High forum art! With appropriate context restored, and some [explanatory notes inserted in bracketed red text—for I was too subtle]:European culture in 1808: [...nude statute of a beautiful woman, Pauline (Bonaparte) Borghese, in a classical pose as Venus...]Fun fact: Pauline had an affair with Paganini. [nullius now adds: A painting of Paganini with a beard was deliberately hereby selected. Paganini was a man. How manly? He fucked Napoleon’s sister.
For her part, the aristocratic voluptuary Venus usually had a taste for soldiers—warriors, as Nietzsche said: men of violence—but she loved men of violins, too!Oh, my: The subject line has a Nullian onion-layered multiplicity of meanings. Violence (done) to violins. Or: From violence, to violins. Either way bespeaks passion, in some sense. Paganini’s violins set Pauline on fire.
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Modern, democratic European culture Eurovision (like “Satoshi’s Vision”?) in 2014:[—snip image of countercultural arson against the arts: An androgynous bearded thing in women’s clothes, Conchita Wurst, holding the trophy for the 2014 “Eurovision Song Contest”—] If a similar competition as the "modern democratic Eurovision" would have existed back in 1808, do you really believe that "the people" would have voted for Paganini? I don't think so. Alas! I have been caught out with my cunning, and quite intentional attempt to slip by a juxtaposition of high culture and popular culture. I did that to be succinct, for I doubt that the unmitigated savages fine folks here would understand all the nuances of my point—not without a five thousand word essay that nobody would read. In lieu thereof, I will pose for you a question: Why are so many classical music pieces named after folk dances? Especially from the Baroque. Just for instance, the gigue (‘jig’). There are not a few J. S. Bach instrumental movements named “Gigue”, but who was dancing the jig to them? ;-) High culture and popular culture form a feedback loop... E.g., vide audi BWV 1011: Convenient legal download link outside the U.S., where this sound recording’s copyright has expired (DO NOT CLICK, IF YOU ARE IN THE “LAND OF THE FREE”!!), unfortunately globbed together as a single 25-minute MP3. The whole layout of the movements is derived from ballroom dances related to folk dances; and most of the movement names are somehow derived from folk dances: 7 movements: - Prélude
- Allemande
- Courante
- Sarabande
- Gavotte
- Gavotte
- Gigue
I should only believe in a god who would know how to dance. (My previous reference to IMSLP for WO folks.)[ed. I think there's even a realistic chance that some other singing bearded woman would have won the competition in 1808 anyway] Zeroth of all, that is not a “bearded woman”: It is a man in woman’s clothes. And first of all, no. Not outside of a circus-style freak show—though strictly speaking, that may be anachronistic when considering 1808. Either you have a terribly low opinion of commoners, or your view of history has been distorted by postmodern pseudohistory. Orwell’s observation was astute: “Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.”Now, given that my example of today’s pop-“culture” was Conchita Wurst, I will draw on a German counterexample. I think that way back when, the popular “Eurovision” of guildsmen was embodied by the long and illustrious tradition of the Master Singer—which in turn inspired high-cultural works. (I have not reviewed any of the audio downloads from that page—of which there is currently only one small clip; I cannot attest the quality thereof.) Other examples, not dissimilar, could be drawn from other social strata, and other European countries; parallels could be drawn from not a few non-European cultures.
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is dead.
mindrust was right.
We should have sold everything at $4,000 like he did to save all this heartbreak. Well, I learned a lesson: Totally panic-dumping Bitcoin may portend randomly attacking someone who is aggrieved at the disappearance of a friend—attacking him for being aggrieved—when that someone who has never personally offended him, has always been friendly toward him. Now, that was “pulling a mindrust!” I suppose that it is a matter of character. JJG was more right than he knew!Doubly sad that I didn’t buy mindrust’s coins. If I had, I would offer them back to him later at a moderate penalty for the panic. I almost want to give him some Bitcoin, a trivial amount, just to stop him from being a nocoiner. My problem is that in a few years, that “trivial amount” may look like jojo’s old $13/BTC sales. Yes, I hoard. Gotta be careful in helping out nocoiners too much because frequently they got to being nocoiners for a reason. [—snip important context; I am intentionally cherry-picking to show, “more right than he knew”—]
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Shapeshift was a victim of success: Too easy to use, too popular, too trusted in both the Monero and Zcash communities... I think that they came under heavy pressure. What I write is being watched very closely. Please give us time.
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... The equipment and software did not malfunction and all ballots were properly tabulated. However, the clerk accidentally did not update the software used to collect voting machine data and report unofficial results.
Like many counties in Michigan, Antrim County uses the Dominion Voting Systems election management system and voting machines (ballot tabulators.) The county receives programming support from Election Source. Tabulators are programmed to ...
... The software did not cause a misallocation of votes; it was a result of user human error. Even when human error occurs, it is caught during county canvasses. ...https://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127--544676--,00.html So it was the Clerk's fault, "human error", and not the software's fault, because the software was not "updated" by the clerk, so the software was wrong, but it wasn't the software's fault..
