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[DaRude]

The only reason why ppl are talking about all the legalities like certified by the states is because the loser did not concede, where normally they do. Again, a self-manufactured 'crisis'. Laughable, because the same ppl who do not want to concede earlier wanted to declare themselves the winner, bypassing all the legalities. Sad, because conceding is very important, signaling to all their supporters that the race is over, and that they need to get to terms with a new reality, a shared reality, that everyone needs to make the best of. And futile, because it just is what it is, the vote is very clear, even despite this stupid electoral college-system.

Again comes down to risk vs. return. There's little to no personal downside, but the upside is becoming a president (even if the odds of that at this point are less that 0,000001%). The problem is that lack of personal downside doesn't mean that there's no downside at all. The cost of these shenanigans is bared by the division of the country, and radicalizing his base already going through the stages of grief (currently looks like still in denial). Convincing people that are already on edge that something is being stolen from them might push some radicals over to spill blood. Which is not good for anyone but expected behavior for people with sociopathic tendencies.

[Elwar]

It's happening!

May I present...the MS Satoshi.

[serveria.com]

It's happening!

May I present...the MS Satoshi.

Looks great! A bit disappointed there's no orange color and no BTC sign anywhere... 

[bitserve]

It's happening!

May I present...the MS Satoshi.

Nice! TBH I was wondering how much different would the real ship be from the renderings (and expecting worse)... But I must say it looks they were very accurate. Congrats!

[Elwar]

Looks great! A bit disappointed there's no orange color and no BTC sign anywhere... 

Orange will be in a different location. Sides will be in blue.

Waiting on most of the paint until we're in Panama...

Permission to paint the boat is upwards around $20k at the port in Pireaus.

So only the legally required minimum for now.

[philipma1957]

So I sold some at 15203
       and some at 15125



we are down to 14,674

question is do I buy some back at 14,500 or wait and see if it drops to 13999

 Personally, I think you should buy a few miners to keep us below 100k+ transactions in the mempool.

Okay roger that.

[Toxic2040]

evening charts

4h


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[sirazimuth]

..... he isn't the president elect. He hasn't been certified the winner of any states yet. And since you're bringing up Al Gore, remember that the media prematurely declared him president elect in 2000 as well.

Dude, I get it. Your guy didn't win. I, and the majority of the voters, were there 4 years ago and I/we know it hurts.
But being in (what looks like) denial about it does not help the process of moving on.
Yes, you are right, the media ended up getting it wrong in 2000 , though they missed the mark by an infinitesimally small amount. (less than a thousand votes)
"Once bitten, twice shy" as the saying goes. It's why they didn't call it yesterday.

[Searing]

It's happening!

May I present...the MS Satoshi.

Sheesh! What does it cost to get a 'wave related' Condo on this beasty? Link?

(no way I can but curious)

Brad

[marcus_of_augustus]

...

PEOBLEM IS I AM NOT A BIG BIDEN FAN.

Well if the Mickey Mouse write-in votes took it, it woulda still been an improvement, so there is that....

Ok, I'm done discussing politics.
I got more important things on my agenda... I gotta clean up cat puke and sift their shitter box...

..... he isn't the president elect. He hasn't been certified the winner of any states yet. And since you're bringing up Al Gore, remember that the media prematurely declared him president elect in 2000 as well.

Dude, I get it. Your guy didn't win. I, and the majority of the voters, were there 4 years ago and I/we know it hurts.
But being in (what looks like) denial about it does not help the process of moving on.
Yes, you are right, the media ended up getting it wrong in 2000 , though they missed the mark by an infinitesimally small amount. (less than a thousand votes)
"Once bitten, twice shy" as the saying goes. It's why they didn't call it yesterday.

... seems like you are quite the Deep State propped-up corpse shill.

... nothing's official until Dec. 14 when the electoral college convenes, until then if you think winning margins inside the voting count error bars in 3-5 "swing states" is "victory, go for it, but not sure you can accuse others of being delusional/in-denial

... until then recounts are happening, voting fraud investigations are happening,

... MSM are lying whore cunts out to serve the elites and deep state, fubar situation normal

... I'd say we are only in the 2nd innings, so suck it up if you can't handle people questioning your slick 'n sleasy narrative

[JayJuanGee]

is dead.

mindrust was right.

