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1441  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: April 05, 2016, 09:36:56 AM
Just wondering, is anyone here openly supporting Trump's decision to deport Mexicans? If so, why? I am not trying to judge the views or demands. I would just like to understand them. Not fight them, just understand them. Please quote and respond to me with your views if you are indeed a Trump supporter.

I am (and I am a Trump supporter.)

Reading your post... it sounds more like you do not support deporting illegals at all... only in the case of them being criminals, which everyone can agree upon... nobody is arguing for illegals who are also criminals to stay here... those always get deported/extradited

If you support letting them stay when they have an anchor baby, or if they are benign, or if they have useful talents/skills... then you support letting them stay, not deporting them... hate to break it to ya
1442  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: April 05, 2016, 06:57:51 AM
The fact that NDE can be reproduced with a magnet is proof that its a bullshit memory...

Got a source for all of that?

I feel like we are going in circles... this is the third time you asked me to repost something I already posted...  do you read my whole post or just the first sentence?

Michael Shermer Out of Body Experiment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCVzz96zKA0


Quote from: Video description
Michael Shermer travels to Laurentian University in Sudbury, Canada, to strap on the "God Helmet" in neuroscientist Michael Persinger's lab that duplicates out-of-body experiences, near-death experiences, alien abductions, and other paranormal phenomena.
1443  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: April 05, 2016, 06:47:45 AM
What evidence shows that the brain is generating false memories?

The fact that NDE can be reproduced with a magnet is proof that its a bullshit memory...

You can watch a man wear a helmet with his eyes closed for a few minutes... then listen to him tell a story about how some alien came into the room, abducted him onto a spaceship... where he was anally probed, then returned to the room...  That shit did not happen!  You can watch the video and see it did not happen the way he remembers it!

The fact that he claims/feels/believes it to be a real/legitimate memory means absolutely jack shit

If you read my quote on Confabulation, you would realize that is a characteristic of a false memory

This is not some "imagined event", like pretending you went on a trip to Paris... this is a false memory... completely different
1444  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: April 05, 2016, 06:31:59 AM
Please check out the Thonnard paper and tell me about your evidence in detail. Thanks!

I'm not going to waste all day debunking this nonsense for you... use google... search for "(my claim) debunked", and read what the opposition has to say about it... it's that simple

PS. You did not provide a link, and when I google "Thonnard paper", I see nothing relevant

You might try searching the quote from the paper...

I posted a response before I saw any such quote... not sure why that post didn't load for me


The fact that NDE can be reproduced with a magnet is proof that its a bullshit memory...

You can watch a man wear a helmet with his eyes closed for a few minutes... then listen to him tell a story about how some alien came into the room, abducted him onto a spaceship... where he was anally probed, then returned to the room...  That shit did not happen!  You can watch the video and see it did not happen the way he remembers it!


http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-near-death-experience-isnt-proof-heaven/

http://skepdic.com/nde.html

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Near-death_experience#Scientific_explanation

Quote
P Z Myers similarly suggested that false memories may be generated as the brain tries to make sense of a time when consciousness did not exist.  Further wishful thinking may generate experiences confirming what a subject wants to believe and brain damage may prevent a subject recognising that the experience was a dream.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confabulation

Quote
In psychiatry, Confabulation (verb: confabulate) is a memory disturbance, defined as the production of fabricated, distorted or misinterpreted memories about oneself or the world, without the conscious intention to deceive. Individuals who confabulate present incorrect memories ranging from "subtle alterations to bizarre fabrications", and are generally very confident about their recollections, despite contradictory evidence
1445  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: April 05, 2016, 06:25:50 AM
Please check out the Thonnard paper and tell me about your evidence in detail. Thanks!

I'm not going to waste all day debunking this nonsense for you... use google... search for "(my claim) debunked", and read what the opposition has to say about it... it's that simple

PS. You did not provide a link, and when I google "Thonnard paper", I see nothing relevant
1446  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: April 05, 2016, 06:00:24 AM
Ummm no... that is incorrect

Science has shown that NDE are nothing more than a hallucination...
You have only presented rhetorical opinions but have not met your burden of proof.

I provided evidence that these memories are at least as real as valid memories.

Where is the evidence that these memories are all hallucinations?