Funny the software should need "updated" just a day or 2 before the election for it to not be totally incorrect, or, for it not to somehow completely skew all race results unsuspiciously to the left.. Anybody who imagines that voting be important (as I don’t) should dig through the archives of the RISKS Digest for decades of discussion about the RISKS of voting machines, voting machine software, human error, etc., etc. Voting systems have been a longtime major focus there. I also expect that RISKS will probably carry discussion of what is now happening in the United States; you may want to contribute, if you have a mind for computer security. (PrimeNumber7 particularly may like this, if he’s not already a secret subscriber. Unfortunately, I myself have not followed it for some few years.) RISKS Digest: Forum on Risks to the Public in Computers and Related Systems:https://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/Oh, the RISKS of being catless! 😿RISKS is an old-school computer security thing, published since 1985 and known to anybody who is serious these matters. It is sufficiently “notable” that it has a lamentably inadequate Wikipedia page: It is a moderated forum concerned with the security and safety of computers, software, and technological systems. Security, and risk, here are taken broadly; RISKS is concerned not merely with so-called security holes in software, but with unintended consequences and hazards stemming from the design (or lack thereof) of automated systems. Other recurring subjects include cryptography and the effects of technically ill-considered public policies. Highlighting is thereby added to subjects that should be of particular interest to denizens of the Bitcoin Forum. I should catch up, and see what they’ve been saying about cryptocurrency—I would guess, probably tearing up an awful lot of RISKy bad code. Because idiots want their dancing pigs! My previous mention of RISKS on this forum: On the other hand, I could say that people/users can be blame too for this inexplicable continuous hacking & bad news. Why? Simply because most of them don't want projects that are slow on production. They only think about the "hype" without realizing that there is a proper flow for conducting new features. They passively pushes the developers/coders to do an early releases that have greater chances for bugs and errors. This is a very common thing on some projects here in bctalk  This is what RISKS-subscriber types used to call “dancing pigs”. People will not pay for correct, reliable, secure things. People will not wait for them, either. They want their dancing pigs, and they want them now! |
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As thereby implied, WhiteManWhite is trying to go over mprep’s head now. Moй зaпpoc Teймocy yжe oтпpaвлeн, я ждy eгo oтвeт и peшeниe, нo пoкa oн oфф лaйн. So much for “the moderator will judge”. OK. Posting an image without credit is not a valid reason for negative trust.  Unfortunately, I didn't see Theymos answer, apparently he is busy or there is some other reason. And I respect your opinion. Ah, ah, W-man W. Your attention whoring to the big man is pitiable. Note: For the benefit of Meta readers, I tried watching this video with all audio and subtitles disabled. It is still funny that way, albeit more more funnier if fully understood! It does have subtitles in a bunch of languages.I would guess that theymos/Sergey has no time for your two-faced antics. He hired staff to deal with these matters. mprep is competent to handle this. Unless you have strong reasons which you lack, why would you expect for theymos to pay attention to you? Protip: Red-tagging for insults is just asking for more insults. And if you try to insult me with Youtube videos, then I may find it amusing to speak to you in a language that you may be capable of understanding—by which I do not mean the beautiful Russian language! But that is off-topic on this thread. :-)
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I was hoping, if I lost, that it would be clear enough for me to just pay up by now..
But I don't think it is, and shittily I think it might be a while yet.. Same here. I have been wanting to settle my bet with theymos, and then take a real forum break to catch up on some urgent IRL stuff. Famous last words.So, eddie... Maybe America is a primitive banana republic where people can’t count? ;-) National sovereignty for wildlings? I mean really, you must be redpilled on IQ no? One may imagine that someday soon, perhaps the Chinese may be so magnanimous as to fix this for you. The difference that you would notice would be a change from an inefficient Communist government that pretends to be Capitalist, to an efficient Capitalist government that pretends to be Communist. :-/ Quite happy that Trump atleast BTFO the pollsters.. Indeed, at least it is fun to see the liberals get antsy. I am confident that Trump will trump the odds to win my bet for me. —And if he doesn’t, then I will happily pay 0.01 BTC to the NCLA, then just not give a fuck about who your president is. Meanwhile, I am bringing popcorn to watch the liberals squirm. Trump stuff always makes for an exciting show, one way or another.
PrimeNumber7, eddie13, thanks for your thoughtful replies. I began writing responses to those two posts, but did not yet finish them. For eddie, here is a part (transplanted to WO where my thought started on that— n.b. that alas, I am not actually following WO now; at this point, I must be at least a hundred pages behind). philipma1957, you simply don’t remember that over a month ago, I already answered your same essential proposition in WO. And accusing me of not remembering history is not worth more than “LOL”. |
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From Politics & Society:Where do you think it went wrong nulli?
Giving non-property owners the right to vote? Giving women, young, minorities, recent immigrants, non english speakers, etc. the right to vote? Or was it just doomed from the start? Dang, eddie. Did you pwn my computer and read the draft, file modification time 2020-10-12, of this thing that I seem to have not actually posted to the Wall Observer?
—BEGIN QUOTATION—by nullius • st_mtim = 2020-10-12 17:58:07.057600524 +0000Minimally revised on grounds of perfectionism.
[—a quoted quip about idiots taking IQ tests—]Immodest proposal: Only smart people should be allowed to take IQ tests, to learn to read, or to vote. Every one being allowed to learn to read, ruineth in the long run not only writing but also thinking. Only people working for a private income should be allowed to vote. No representation without taxation. I disagree in principle with basing rights and privileges on taxation. Anyway, this presents an obvious practical problem: If people working for private income vote for a government that abolishes the income tax, then upon what principle should suffrage be based? Historically, besides heritable class status, the single most effective guarantor of voter quality was a real property ownership requirement. People whose wealth is invested in illiquid, immovable property within a jurisdiction tend to think more long-term; and most especially, people who own their own homes (in contradistinction to investment properties) have the most to lose from bad government. Liquid, fungible, or easily liquidatable wealth, i.e. capital is NOT comparable. If your personal wealth is only invested in the markets, then it is just too easy to pick up and move. Naturally, I think that such a requirement must logically exclude mortgaged properties, which (especially in today’s society) are effectively rented from the bank. In the United States, which has lamentably lacked legal class distinctions from its inception, real property ownership was a common requirement in the beginning. Obviously, it was insufficient. In Europe, class distinctions also proved insufficient. Perhaps the whole concept of democracy should be questioned—but I digress... Of course, all of this discussion is otiose. No jurisdiction with universal suffrage will ever have a voting majority vote to restrict the franchise; expansion of the franchise is a one-way ratchet which cannot be undone except by total “régime change”. Moreover, in a world in which such objectively important criteria as reading tests (!) can be deemed “racist” (!!) by the world’s historic and histrionic leaders at Making The World Safe For Democracy, this is just the sort of [...draft abruptly ends here; a cat must have knocked over my computer, or something...]