We should have sold everything at $4,000 like he did to save all this heartbreak.

Well, I learned a lesson:  Totally panic-dumping Bitcoin may portend randomly attacking someone who is aggrieved at the disappearance of a friend—attacking him for being aggrieved—when that someone who has never personally offended him, has always been friendly toward him.  Now, that was “pulling a mindrust!”

I suppose that it is a matter of character.

JJG was more right than he knew!

Doubly sad that I didn’t buy mindrust’s coins.  If I had, I would offer them back to him later at a moderate penalty for the panic.  I almost want to give him some Bitcoin, a trivial amount, just to stop him from being a nocoiner.  My problem is that in a few years, that “trivial amount” may look like jojo’s old $13/BTC sales.  Yes, I hoard.

Gotta be careful in helping out nocoiners too much because frequently they got to being nocoiners for a reason.  [—snip important context; I am intentionally cherry-picking to show, “more right than he knew”—]

Needs more rusty.

Mindrust is likely NOT in a very solid state of mind, currently.

BTC's current price may feel like it has been a bit extreme, but it is NOT really outside of fair probabilities and expectations, even though NONE of us really can know with any amount of certainty regarding the direction, the intensity or the quickness of such BTC price movements. 

Surely, on a personal level, I am happy to be pretty heavily leaning in the HODLers camp, and anyone who has prepared for UPpity by accumulating a decent BTC stash is also going to be feeling some comforts with the recent price actions of lil orange (or yellow, some say) fiend.

In regards to Lauda, of course her decision to exit the forum could be a bit traumatic, especially for any members who considered her services to have been a benefit to the forum...... I have no real ideas about the back story, but I did read the OP of her departure message.. and surely communicating a finality in such persona's presence on the forum.. so merely still alive to the extent some of her posts and trust marking continue to have effect.

 I had not quite expected such departure, but surely life happens, and we cannot count on matters or involved peeps staying the same with the passage of time.  In that regard, change does inevitably happen and sometimes in less than expected ways.

[Arriemoller]

...

—BEGIN QUOTATION—
by nullius • st_mtim = 2020-10-12 17:58:07.057600524 +0000
Minimally revised on grounds of perfectionism.

[—a quoted quip about idiots taking IQ tests—]

Immodest proposal:  Only smart people should be allowed to take IQ tests, to learn to read, or to vote.

Every one being allowed to learn to read, ruineth in the long run not only writing but also thinking.

...

USA has 330,000,000 people about 200,000,000 are old enough to vote.

https://www.highiqpro.com/iq-tests/what-does-my-iq-score-mean has the chart below




14% are at 70 to 85  
34% are at 85 to 100

translation 48% are below average or 48% or 200 million =  96 million old enough to vote and affect America elections.

So if passing an iq test was used and 100 was the pass we would reduce 200mill -96mill =104 million can vote.

If people with a IQ under 100 weren't allowed to vote there wouldn't be any Dem. votes. That would be no fun.

[nullius]

High forum art!  With appropriate context restored, and some [explanatory notes inserted in bracketed red text—for I was too subtle]:

European culture in 1808:  [...nude statute of a beautiful woman, Pauline (Bonaparte) Borghese, in a classical pose as Venus...]
Fun fact:  Pauline had an affair with Paganini.

[nullius now adds:  A painting of Paganini with a beard was deliberately hereby selected.  Paganini was a man.  How manly?  He fucked Napoleon’s sister.

For her part, the aristocratic voluptuary Venus usually had a taste for soldiers—warriors, as Nietzsche said: men of violence—but she loved men of violins, too!

Oh, my:  The subject line has a Nullian onion-layered multiplicity of meanings.  Violence (done) to violins.  Or:  From violence, to violins.  Either way bespeaks passion, in some sense.  Paganini’s violins set Pauline on fire.
]

THIS SPACE IS INTENTIONALLY LEFT NULL.

