i think the price will stay 275-285 for few month...
NOPEHave you traded futures yet bja? Moves like today can make your mortgage payment for 6 months in 5 minutes.
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buy pressure seems to be abating. opened a small short with a tight stop.
8.5k to $280 on Finex, buy pressure deffo abating
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I've got to say, I'm impressed with the bids filling in on Polo, someone just added 30k xmr (50btc) at 0.00712. I really thought we were going to let this drop a bit more but it seems that nobody really wants to sell.
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Auction coins are on the move.
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Well someones feeling bullish again and has turned their 1 xmr/2 secs buy bot back on lol
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Traders seem to be programmed to sell every little spike atm. Too predictable!
Yeah but they're buying every little dip too! I'm trying my best to be bullish, which I am long term (ie I think 160 was the bottom) but just look at this. http://bfxdata.com/sentiment/longshort.phpNo way Mr Market Maker is gonna stand for that. If $160 was the bottom, then it would be foolish to sell. Just wait for price to drop and add to long position. That's what we all seem to be doing, which is why it's not dropping. Wouldn't call it foolish, if we continue on the current trend line there is plenty of room to go back to around $250 and make a fair few coins. I posted days ago that I thought we would go back to around $280 then drop off to around $260 before attacking $300. Most traders have $305ish as their next target but you know what happens when everyone's longed out waiting for it to get there. Your right its not dropping at the moment its consolidating with higher lows and lower highs since the spike to $294.
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Traders seem to be programmed to sell every little spike atm. Too predictable!
Yeah but they're buying every little dip too! I'm trying my best to be bullish, which I am long term (ie I think 160 was the bottom) but just look at this. http://bfxdata.com/sentiment/longshort.phpNo way Mr Market Maker is gonna stand for that.
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There are plenty for sale. 40btc worth under the previous high 24 hours after hitting it.
40 btc is plenty? I guess it depends on the scale you have in mind but I don't really consider that a deep market. That's just what's under yesterdays high already. No need to try and put words in my mouth. The idea put forward is that there are very little for sale. That's just not true, ~250 btc's worth to just over 0.002 . Incidentally that's the whole bid depth at the time of writing.
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I think those who wanted to take the profits of fast 60 % rise have sold more or less already. Soon might be time to do the thing with 0.002, hopefully for good and forever.
Thats the hope, gonna take a fair few btc to do it though. Risto is complaining there is very little Moneros for sale... At least you can find some coins now pretty close to the spot without too much slippage. For OTC traders this is like a wet dream come true: You can charge 20 % premium on Moneros and you get larger amounts even without a huge slippage. There are plenty for sale. 40btc worth under the previous high 24 hours after hitting it.
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There are about 4M$ new longs since the start of this rally (~240$ some 10 days ago), this means about 15k BTC will have to be sold if the rally ends, just to cover those longs.
And 50000 coins from the auction which will only settle on monday. I guess they were bought at a discount to the current price. Lets see how long this will be a discount so the short term outcome most likely is a dump? Anyway I doubt BTC will visit the lower levels from the start of the year. tbh... I don't know, but I would not be surprised of it. I am repeating myself, but there is another auction and the Gox liquidation which currently appear to happen this year. The Gox thing is not exactly an auction. It will be Gox giving back some of the customer's BTC/money. Considering that there is still no hint about how the owned amount will be calculated, I think anything that we are taking very late in this year you are right this is not an auction. But it will surely create supply. I know what I am going to do with the coins distributed to me... no matter how high the payout will be. Thats if there's any left at all. I'd hate to thing how much money has been spent on legal fees et al.
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I think those who wanted to take the profits of fast 60 % rise have sold more or less already. Soon might be time to do the thing with 0.002, hopefully for good and forever.
Thats the hope, gonna take a fair few btc to do it though.
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rpietila and his clients are certainly a buying (now) force in the xmr market, but why people like you keep suggesting he is the only one?
