Meanwhile on the other side of the country civilians are also being killed and Russian propaganda is working on new excuses: https://russian.rt.com/ussr/news/978134-mariupol-likvidaciya-dezertiryВС России ликвидировали 93 украинских дезертира, которые бежали из Мариуполя в гражданской одежде, заявил начальник Национального центра управления обороной России генерал-полковник Михаил Мизинцев. The Russian Armed Forces liquidated 93 Ukrainian deserters who fled from Mariupol in civilian clothes, said Colonel-General Mikhail Mizintsev, head of the Russian National Defense Control Center. Not sure if they had the supposed deserters in custody, i.e. they executed prisoners of war, or they just shot at civilians from a distance, but either case sounds like an admission of a war crime. |
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This is genocide, RIA doesn't even try to hide this fact any more.
Not sure if you're referring to this: https://ria.ru/20220403/ukraina-1781469605.html (Russian) but definitely worth a read in any case. While technically not an "official" government position - it describes what's going on in Bucha and other occupied areas. And the killings are just the beginning. Mass repressions, "reeducation", etc would follow. |
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It is just like the continuous pattern repetition on the post, people speaking of the issues in the Donbas, as if Putin could care at all about the actual people living in there and if they could, if ever given a honestly free choice - not like the "referendums" held, chose to join this or that country without any consequence.
Once Mariupol casualties are counted, it's likely that Putin will have killed more people in Donbas in a couple of months than there were conflict deaths during the prior 8 years.
Edit: looks like Putin's propaganda will need a new version of the Bucha massacre denial. NYT dug up Maxar satellite pictures that show dead people appearing on the streets weeks ago, during Russian occupation, and not - like Kremlin apologists were claiming here in this thread - after Russians ran away. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/04/world/europe/bucha-ukraine-bodies.html (paywall) |
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Anyway, the time does not converge, the Russian army left Bucha on March 30, the video of the mayor about the victory was recorded on March 31 (posted on the network on April 1, but he says in the video that "March 31 will go down in history, etc."). Here is a detailed analysis of this staged video, read the full material is quite extensive. Russian forces held the city for a month. There are mass graves. Were Ukrainians sneaking into the city, killing people, and burying them just to frame Russians? Those fakes were also laid out in detail on the bones. The main star of the story about the maternity hospital turned out to be beauty blogger Marianna Podgurskaya, who then gave an interview in which she told what exactly happened. She said "I'm not into politics" and her interview was heavily edited to make it sound like Azov was in the building, which it wasn't. The theater was blown up by the Azov militants, trying to stage a rather absurd Russian bombardment.
Nearly every building in Mariupol has been shelled or bombarded by Russian military. Witnesses confirm that this is going on every day for 7-8 hours. There is no need to stage anything. |
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Elon goes for TWTR. Didn't see that one coming.
I hope he puts it on a rocket and launches it to Mars, never to be seen again. |
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Here is a joyful statement by the mayor of Bucha on March 31 about the liberation of the city from "Russian occupiers". Not a word about the corpses on the streets and the atrocities of Russian soldiers, a complete victory. And two days later, those terrible photos appear. Something doesn't add up in this story, don't you think? It's a large city. Russians had left but surveying the damage takes time. One of the first reports of bodies on a street was posted within a day, not two days later: https://twitter.com/ViktoriiaUAH/status/1509985789404459011Not to mention a drone video of a roadside execution a few weeks ago and other evidence that aligns with what was found in the aftermath of the retreat. Both episodes turned out to be fakes.
Saying so doesn't make it so. high-quality montages like videos of Russian aircraft inflicting airstrikes on Paris and Berlin
Fucking hell... no one is claiming that this appeal-to-NATO video is a documentary. If that's your "proof" of fakes then you're either far dumber than I thought or your handlers think that we're all idiots. https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1502526143806726145 |
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AFAIK a big reason is that forum's SMF is heavily customized with various enhancements (trust/merit/security fixes/etc), which makes the upgrade unfeasible.
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That's too long. Russia would run out of juice long before that. You have to remember that the economy is one thing, but there's also fighting spirit, which Russians always had when defending, but rarely when attacking. Many people in Russia think it's not their war and as time goes by and life gets harder there's going to be more and more of them, until finally all who wanted to fight will be dead and the rest will rather migrate than die fighting abroad for nothing.
Or the tanking economy could push more people to sign up to fight because there is nothing else to do and it's the fault of the Ukrainians... There is no logic to things happening in Russia now. People get arrested for holding flowers. State media is bleating incessantly about bird flu biolabs of the big bad West. A sizeable part of the population genuinely believes that they are defending. 140 million people, there could be enough idiots to feed this war for a long time. Although the looting "armed forces" don't display much fighting spirit, that's true. |
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The Ukrainian army has retaken Tjernobyl, seven busses full of Russian soldiers from Tjernobyl have gone to hospitals in Belarus for radition checkup and treatment, apparently they dug foxholes in the red forest, one of the most contaminated places on earth.
How is this possible?! It's as if they had no idea about the tragedy of Chernobyl which was under their purview at the time the incident occurred. It's unbelievable. That's what happens when you have 20 years of brainwashing that anything "the West" says is a lie, including radiation I guess. Also the Russian soldiers (using this word very generously here; more like marauding gangs) aren't really the thinking/questioning type nor do they have a lot of choice in all fairness. They are told to dig, they dig. The general who told them to dig is far enough to not have to worry about the radiation. Just another variation of cannon fodder.