Modern, democratic European culture Eurovision (like “Satoshi’s Vision”?) in 2014:
[—snip image of countercultural arson against the arts:  An androgynous bearded thing in women’s clothes, Conchita Wurst, holding the trophy for the 2014 “Eurovision Song Contest”—]

If a similar competition as the "modern democratic Eurovision" would have existed back in 1808, do you really believe that "the people" would have voted for Paganini?

I don't think so.

Alas!  I have been caught out with my cunning, and quite intentional attempt to slip by a juxtaposition of high culture and popular culture.  I did that to be succinct, for I doubt that the unmitigated savages fine folks here would understand all the nuances of my point—not without a five thousand word essay that nobody would read.

In lieu thereof, I will pose for you a question:  Why are so many classical music pieces named after folk dances?  Especially from the Baroque.  Just for instance, the gigue (‘jig’).  There are not a few J. S. Bach instrumental movements named “Gigue”, but who was dancing the jig to them?  ;-)

High culture and popular culture form a feedback loop...

E.g., vide audi BWV 1011:  Convenient legal download link outside the U.S., where this sound recording’s copyright has expired (DO NOT CLICK, IF YOU ARE IN THE “LAND OF THE FREE”!!), unfortunately globbed together as a single 25-minute MP3.  The whole layout of the movements is derived from ballroom dances related to folk dances; and most of the movement names are somehow derived from folk dances:

7 movements:

• Prélude
• Allemande
• Courante
• Sarabande
• Gavotte
• Gavotte
• Gigue

I should only believe in a god who would know how to dance.

(My previous reference to IMSLP for WO folks.)

[ed. I think there's even a realistic chance that some other singing bearded woman would have won the competition in 1808 anyway]

Zeroth of all, that is not a “bearded woman”:  It is a man in woman’s clothes.

And first of all, no.  Not outside of a circus-style freak show—though strictly speaking, that may be anachronistic when considering 1808.

Either you have a terribly low opinion of commoners, or your view of history has been distorted by postmodern pseudohistory.  Orwell’s observation was astute:  “Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.”

Now, given that my example of today’s pop-“culture” was Conchita Wurst, I will draw on a German counterexample.  I think that way back when, the popular “Eurovision” of guildsmen was embodied by the long and illustrious tradition of the Master Singer—which in turn inspired high-cultural works.  (I have not reviewed any of the audio downloads from that page—of which there is currently only one small clip; I cannot attest the quality thereof.)  Other examples, not dissimilar, could be drawn from other social strata, and other European countries; parallels could be drawn from not a few non-European cultures.

[jojo69]

There is something to be said—from the point of view of the powerful—for just ramming things through and explaining nothing. It’s a clear demonstration of who’s boss. It demoralizes the other side. And it’s nearly certain to change the system permanently in ways that benefit the ruling class for as long as they can keep it going.

[sirazimuth]

...

PEOBLEM IS I AM NOT A BIG BIDEN FAN.

Well if the Mickey Mouse write-in votes took it, it woulda still been an improvement, so there is that....

Ok, I'm done discussing politics.
I got more important things on my agenda... I gotta clean up cat puke and sift their shitter box...

..... he isn't the president elect. He hasn't been certified the winner of any states yet. And since you're bringing up Al Gore, remember that the media prematurely declared him president elect in 2000 as well.

Dude, I get it. Your guy didn't win. I, and the majority of the voters, were there 4 years ago and I/we know it hurts.
But being in (what looks like) denial about it does not help the process of moving on.
Yes, you are right, the media ended up getting it wrong in 2000 , though they missed the mark by an infinitesimally small amount. (less than a thousand votes)
"Once bitten, twice shy" as the saying goes. It's why they didn't call it yesterday.

... seems like you are quite the Deep State propped-up corpse shill.