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As for the rest of eddie’s list, it is more or less correct—albeit not necessarily for the reasons that liberals with knee-jerk reactions would assume— and albeit incomplete. For if votes are allowed, then votes should be dear! Of what value is a thing so cheap that it is just given away to every precious snowflake? Universal suffrage is vote inflation. Making everybody “free” by giving everybody a vote is like making everybody “rich” by printing lots of money.
Yes, that is an original observation on my part. Analogy credit: nullius.
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I just had to stop by and comment on this. It echoes something that I wrote for WO a few weeks ago, but didn’t post; it is symbolic, on so very many levels...
European culture in 1808: Pauline Borghese (née Bonaparte; Napoleon’s sister) poses as Venus with an apple. Fun fact: Pauline had an affair with Paganini.European culture was vibrant. —With vibrato.
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Modern, democratic European culture Eurovision (like “Satoshi’s Vision”?) in 2014:
Protip for the unmitigated savages: Most, albeit not all of the images that I post in the Wall Observer and elsewhere are intentionally hotlinked from Wikimedia Commons. Among other benefits, this provides an implicit lead on where to find more information about an image.
That which can be learned, must be earned. Anyone who is possessed of more curiosity than the most abject dullard, and who is not a mental defective, can easily figure out how to turn the image URLs into URLs for the the pertinent Wikimedia File: pages. Those, in turn, provide proper identification—and oftentimes, direct links to the relevant Wikipedia pages in multiple languages. In particular, if* you love a painting or statue that I embed from Wikimedia Commons, then there is never any need for reverse image search drudgery: Hit the quote button, look at the URL, and hop over to the wacky wiki which, albeit a Communist propaganda cesspool, does have more information identifying these artworks, their histories, and the (mostly long-dead) great artists who created them.
(* “Focus on the IF.”)
A refined gourmet feast should be served with an appropriate sauce. However, those who are not sufficiently motivated to pursue life’s finer things just do not deserve them. Hiding the sauce in the URL is too low a low-pass filter, but it hereby suffices for most purposes. If you smell the tantalizing repast, but you just scroll on past, then no sauce for you! |
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Not sure why all of those so-called plagiarized posts by icopress is still there...
- AFAIK, it should be counted/reported as off-topic/spam since it has nothing to do with Wall Observer's thread [unless I'm missing something]. Yes, you are missing something. Please don’t opine about the Wall Observer unless you have been there. (And don’t bother the forum moderators with noise reports over this.) Actually, I myself had missed something which I discovered just a few minutes ago, when for the first time ever, I reported a WO post to the forum moderators: See for yourself. Click the “Report to moderator” link on any post in the Wall Observer. Obviously, you would see the same message if you tried to report icopress’ posts. So, yes, there are officially “ Special Wall Observer rules” in bright red letters. (What those rules are is another matter.) WO is a sort of a forum within a forum. [...] It sort of has its own rules, which can only be discovered by lurking there for awhile. |
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@mprep, @Vod: FYI/LOL. :-/ I think the moderator will judge who is right and who is not.
Were you only going to respect his opinion if he was in your favor? I respect any fair decision of the administration BT forum. As thereby implied, WhiteManWhite is trying to go over mprep’s head now. Moй зaпpoc Teймocy yжe oтпpaвлeн, я ждy eгo oтвeт и peшeниe, нo пoкa oн oфф лaйн. So much for “the moderator will judge”. FYI also, in pertinent discussion, the local retards in the Russian forum have been passing around links to Russian copyright laws. (The fine Russian folks over there have been telling them that they are retarded.) If theymos does not comply with WMW’s desire to overrule mprep, then I would not be too surprised if this escalates into one of those wackjob reports to the police, or something of that nature. WMW already hints at his desire to foment base and baseless legal trouble for forum users. Although such Internet forum sabre-rattling is oftentimes just that, it warrants watching. Moй зaпpoc Teймocy yжe oтпpaвлeн, я ждy eгo oтвeт и peшeниe, нo пoкa oн oфф лaйн. [...] Tyпaя твoя гoлoвa, Taк тeбя видит Teймoc:
For the record, since WMW issued me negative trust feedback for using Bad Words™, I have cranked up the insults (even in English) to extremes exponentially exceeding thermonuclear TMAN tier:...the son-of-the-dog-who-fucked-his-dirty-whore-mother who started this mess is a known DT manipulator...
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he is lucky i am not the one he scammed. i will have spammed your thread with info about your scam every few hours. and spam all forums till everyone is aware that you are a thief
That is a good idea actually. We have to make sure people are warned so they can not make anymore victims. Quoted for reference to both of your admissions that what you cannot achieve with the meritorious arguments that you lack, you attempt by abusive flooding of this forum (and others!) with noise, and bumping the hell out of this thread even when you don’t have anything new to say. Spam, hereby narrowly construed as shouting essentially the same thing over and over again ad maximam nauseam, should be deleted by the moderators. That is a service to both parties to the dispute, insofar as fair-minded third parties need to be able to read the substantive posts on the thread without wading through spam. Spam on this thread has already wasted a ridiculous amount of my time, and that of others.