Because people follow him. He's like a market maker. ... Your trying to be a market maker that's why I proved you wrong. BTW guys, I was up 600% at the casino yesterday but bombed out at the end so no new XMR for me this week. Ah you again. So speculating anything is trying to make markets now. I'm not trying to be a market maker at all. I don't need to be when theres someone doing it for us. Must of missed the bit where you "proved me wrong" Guessing your talking about disagreeing about the legnth of time that constitutes short term which as I said is completely objective. Oh and if your talking about my predicition that we wouldn't break the short term high, you didnt prove me wrong my friend the market did. Just follow its easy. Close to 60% profits to anybody who bought at announcement and sold in the last 18 hours. Just look at the volume dropout for today. Someones stopped buying...
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rpietila and his clients are certainly a buying (now) force in the xmr market, but why people like you keep suggesting he is the only one?
Because people follow him. He's like a market maker. Ill break down exactly what Im SPECULATING is happening. LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR ALSO THAT THIS IS IN NO WAY A DIG AT RISTO, I LIKE HIM. He announces the price will now rise. Not a hard predicition to make when your going to start buying. Begins buying along with the other people who see announcement. Price rises and everyones frothing at the mouth about how great of a prediction it was adding credability to what he says. The hubris takes us up to around December high. He realises he's the only one really buying still. (at this point lots of people are selling for 60%+ profit). Then comes on here and announces Im bearish for such and such a reason to explain why the price then drops because hes stopped buying. Anouncing Im bearish also makes the people who blindly follow then sell, adding to the drop and again adding credibility to what he says. My point is its not hard to predict the market when your making the majority of buys and then letting it fall when you stop. Im not saying he's the only one at all but certainly the main one hence why now he's stopped buying it will go back down. I'd love to be proved wrong, please everyone buy it up lets break the December high without Ristos buying but in my opinion its not going to happen soon.
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So is this gonna end exactly the same as always. Risto stops buying and price drops like a stone....
Xmr is 50% above 1 month ago and about 10% above last week. Stone? When we dropped from the ~0.005 area was when he said we would never see below 0.004 again went up a bit above that realised that it was going down, stopped buying then ensued the drop 80% to our lows around 0.001 and below. By all means buy it up and prove me wrong. I'd quite like that... WHEN it falls like a stone then feel free to say so. Currently that is not the case. What I said was phrased as a question. Speculating on whether he stops buying now which I think he has and we drop like a stone again. Its called a speculation thread not a confirmation thread.
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So is this gonna end exactly the same as always. Risto stops buying and price drops like a stone....
Xmr is 50% above 1 month ago and about 10% above last week. Stone? And ~65% below where he stopped buying last time. When we dropped from the ~0.005 area was when he said we would never see below 0.004 again went up a bit above that realised that it was going down, stopped buying then ensued the drop ~80% to our lows around 0.001 and below. By all means buy it up and prove me wrong. I'd quite like that...
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So is this gonna end exactly the same as always. Risto stops buying and price drops like a stone....
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I predict a knee-jerk drop in price after the results of the auction based on the unfounded fear that the coins will be immediately dumped. It is during this drop that I will buy. Then in a week or two some piece of good news will lift the price over 300 settling back down to exactly where we are today. Go on..Quote me
No. Several reasons. Firstly you wont get results the best you will get is something like this. https://bitcoinmagazine.com/19512/us-marshals-auction-participant-price-not-significantly-market/People who didnt win saying what they think etc. That article tells you they didnt go for any less than $220. Secondly people who think that the coins would be dumped just don't understand the sort of people who are bidding. They are investment firms etc that have no interest in just dumping on the market for a few thousand $ profit, they are after liquidity for their ventures. The fact the coins come from the government is a big plus, they get a receipt for their coins from the US gov. How much more legit from a business perspective can you get? This coupled with that fact the auction process is long winded and difficult but trusted compared to wiring millions to an exchange of people you dont know in hong kong means they just aren't going to be dumped.
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Very interested in what will happen in the next couple of days. I still think we need to go down as I said in the trollbox yesterday but the fact that people are saying they want it to go down just means we're looking to buy and are in fact more likely to go up. It feels toppy but only because we're at the December high. If we push pass this in the next couple of days it could really rip upwards. Just can't decide whether to do it or not.
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