You provided nothing but a story about 2 guys in a conspiracy to fool people... your article even mentions that these 2 assholes were friends for years before they pulled this scam (yes, I actually read links when people post them... unlike you, I prefer to be informed on all sides of every argument)

I provided scientific evidence on how to induce a NDE, and overwhelming evidence that all psychics are fraudulent
1447  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: April 05, 2016, 05:57:26 AM
Yes, all psychics are fraudulent... 100% of them... every psychic, to the man, is a con-artist... it is not real

If you do not believe me... go look up the James Randi foundation... they have a challenge, offering $1,000,000 if you can provide such evidence under scientific conditions... in over 50 years, nobody has even come close
Actually, Randi's prize is not a scientific way to investigate paranormal phenomena.
For one, applicants are legitimately afraid the prize is some sort of worthless trick.
Why are you trying to pass this off as science? If I do not believe you, I should be able to validate your claim myself; you should not need an authority (JREF) to back up your scientific evidence. Please, I provided evidence that these memories are at least as real as valid memories. Where is the evidence that these memories are all hallucinations?

See:
http://ncu9nc.blogspot.com/2012/05/randis-unwinnable-prize-million-dollar.html

That's ridiculous

James Randi is legitimate and would absolutely give out the prize if any paranormal claim was legit

Feel free to watch his videos... he has debunked 100% of applicants who didn't chicken out like Sylvia Brown (she did some research and realized it would be detrimental to her career to be debunked like he has done to many other frauds)

James Randi debunks Maureen Flynn (psychic)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSSPto8rvvs

James Randi Debunks Peter Popoff Faith Healer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7BQKu0YP8Y

James Randi exposes James Hydrick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlfMsZwr8rc

James Randi's fiery takedown of psychic fraud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcPuRaSEq1I

James Randi Debunks an Astrologer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r70HsEvNRck

James Randi demonstrates how to fake psychic powers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJQBljC5RIo


James Randi - Secrets of the Psychics Documentary (Full)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MFAvH8m8aI



As for being worth their time... ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY!!!11!!one!

Do you not realize how much fame and fortune they would have if they had scientific proof that they were the only legitimate psychic on the planet?!?!?
1448  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: April 05, 2016, 05:14:32 AM
Is even absurd because it seems that every time the brain blacks out the "soul" immediately goes out and don't have any recollection of that period, without any relevant exceptions.

I guess it must be a coincidence. Wink

...memories during near-death experiences (NDE) are AT LEAST AS REAL as valid memories...

Ummm no... that is incorrect

Science has shown that NDE are nothing more than a hallucination...

NDE can be produced using a magnetic field focused on the temporal lobe of your brain...

In a religious person, they see a while light, their family, "feel loved", etc...  In a non-religious person, they have all sorts of experiences, like alien abductions and anything their mind believes is real... this however does not make it legitimate by any means... quite the opposite

Michael Shermer Out of Body Experiment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCVzz96zKA0




Is there any 100% reliable evidence indicating that the Eisenbeiss case is an example of fraud?

Yes, all psychics are fraudulent... 100% of them... every psychic, to the man, is a con-artist... it is not real

If you do not believe me... go look up the James Randi foundation... they have a challenge, offering $1,000,000 if you can provide such evidence under scientific conditions... in over 50 years, nobody has even come close

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge

Quote
Refusals to be tested

On Larry King Live, March 6, 2001, Larry King asked psychic Sylvia Browne if she would take the challenge and she agreed. Randi appeared with Browne again on Larry King Live on September 3, 2001 and she again accepted the challenge. However, she refused to be tested and Randi kept a clock on his website recording the number of weeks that have passed since Sylvia accepted the challenge without following through. Eventually the clock was replaced with text stating that "over 5 years" had passed
1449  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: April 05, 2016, 03:52:13 AM
Stolen by the Church (the institution, not the building, the church) is how you described Christians life. I was never obligated to pay anything to the Church, so I could not say that I was stolen in any way. This was never about the moeny, maybe except in some periods of the Middle-Ages, but the money was reinvested somewhere, so it wasn't a pure robbery.

Because the church doesn't ask for your money?  They do every time they have a service... some churches keep records of how much your earn vs how much you tithe, and will have yearly meetings to discuss if you have paid them enough

I suppose all the gold and marble and paintings and precious artifacts in the Vatican were gifts from God?