We have just submitted our 6 page, 2100 word report with 27 screenshots to the mediator. They have many cases to rule on and this one has an enormous amount of information, so we ask for your patience while this is resolved. It is also possible they will need some additional information from either us or the OP prior to making a ruling. We will update the community with the results. Thank you.
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Dear Wohats Peeps: Alas, I am hopelessly behind on the Wall; thus, I do not know if this has yet been mentioned. But just in case, I must in conscience give y’all a heads-up that some lunatic is trying to get users banned for posting unattributed and/or copyrighted images to the Wall Observer.Bitcoin Forum > Other > Meta > Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed
Plagiarism is bad—the concept mustn’t be diluted by confusion with nonplagiarism[—stuff about some WO image posts—]
For this serious violation, this user should be banned
- This is not plagiarism at all. As explained below, there is a difference between plagiarism and improper attribution. [...]
- The allegation nonsensically throws in a statement about the “copyright holder”. Plagiarism has nothing whatsoever to do with copyright, as I have said repeatedly in many of my posts; e.g.: [...]
I told that dumb wanker that a dog fucked his mother... Пёc ёб твoю́ мaть. ...wherefore he tagged me for insulting him. I guess that he is not a big fan of free speech. Trust summary for nulliusUntrusted feedbackThese ratings are from people who are not in your trust network. They may be totally inaccurate. | WhiteManWhite | 2020-11-04 | Reference | Idiot and a dirty bastard. When instead of arguments, he spews insults from his mouth. |
Eh, пoшёл нa xyй [literally ‘go away onto dick’—idiomatic equivalent of, “fuck off”, but harsher]. In a thread where some retards are passing around links to Russian copyright law (as if that’s relevant here!), and fine Russian folks are telling them that they are retarded, I just had to drop by and tell WhiteManWhite in no uncertain terms what I really think of him. Whether or not you can read the post, I highly recommend the Youtube link for some lulz at how hard I pwned this nutcase.Taм был дaльний зaxoд c пoдвыпoдвepтoм. He yймeтcя никaк cyчьe лayдoвcкoe плeмя в дeлeжкe кopытa.
Чyвaк дaжe нe зaмopaчивaлcя c пoдcчeтoм, пpoxoжy ли нa гoлocoвaниe или нeт бeз нoyнeйм шaйки oт лayды. Я пoмню чтo oни пaчкoй пoявилиcь cpaзy пocлe пepвыx тepoк пpo DT и pyccкoй лoкaли. Ho видимo кypить мaнyaлы пepeд зaявлeниями, этo нe для гocпoд y кoтopыx кeпкa, пoxoдy, пoджимaeт oблacть нaxoждeния мeжyшнoгo гaнглия.
Я cкaжy этo тaк, чтoбы ты мoг пoнять. (Boзмoжны нeкoтopыe нeтoчнocти) Hиxyёбышeк, твoй лoбкoвый гoлoc был ycлышaн, нaдeюcь ты нe дyмaeшь чтo тeбe coйдeт c pyк твoя бoлтoвня? B oтличии oт тeбя гoлyбчик, я нe зaнимaюcь oбъeбaтeльcтвoм млaдшиx paнгoв, я oпepиpyю фaктaми. Я зa пpaвдy. AXУExaл мoй aвтoбyc, Блядcкaя пoмaдa! Oтвeчaю тeбe здecь, тoлькo пoтoмy чтo, ты пытaeшьcя yйти oт paзгoвopa дeйcтвyя пo пpинципy “Haxyй c пляжa бeз пaнaмки”. Cвoй нищeбpóдcкий oтвeт ты мoжeшь oпyбликoвaть в мoeй тeмe. Пиздapики нa вoздyшнoм шapикe, и eщe я пoлyчил твoй oтвeт и пoнял чтo тeбe cлeдyeт вытaщить xyй изo pтa (плoxo cлышнo). He зaбyдь пocмoтpeть этo Youtube видeo, кoтopoe oтpaжaeт твoю нaтypy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl_pxCAcJz4Not that the proud bearers of the WO Hat would be worried about such nonsensical attacks, but I should probably mention that mprep seems not exactly about to start banning y’all. Re: Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as neededBelow is the answer by mprep (Global Moderator). 33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.[e] - Does this rule apply to images? AFAIK no, it doesn't apply to images.
Thank you, can I quote you? Feel free.
I've quoted this in the OP. Nonetheless, I should probably also mention that the son-of-the-dog-who-fucked-his-dirty-whore-mother who started this mess is a known DT manipulator who has red-tagged one person for posting unattributed images to WO, and red-tagged another for using Bad Words™. Maybe you want to pay attention to that.
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Doublethink: An illustration of the liberal mind, its hypocrisy, and its self-serving delusions:The trumpening is happening...
[—wild conspiracy theories about Trump—]
[—wild conspiracy theories about Trump—]
[—extremely wild conspiracy theories about Trump—]
Some "wonky" stuff going down..
Lol bro. [...] Got a link for your [] story? I observed the same phenomenon in 2016–17: Liberals who sneer at hard evidence of real conspiracies were insanely convinced that Russia controlled the election, and Trump stole it. Actually, they do this every day. It is just how their minds work.
