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1381  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: April 09, 2016, 07:59:47 AM
I think the polytheists would disagree with you. Why do you think they're wrong and you're right? What's the science behind choosing one god over many?

Genesis 1:1 clearly states that there are multiple gods

Elohim created the universe, not El or Jehovah/Yahweh, but Elohim (generic plural form for gods)

When the bible is speaking of God, God... it specifically calls him Jehovah
1382  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Socialism losing against Capitalism? on: April 09, 2016, 07:47:52 AM
First, look up the differences between communism and socialism

Second, look into the socialist countries that are doing well... Sweden, Norway, Denmark, most of Europe, etc

Third, name a capitalist country besides America

Fourth, America is in the shitter right now, and dragging the whole world down with it... America is most definitely not doing well... I'd go so far as to say America is fucked and another recession/depression is about to smash us in the face again

This is mainly due to the inherent corruption in the capitalist system... it's not a good system at all... it breeds corruption and the most corrupt will always end up with all the money... this is why 50% of the world's money is held by only 63 people
1383  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Conspiracy craze: why 12 million Americans believe alien lizards rule us on: April 09, 2016, 05:14:03 AM
Is it global warming or man-bear-pig?

You decide!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ManBearPig
1384  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Conspiracy craze: why 12 million Americans believe alien lizards rule us on: April 09, 2016, 04:49:09 AM
I, for one, welcome our new lizard overlords

Anything is better than the last batch of lizards we let loose in congress
1385  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: April 09, 2016, 04:39:45 AM
don't you see how perfect the work of our body?  how perfect the earth is.

Actually I dont...

I'm colorblind as are 8% of men... that isn't perfect

The fact that we eat and breathe using the same hole in our face, ensures that a certain percentage of the population will die by choking to death... that isn't perfect design

What about Leukemia?  What about Down's Syndrome?  Is that part of gods perfect plan?

Did god also create the myriad of diseases on our planet?

Did god create the parasite that burrows into a child's eyeball and eats his eye from the inside?  That's absolutely horrible

The Earth is perfect?  WTF have you been smoking?

The Earth is survival of the fittest... dog eat dog... kill or be killed... that's not very pleasant for anyone

The Earth has earthquakes, volcanoes, lightning, hurricanes, famine, hunger, disease, pestilence, etc

You suffer from one hell of a confirmation bias


"perfect" I meant is you have mind, perfect system inside your body. even if you have weaknesses, every man have because we're not God and we are created, you have something special inside you. the thing is you know it or you still don't know.

abouth the earth, God has created the good thing and bad thing. if everything is good, then how are you tested? He's testing all of us. are we pattient with the bad things or we blame him. if we do the right things, we will be given better things.

all of the rules are in Qur'an. if you want to know how perfect God's creation, read it. you can read the translation.

Do you also believe Muhammad flew around on a flying horse?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buraq



Come on man... flying horses are not real

Flying horses are make-believe fairy tales, just like the rest of the qur'an, just like the bible, just like the bhagavad gita

All religions are ridiculous, and none of it actually happened


PS. Thanks for reminding me its nearly time for the annual "draw mohammed day"
https://www.facebook.com/events/1491745381115822/
1386  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: April 09, 2016, 12:16:05 AM
don't you see how perfect the work of our body?  how perfect the earth is.

Actually I dont...

I'm colorblind as are 8% of men... that isn't perfect

The fact that we eat and breathe using the same hole in our face, ensures that a certain percentage of the population will die by choking to death... that isn't perfect design

What about Leukemia?  What about Down's Syndrome?  Is that part of gods perfect plan?

Did god also create the myriad of diseases on our planet?

Did god create the parasite that burrows into a child's eyeball and eats his eye from the inside?  That's absolutely horrible

The Earth is perfect?  WTF have you been smoking?

The Earth is survival of the fittest... dog eat dog... kill or be killed... that's not very pleasant for anyone

The Earth has earthquakes, volcanoes, lightning, hurricanes, famine, hunger, disease, pestilence, etc

You suffer from one hell of a confirmation bias

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
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Confirmation bias, also called confirmatory bias or myside bias, is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's beliefs or hypotheses, while giving disproportionately less consideration to alternative possibilities. It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning. People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way. The effect is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs. People also tend to interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing position.
1387  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: April 08, 2016, 09:12:11 PM
If God hates fags, why does he keep making them?

Why does he command his followers to hate and murder gays instead of doing it himself?

