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561  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Publicly held Trump trials - ongoing on: December 07, 2023, 10:22:02 AM
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By the way, I have not fully understood the implications or full meaning of the Trump slogan "Make America Great Again". It seems to imply there was a period of time or an era when The United States was "great" or better than it is today.
I wonder what Trump means by it, what was the golden age he intends to take back the nation to? Is he talking about the 80's, the 90's ?
Because it would be a matter of personal opinion and perspective whether those years were actually the greatest for the USA or not, even among Republicans, many of them would disagree when they golden age which they want so much actually took place.

Leaving the USA aside, to me the best years were the early 2000-2010. Probably just because it was my childhood and all was just fun and games. Who knows.

Because there isn't anything behind the slogan! MAGA is whatever Trump decides is the flavour of the day, to the point that he may be telling people two different things in the same day like during covid.

Anyway the key items are immigration (trying to stop it even threating attacking Mexico and stuff...), international relations - extreme tariffs to imports; "stopping the war in Ukraine in 24 hours", Cozy with Ruzzia, China, North Korea, supporter of Israel, locally lowering taxes and the usual Republican economic agenda. On abortion and civil liberties, he has by now figured out that he will need a much softer approach if he wants to win elections (one day this, next day that).

All this is just a political programme - quite hyperbolic and probably not the right one for the US - but not really a problem. The problem is the already in preparation assault to institutions, putting a set of pre-screened high level civil servants that would not hesitate in breaking the law if asked to. The prep work is being done by "ONGs" that have "no relation to Trump" *wink *wink. That is the real problem, apart with giving wings to every undocumented idiot in the US that has "a theory".


You said it, "MAGA is whatever Trump decides is the flavour of the day..." . That's exactly what a President does and is supposed to do. Methods for[propaganda removed] change along with changing circumstances. The only reason why it might look like Trump "may be telling people two different things in the same day" is, circumstances change that fast at times. It's his duty to change with the circumstance so that he is Making America Great Again.

Attacking other countries doesn't necessarily have anything to do any kind of military threat. It can be done with proper international taxation. If Mexico or any other country won't play along, increase taxation on imports into the US. At the same time, decrease taxes on exports to that country. And change the taxation daily if necessary, based on the results.

Trump as President can change loads of taxation and regulation on internal, US companies, so that they have to change themselves just to survive. But the results will ultimately [propaganda removed]

Cool

Are you aware that economical strategy to bend the will of other countries and nations only work when those targeted countries have relatively tight commerce lines with the USA and her allies, right? Trump indeed tried to use that strategy against China and Mexico, one could have it worked good enough because they dependence of the Mexican and Chinese economy of the USA consumerism. But it is a move you cannot do against countries which rely their imports and exports on Russia/China/India and have null commercial exchange with the USA.
If the military options was never supposed to be effective, USA would have never used it through her history, in my opinion.

What concerns me is how ambiguous the MAGA slogan is, a Great country is quite a different vision, depending whom you ask.

Also, in one of lastest Trump's speeches he said he would not rest until all in America is able to afford a house a vehicle (electric or combustion). Of course, he could not care to give details on how he is planing to make the economy surge to auch levels where everyone can get all of it in less than 4 years...

I know that most people here will not get into the details of how stuff arrives at their tables, desks and workplaces, but trying to untangle nearly any supply chain in the US from Mexico, China and a few other countries in Asia is a nightmare. The populist approach of "we will make them play along" or "we will get a better deal" or "we will impose conditions on them" is based on the very stupid assumption that Trump's team is "just smarter".

As it is anything he says - until it comes the time to deliver. Then there comes the lies, the "deep state" not allow it, the fake information "employment is lower", we "care about minorities too",...

That is the problem when you set unrealistic expectations - you have then to work your way out of the mudpit.

Please, let's MUHA - "Make US Honest[/b] Again" and get rid of the cheap populist leader. There has to be something better to offer to the people than you know who.


Speaking of which, it is looking a lot like getting convicted - the topic of this.
562  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: December 06, 2023, 11:24:11 PM
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handing out subscriptions for free unlimited Russian gas

LOL behold geopolitical expert again trying to make it sound as if Kremlin never tried to bribe western politicians or even entire countries with petrodollars and cheap gas... still not able to connect the dots on why this brilliant strategy didn't work though.

You need to work on your reading comprehension skills. Thought it was obvious, no? West/US has exponentially more resources and a global reserve currency, that's why they engaged in financial expansionism. Russia is not even in the same weight category on the financial field. That kept going until "west" got to Ukraine which Russia drew a red line at, and demanded a written reply to their security demands from US, think we all can guess what US wrote in that response (can't wait until it's declassified), so Russia switched to military engagement. Then in the beginning Russia again tried to negotiate peace but then Boris Johnson said that WE MUST CONTINUE THE WAR, and here we are. But just because Russia cannot compete globally on the financial field, doesn't mean they can't do it selectively, which i think they're doing rather successfully in Hungary now. Instead of challenging the whole block which would be a financial suicide, Russia just needs to send cookies to the weakest link from the block with a veto power. Now west is forced to apply yet another double standard, pay for Ukrainian army, politicians, civil servants, retirement fund, support Ukrainian currency but at the same time try to justify why Russia and China cannot do even half of that because...reasons.