Protip: If Trump had the balls to seize the presidency by some more or less not-quite-legal means, then in his first two years, he would have (a) completely sealed the border with Mexico, (b) deported a few zillion of the liberals’ very most favourite contributors to a vibrant American society and “culture” (newsflash: America never had a culture), (c) run through the entrenched Federal bureaucracy like a bull in a china shop, (d) otherwise given you genetically lachrymose liberals something real to cry about— something beyond grandstanding Tweets.Two examples of U.S. presidents who basically did whatever the fuck they wanted were Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Study the history of what they did to ram their ways through all opposition, and try to imagine how liberals would react if Trump were to do even a tiny fraction as much. Of course, I have cited two presidents whom liberals will never criticize in any way—even if one of them was from the Republican Party.
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Nullius is doing what he thinks is right, most disagree with him, Indeed. Anybody who supposes that I would prefer what is popular over what is right has not read even a single word that I have ever written, and probably doesn’t even know how to read. Their isn't really any "abuse" anymore.. (other than threats) The game rules are set, play your best match.. By all available evidence, a part of the “game rules” is to accuse people of trust system abuse. Sometimes, the accusations have a rational basis which can be explained with neither repetitious restatements of the labels on things, nor bare appeals to authority, nor chanting the “not related to a trading!!” mantra ad maximam nauseam. — Sometimes, not.Majority rules, algorithm rules.. Democracy is ochlocracy.
And yes, reporting shitposters is the right way to deal with it. Red trust is not. This has been discussed ad nauseam and it's one of the reasons why merit system exists. - I am quite well aware of why the merit system was created.
- Spam and shitposters still exist, despite the merit system (albeit in lesser quantity). I will make reasonable use of all tools at my disposal. If you dislike that, please convey your precious opinion >/dev/null.
- As stated below, I also reported that user’s shitpost. My report was marked as “Good”; and as you can verify for yourself, the post is gone. For you see: I do this and that, not this instead of that. What a difficult concept!
- As stated below, this occurred in the tech forum. Spammy shitposters SHALL NOT invade the tech forum. nullius says so. You wouldn’t understand.
Anyway, because you are a mature adult, and not a small-minded obsessive wrapped up in petty grudges, I must ask: What are your Very Important Thoughts on negative trust feedback for “fuck you” style insults, made by a DT manipulator who has numerically more inclusions (and more importantly, fewer exclusions) than I do? Please feel free to share.
nullius is not in DT. He's jumped the shark big time Half of the reason why I am still here at all is some mild amusement: Lo, this spectacle of a schoolyard social clique’s popular kids opining that a university professor has “jumped the shark”! —Metaphorically speaking: I am but an artist, and an amateur in the original sense of the word. Alas, you cannot share in the joke other than to serve as its butt; for perforce, your perceptions cannot reach beyond your little world. Why would I care about DT? Almost immediately after I returned to the forum in January 2020, I predicted that democratic DT would be an horrific mess. My contempt for DT is not sour grapes: It is my response after my foresight proved correct. And I have been consistently critical of democratic DT ever since then.
What do you think about this? Since seems nullius is over obsessive and triggered happy for doing such actions. Just for context, that particular shitposter had invaded the Development & Technology forum. I reported his post, and it was deleted by the moderators (together with my reply, as I myself requested). Standards are higher in the tech forum. The culture is quite different there than in Reputation. And although I have not been very active there lately, I am quite defensive of that forum. I report much more there, too—and I make my reports with a 100% accuracy score, knowing that the moderators are stricter there than anywhere else! Although I reserve the right to issue unmoderated negative trust feedback to spammers and shitposters anywhere, I am unlikely to bother outside the tech forum. Hell, if I were to apply the same standards everywhere, then I would need to tag at least 75% 99% of those who post to Off-topic, and at least 50% of those who post to Politics & Society. Do I have time for that? LOL. Bottom line: If you are an idiotic, spammy little shitposter, stay the out of the tech forum.I believe the trust system is not intended for this activities. Your opinions are duly noted, and filed under “ taken under advisement”. 🗑️ Share your thoughts about this guy's Yes, please share your thoughts about my Satanic reign of pure terror! |
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Taм был дaльний зaxoд c пoдвыпoдвepтoм. He yймeтcя никaк cyчьe лayдoвcкoe плeмя в дeлeжкe кopытa.
Чyвaк дaжe нe зaмopaчивaлcя c пoдcчeтoм, пpoxoжy ли нa гoлocoвaниe или нeт бeз нoyнeйм шaйки oт лayды. Я пoмню чтo oни пaчкoй пoявилиcь cpaзy пocлe пepвыx тepoк пpo DT и pyccкoй лoкaли. Ho видимo кypить мaнyaлы пepeд зaявлeниями, этo нe для гocпoд y кoтopыx кeпкa, пoxoдy, пoджимaeт oблacть нaxoждeния мeжyшнoгo гaнглия.
Я скажу это так, чтобы ты мог понять. (Возможны некоторые неточности) Нихуёбышек, твой лобковый голос был услышан, надеюсь ты не думаешь что тебе сойдет с рук твоя болтовня? В отличии от тебя голубчик, я не занимаюсь объебательством младших рангов, я оперирую фактами. Я за правду. АХУЕхал мой автобус, Блядская помада! Отвечаю тебе здесь, только потому что, ты пытаешься уйти от разговора действуя по принципу “Нахуй с пляжа без панамки”. Свой нищебро́дский ответ ты можешь опубликовать в моей теме. Пиздарики на воздушном шарике, и еще я получил твой ответ и понял что тебе следует вытащить хуй изо рта (плохо слышно). Не забудь посмотреть это Youtube видео, которое отражает твою натуру. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl_pxCAcJz4 |
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P.S., RMS Titanic sank. ;-)  Exactly! Point being: Take all of the precautions you like, and you can still sink your ship with one fuckup. Or lose your coins in a "boat accident"  Indeed, this is not the wrong thread for this: With transparent blockchains, if the coins that you own can be traced to you, then it can later be observed if they move. Publicly observed. By anyone in the world who wants to watch. (And if the coins cannot be traced to you, then this discussion is irrelevant.) Lying about losses in any kind of an official context could usually result in hard prison time. Lost coins are permanently unspendable; “lost” coins do not exist in Bitcoinland. If you are susceptible to boating accidents, it would be tragic to HoDL a privacy coin. Why, if you lose your keys, you cannot even provide your view keys on demand! Such loss. incoming_transfers available uses
sweep_all [...rinse, repeat at random times...] Bitcoiners have less to fear from boating accidents, and more to fear from getting hacked. [...] |
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All I can say right now is..