I don't even know what that pretty blue marble looking stuff is on the wall, but I bet it's as expensive as everything else in that first photo... that is definitely 24k gold, and probably half a ton (seriously)












And for the finale... the Vatican Museum has a "gold room"... covered entirely in gold




What the fuck does the Vatican need all that gold for?

That has to be trillions of dollars worth of gold
1450  Other / Politics & Society / Re: College Implements Gender Neutral Bathrooms on: April 05, 2016, 03:38:16 AM
What a waste of time and money.

Really, could've invested that money so much better but nope. Decided it'd be best to put it towards a fucking bathroom in which everyone can go into.

Here's what it should be: Male bathroom and Female bathroom.

Whatever the fuck your sex is, you go into that bathroom! There are ONLY 2 genders that exist and you need to go into the one that was assigned at birth.

Of course, if you have all this surgery done to make you look like you are the opposite sex then go into the opposite bathroom. No need to bitch and complain to get a *special* bathroom, just for you.

Just don't go into a bathroom because you feel one day you're a man but the next you're a female. Just be grateful you were even assigned a gender and thus have a life - it's a gift you should cherish not complain about.

I fear you didn't actually bother yourself to watch the video in the OP

The college is not installing a third restroom... there is no money being spent...

They are converting all the current male/female restrooms into unisex restrooms... they will have new labels of "bathroom with urinals", and "bathroom without urinals" instead of male vs female... new concept man



This is what happens when you try to discriminate... you get shit like this in response...

Cities in several states passed anti-discrimination laws... religitards in state congress' overruled the anti-discrimination laws (because they are fucking retarded as always)... so... next step is no more gender identity at all for restrooms... good luck making that illegal
1451  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: April 05, 2016, 02:43:02 AM
Everyone has a different path to take in life. In the later posts of the Atheism and Health thread I explained my path and the logic that led me to reject atheism as false. I wish you good fortune on your journey.

How exactly do you reject atheism as false?

Atheism does not posit any claims... it can be neither true nor false...

Atheism, in its most simple form is, "I don't believe you, show me some better evidence"... How can that be false?
1452  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: April 05, 2016, 02:18:53 AM
Why did Moloch just post an embarrassing all-caps reply shouting at me and telling me that he refuses to read what I wrote? At least he had the dignity to delete it after the fact! I appreciate that! Even if my statement is not true for ALL atheists, it is certainly true for the atheist in question, namely Moloch; perhaps that is why he has deleted his post; he knew that it was true as it applies specifically to him:

Atheists think of life as beginning at birth and ending in death. They have not yet learned to think of it as a continuity such as the cycle of a piston stroke in an expansion-contraction engine--yet one is as continuous as the other.

All who reject gods are typically accepting the idea that nature is indifferent to our individual existence (as evidenced by the existence of death).

OP made a bold claim of physicalism, the existence of death is implied as compelling evidence in favor of atheism:
Quote
  Sorry to tell you, but everything seems to force [you, i.e. anyone] to conclude that you were nothing for an eternity and are going to be nothing again for another.

How does the OP know that nature is indifferent to our individual existence? What makes him the authority? Has he experienced what he is talking about? And how can the OP possibly claim that something (awareness) came from eternal nothing?

You don't know shit about atheism

Please quit pretending you know anything about atheists

Anyone who claims, "atheists think"... (anything)... is wrong 100% of the time (in addition to being an ignorant hypocritical asshole)

I wouldn't even begin to presume that all christians think alike... only half of them even believe the story of the garden of eden is fact, the other half believe it is a metaphor...

I certainly wouldn't put words in someone else's mouth... telling them what they think... that's something an idiot might do
1453  Other / Politics & Society / Re: International Elite Tax Dodging Conspiracy Leak on: April 05, 2016, 01:56:35 AM
Quote from: My Chemical Romance
They're gonna clean up your looks
With all the lies in the books
To make a citizen out of you
Because they sleep with a gun
And keep an eye on you, son
So they can watch all the things you do

Because the drugs never work
They're gonna give you a smirk
'Cause they got methods of keeping you clean
They're gonna rip up your heads,
Your aspirations to shreds
Another cog in the murder machine
1454  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: April 05, 2016, 01:44:59 AM
Gays aren't normal. Being normal mean that are like the majority. You're doing the confusion between being unormal and being discrimated. That's not because I said that they were not normal that they should be discriminated. That's another story, not the point of this subject. Seen by the way that they're not how the human was intented, they're not normal. Also, we're not animals, so comparing ourselves with them is not the best thing to do. Finally, these same animals reproduct themselves, even if gays, they just don't say in couple with their faggot boyfriend !