Is it some form of addiction, where he hates it but cannot stop doing it?

Does he get off on watching his little humans murder each other over where a man sticks his penis?
1388  Other / Politics & Society / Re: America can afford a universal basic income on: April 08, 2016, 08:49:20 AM
The panama papers is only the tip of the iceberg... there are hundreds of law firms which set up shell corporations exactly like them

Even without these shell corporations, US tax laws have enough loopholes where rich people typically pay 5-7% in taxes without even cheating

The 39% tax rate only gets enforced on people with jobs (payroll tax)... rich people, who make money via capital gains, pay very little in taxes

The problem with rich people paying 5% is that poor people must pay 35% to pick up the slack!

If everyone paid their fair share, it would be under 20% for everyone
1389  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A German comedian could be sent to jail for insulting the Turkish president on: April 08, 2016, 08:01:35 AM
Only someone of an immature mental capacity cant take or accept the existence of criticism. Edrogan is a new Stalin and Hitler all rolled into one.

There's not being able to take criticism, which can be understandable sometimes and then there's deliberately going out of your way to get somebody thrown into jail over it.

I suppose it's better than what Putin would do... he simply murders his opposition... sometimes using radioactive isotopes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia
1390  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: April 08, 2016, 07:57:33 AM
Some statements we read on the comments on this thread are stupefying.

But the most astonishing thing is that their authors claim that their beliefs are all scientifically proven.

Jonathan Swift: “It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.”

Sometimes I don't know why I bother...

I like to tell myself that someone reading it understands the conversation, even when the person I am debating clearly doesn't have a clue

The reason you bother is that you don't have any real reasoning for the things that you think, and you are trying to find someone who will tell you the reason why you reject the truth.

You are amazing at projecting yourself onto others... its uncanny

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

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Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unpleasant impulses by denying their existence while attributing them to others. For example, a person who is habitually rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude. It can take the form of blame shifting.

According to some research, the projection of one's negative qualities onto others is a common process in everyday life.
1391  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says on: April 08, 2016, 07:37:54 AM
Just because Jesus was an angel, doesn't mean He wasn't God as well. Consider, He was a man as well as God. Why not an angel as well?

Why stop there?  Maybe Jesus was also Satan?

Speaking directly about Jesus, Isaiah says in Isaiah 63:9:
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In all their distress he too was distressed, and the angel of his presence saved them. In his love and mercy he redeemed them; he lifted them up and carried them all the days of old.

The Angel of the Lord in the O.T. is thought to be the pre-incarnate Christ by many. See http://www.ivpress.com/title/exc/1423-8c.php.

1) Satan was an angel too

B) Your link is shit... wtf is this at the bottom?
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that's a big fail, that's what that is... exactly zero legitimate sources display php errors to the general public... that's a nono
1392  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: April 08, 2016, 07:28:44 AM
I don't really have any issues with Christianity. The only time I have ever made any substantial statements regarding religion of any kind is when it actually has the potential to physically harm somebody. This one time, I read about an assault that had to do with a Christian attacking an atheist because they openly said they were atheist. Nothing else. They didn't harm them, nothing.

There have been 6 Atheists murdered with machetes in Bangladesh within the past year...

The media doesn't report Atheists being murdered in foreign countries... nor do they report about countries murdering people for being homosexual

The media only reports when ISIS is beheading "Christians"... if ISIS beheads an Atheist or a homosexual... nobody cares

Atheists should stand up for their religion, just like people of other religions stand up for theirs.

They have been... the ones standing up for Atheism are the ones being murdered

You should feel ashamed for being an asshole about people being murdered for their "religious" beliefs... seriously dude... have some shame
1393  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says on: April 08, 2016, 07:19:49 AM
Just because Jesus was an angel, doesn't mean He wasn't God as well. Consider, He was a man as well as God. Why not an angel as well?

Why stop there?  Maybe Jesus was also Satan?
1394  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: April 08, 2016, 07:19:00 AM
Back 4500 years ago, multitudes of people lived to be 400 to 500 years ago. Nobody can refute this.

Still making us laugh... thanks
1395  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bangladesh considering abandoning Islam as its official religion on: April 08, 2016, 03:48:02 AM
bitbunny & hasan7779


What are you speaking about? Official religion. That only means that government should not be ruled by religions. It has nothing to do with making a religion illegal.

Every nation has (or had) an official religion...