Come on baby, eddie's wallet needs this WIN!!
Must... Have... Coinz...
Still feeling 50/50 really..
I had begun to write a long essay re my epic charity bet with theymos, analysing (among other things) Trump’s chances, and calling it 50/50. Unfortunately, I did not have time to finish it timely. (Some other parts may still be relevant after this is over.) I know that I said somewhere else already, it’s a coin-flip. I may also have mentioned this before somewhere: To be exciting, this reality-TV show has all along been balanced on a knife’s edge. Trump’s rôle has always been to be the political underdog, who will either barely win—or barely lose. And the biased liberal media are indubitably full of shit; anybody who was comforted by them (or scared by them) is stupid. It was wise of me to take an even-odds bet on Trump. You, too.
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News: WhiteManWhite has abused the trust system by issuing negative feedback for insults.I have been awarded a red tag for speaking an insult worthy of a Russian TMAN!Summary: I told WhiteManWhite that a dog has fucked his mother. Because I am a literary artist, I did so using an “old-fashioned”, archaic form of common slang. [...] Trust summary for nulliusUntrusted feedbackThese ratings are from people who are not in your trust network. They may be totally inaccurate. | WhiteManWhite | 2020-11-04 | Reference | Idiot and a dirty bastard. When instead of arguments, he spews insults from his mouth. |
Eh, пoшёл нa xyй [literally ‘go away onto dick’—idiomatic equivalent of, “fuck off”, but harsher]. [...] With glosses hereby inserted in [bracketed red text]:Пёc ёб твoю́ мaть. [‘A dog has fucked your mother.’ Archaic form of a common expression that only means, “fuck your mother”.]
Just call me old-fashioned.
On the Wall to End WallsNot sure why all of those so-called plagiarized posts by icopress is still there...
- AFAIK, it should be counted/reported as off-topic/spam since it has nothing to do with Wall Observer's thread [unless I'm missing something]. Yes, you are missing something. Please don’t opine about the Wall Observer unless you have been there. (And don’t bother the forum moderators with noise reports over this.) WO is a sort of a forum within a forum. It is “self-moderated” by a theymos-appointed user whose position is tantamount to unofficial staff. Most of the posts there are way, way off the topic stated in its OP. It sort of has its own rules, which can only be discovered by lurking there for awhile. Fascinating fact: A few years ago, Lauda was a candidate for the Wall Observer’s “self-moderation” office that was won instead by infofront. Due to Lauda’s putative womanhood, her nomination triggered an insane tirade by r0ach—whose posts more usually consisted of theories about how the Jews invented Bitcoin to scam you. LOL. I myself have a reputation for posting classical and neoclassical nude sculptures and paintings— intentionally without overt identification, because people unmitigated savages who are too lazy to figure it out just don’t deserve to know; e.g.:Always timely. N.b. that the forum’s “NSFW” rules do apply on the Wall; fine-art paintings and sculptures are not “NSFW”, and I have always posted those anywhere that they fit the topic. My point is that it’s not “off-topic” on WO—not any more than all of the many posts by others of photos of women in bikinis or lingerie. It will take you awhile to understand what can be posted there. I think that icopress’ posts fit in well on the Wall. :-) —And if he were to wind up annoying anybody, then he would probably just get one of these: 250 btc buy wall on stamp @10550
sorry for off-topic  Thanks. I’ll save that for everybody who ever mentions, among other things, the American reality-TV “election” show—about which I was working on a P&S meta-complaint, when I delved into a minor tangent on Antifa. For this serious violation, this user should be banned
* Damn it, fellas, please do pour on some “sauce” unless you are trying to make a puzzle... |
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Local rules: In an exception to my usual rules, all users except for cryptohunter/CH-alts and Vispilio are allowed to post here (unless I kick someone out for real trolling). I will moderate the thread at my discretion, erring on the side of free discussion. Of course, the accused shall be accorded a fair and reasonable right of reply.In accord with forum rules, substantive discussion must be conducted in English here. I request that if any Russian is stated or quoted on this thread, translations or glosses be provided so that all readers can fully understand what is said.
⚠ Achtung! N.b., “negative trust feedback must be used only for trade risk” DTs: I have been awarded a red tag for speaking an insult worthy of a Russian TMAN!Summary: I told WhiteManWhite that a dog has fucked his mother. Because I am a literary artist, I did so using an “old-fashioned”, archaic form of common slang. I only did so after “instead of arguments”, he had ignored or insulted me over two cogent and substantive replies to him that I had made. Naturally, it also had not-nothing to do with the rude insults that he made to people who have Lauda in their trust lists. His response: Trust summary for nulliusUntrusted feedbackThese ratings are from people who are not in your trust network. They may be totally inaccurate. | WhiteManWhite | 2020-11-04 | Reference | Idiot and a dirty bastard. When instead of arguments, he spews insults from his mouth. |
Eh, пoшёл нa xyй [literally ‘go away onto dick’—idiomatic equivalent of, “fuck off”, but harsher]. Of course, not only is this unrelated to “trade risk”: It is unrelated to honesty and basic trustworthiness— and it is an abuse of the trust system to attack on my freedom of speech. The trust system is used for dirty words now!? Moreover, it is a clearly retaliatory tag made 2020-11-04 for the 2020-11-03 negative trust feedback that I had issued for defamation, trust system abuse, and generally dishonest behaviour (all of which I have used as bases for trust feedback before). On the excessively charitable presumption that democratic DT may not be a popularity contest for cheap hypocrites, I will now not hold my breath waiting for those ~ keys to hit their mark.