You are opening another topic, but let's play along. May I understand why in the world Ruzzia feels they are entitled to have any guarantees from anyone, particularly of the US? Was that "request" something like: "either you give me the guarantee I am seeking or I will start a war an spoil the welfare of half of the world". do you understand that it is quite difficult to threaten an economy ten times your size and an army 10 times yours?

Of course that is not going to be accepted. And if Ruzzia chooses the warpath, there shall be war.

Re all other whattabouts on China and Bulgaria are irrelevant to it. Bulgaria is going to lag behind since they will not be getting funds. If the government is elected again, it is well in the realm of possibility they will be invited to join Ruzzia and leave UE (good luck to all).



Agreements for spheres of influence are as old as time and happen all the time. The reason is simple and the same as why US demanded Soviet union not to open bases in Cuba and bring missiles there or US would put Cuba under a blockade. [...]

Unfortunately, no one really cares whether you feel that's acceptable to you or not.

As far as Bulgaria leaving EU, Russia is not strong enough on its own yet, so if that would to happen Bulgaria would be leaving EU for BRICS with funding from China. With the technological gap shrinking the global trend is turning back to resources, and it just happens that unlike in US there just aren't that many resources in EU. Seeing EU starting to break apart would not be a positive for the west.
[... pages of whatabout removed]

Unfortunately, no one really cares if you feel that was acceptable, as you can see by the fact that there is a war just before your nose.

Ruzzia is not the Soviet Union, is a much weaker leader of a federation. Obviously Ruzzia and other bits of the world have a disagreement on the "sphere of influence" that Ruzzia actually has.

If that lack of influence was doubtful, It has been confirmed to be very weak. Waging war Ruzzia can cause a lot of trouble to all including themselves, but that's it.

Mark Twain said "It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt”, so I would say "it is better to have the world doubting your power than start a war like this and confirm your irrelevance".


Have you seen the fireworks in Crimea? does that look to you like influence?
https://t.me/Crimeanwind/49640
563  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: December 06, 2023, 08:35:48 PM
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handing out subscriptions for free unlimited Russian gas

LOL behold geopolitical expert again trying to make it sound as if Kremlin never tried to bribe western politicians or even entire countries with petrodollars and cheap gas... still not able to connect the dots on why this brilliant strategy didn't work though.

You need to work on your reading comprehension skills. Thought it was obvious, no? West/US has exponentially more resources and a global reserve currency, that's why they engaged in financial expansionism. Russia is not even in the same weight category on the financial field. That kept going until "west" got to Ukraine which Russia drew a red line at, and demanded a written reply to their security demands from US, think we all can guess what US wrote in that response (can't wait until it's declassified), so Russia switched to military engagement. Then in the beginning Russia again tried to negotiate peace but then Boris Johnson said that WE MUST CONTINUE THE WAR, and here we are. But just because Russia cannot compete globally on the financial field, doesn't mean they can't do it selectively, which i think they're doing rather successfully in Hungary now. Instead of challenging the whole block which would be a financial suicide, Russia just needs to send cookies to the weakest link from the block with a veto power. Now west is forced to apply yet another double standard, pay for Ukrainian army, politicians, civil servants, retirement fund, support Ukrainian currency but at the same time try to justify why Russia and China cannot do even half of that because...reasons.

You are opening another topic, but let's play along. May I understand why in the world Ruzzia feels they are entitled to have any guarantees from anyone, particularly of the US? Was that "request" something like: "either you give me the guarantee I am seeking or I will start a war an spoil the welfare of half of the world". do you understand that it is quite difficult to threaten an economy ten times your size and an army 10 times yours?

Of course that is not going to be accepted. And if Ruzzia chooses the warpath, there shall be war.

Re all other whattabouts on China and Bulgaria are irrelevant to it. Bulgaria is going to lag behind since they will not be getting funds. If the government is elected again, it is well in the realm of possibility they will be invited to join Ruzzia and leave UE (good luck to all).

564  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: December 06, 2023, 05:00:25 PM
Your point was that Ruzzia was having plenty of income, I showed how it is having plenty of expenses caused by the war. The way the deficit is balanced as anywhere else is by cutting on social expenditure (LOL). There is no magic trick. Also, I guess you consider as ok to have Moscow airport closed for hours or even days due to drone risks and factories blown-up from time to time, ...
You are lying, the social part of the budget in Russia was not cut in 2022 and 2023, and at least for the next three years the Russian budget will remain socially oriented.

I’ll tell you more, the budget for next year in Russia is a development budget. Stop fantasizing, Western sanctions against Russia have failed, just like the Ukrainian counter-offensive. Find the courage to face reality.

Today Putin flew to Abu Dhabi and in his honor F16 fighters painted the Russian tricolor in the sky lol. Grin

Regarding the numbers you provide... well, you know... if you say so. In any case people joining Wagner which is NOT new and has been operating for at least a decade all over Africa speaks of the need of the poorer regions to make their living even if it risk being killed.
Your words only confirm your complete ignorance of the subject of the conversation. I'm talking about volunteers who enter into contracts with the Russian Ministry of Defense, not about Wagner.


Sure, I am lying *wink *wink, Russia has the miraculous ability of creating money out of the air so they can spend more in social, more in the war, more in whatever but at the same time balancing the budget (LOL again).

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As for the loss of manpower, it’s always unpleasant. But in 2023, for the first time in its history, Russia formed a mercenary contract army, to which at least 20 thousand people a month voluntarily join, and now Russia has a significant advantage in manpower over Ukraine, if we count the directly involved soldiers on the contact line.

