot wallet.

Wallet temperature has little to do with it either. A moron can screw up an offline transaction just the same.
1469  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 16, 2022, 07:56:40 PM
That wasn't the question. Why would someone cramp that many people in the middle of nowwhere. Any cellar in a house is saver, even the subway.
If have no idea if even a single person died there, if so it looks more like a sacrifice like Normandy .......

No, that's exactly the question that needs to be asked instead of your straw man bullshit. Why bomb a theater? Why bomb civilian housing for two weeks so they become homeless and have to shelter in other buildings, such as a theater? What about people who don't have a "cellar", open season on them?

Subway in Mariupol, yeah right Roll Eyes
1470  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2022, 07:41:17 PM

To be fair, this has little to do with NFTs, and more to do with people being fat-thumbed millennials. If you send 444 Bitcoins to someone when you intended to send 444 sats, you'd be just as fucked.
1471  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 16, 2022, 07:35:17 PM
In what way is a solitary building standing in the middle of a park saver than a private house?

So... Putin bombed it because it's not safe?
1472  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 16, 2022, 06:26:26 PM
https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-mariupol-city-council-claims-russia-destroys-crowded-theater-live-updates/a-61140204

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Video emerged of the Mariupol Drama Theater in the Ukrainian port city after it was flattened by a Russian bomb.

Hundreds of people were said to have been sheltering there at the time. Video from a recent local television station broadcast in Mariupol showed many people had sought shelter in the theater.

Quote
Russia's Ministry of Defense denied it had carried out a strike on the theater, Russian state-run Ria reported.

Give it an hour and it will turn out to have been an Azov base, once Putinists realize that they can no longer deny the attack.
1473  Other / Meta / Re: Ukraine and Russians should have a joint board on: March 16, 2022, 05:47:27 PM
You gotta keep in mind that most of the shit (at least outside of the Russian boards) is being stirred by one sockpuppeting hypertroll. Take that out and the discussion is pretty much contained within P&S, and the Meta/Reputation threads would fizzle out.
Gotcha, and I appreciate that input.  I'm thinking I might just un-ignore P&S for a couple of days just to see what people are writing about the Ukrainian invasion.  Are there a lot of Russian/Ukrainian members chiming in?

There are quite a few. There is also the usual chemtrails brigade but that's how the PSych ward works. At any rate, it's a place to discuss the war, and Meta/Reputation/etc isn't.
1474  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Finland on the way to NATO on: March 16, 2022, 01:18:36 PM
I couple of months ago I saw on Russian TV a map drawn by the Soviet military analyst to show how all Baltic countries can be invaded.

Was that the one where they took Gotland and disabled all of NATO's communications and satellites and whatnot?

There were similar EMP fantasies about Ukraine too. I don't know who's coming up with that shit but I wouldn't be too shocked if it turns out that there were trillions of rubles spent on some technology that never materialized, money ended up in oligarchs' pockets, and Putin was actually told that it definitely works.
1475  Economy / Reputation / Re: The many accounts of korner (Bitcoin SV) on: March 16, 2022, 01:11:03 PM
Woopsie...

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https://ninjastic.space/topic/4985868
1476  Other / Meta / Re: Ukraine and Russians should have a joint board on: March 16, 2022, 12:48:59 PM
I've been kinda-sorta inactive for the past two days, but just based on the threads you linked to I'd say no.  I get that it's an important topic and that there are a lot of Russians and Ukrainians here, but flooding Meta with threads about....whatever....is unwarranted.

You gotta keep in mind that most of the shit (at least outside of the Russian boards) is being stirred by one sockpuppeting hypertroll. Take that out and the discussion is pretty much contained within P&S, and the Meta/Reputation threads would fizzle out. And the war-related Economics/Speculation/Gambling/etc shitposting could be deleted on the grounds of being shitposting.

Not really happening because free speech apparently means "free shit where you eat". Pigtalk.org (actually probably unfair to pigs).
1477  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2022, 02:42:21 AM
No. Just market noise according to my models. It's cliche to say that there's nothing to see here, but sometimes a cliche is appropriate.

Perfect, that's exactly the type of sciences and maths we need in this situation. Thank you for your service.
1478  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2022, 02:17:20 AM
Did China unban Bitcoin?

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1479  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia capability to imvade lets see on: March 16, 2022, 12:46:08 AM
What is in question is if Russia can indeed occupy the all Ukraine.

Seems doubtful. There was this theory that they are "regrouping" around Kyiv and preparing for a large-scale attack but it looks like they're taking a good beating in the suburbs. And randomly shooting at unarmed civilians as shown above.

Putinists did have more success in the south but there are reports that they're pulling back towards Kherson, possibly to reinforce the people's republic bullshit there.

Doing their best to create a massive humanitarian catastrophe in Mariupol. That's about all they've shown to be capable of.
1480  Other / Meta / Re: Lock Russian section. on: March 15, 2022, 10:29:41 PM
For what it's worth, it's an inquiry about the forum and fits in the meta board.

It isn't and it doesn't.

Even if these were valid Meta topics, they should be locked after a short reply from admin, instead of allowing the shit to flow freely.

But hey, if we didn't have double standards here, we wouldn't have any standards at all.
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