Prior history: My reaction the last time that somebody tried to dictate what words can be used on the forum.“Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo, cinaede ’mdayonliner’”Sadly, this being the Internet, I believe I ought explain the subject line. It translates idiomatically, “I will arsefuck and facefuck you, faggot ‘mdayonliner’”. Paraphrased from Catullus 16... QFT:I would have gone for this: 
Case history table of contents:I used insults “instead of” arguments? No, I used insults after arguments. —All posts are fully quoted, with no modifications except for clearly marked glosses.
In the plagiarism reporting thread, an important resource which should not be cluttered with this nonsense:Bitcoin Forum > Other > Meta > Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed
Plagiarism is bad—the concept mustn’t be diluted by confusion with nonplagiarism- This is not plagiarism at all. As explained below, there is a difference between plagiarism and improper attribution. No reasonable person would have read the posts as purporting in any way that icopress was the author of the images; thus, at worst, this was improper attribution (which I now see is remediated). —This is a subject that I have intended to address for awhile; I will do so below, more briefly than I had intended before.
- The allegation nonsensically throws in a statement about the “copyright holder”. Plagiarism has nothing whatsoever to do with copyright, as I have said repeatedly in many of my posts; e.g.:
“Open source” is only a copyright issue. Whereas the confusion of plagiarism and copyright violation is a pet peeve of mine, one which I believe is deliberately promulgated by the copyright lobby. Even the Cypherpunks Public License embodies this confusion, for which reason I have always disliked it.
For an extreme illustration of the difference in concepts: The complete works of William Shakespeare are in the public domain. You can legally copy them as much as you want, under any existing copyright law in the world. But if you claim Shakespeare’s work as your own, under the byline of your name, then you can and will be expelled from university, have your university degrees retroactively revoked, and/or be fired from any type of intellectual job. —And if you claim to be Shakespeare—not even the psychic reincarnation of Shakespeare, but William Shakespeare in the flesh!—then you should be committed to an asylum for the insane.
Lest anyone mistake that as merely my anticopyright opinion, here is the matching opinion of a well-known pro-copyright website, which properly distingushes between plagiarism and copyright issues:
Contrary to popular belief, the word plagiarism is not synonymous with copyright infringement. Not every incident of plagiarism is copyright infringement, especially when public domain works are involved. On the flip side, not every incident of copyright infringement is plagiarism, such as the alleged infringements of file sharers.
On a related note, not all reuse of copyrighted material is copyright infringement or plagiarism. Some uses are perfectly legal and ethical, thus getting them dubbed “fair use”.
However, on the Web, these terms are getting thrown around with reckless abandon. People, who often aren’t aware of the subtle nuances that separate the terms, use them in incorrect ways and cause confusion, often turning a legitimate complaint into a questionable matter.
[...you should read this...]
Thus, plagiarism is a very specific act and the term only means one thing. It is also, generally, considered to be a much more morally heinous act as it involves deception (lying to others about the origins of the work) and generally has a much greater impact on the copyright holder. - All three so-called “plagiarism” posts are image posts in the Wall Observer, with images that lacked attribution. If posting images without clear attribution to the Wall Observer were a bannable offence, then we must grant SwayStar123’s request to delete the Wall Observer thread (unedited OP), and ban the majority of users who have ever posted to WO.
- This false accusation of plagiarism is evidently intended for retaliation. It is a reprehensible abuse of the plagiarism report thread, which is an important resource for protecting the integrity of the forum community.
Yeah, obviously A-Bolt and WhiteManWhite are just victims .... I emphasized directly linked accounts
Plagiarism without author link and claim copyright holder33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.
User: icopress
The following is copied from the draft of a post that I had intended for the RegulusHR case, but never completed. I also intended to post this in the “hacker1001101001” case. (For the record, I think that RegulusHR was a shitposter, but not a plagiarist; “hacker” is a clear-cut plagiarist; and icopress is obviously neither.)On the Substance of PlagiarismTo avoid ad hominem counterarguments by people who dislike me personally, I think that I should borrow somebody else’s definition; and I will borrow it with proper attribution from “Defining and Avoiding Plagiarism: The WPA Statement on Best Practices”, Council of Writing Program Administrators (2003), pp. 1f., with my highlights added on wording that I deem relevant to the RegulusHR case: https://web.archive.org/web/20040102042235/http://www.wpacouncil.org/positions/WPAplagiarism.pdfWhat Is Plagiarism?
In instructional settings, plagiarism is a multifaceted and ethically complex problem. However, if any definition of plagiarism is to be helpful to administrators, faculty, and students, it needs to be as simple and direct as possible within the context for which it is intended.
Definition: In an instructional setting, plagiarism occurs when a writer deliberately uses someone else’s language, ideas, or other original (not common-knowledge) material without acknowledging its source.
This definition applies to texts published in print or on-line, to manuscripts, and to the work of other student writers.
Many current discussions of plagiarism fail to distinguish between:
1. submitting someone else’s text as one’s own or attempting to blur the line between one’s own ideas or words and those borrowed from another source, and
2. carelessly or inadequately citing ideas and words borrowed from another source.