You have clearly stated you spoke a private military force. It is definitely not the first time.

Now you speak of the Mod while calling me an ignorant on the matter. You should do a sense check of this thread. If you can call apples to a banana, but it is yellow and tastes of bannana - these people joining are regulars and it simply means that the "patriotism" is extinct, the convicts are diminishing and now it is time to offer the equivalent of 7000 sign-up bonus with 3 to 4000 a month for anyone crazy enough to sign-up to be what is in fact a regular.

20000 people a month you say. I really need to get proof of that - do not bother, you do not have it, you probably got that from TwitterX and Ruzzia does not publish the number of losses.

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In the case of geographically close countries in different weight categories, this works like gravity - you cannot just decide to choose a different source of influence, this will inevitably have consequences.

Well, it seems your theory is not 100% robust, unless you still call this a "Special Military whateverthef**k".

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Today Putin flew to Abu Dhabi and in his honor F16 fighters painted the Russian tricolor in the sky lol. Grin
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To match the level of relevance, my uncle is recovering very well from his knee surgery.

Branko, do you realize that if they send two more tanks your theory would be wrong? I mean, it is wrong, is just that is also in an state of unstable equilibrium.


Doesn't change the fact about first two batches

https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-send-leopard-tanks-ukraine-russia-war-rheinmetall/

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/germany-approves-sending-heavy-leopard-tanks-ukraine-2023-01-25/

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Branko, there is not any fact.
565  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: December 06, 2023, 01:22:05 PM
There are a number of polls that show that Ruzzians (not the "subjects" as Be calls anyone not Ruzzian) are actually tired and in favour of a peaceful solution. However these same people consider that it is not acceptable to give back any of the stolen Ukrainian land. Interesting how they understand the concept of peace.
It seems you are again wishful thinking. Why would Russians get tired?

Moscow’s monthly income from oil exports is greater now than before the invasion of Ukraine, highlighting the failure of measures to curb its war chest



A classic mistake, looking only at the income and not to the expenditure:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/blood-billions-cost-russias-war-ukraine-2023-08-23/

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The paper cited officials from the United States, which supports Ukraine, as saying as many as 120,000 Russian troops have been killed and 170,000 to 180,000 injured, with Ukraine's military toll at 70,000 killed and 100,000 to 120,000 wounded.

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Russia has doubled its 2023 defence spending target to more than $100 billion - a third of all public expenditure - a government document reviewed by Reuters showed, as the costs of the war in Ukraine spiral and place growing strain on Moscow's finances.

As Russia's military spending soars and sanctions squeeze its energy revenues, Moscow faces a battle to keep its budget deficit in check.

But regardless, not my thinking, but actual results of polls, to the extent you can believe in polls in Ruzzia.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/russians-support-for-peace-talks-with-ukraine-grows-after-unrest-poll-shows-1.1939760

From your own source of news Smiley


Lol, at the end of this year the budget deficit in Russia is about 1.5%. Against the backdrop of the huge problems with financing Ukraine that the United States and the European Union are experiencing right now, your attempts to convince me that it is Russia that is experiencing any financial difficulties look especially ridiculous.

As for the loss of manpower, it’s always unpleasant. But in 2023, for the first time in its history, Russia formed a mercenary contract army, to which at least 20 thousand people a month voluntarily join, and now Russia has a significant advantage in manpower over Ukraine, if we count the directly involved soldiers on the contact line.

Your point was that Ruzzia was having plenty of income, I showed how it is having plenty of expenses caused by the war. The way the deficit is balanced as anywhere else is by cutting on social expenditure (LOL). There is no magic trick. Also, I guess you consider as ok to have Moscow airport closed for hours or even days due to drone risks and factories blown-up from time to time, ...

Regarding the numbers you provide... well, you know... if you say so. In any case people joining Wagner which is NOT new and has been operating for at least a decade all over Africa speaks of the need of the poorer regions to make their living even if it risk being killed.

People often speak of "reality". Half of Ruzzia is being shielded from it. When it hits, it will it hard.
566  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: December 06, 2023, 10:19:12 AM
There are a number of polls that show that Ruzzians (not the "subjects" as Be calls anyone not Ruzzian) are actually tired and in favour of a peaceful solution. However these same people consider that it is not acceptable to give back any of the stolen Ukrainian land. Interesting how they understand the concept of peace.
It seems you are again wishful thinking. Why would Russians get tired?

Moscow’s monthly income from oil exports is greater now than before the invasion of Ukraine, highlighting the failure of measures to curb its war chest



A classic mistake, looking only at the income and not to the expenditure:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/blood-billions-cost-russias-war-ukraine-2023-08-23/

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The paper cited officials from the United States, which supports Ukraine, as saying as many as 120,000 Russian troops have been killed and 170,000 to 180,000 injured, with Ukraine's military toll at 70,000 killed and 100,000 to 120,000 wounded.

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Russia has doubled its 2023 defence spending target to more than $100 billion - a third of all public expenditure - a government document reviewed by Reuters showed, as the costs of the war in Ukraine spiral and place growing strain on Moscow's finances.

As Russia's military spending soars and sanctions squeeze its energy revenues, Moscow faces a battle to keep its budget deficit in check.