Are you retarded?

Anything that isn't in the majority is not normal and should be discriminated against?  What the fuck?  Where do you idiots find this bullshit?

So... if you are left-handed... fuck you... if you have freckles or red hair, fuck you... if you are black or Jewish, fuck you... if you are gay, fuck off... if you wear glasses, you deserve to die

You really need to re-think your game-plan... you just made an enemy of basically everyone... Are you in the KKK?


If you think homosexuality isn't natural... here is a link to a documentary that you won't watch, which explains everything you don't understand
Animal Homosexuality Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYdcvRe7ox8

Two things that don't fit in the same universe:
1. evolution;
2. homosexuality;
... except if there is corruption of the system, and law-breaking of foundational physics.

That is equivalent to saying that color-blind people don't fit in the same universe... everyone is different in some way... get over yourself asshole

Just because a character trait doesn't increase sperm count or whatever your standard is... does not make it wrong, it only makes you wrong... and a bigot

I suppose it will have to be explained to you before you will even be able to start to grasp it.

Evolution designs things with a purpose. The purpose is to expand and extend life. Heterosexuality extends and expands life. Homosexuality doesn't. Homosexuality doesn't fit in a universe that is built by evolution, except in a corrupt way.

You sound like you are hitting the bottle again.

Why are you such an asshole that you have to start every post with something equivalent to, "you are stupid so let me explain it to you"? (Way to represent christianity in a negative light asshole... WWJD motherfucker?)

1) Evolution does not design anything... you don't understand what evolution is

B) Evolution is based on 2 simple principles... random changes, both good and bad... and natural selection/survival of the fittest, which weeds out (most) of the bad traits, leaving mostly good traits

This does not mean that there are no bad traits, like colorblindness for example... 8% of men are colorblind, yet it's not bad enough to be 0%...

How does colorblindness fit into God creating perfect humans?

Homosexuality is the same thing... it doesn't help survival, but its really not enough of a hindrance to weed it out of the population...

Then, when you mix in thousands of years where gays were openly hated and murdered... they were forced into hiding, marrying women, having children, spreading their gay genes... it's really your own fault there are so many gays... if christians hadn't forced them to marry women and have children, there would be half as many homosexuals

If you didn't hate faggots so much, there would be fewer of them... the irony is thick


Quote from: Eminem
Have you ever been hated or discriminated against?
I have, I've been protested and demonstrated against
Picket signs for my wicked rhymes, look at the times
Sick as the mind of the motherfucking kid that's behind
All this commotion emotions run deep as ocean's exploding
Tempers flaring from parents just blow 'em off and keep going
Not taking nothing from no one give 'em hell long as I'm breathing
Keep kicking ass in the morning and taking names in the evening
Leave 'em with a taste as sour as vinegar in they mouth
See they can trigger me, but they'll never figure me out
Look at me now, I bet ya probably sick of me now ain't you momma?
I'mma make you look so ridiculous now
1455  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: April 05, 2016, 01:34:03 AM
Gays aren't normal. Being normal mean that are like the majority. You're doing the confusion between being unormal and being discrimated. That's not because I said that they were not normal that they should be discriminated. That's another story, not the point of this subject. Seen by the way that they're not how the human was intented, they're not normal. Also, we're not animals, so comparing ourselves with them is not the best thing to do. Finally, these same animals reproduct themselves, even if gays, they just don't say in couple with their faggot boyfriend !

Are you retarded?

Anything that isn't in the majority is not normal and should be discriminated against?  What the fuck?  Where do you idiots find this bullshit?

So... if you are left-handed... fuck you... if you have freckles or red hair, fuck you... if you are black or Jewish, fuck you... if you are gay, fuck off... if you wear glasses, you deserve to die

You really need to re-think your game-plan... you just made an enemy of basically everyone... Are you in the KKK?


