 If that is christian "science"... I'll stick with atheist/secular, evidence based science (by definition, the only kind of science) Thanks, but no thanks I think that this picture that you found somewhere on the internet is nothing but a picture. It could be easily made by some people who do not support religion, or it could be made by some people that are stupid enough to believe in such things. Either way, its not something that is worth losing your belief. But we live in world of free will, so people will believe in all kind of things so ... Do you believe God created Earth 6000-7000 years ago like the Bible says? Yes or no? Do you believe God created man from dirt like the Bible says? Yes or no? Do you believe God created woman from a rib bone like the Bible says? Yes or no? Do you believe you believe a global flood happened 4000 years ago (killing everything that was not on the Noah's ark) like the Bible says? Yes or no? Do you believe we should kill gays like the Bible says? Yes or no? Do you believe we should kill people who work on Sabbath like the Bible says? Yes or no? If you answered yes to any of the above questions, you might a Christian (and are slightly retarded). The important point in the, above, questions is the part that says, "like the Bible says." When you look at all the scientific reasons why many people think that we live on a young earth, and that billions of years is complete nonsense, you will find that the Bible is way more accurate than standard science suggests. The Bible doesn't say that God created man from dirt. Read what it says. The Bible doesn't say that God created woman from a rib bone. However, it is way easier creating a woman from a rib bone than it is to form some dust of the ground into a man, and then breathe the breath of life into him. The Bible doesn't say that a global flood happened 4000 years ago. If you want to see the approximate time the Bible says for it, look here: http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm.The Bible doesn't say we should kill gays. Did you see your name or the name of anyone else in there with the instruction for him/her to do this? The Bible doesn't say we should kill people who work on the Sabbath. Or DID you find your name in there with that instruction? Since the questions are essentially invalid questions, if you answered yes to any of those question, you might be a Jew or a Christian. You really need to go back and check out what the Bible says, thoroughly, like af_newbie obviously didn't. Did you even read your own link? ...this places the onset of the Flood at around 2331 B.C.
The genealogy of Genesis 5:3-32 precludes any gaps due to its tight chronological structure and gives us 1,656 years between Creation and the Flood, thus bringing Creation Week back to near 3987 B.C. or approximately 4000 B.C.
Let's do the math the double-check: Creation happened 3987BC Flood happened 1656 years later 3987 - 1656 = 2331BC2331 + 2017 = 4348 years agoSo, "The Bible doesn't say that a global flood happened 4000 years ago"?... is 4000 not close enough to 4348? |
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I've read many, many books, and the Bible, and Koran, are the most elegantly written.
Note: you sound exactly like Trump, a known liar/con-artist (you know its a lie when he says, "believe me") I haven't read the Quran myself, but I hear it is elegant when read in Arabic (but many become atheist after reading it in English, they say it's ugly) The bible on the other hand, not so much... It's not poetic, it has pages full of laws, genealogies, etc., not elegant (though most of the laws are quite amusing... can't wear clothing made of 2 different fabrics, or eat meat and cheese in the same meal... wtf?) The bible is full of atrocious behavior (as noted above), which you apparently don't mind... I agree that 2000+ years ago, times were different... but the point is... to an eternal god, it should not change... a god with no beginning or end, who knows all of space-time, would not be such a prick in the old testament (angry, jealous, vengeful, spiteful), and a nice guy in the new testament... eternity doesn't work like that, it's a blatant contradiction Multiple people have provided passages contradicting your claim that the bible is elegantly written... Do you have any passages to support your claim, or are we supposed to believe you without any facts or evidence to back up your claim? What claims have I made? Ive stated that I think the Bible is the bees knees, as far as writing goes. Ive also stated that I think Jesus was a badass speaker. ... It would also contribute to my post count, which is most righteous for my bitcoin wallet. So, where do we disagree? So let's get to know each other, Moloch. Your move. Did you just completely ignore my entire post? Do you dispute my claim that an elegant book would not include pages full of laughably silly laws where the penalty is death (Leviticus 18-22), and pages of nothing but names (genealogy)? That alone contradicts the elegance claim, doesn't it? Do you have any evidence to back up your claim that the bible is a elegantly written, "the bees knees as far as writing goes"? Can you provide any example of elegant writing in the bible? Anything at all? This is the account of Shem’s family line.