But regardless, not my thinking, but actual results of polls, to the extent you can believe in polls in Ruzzia.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/russians-support-for-peace-talks-with-ukraine-grows-after-unrest-poll-shows-1.1939760

From your own source of news Smiley

567  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: December 06, 2023, 09:14:13 AM
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handing out subscriptions for free unlimited Russian gas

LOL behold geopolitical expert again trying to make it sound as if Kremlin never tried to bribe western politicians or even entire countries with petrodollars and cheap gas... still not able to connect the dots on why this brilliant strategy didn't work though.

In fact the reason why Putin is still there is because he is being careful not to touch the pensioners and most of the inhabitants of the larger, more influential cities. So handouts out and in are the go-to tools.

There are a number of polls that show that Ruzzians (not the "subjects" as Be calls anyone not Ruzzian) are actually tired and in favour of a peaceful solution. However these same people consider that it is not acceptable to give back any of the stolen Ukrainian land. Interesting how they understand the concept of peace.

Also interesting why they decided to use an expensive aircraft in good condition to serve as a marine habitat near Snake Island. Must be Eastern culture thing.

Germany sent

14 Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine
88 Leopard 1 tanks to Ukraine

“14” - Words is a reference to the white supremacist slogan: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children”
“88” - is the NeoNazi numerical code for “Heil Hitler”

You have wrong, 14 is A (first letter) and 8 is (H) 8th letter for Aldolf Hitler. But where I come from, five year old know that.

Branko, do you realize that if they send two more tanks your theory would be wrong? I mean, it is wrong, is just that is also in an state of unstable equilibrium.
568  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: December 05, 2023, 10:28:15 AM
USA tried to replace Russian sphere of influence by destroying Russian one, employing nazis
to do that for them. So Russians battle it by fighting Nazis and protecting Russians

replacing a language is part of changing the spheres of influence

[...]

Why wouldn't the west sponsor neo-nazis to fight against Russia once again?

LOL you've been massively lied to about the purposes of the "special operation" but you're fine with that because it was never about "nazis" or anything... just some good old genocidal Russian imperialism that you adore so much. I'm just not quite sure why you're shy to parrot all of the Kremlin propagandist stuff, not just select bits. You're skipping the parts about nuking Berlin and London and all that shit, as if you don't really believe it perhaps, yet all the things about "nazis" must be absolutely true. No cognitive dissonance?
I don't understand the reason for your cognitive dissonance. There are subjective countries in the world and objects of their influence. Russia is a subjective country, Ukraine is an object of its influence. Ukraine does not have actual sovereignty, even if it has all the formal characteristics of a sovereign state. If this is news or revelation to you, then you don’t understand anything about politics.

Even under your imperialistic and simplistic view of the world, it seems that Ukraine has decided they have a say on  whose influence they are better of with. Even a "subject" seems to be able to choose the "whateverf**k" that fits best.

I am not sure what you call "actual sovereignty", Ukraine is a recognised independent nation and as any country has to live with a range of influences - no country is free to do at will, not even the US, they are all subject to conditions, influences and relations. By now, they have figured out that Moscow would treat them like they treat the rest of the "subjects" - impoverishing them, sending them to die and letting them to deal with the local despot. They want to try something different.


That is very simplistic view...since nation is sociological and not biological fact, its subject to influence and change
Fact is that currently USA can fight with $$$ and Russia has to use weapons...but thats subject to change too,
in next few decades, or, why not, centuries

I do not see how that changes anything I have said above, at most I would need to thank you for further proving my point. Ukraine, Ruzzia and Vanuatu for that matter are subject to influences, it just seem that the current influence tells most Ukrainians that it is worth fighting for a degree of independence.

On regards to US fighting with dollars... I assume you are speaking of the specific case of Ukraine, in many other places US has military presence. Are you somehow eager to see a US / Ruzzia unrestricted fight? I am not.
569  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Publicly held Trump trials - ongoing on: December 05, 2023, 10:19:58 AM
Sounds like you don't really understand freedom, liberty, and the basics of how governments work.

Understand it any way you like, the tangerine blowhard and his ridiculous hair implants are still going to jail.  Most likely along with a few of his co-conspirators.    

Well, you're close. It isn't jail. It's prison... the prison of the Presidency. I mean, why would anyone give up his freedom to put up with 330 million Americans and all their gripes?

Trump thanks the courts for all their advertising. The people have loved Trump since before 2020. All this court advertising is simply bringing it out into the open, as the polls are showing us.

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Cool

By the way, I have not fully understood the implications or full meaning of the Trump slogan "Make America Great Again". It seems to imply there was a period of time or an era when The United States was "great" or better than it is today.
I wonder what Trump means by it, what was the golden age he intends to take back the nation to? Is he talking about the 80's, the 90's ?
Because it would be a matter of personal opinion and perspective whether those years were actually the greatest for the USA or not, even among Republicans, many of them would disagree when they golden age which they want so much actually took place.

Leaving the USA aside, to me the best years were the early 2000-2010. Probably just because it was my childhood and all was just fun and games. Who knows.

Because there isn't anything behind the slogan! MAGA is whatever Trump decides is the flavour of the day, to the point that he may be telling people two different things in the same day like during covid.

Anyway the key items are immigration (trying to stop it even threating attacking Mexico and stuff...), international relations - extreme tariffs to imports; "stopping the war in Ukraine in 24 hours", Cozy with Ruzzia, China, North Korea, supporter of Israel, locally lowering taxes and the usual Republican economic agenda. On abortion and civil liberties, he has by now figured out that he will need a much softer approach if he wants to win elections (one day this, next day that).