If you think homosexuality isn't natural... here is a link to a documentary that you won't watch, which explains everything you don't understand
Animal Homosexuality Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYdcvRe7ox8

Two things that don't fit in the same universe:
1. evolution;
2. homosexuality;
... except if there is corruption of the system, and law-breaking of foundational physics.

That is equivalent to saying that color-blind people don't fit in the same universe... everyone is different in some way... get over yourself asshole

Just because a character trait doesn't increase sperm count or whatever your standard is... does not make it wrong, it only makes you wrong... and a bigot
1456  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Can you feel the Bern? on: April 04, 2016, 11:12:20 PM
My grandma feels the bern. My dog feels the bern. My genitals feel the bern. Go Bernie! Cheesy

A great reminder of why humans should always use protection when sharing the same animal...

Do all Trump supporters have sex with animals, or just both of your families?

I didn't even realize Trump was running on a legalize bestiality platform... is this new, or did I simply overlook it?
1457  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: April 04, 2016, 11:06:17 PM
Gays aren't normal. Being normal mean that are like the majority. You're doing the confusion between being unormal and being discrimated. That's not because I said that they were not normal that they should be discriminated. That's another story, not the point of this subject. Seen by the way that they're not how the human was intented, they're not normal. Also, we're not animals, so comparing ourselves with them is not the best thing to do. Finally, these same animals reproduct themselves, even if gays, they just don't say in couple with their faggot boyfriend !

Are you retarded?

Anything that isn't in the majority is not normal and should be discriminated against?  What the fuck?  Where do you idiots find this bullshit?

So... if you are left-handed... fuck you... if you have freckles or red hair, fuck you... if you are black or Jewish, fuck you... if you are gay, fuck off... if you wear glasses, you deserve to die

You really need to re-think your game-plan... you just made an enemy of basically everyone... Are you in the KKK?


If you think homosexuality isn't natural... here is a link to a documentary that you won't watch, which explains everything you don't understand
Animal Homosexuality Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYdcvRe7ox8
1458  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: April 04, 2016, 11:00:20 PM
Donald Trump's Huge Campaign Announcement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO-1ePYypdU

Trouble is, it becomes pretty clear half 'way through the clip that the voice is Jimmy Kimmel's.

You're dumb, that's definitely not Jimmy Kimmel's voice... is that Jimmy Kimmel's face doing the speaking as well?

It's clearly an impersonator, and it's certainly not Jimmy... wow... April Fool's
1459  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: April 04, 2016, 10:44:49 PM
Science is religion. How can you tell? Over the last 300 years especially, many things of science have been found out. People have accepted them as truth. Then, later science found out that some of these things were not correct. So it is that people had believed something that was not correct.

Science is a religion of faith in the abilities of scientists to be able to find out the truth. Scientists often don't have the ability to find out the truth. But when people believe that they do, there is a religion of science going.

Same logic as your definition of atheism as a religion:

If science is religion, you're an atheist. How can you tell? There are thousands of religions and many more gods that exist (with our without followers today), and we can realistically expect that in our prehistoric past that there have been many times this number. Yet you believe in only one.

One definition of an atheist is that it is someone who does not believe in gods. To believe in only one of thousands of gods means that you're 99.9% atheist.

Therefore you are approximately an atheist, and as the number of gods that have ever been claimed to exist approaches infinity, your atheism approaches 100%.

There have been over 2870 Gods in recorded history (Moloch is on the list!)... from the books that survived the book burnings of the dark ages, etc

If you are an atheist with respect to 2869 out of 2870 Gods... you are an atheist... you do not believe in 99.97% of gods...
(and who the fuck knows why you believe last one)



I also find it incredibly dishonest for a person to claim the know for certain that their God exists, but the other 2869 gods are bullshit make-believe... seriously... get a fucking clue... not to mention you don't know jack shit about any of the other gods... not a single fucking one of them... you base everything on what your parents told you was true... who based it on their parents, etc... nobody actually bothered to stop and think, or check their facts
1460  Other / Politics & Society / International Elite Tax Dodging Conspiracy Leak on: April 04, 2016, 07:40:54 PM
In the largest leak in history... More than 1 million papers...

214,000 of the world's richest people have used this company (Mossack Fonseca)  to set up fake businesses to avoid paying taxes

Listen to the story on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3O0Ucq_EEo


Considering, only 63 people control half the wealth on the planet... 214,000 of the richest people dodging taxes is basically all the money
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