Two years after the flood, when Shem was 100 years old, he became the father of Arphaxad. And after he became the father of Arphaxad, Shem lived 500 years and had other sons and daughters.
When Arphaxad had lived 35 years, he became the father of Shelah. And after he became the father of Shelah, Arphaxad lived 403 years and had other sons and daughters.
When Shelah had lived 30 years, he became the father of Eber. And after he became the father of Eber, Shelah lived 403 years and had other sons and daughters.
When Eber had lived 34 years, he became the father of Peleg. And after he became the father of Peleg, Eber lived 430 years and had other sons and daughters.
When Peleg had lived 30 years, he became the father of Reu. And after he became the father of Reu, Peleg lived 209 years and had other sons and daughters.
When Reu had lived 32 years, he became the father of Serug. And after he became the father of Serug, Reu lived 207 years and had other sons and daughters.
When Serug had lived 30 years, he became the father of Nahor. And after he became the father of Nahor, Serug lived 200 years and had other sons and daughters.
When Nahor had lived 29 years, he became the father of Terah. And after he became the father of Terah, Nahor lived 119 years and had other sons and daughters.
After Terah had lived 70 years, he became the father of Abram, Nahor and Haran.
How is this elegant, poetic, or anything other than bullshit? It seems like you only care about your post count, and not having an actual discussion, which requires reading, answering questions, posting facts and evidence to back up a claim, etc |
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I've read many, many books, and the Bible, and Koran, are the most elegantly written.
Note: you sound exactly like Trump, a known liar/con-artist (you know its a lie when he says, "believe me") I haven't read the Quran myself, but I hear it is elegant when read in Arabic (but many become atheist after reading it in English, they say it's ugly) The bible on the other hand, not so much... It's not poetic, it has pages full of laws, genealogies, etc., not elegant (though most of the laws are quite amusing... can't wear clothing made of 2 different fabrics, or eat meat and cheese in the same meal... wtf?) The bible is full of atrocious behavior (as noted above), which you apparently don't mind... I agree that 2000+ years ago, times were different... but the point is... to an eternal god, it should not change... a god with no beginning or end, who knows all of space-time, would not be such a prick in the old testament (angry, jealous, vengeful, spiteful), and a nice guy in the new testament... eternity doesn't work like that, it's a blatant contradiction Multiple people have provided passages contradicting your claim that the bible is elegantly written... Do you have any passages to support your claim, or are we supposed to believe you without any facts or evidence to back up your claim? |
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If you kill Muslims you are killing all people basically humans are created to love each other, love and give because god creates a human not to kill fellow human beings, although we are different tribes, races and religions but we can not kill each other  God hates people who love to kill because in the same course killing everyone I strongly disagree with Muslim killing   I agree. We can not kill a person just because he is bad or not of such a religion. There are many other peaceful ways to solve this problem. Let's see what the bible has to say about other religions, shall we? If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
The bible says you are required to stone them to death for believing in another religion... Let's check again? If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
Well there you have it... god commands you to stone Muslims to death Where is the passage about loving them? I can't seem to find it anywhere in this entire bible Perhaps my bible is broken? |
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Any god who would ask you to kill your own child, is not worthy of the title god...
Nor is any god who murders innocent children and animals (10th plague of Egypt)
Neither is worthy of my worship... even if this sky-god did exist (it doesn't), I would not worship such a monster
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This is a totally bullshit talking. How you can say that religion is poison.?. What's your logical backup against that sort of Vogue topic. Have you any logic.?.
Are you come from nature.?. Aren't you came from any procedure.?. Everything is come from different process,
Everything is going according some laws which is directed by the Creator.
There is only one Creator, whatever name you can give to him. There is no logic behind non believing about the Creator.