All this is just a political programme - quite hyperbolic and probably not the right one for the US - but not really a problem. The problem is the already in preparation assault to institutions, putting a set of pre-screened high level civil servants that would not hesitate in breaking the law if asked to. The prep work is being done by "ONGs" that have "no relation to Trump" *wink *wink. That is the real problem, apart with giving wings to every undocumented idiot in the US that has "a theory".

570  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: December 05, 2023, 08:56:04 AM
USA tried to replace Russian sphere of influence by destroying Russian one, employing nazis
to do that for them. So Russians battle it by fighting Nazis and protecting Russians

replacing a language is part of changing the spheres of influence

[...]

Why wouldn't the west sponsor neo-nazis to fight against Russia once again?

LOL you've been massively lied to about the purposes of the "special operation" but you're fine with that because it was never about "nazis" or anything... just some good old genocidal Russian imperialism that you adore so much. I'm just not quite sure why you're shy to parrot all of the Kremlin propagandist stuff, not just select bits. You're skipping the parts about nuking Berlin and London and all that shit, as if you don't really believe it perhaps, yet all the things about "nazis" must be absolutely true. No cognitive dissonance?
I don't understand the reason for your cognitive dissonance. There are subjective countries in the world and objects of their influence. Russia is a subjective country, Ukraine is an object of its influence. Ukraine does not have actual sovereignty, even if it has all the formal characteristics of a sovereign state. If this is news or revelation to you, then you don’t understand anything about politics.

Even under your imperialistic and simplistic view of the world, it seems that Ukraine has decided they have a say on  whose influence they are better of with. Even a "subject" seems to be able to choose the "whateverf**k" that fits best.

I am not sure what you call "actual sovereignty", Ukraine is a recognised independent nation and as any country has to live with a range of influences - no country is free to do at will, not even the US, they are all subject to conditions, influences and relations. By now, they have figured out that Moscow would treat them like they treat the rest of the "subjects" - impoverishing them, sending them to die and letting them to deal with the local despot. They want to try something different.


571  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Publicly held Trump trials - ongoing on: December 05, 2023, 12:01:41 AM
Sounds like you don't really understand freedom, liberty, and the basics of how governments work.

Understand it any way you like, the tangerine blowhard and his ridiculous hair implants are still going to jail.  Most likely along with a few of his co-conspirators.    

Well, you're close. It isn't jail. It's prison... the prison of the Presidency. I mean, why would anyone give up his freedom to put up with 330 million Americans and all their gripes?

Trump thanks the courts for all their advertising. The people have loved Trump since before 2020. All this court advertising is simply bringing it out into the open, as the polls are showing us.

[p

Cool

https://www.reuters.com/legal/about-half-us-republicans-could-spurn-trump-if-he-is-convicted-reutersipsos-poll-2023-08-03/

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About half of US Republicans could spurn Trump if he is convicted, Reuters/Ipsos poll shows
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asked respondents if they would vote for Trump for president next year if he were "convicted of a felony crime by a jury." Among Republicans, 45% said they would not vote for him
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Try again.

572  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: December 04, 2023, 10:48:28 PM
Lets see what Germans say, then

[link to propaganda removed]

Because the Germans speak with one voice, and you just happen to have found the guy who speaks for them? And it happens that the origin of the comment is a Norwegian guy, involved in propaganda activities from Ruzzia.

I any case, again, irrelevant, the deal was a bogus, it imposed conditions on western democracies and it would only last until Putin felt like taking more land.

Economically, Putin should fail. If the US citizens are convinced that they should "do nothing" then is likely Ruzzia will have some type of success. Europe is one of the few allies of the US in the world, if US fails to support the price to pay would be felt for generations.

Ok, here's another Norwegian for you:

https://www.politico.eu/article/nato-boss-jens-stoltenberg-warns-of-bad-news-from-ukraine/

The investors now realized their ROI are not good enough. They'll now support Ukrainians in thoughts and Prayers.

The ROI is excellent. Removing all those armoured vehicles, artillery and a few ships for a few billion and from the perspective of the US, with no loss of their own armies is the perfect deal. More knowing that the old soviet capacity of production and a good part of the technologically advanced platforms are not replaceable. It does put a good limit to the next aggression from Ruzzia.

Think of it, if the US wanted to end the war, they would commit the resources that are required, instead of just a few units of this and a few units of that.

Regarding the support, I know you want to believe in everyone who says that the support will stop, but at the moment is more likely that the US will put forward a single approval for a full year of war rather than the opposite.
573  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia: Supreme Court Bans “LGBT Movement” as “Extremist” on: December 04, 2023, 05:44:02 PM
Putin's government needs to find enemies so that people do not really see who the real enemy is and worry about other things. My guess is that they may as well start sending the gays to the frontline - this now seems the go-to method to reduce the population in prisons. Ruzzia is quite broken if they need to resort to this type of shit to justify themselves before their people.
574  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: December 04, 2023, 10:18:53 AM
Lets see what Germans say, then

[link to propaganda removed]

Because the Germans speak with one voice, and you just happen to have found the guy who speaks for them? And it happens that the origin of the comment is a Norwegian guy, involved in propaganda activities from Ruzzia.

I any case, again, irrelevant, the deal was a bogus, it imposed conditions on western democracies and it would only last until Putin felt like taking more land.