America is literally the first secular nation in history


As for Bangladesh, I'd be happy if they would stop murdering Atheists with machetes:
Sixth Secularist Macheted To Death In Bangladesh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGempcCzLyQ
1396  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: April 08, 2016, 03:35:38 AM
After looking at all the somewhat offensive images here, I must inform you to understand that religion of any kind based in any view is not exactly a brainwashing tactic. In certain cases, we can consider religion or even education to be that, depending on how it is occupied to teach the culprit. We cannot focus on religion itself being a problem. We can however focus on its preachers/teachers. Just like how there are police officers out there that are abusing their power to enforce the law by enforcing false laws, there are teachers and preachers enforcing false facts/ways to handle a religion you're in/ falsely educating students.


Example of that: one girl is a Christian who believes in never hurting a person even if they hurt her in an attempt to teach people how to handle situations where you are hurt by other people.

Another girl who also just happens to be Christian thinks it's important to physically attack people if you think they have unholy demons inside of them and to throw holy water on them.



Now, which person do you actually think is mentally safe?

The problem is the bible says both good and bad things... if you let people believe it is real... and they read the wrong verses... they turn into a homicidal maniac

If a person is new to being a Christian... and they don't understand that part about god telling you to murder your child for being disobedient was just a joke... that god didn't actually mean the words that he wrote... they might actually murder their kid!

Quote from: Leviticus 20:9
Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death. Because they have cursed their father or mother, their blood will be on their own head.

Quote from: Deuteronomy 21:18-21
If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.” Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.

It's a dangerous book to leave laying around where people might read it
1397  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: April 08, 2016, 03:29:48 AM
I don't really have any issues with Christianity. The only time I have ever made any substantial statements regarding religion of any kind is when it actually has the potential to physically harm somebody. This one time, I read about an assault that had to do with a Christian attacking an atheist because they openly said they were atheist. Nothing else. They didn't harm them, nothing.

There have been 6 Atheists murdered with machetes in Bangladesh within the past year...

The media doesn't report Atheists being murdered in foreign countries... nor do they report about countries murdering people for being homosexual

The media only reports when ISIS is beheading "Christians"... if ISIS beheads an Atheist or a homosexual... nobody cares
1398  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: April 08, 2016, 03:15:30 AM
Some statements we read on the comments on this thread are stupefying.

But the most astonishing thing is that their authors claim that their beliefs are all scientifically proven.

Jonathan Swift: “It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.”

Sometimes I don't know why I bother...

I like to tell myself that someone reading it understands the conversation, even when the person I am debating clearly doesn't have a clue
1399  Other / Politics & Society / Re: David Cameron acknowledges profiting from offshore trust on: April 07, 2016, 10:27:55 PM
... aaaaaaaaand begin

The worst part about this whole fiasco is that Mossack Fonseca is only 1 of hundreds of lawfirms throughout the globe which do this exact same thing...

The reason not many Americans are on the list is simply because Americans used another company, not Mossack Fonseca...
1400  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: April 07, 2016, 08:27:48 PM
I have seen dozens of cases where psychics have been debunked as frauds... which makes it obvious that other psychics use the same tricks...
So because some are frauds, therefore they are all frauds... ?

because all of the available facts and evidence point to such a conclusion
That's not true, because actually the available facts and evidence are not adequately explained by the skeptical explanation. For some cases, a skeptic would have to imagine quite an elaborate conspiracy.

Randi again? But he has been dishonest! Check out this link:
http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/Page30.htm

You claim that all mediums are frauds, but is there any evidence at all that suggests Eisenbeiss was dishonest? I believe you have only pointed out hypothetical possibilities, apparently you do not realize that you also have a burden of proof in this discussion? You still did not link to anything that specifically addresses this one. Same with Thonnard's study; you don't understand it so you just point me to irrelevant sources that do not specifically address the study's methods.

1) People can say anything on the internet... this does not make it true...
Your link is nothing but propaganda not worth my time disputing... every claim they make is factually incorrect

B) Just watch some of Randi's videos (I linked 7 of them)... you will see exactly how he debunks them... he doesn't just debunk 1 person, he debunks the method they use... like cold-reading mediums... this is a tactic used by most of them and it is simply a trick... once you know its a trick, and how it is performed, you can safely assume anyone using it is a fraud

Every psychic ever has been debunked

Feel free to google about Eisenbeiss... I found this with a simple google search for "Eisenbeiss debunked"
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=120669

Apparently the chess match you are talking about took 8 years to play 48 moves (62 days per move)... yeah, seems legit... surely no funny business going on there...

How gullible are you?
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