Did you bother to read a single post in this thread before replying with such nonsense? If you could fucking read, you would see the logic of 645 posts... You are like that idiot kid in class who asks the same question the teacher JUST answered! |
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These are just crazy heads, they fuck it up for every organization (read: Islamic terrorists, hyper conservative evangelicals, etc). I can't promise you, mop bashery is not part of the Good Book. But, it makes for a great clip. The most extreme elements of an organization are usually the definition of said organization, to those with little knowledge of the true ideology of the organization. I see it on CNN and Fox, it's a fault of rhetoric.Its not partisan, I mean. Religions are full of rhetoric, same.principles apply. Jesus was the best rhetorician that has walked the Earth, it would be dishonest to deny this.ROFL First, Jesus never existed Second, biblical quotes are far from profound (some are quite horrifying)... the bible is not known as a literary work of art by any stretch of the imagination ... to you.  I'm sorry you don't have the light of the Lord in your life, but, you don't seem to care, so meh. I'm not one of those proselytizing Christians. You pick your own path  But, alot of people in the United States would disagree with you. Doesn't invalidate your choice, but something to think about. Do you think I've never read the bible? It's SHIT... worst book I've EVER read... it's horrible from cover to cover Have you actually read the bible? Not just what you're told in church, but actually read it from cover to cover? No? Then you aren't qualified to comment, are you? Here's a random meme since I haven't posted one in this thread for a while  I'm a 31 year old Christian of the Southern Baptist convention (I'm an evangelical). Read about half, me and the wife do a weekly Bible study intensively, but to her credit, she has finished the entire book. I myself find it fascinating, the depth of the symbolism is amazing, and speaks to an intelligence beyond my own. Allegories that persist in meaning even to this day! A marvelous piece of literature. And I like Stephen King, to give you a read on my preferred literature. Asimov too. And those Dresden books, delicious. And I don't believe in organized religion. Now, that shit is pioson, if you do it wrong. It's why you think Christianity is wrong, LOL. You had a bad dish of it. AMD whike you may have finished the Book (,I commend thus, I'm actively on my way), it's obvious to me you didn't understand it. You may want to embrace it a bit more yourself You either have not read much/any of the bible, or you think quotes like these are good? If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you.
But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die. But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter: For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her.
If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
Translation: If you rape a virgin who is engaged, you are both to be stoned to death If you rape a virgin who is not engaged, you must marry her and pay her father 50 shekels of silver Here's another winner... If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
That's just sick... if you have "a stubborn and rebellious son"... you are to murder him? WHAT THE FUCK?!? Literary work of art right there... so beautiful to read... makes me weep Where the fuck do you get off calling this shit "A marvelous piece of literature"? |
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These are just crazy heads, they fuck it up for every organization (read: Islamic terrorists, hyper conservative evangelicals, etc). I can't promise you, mop bashery is not part of the Good Book. But, it makes for a great clip. The most extreme elements of an organization are usually the definition of said organization, to those with little knowledge of the true ideology of the organization. I see it on CNN and Fox, it's a fault of rhetoric.Its not partisan, I mean. Religions are full of rhetoric, same.principles apply. Jesus was the best rhetorician that has walked the Earth, it would be dishonest to deny this.ROFL First, Jesus never existed Second, biblical quotes are far from profound (some are quite horrifying)... the bible is not known as a literary work of art by any stretch of the imagination ... to you. I'm sorry you don't have the light of the Lord in your life, but, you don't seem to care, so meh. I'm not one of those proselytizing Christians. You pick your own path But, alot of people in the United States would disagree with you. Doesn't invalidate your choice, but something to think about. Do you think I've never read the bible? It's SHIT... worst book I've EVER read... it's horrible from cover to cover Have you actually read the bible? Not just what you're told in church, but actually read it from cover to cover? No? Then you aren't qualified to comment, are you? Here's a random meme since I haven't posted one in this thread for a while |
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These are just crazy heads, they fuck it up for every organization (read: Islamic terrorists, hyper conservative evangelicals, etc). I can't promise you, mop bashery is not part of the Good Book. But, it makes for a great clip. The most extreme elements of an organization are usually the definition of said organization, to those with little knowledge of the true ideology of the organization. I see it on CNN and Fox, it's a fault of rhetoric.Its not partisan, I mean. Religions are full of rhetoric, same.principles apply. Jesus was the best rhetorician that has walked the Earth, it would be dishonest to deny this.ROFL First, Jesus never existed Second, biblical quotes are far from profound (some are quite horrifying)... the bible is not known as a literary work of art by any stretch of the imagination |
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If that is christian "science"... I'll stick with atheist/secular, evidence based science (by definition, the only kind of science) Thanks, but no thanks |