Economically, Putin should fail. If the US citizens are convinced that they should "do nothing" then is likely Ruzzia will have some type of success. Europe is one of the few allies of the US in the world, if US fails to support the price to pay would be felt for generations.
575  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: December 04, 2023, 09:33:26 AM

You need to learn to summarize. Putin demand was that Ukraine would not join NATO and Ruzzia would keep the illegally acquired territory - something difficult to see as a "win-win". And on top of that he also wants to impose conditions on NATO and the European countries. That's not a plan is a threat.

What is another obvious problem with this "plan"? There is nothing preventing Putin for annexing more land at will. The "West" cannot provide guarantees to a country that is effectively prevented from having the means to defend itself and from getting the protection of an alliance.

What type of deal is that then? What would prevent Putin from toppling the government of Ukraine at will or take new territories? Again, not a plan but a threat -"do as I say or else it will be worse"

The answer is "since Ukraine has to either fight or be under Moscow control, we fight and we s do it ASAP". Sorry if this was not the answer Putin was expecting, sorry if he thought the European Union would not help, US not get involved and the Ukrainians not willing to fight. A head of state that makes such as errors in judgement should not be in charge of a country. Well... except Ruzzia.

It does not resist even the most elementary analysis.



Even Ukrainians see it more clear now than you do  Grin

"Ukrainian telegram channel Ze Rada: "Hero of Russia Boris Johnson.  It was Boris Johnson who convinced Kiev to withdraw from all negotiations on June 20, 2022.
 At the moment when the Russian Federation made a critical mistake, deciding that a police operation (now the beginning of the SMO is assessed in this way) could persuade Kiev to compromise,[...]

 And Russia resisted, as it has resisted many times in history.[...]

 And you called Trump an agent of Russia..."

I think has strong links to Ruzzia yes. Either that or he cannot tell allies from enemies. He has stated many times that "he would end the war in a day" - which regardless of being another hyperbole, there is only one way to achieve that result - giving Ruzzia whatever they want. But let's no always make all about Trump, it is boring.

I do not see how the propaganda you have put in here changes in any way the fact that the deal offered to Ukraine (with impositions on "the West" as a side dish) was less of a bogus, one sided, meant to be broken, unfeasible in regards to guarantees and a threat by the Ruzzia mafia state rather than a deal.

If anything you argument confirms that Ruzzia is about threats. Bullies do not give up until they get a punch in the nose.

As for sanctions, they are as effective as "freezing Europe". As for Ruzzia resisting...



576  Economy / Gambling / Re: Slot Educational on: December 04, 2023, 12:33:06 AM
Reminds me of the food adverts in which governments with very limited budgets try to get just simple ideas in the mind of people such as the "five a day" while massive corporations with endless resources put add after add about doughnuts and countless money into making people believe that cereals are actually healthy and eating avocado is somehow "detox". Same here.
577  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Javier Milei wins presidency in Argentina on: December 04, 2023, 12:28:23 AM
Guys et all, once again we are way off-topic and dragged into and endless discussion about Trump. I would be ok if we were comparing, but you know who only wants to dump once again political propaganda.

Milei, which is the topic here, has above anything else a ultra-liberal agenda for the economy. The plan is feasible - get dollars for YPF, Aerolineas Argentinas and other state companies and dollarize the economy. If you ask me, the numbers are very difficult to match. You need a lot more US money to carry out the plan and remove the tariffs to export.

Also, the social movements may simply stop the reforms in its tracks - speaking for example of railways, transport and other unions that typically will oppose liberal reforms. There are interesting times ahead for Argentina, but I am see lots of social unrest which is quite dangerous in a country were the military had the power not long ago.
578  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: December 03, 2023, 09:53:45 PM
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Michael von der Schulenburg is a former UN Assistant Secretary-General, who worked for over 34 years for the United Nations

Hajo Funke is Professor Emeritus for political sciences of the Otto-Suhr-Institute/ Freie University Berlin

General (ret.) Harald Kujat was the highest ranging German officer of the Bundeswehr and at NATO
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Just one month after the start of the Russian military intervention in Ukraine, Ukrainian and Russian negotiators had come very close to an agreement for a ceasefire and to an outline for a comprehensive peace solution to the conflict.
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Contrary to Western interpretations, Ukraine and Russia agreed at the time that the planned NATO expansion was the reason for the war. They therefore focused their peace negotiations on Ukraine’s neutrality and its renunciation of NATO membership. In return, Ukraine would have retained its territorial integrity except for Crimea. [...]
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The Washington Post reported April 5 that in NATO, continuing the war is preferred to a cease-fire and negotiated settlement: “[yellow=red,2,300]For some in NATO, it’s better for Ukrainians to keep fighting and dying[/glow] than to achieve a peace that comes too soon or at too high a price for Kiev and the rest of Europe.” Zelensky, he said, should “keep fighting until Russia is completely defeated.”

BORIS JOHNSON’S MESSAGE TO UKRAINIANS ON APRIL 9, 2022: WE MUST CONTINUE THE WAR

On April 9, 2022, Boris Johnson arrived unannounced in Kiev and told the Ukrainian president that the West was not ready to end the war. According to Britain’s Guardian on April 28, PM Johnson had “instructed” Ukrainian President Zelensky “not to make any concessions to Putin”:
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Johnson brought two simple messages with him to Kiev. The first is that Putin is a war criminal; he should be pressured, not negotiated with. The second is that even if Ukraine is willing to sign some agreements with Putin on guarantees, but that the collective West is not.
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You need to learn to summarize. Putin demand was that Ukraine would not join NATO and Ruzzia would keep the illegally acquired territory - something difficult to see as a "win-win". And on top of that he also wants to impose conditions on NATO and the European countries. That's not a plan is a threat.