Another example of the glorious achievements of Putin's armed forces: https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-belarus-selling-looted-ukraine/31782856.htmlRussian soldiers returning or redeploying from Ukraine frequently try to sell looted goods to Belarusians in southern border districts, according to interviews with multiple residents.
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"They take the ‘trophies’ looted from Ukraine and offer to sell them to locals. Refrigerators, household appliances, tires, and whatever comes to hand" There are other reports of Russian soldiers shipping the loot from Belarus to their relatives in Russia. Some Russian colleagues ("I'm not interested in politics" types) I showed this to had a bit of a cringe. Dead people on the streets didn't affect them but this did. Go figure. |
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I gave you video of Zelensky advisor where he says they want Russia to attack them. But you don't watch videos, and
somehow my opinion is more important to you, than Zelensky's advisor.
Why is that? Do you think my opinion more important to Zelensky than his own advisor?
That's a really absurd misinterpretation of what Arestovich said. He was certain that Putin will inevitably start a full-scale war against Ukraine, based on Putin's actions over the prior decade or two. That doesn't mean he (or Zelensky, or the Ukrainian government) wanted it, let alone could somehow make Putin attack Ukraine. There is plenty of other proof now coming out of regions where Russian forces retreated. Burned bodies on roads etc. I don't know why you're trying to muddy the water here with Kremlin propaganda. Of course they'll deny it. War is war, but this is something else. |
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Criminal gangs formerly known as Russian military forces retreat while killing witnesses: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60967463Journalists entering a Ukrainian town which saw fierce fighting with Russian forces have found dead bodies of men in civilian clothes strewn on a street.
An AFP news agency reporter in Bucha, near Kyiv, counted at least 20 bodies. At least one man had his hands tied. Minimizing civilian casualties I guess. Could have killed 2000 but didn't. |
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could we actually get someone more ridiculous?
Someone mentioned Cancun Cruz... so the answer is yes. Keep in mind that a republican candidate can win only by luring trumplings to their side so they would have to do Trump's greatest hits - build the wall, disband NATO, nuke hurricanes, etc - and also add some stupid shit of their own. It's not like you can win over OAN viewers on boring crap like fiscal policy. It needs to be real pussy-grabbing stuff. |
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Idea is simple im looking for sponsors who will support my military we will invade countries where is good natural resources or something then all those sponsors can be share holders of profits of exports.
It's been done, and is pretty much the basis for the entire modern world. But if you're set on going ahead, Putin might be interested if you can get hold of him... all you'll need to do is to just tell him that your target country used to be part of Russia. Alaska has oil. |
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it is wrong to claim that this block pursues "clearly defensive" goals.
The quibbling of what is "defensive" aside, that's not what I said. I said the expansion since 1990s was clearly defensive, i.e. new countries were joining because they didn't want the repeat of pre/post WW2 annexations and puppetry from Russia. You know, the exact thing that's happening right now with Ukraine. None of these countries had reasons to start a war with Russia, nor would they have been able to drag NATO into starting a war with Russia. |
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If you are losing IQ points every 100 shit posts, does this not mean soon you should avoid reading your own posts too?!
Of course. Proofreading is for cowards anyway. Seriously now, I'm impressed by how some people have the time and willingness to clean up this mess voluntarily by reading and reporting every kind of shitpost. Congrats and thanks, but I find it masochistic.
Yep, that's me, S&M is literally in my name. |
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I am so scared to post because I've been told my posts lower IQ and it's literally true
Which brings up an interesting dilemma - should we avoid reading posts made by users with low IQs? I know I lose an IQ point every time I report 100 shitposts, I don't need any more brain damage. |
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Can this day please end already. I'm sick of having to flip my monitor every time ChartBuddy posts.
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It doesn't look like Ukrainians want to be "friendly" (aka Belarus) with Russia so yeah let's bomb them to rubble.
So once again, why USA invaded Grenada and Panama? They don't even share border, and are pretty miniscule compared to, lets say, Ukraine Not sure why you're bringing this up. I'm not a fan of US "peace and democracy" exports if that's your angle. That doesn't mean that small or large Eastern European countries - or any countries - should be just given to Putin. |
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I compared current situation with Cuba crisis, BUT Ukraine in NATO would put Russia in jeopardy against conventional attack too.
Unlike conventional attack from Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania, conventional attack from Ukraine would put Russia in situation where only defense
would be use of nukes
NATO nukes haven't moved closer to Russia in the last 30 years and there were no plans to do so. NATO expansion was quite clearly defensive and it would have remained so even if Ukraine joined NATO. Despite Putin's delusions, the West wants a stable prosperous Russia to trade with, not a shithole to fight with. If they wanted to attack it they'd have done it in mid-1990s. Putin was upset about NATO missile defense systems in Poland et al - do you realize how insane that is? "Don't you dare to defend against us should we decide to liberate you at some point". In case of neutral or friendly Ukraine, for conventional war vs NATO Russia only has to close Suwalki gap
Its 100km vs 2300km border to defend
It doesn't look like Ukrainians want to be "friendly" (aka Belarus) with Russia so yeah let's bomb them to rubble. |
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I created this script that answers the quiz automatically to protest against theymos' tirany
Great job. You'll be banned on prime time TV to make you into a martyr of this struggle. |
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