Such discussions conflate plagiarism with the misuse of sources.
Ethical writers make every effort to acknowledge sources fully and appropriately in accordance with the contexts and genrres of their writing. A student who attempts (even if clumsily) to identify and credit his or her source, but who misuses a specific citation format or incorrectly uses quotation marks or other forms of identifying material taken from other sources, has not plagiarized. Instead, such a student should be considered to have failed to cite and document sources appropriately.
What are the Causes of Plagiarism and the Failure to Use and Document Sources Appropriately?
Students who are fully aware that their actions constitute plagiarism—for example, copying published information into a paper without source attribution for the purpose of claiming the information as their own, or turning in material written by another student—are guilty of academic misconduct. [...]
Students are not guilty of plagiarism when they try in good faith to acknowledge others’ work but fail to do so accurately or fully. These failures are largely the result of failures in prior teaching and learning: students lack the knowledge of and ability to use the conventions of authorial attribution.
I have hereby expended far more effort than necessary to address WhiteManWhite’s accusation, for, as aforesaid, I have been intending for awhile to clear up some common confusions on this forum: Plagiarism versus copyright violation, and plagiarism versus improper attribution. Neither is strictly relevant here; but WMW’s tortuously constructed accusation somehow tangentially invoked both, so I will take it as a felicitous opportunity to educate others. If necessary, I could draw on many other sources to support what I hereby say. The forum really needs to get its concepts straight. Plagiarism is bad—and the concept must not be diluted by confusion with things that are not plagiarism.
Trust summary for nulliusSent feedback| WhiteManWhite | 2020-11-03 | Reference | Made a false and blatantly nonsensical accusation of plagiarism to defame another user, with a demand that the user be banned, and issued false negative trust feedback on the same basis—all as a transparent retaliation for that user accusing him of multi-account trust system abuse (!). This is dishonest and hypocritical on so many levels, the audacity is astounding. Do not trust. |
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Guys, you are probably not paying attention to what I wrote earlier about the correspondence with the photos owner. - Please tell me, can I use them for republication on other resources? I will need to use the link to your resource as the original source and author?- yes, please link to the original source www.dietmareckell.com and claim copyright holder: © Dietmar EckellThis was not done! What else do I need to explain? You are probably not paying attention to anything that I said, or that LoyceV said—or to common sense. In summary: - Alleged copyright issues are altogether off-topic in this thread.
- Failure to use and cite sources appropriately is tangential to the topic of this thread. The issues are distinguished in the CWPA Statement of Best Practices that I quoted above; the CWPA is an American academic association, so I think that their standards should suffice for the forum. I myself think that icopress should provide better attribution, if and where feasible. I hereby advise him accordingly, without demanding that he be banned for making a WO pic-post that is no worse for attribution than numerous other such posts. (icopress, if the photographer is known and has a website, or if this information comes to be known, then please take a few moments to verify it, and add a name and link as a matter of custom and courtesy.)
- The Wall Observer, where icopress posted, has numerous images posted to it without attribution, or with inadequate attribution, by people who obviously don’t claim to have produced them. If you want to make sure that these images are all properly attributed, including every cat photo and animated GIF (inasmuch as sources can even be found—as oft they can be, with considerable effort*), please feel free to make a new Meta thread about this. (And if you ever want to harass me over my intentional habit of posting more or less famous public-domain artworks, without too-overt identification for the benefit of lazy rubes, then I will tell you to пoшёл нa xyй.)
- Your motive for bringing a false plagiarism accusation is transparent: 29 hours after icopress credibly accused you of being involved in multi-account abuse of the Default Trust system, you came here and declared:
Formatting is in the original:
For this serious violation, this user should be banned
A valid accusation should be evaluated on its merits, regardless of motivation. But given that your accusation is invalid and meritless on its face, it is obvious that you targeted icopress for revenge, carelessly cast about for something to throw at him, and then abused this thread for your grudge. You are lying when you say this:
I am sure that I do not look at any past merits, it is the user who should suffer the punishment they deserve. The rules are the same for everyone.
That is bad. I suggest that you should stop it.
* I once identified the original source for a photo that I like, after five hours of persistent searching—and sifting through the numerous blogs and photo sharing sites where it had been re-re-re-posted for years without attribution. Reverse image search engines brought the mountain of re-re-re-posts up to the top, and dropped the original source into an abyss of obscurity. Sometimes, I have given up. :-(
In icopress’ thread:Whoops. My apologies for continuing the off-topic discussion on the plagiarism report thread, an important resource which should not be cluttered with this. My initial reply thereby is too long to quote here reasonably. It is relevant. Now, since WhiteManWhite is copying his nonsense between threads... [...quoted in full above...]
Redirected from the other thread, where it is off-topic:~
I think the moderator will judge who is right and who is not. - Unlike you, the forum’s staff are not blithering idiots. They know the difference between plagiarism and alleged copyright issues, which you persist in conflating. They also know how the forum rules apply to images.
- Newbie protip: Your quote failed proper attribution guidelines. FTFY:
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I think the moderator will judge who is right and who is not.
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With glosses hereby inserted in [bracketed red text]:Whoops
You don't follow the of information stream, = I am busy, and a common злoдéй [‘miscreant’] such as you is not worth following. Пёc ёб твoю́ мaть. [‘A dog has fucked your mother.’ Archaic form of a common expression that only means, “fuck your mother”.]
Just call me old-fashioned.
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Trust summary for nulliusUntrusted feedbackThese ratings are from people who are not in your trust network. They may be totally inaccurate. | WhiteManWhite | 2020-11-04 | Reference | Idiot and a dirty bastard. When instead of arguments, he spews insults from his mouth. |
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