What is another obvious problem with this "plan"? There is nothing preventing Putin for annexing more land at will. The "West" cannot provide guarantees to a country that is effectively prevented from having the means to defend itself and from getting the protection of an alliance.

What type of deal is that then? What would prevent Putin from toppling the government of Ukraine at will or take new territories? Again, not a plan but a threat -"do as I say or else it will be worse"

The answer is "since Ukraine has to either fight or be under Moscow control, we fight and we s do it ASAP". Sorry if this was not the answer Putin was expecting, sorry if he thought the European Union would not help, US not get involved and the Ukrainians not willing to fight. A head of state that makes such as errors in judgement should not be in charge of a country. Well... except Ruzzia.

It does not resist even the most elementary analysis.


579  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Publicly held Trump trials - ongoing on: December 03, 2023, 09:40:03 PM
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Sounds like you don't really understand freedom, liberty, and the basics of how governments work.

The only reason why Trump is having the trouble he is having is, he agreed to it.The laws of the US are applicable to government people more than they are to non-government people. Why? Because government people took the Oath of Office (OoO). Since Trump is not in government any longer, he is not under the OoO at the moment. If he doesn't prosecute the government people for the harm they are doing to him, that's his business.

I know it a big step in understanding for a slave like you to take, but at least try to free yourself from the ignorance. Or do you like being a slave?

Cool

He certainly swore the Constitution - the one you have not read and do not understand.

You are here the only slave to your own ignorance and fantasies. The worst king of ignorant - the one who does not even know the extent of his own lack of knowledge and the worst kind of slave - one who thinks is free and lives in a wonderland of pink unicorns. Freedom is earned with blood and sweat, not shit-linking all over adult people having serious discussions.

Go to kindergaten kiddo.

580  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Publicly held Trump trials - ongoing on: December 03, 2023, 12:31:55 AM
Back on topic, with an UK newspaper just for you that seem to like the UK so much:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-gag-order-trial-latest-news-b2456671.html

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Trump suffers double court blow over Jan 6 cases: Latest
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A long-awaited federal appeals court ruling on Friday determined that Mr Trump can be held civilly liable for inciting the riots at the US Capitol on 6 January, 2021 in the wake of his 2020 loss.

The ruling, which followed three lawsuits from law enforcement officers and members of Congress whose lives were threatened that day, finds that the former president cannot use presidential “immunity” as a shield from that litigation.

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Since you would rather have other people tell you what your property is valued at - as they do Trump - and since you would rather accept their valuation as your own rather than your own valuation, I now value the private property of your thinking as less than worthless in the world.

However, I want to thank you for continuing your valueless posts. It gives us something to laugh at. After all, we need humor in our lives. Besides, your posts help to keep Bitcointalk.org alive.

We're waiting for your next piece of humor. I mean, you said it - your acceptance of other people valuing your property like they are doing Trump's property. So, come on. Give us some more humor.

Cool

You have a big problem. You have your idea of how the world should work according to you. But you do not seem to understand the difference between your wishful thinking and real life. You live in an illusion in which you can live your philosophy - and impose it on others - as a standalone ignorant in a world that owes you some inherent respects for your rights. I have bad news for you: The world cares shit about you and what you think. Modern states are organised how they are for many reason, but the key takeaway for you is that you do not get to change them to suit your views. - Relax, man (or are you a woman?). You don't have to get all hyper. I know that waking up can be difficult. But relax. You will wake up a lot easier that way.

God controls the world. He does it according to his love for people, even though they fight Him or try to ignore Him. So, it doesn't matter what the world thinks. What matters is their relationship with God.


Your ideals are ridiculous e.g. "the right to contract" -  the right to contract does not exist in nature, it requires laws and the ability to enforce it, else a contract is as good as a cowshit. - What does nature have to do with it. The right to contract is something for beings who can reason like people can. The animals live by instinct (ultra-complex programming).

The right to contract is legally written differently in different countries. I have shown you the way it is written in the US - https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/article-1/section-10/clause-1/contract-clause. Search on it. It has been adjudicated to mean that people have the right to contract with others.

If there wasn't any contract law at all, natural contract law would still exist among the people. Then, it would be the parties to the contract who would enforce their contracts. Having it written in law simply makes it easier. Or didn't you know that it was people who made the laws and Constitutions, and had to agree or not agree to them?


For example - and I know you are an absolute ignorant on this, so just fucking google it - you do not get to put any valuation on an asset. There are strict rules on what the value is because if not people would be committing fraud after fraud. Your own fucking source is telling you that the bankers knew the values were wrong. - Don't you own any property? If you do, you will find all kinds of people who will place different values on your property. If they all decide to value it the same, it's because they have a simple agreement (contract) with other people to value it that way. But the value that counts is the value you place on it, because you are the owner. Do you really like being overruled on your valuation of your own property?

I also know your are also an absolute ignorant regarding micro-economics - so just fucking google this - "Offer and demand" - the price is formed by a point in which demand an offer meet. Not at whatever price the owner decides if nobody would buy at that price. - Suppose you wanted to sell a piece of your property to others. If nobody will buy it, it's because you placed too big of a price on it. Take your pick. Revalue it at a lower price, or keep it. It's called the free market.