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I support our new robot overlords
They can't be worse than the asshats currently running the show
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Christianity is slowly overcoming Islam in Muslim lands. No. That is not the case. The Christian majority nations are becoming less Christian. Some of these nations will be Muslim majority by 2030 (examples are Macedonia, Ethiopia, Kazakhstan.etc). On the other hand, the Muslim majority nations are on their way towards having 100% Muslim population (Yemen, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan.etc). But it's rapidly spreading in populous countries such as China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Chinalol... Christians have been trying to convert the Chinese for 1300 years, and they are somewhere between 2.4 and 4%... you call that "rapidly spreading"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_China |
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Christianity is slowly overcoming Islam in Muslim lands. No. That is not the case. The Christian majority nations are becoming less Christian. Some of these nations will be Muslim majority by 2030 (examples are Macedonia, Ethiopia, Kazakhstan.etc). On the other hand, the Muslim majority nations are on their way towards having 100% Muslim population (Yemen, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan.etc). True story... the "nones" (no religion/agnostic/atheist) are the fastest growing religious group in christian majority nations (US, England, Australia, etc) In the rest of the world, the Muslims are by far the fastest growing religious group http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/06/why-muslims-are-the-worlds-fastest-growing-religious-group/In the next half century or so, Christianity’s long reign as the world’s largest religion may come to an end, according to a just-released report that builds on Pew Research Center’s original population growth projections for religious groups. Indeed, Muslims will grow more than twice as fast as the overall world population between 2015 and 2060 and, in the second half of this century, will likely surpass Christians as the world’s largest religious group.
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Think about the smell man!
Could you imagine the stench of 100+ corpses displayed in every city?
Not to mention...
Who are you displaying these dead bodies for?
Who would want to look at such a thing?
Do you force people to look at dead bodies?
Is this an exhibit?
Do you charge admission?
What is the goal here?
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God created all things for His purposes, for His glory.
Does that include pedophiles and child cancer? Why do you think so many pedophiles are priests? |
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Christianity is logical.
While Christinity does teach many admirable good things, such as "love your neighbours", "turn the other cheek" etc, it's core revolves around salivation of Christ which is totally illogical at every level, and inconsistent with the "loving God" concept. Why would anyone born with an ounce of common sense beg for forgiveness to God for the way they were made, for the way he made them?  At it's core, Christianity contradicts Christianity. Illogical. What you say is logical. Even the ignorant statements you make are logical for you. Any religion is not logical. All religion wants to develop a person's guilt and educates people to submit to atone for the guilt which is not before God that does not exist. This is nonsense! Which part doesn't make sense? This part?  Or this part?  |
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Just look at Molochs post history. Very low quality, spammy, sometimes consisting of only linked pictures or walls of quoted text that somebody else made for him.
I swear a whore from Palm beach knows more about proper research and argumentation, than this beta cuck.
Not really sure, why most militant atheists have reasoning capacity of average Islamic State member. They even dress the same.
Whats with the personal attacks? Did I forget to pay your mother for sex again? (tell her I'm sorry about the herpes) I just assumed everyone had heard about the March for Science... the one that happened in hundreds of cities around the planet... attended by millions of people I don't see how someone could claim to love science, but didn't hear about the march for science... doesn't compute |
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I swear this guy has to be BADLogic http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2017/04/23/creationist-ken-ham-marchforscience-protesters-dont-understand-what-real-science-is-all-about/Creationists understand science correctly recognizing difference between belief, interpretation & observation--most secularists don't get it
Science means knowledge. There's a gigantic difference between beliefs re origins & what one directly observes--evolution is belief
Secularists refuse to recognize difference between historical & observational science as they don't want to admit evolution is a belief
One can observe process of natural selection & speciation--but that has nothing to do with molecules to man evolutionary belief
Most of those in the so called March for Science don't understand what real science is all about--they've been brainwashed by secularists
Secularists use word 'science' to indoctrinate millions of kids in schools with their religion of naturalism (atheism) using taxpayer money
christians are extremely good at projecting their own flaws onto others https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projectionPsychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others. For example, a person who is habitually rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude. It incorporates blame shifting.
According to some research, the projection of one's unconscious qualities onto others is a common process in everyday life.
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