If you and the people of your country don't have freedom to value things they trade between themselves, there is very little for you guys to live for. If government figures out the price of everything that is bought and sold in your land, then what's the use of trying to get ahead in life? It's all been decided for you, already.


I have also figured out by now that you are also an ignorant on regards to history, law and in general any aspect of civilization. Just fucking go to Amazon and buy a few books. - Do you even see what I mean? The libraries are full of books that are free to use... at least in the US. All you can think of is spending money at some company to buy what you could use freely at the library. Think, man (or are you a woman?).

You do not make the laws, you live under the laws made in a country with a system that is designed to solve problems without resorting to civil war, massive battles and breaking societies plus defending you capricious ass from the real bad people out there that would kill a stupid like you just for a minute of fun. - Don't you realize that people make the laws?

In the US, we have the 6th and 7th Amendments. Both of them allow a trial by a 12-person jury of ones peers. If the jury strikes down any law with regard to the current case, that law doesn't apply to the defendant. The jury rules. This is one of the BIG reasons why America is as free as it is. A little 12-person jury has rule over any laws that might have anything to do with a court case.


Said system includes, for example, the limits to a President authority, the illegality of arming mobs to assault the institutions, the authority of those that enforce the law,...If you want to change the basis of the US democracy and impose your tyranny, is not about winning the elections (which Trump could not even do the first time by popular vote BTW), is about a new civil war or, alternatively, get a supermajority willing to do so.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/about-the-white-house/our-government/the-constitution/#:~:text=An%20amendment%20may%20be%20proposed,in%20each%20State%20for%20ratification. - The thing that you (and many people) don't realize is that the Constitution doesn't have authority over individual people unless they contract with government. The Constitution exists to protect the people from Government Officials. It applies to government, and government officials who try to use it against the people, have the jury to tangle with, as I have written above.

Just fucking bother to read the Constitution of your fucking country and try to understand what your vote means and what it does not mean what a president can and cannot do. - I don't need to read the Constitution. It applies to government people. But if they step out of line and harm me or other non-government individuals, I might use the Constitution to put government people in their place. Because that is what the Constitution is for.

Either all that or you are an agent of China selling fentanyl to underaged Americans and polluting this forum with links to fake information.

If you are a person in the UK, you should really find out the basics of UK law. It is similar to that of the US in many ways. It's even better in some ways, because if it is properly used, it bypasses a lot of thinking that one would have to do to put down evil government officials. One of the best places you can go to find out about both, US law and also UK law is Karl Lentz, here - https://www.youtube.com/user/765736/videos?view=0&live_view=500&flow=grid&sort=da.

In the UK, and several other countries that use UK-style law, consider Kings Bench court. It formerly was Queens Bench until the Queen died. It's the court for the common people, if they use it right.



Cool

Again, I am not a person man or woman, I do not live anywhere and as far as you are concern I exist only in a cloud server in an unmapped island in the South Pacific. I know you are eager to judge people for their origin - it prevents your from having to think.

I do not need to watch a video on UK law, nor on the Napoleonic code, the Hammurabi code or the Constitución de La Argentina. I can read and I do it when I want to learn something. Try it.

UK does not have a constitution as such and the common law and body of jurisprudence is quite different from the US, not to mention the organisation of the state, but that is irrelevant here.

As it is irrelevant which country you live in, a contract is nothing without enforcement. That enforcement requires law that require such enforcement and a mechanism to incentivise compliance or enforce. That "free man" thing (should be free person)  is missing lots of pieces of the puzzle dude.

On the valuation of properties, look, I get it, you are way out of your league on this discussion. But if you own anything, go to the bank and try to get a credit (just as an exercise) with the argument that "I decide the value of my property, not you". They will explain to you how it works (after a good laugh of course).

Just fucking bother to read the Constitution of your fucking country and try to understand what your vote means and what it does not mean what a president can and cannot do. - I don't need to read the Constitution. It applies to government people. But if they step out of line and harm me or other non-government individuals, I might use the Constitution to put government people in their place. Because that is what the Constitution is for.

Yes, you do, you desperately need to read it. Even if it is an illustrated version for kids. The moment you are a citizen of a country you are under the rules. If you do not like it, you need to create your own country and there set your rules.

Let's follow your fantasy for a moment and assume that you can live in a country, but the laws do not apply to you - because you are so "special" or whatever other nonsense. You are voting because there is a constitution that grants you that right. That's it, you vote, you accept it. It took the blood and good thinking of many a good people (a million times better than you by any measure) to get you that right, instead of the right to plead loyalty to Charles V.

It also states what that votes means for and how the president is elected and the limits of the presidential power. As a hint for you that "do not need to read it", it does NOT say that you are electing a Messiah, your Saviour, a demi-god nor the next dalai-lama. You are electing a dude (or a gal) that has a specific job with specific rules.

If you do not like the constitution get a super-majority and make an amendment - meanwhile, it is what it is. If you try to change the rules by force (e.g. sending a mob to the Capitol to kill people) you get jail time or needle.

You do not make the laws, you live under the laws made in a country with a system that is designed to solve problems without resorting to civil war, massive battles and breaking societies plus defending you capricious ass from the real bad people out there that would kill a stupid like you just for a minute of fun. - Don't you realize that people make the laws?

Yes, indirectly by choosing representatives. You are not "the people", you are an individual and do not get to make laws on your own.



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