... nothing's official until Dec. 14 when the electoral college convenes, until then if you think winning margins inside the voting count error bars in 3-5 "swing states" is "victory, go for it, but not sure you can accuse others of being delusional/in-denial

... until then recounts are happening, voting fraud investigations are happening,

... MSM are lying whore cunts out to serve the elites and deep state, fubar situation normal

... I'd say we are only in the 2nd innings, so suck it up if you can't handle people questioning your slick 'n sleasy narrative

Oh jeeezus...not even going there, dude.  Paranoid delusions etc.
Maybe Cryptotourist was onto something, idk....
I guess I'm on another wobro shitlist then.
No worries, won't lose any sleep over it....

Hey Marcus, can I offer you a pump?

[marcus_of_augustus]

USA has 330,000,000 people about 200,000,000 are old enough to vote.

https://www.highiqpro.com/iq-tests/what-does-my-iq-score-mean has the chart below




14% are at 70 to 85  
34% are at 85 to 100

translation 48% are below average or 48% or 200 million =  96 million old enough to vote and affect America elections.

So if passing an iq test was used and 100 was the pass we would reduce 200mill -96mill =104 million can vote.

If people with a IQ under 100 weren't allowed to vote there wouldn't be any Dem. votes. That would be no fun.

~ 70 million voted for Trump, that's 70 million people with guns who don't believe the Intl Commie elite Deep State psyop, psycho-babble, propaganda bullshit

The Real Resistance

 .... I guess we're just meant to celebrate gender-neutrality and paedo-curious view-points along with the new "president-elect"

[JayJuanGee]

By the way, most peeps in these here parts of the WO likely realize that I am NOT much of a shitcoiner at all... I will....<SNIP shitcoin talk>.....

Anyhow, my supposed love for shitcoins is surely a well kept secret that was not even known by me... go figure.

Now Jay, that was naughty.
You should know better than posting about  shitcoin shenanigans in the WOb....

Couldn't help myself.

I must have been having a Bob (emotional) moment.   

Sitting senator Kelly Loeffler, previous CEO of Bakkt, is on the chopping block. She has a run-off in January. Of course it has to be one of the most pro-BTC senators to [possibly] go.  

Seems that we are going to have to watch this.

Sounds as if you have concluded that the odds of winning are against Loeffler?

It's probably about 50/50, which is too close for my comfort. It depends on whether the dems or repubs are more fired up at that point. If Biden is the president elect, the repubs might be motivated enough to get out more of the vote, and dump more money into that race.

O.k... I did a quickie looking it up, and you seem to be correct about the split, and sure there are two senate seats there that may well be going down a run-off path.. so I suppose it could be interesting how those races turn out.  Georgia seemed to have been an interesting political location this year, and likely to continue to get a lot of attention for the next couple of months....

Politics is never over, right?

[Elwar]

It's happening!

May I present...the MS Satoshi.

Sheesh! What does it cost to get a 'wave related' Condo on this beasty? Link?

(no way I can but curious)

Brad

Cabins starting at $25,000

You can check out the rooms here: https://oceanbuilders.com/auction-page

[STT]

And since you're bringing up Al Gore, remember that the media prematurely declared him president elect in 2000 as well.

Owch that would have hurt double, I remember the 2000 one but dont remember it being declared as such and I doubt I stayed up to watch exact results but it for sure dragged on forever.    Trump being on extremely shaky ground was clear from March onwards, nothing to do with politics or Gores loss,  more like the Bill Clinton win way back.   Bill also did the very unusual knocking off a sitting president and again it was in a fairly harsh economy at that time.  They didn't do no stimulus back then just tough luck and people switched ship mid trip largely because of that, that's mostly how I count this as tbh.   Its close enough to say it could have been a incumbent win in any normal year, but its not a normal year.

BTC pulled back to weekly average and put in a bullish pin remaining positive, its about 50% midway between recent high and the nov 5th 1k blip down.

[infofront]

..... he isn't the president elect. He hasn't been certified the winner of any states yet. And since you're bringing up Al Gore, remember that the media prematurely declared him president elect in 2000 as well.

Dude, I get it. Your guy didn't win. I, and the majority of the voters, were there 4 years ago and I/we know it hurts.
But being in (what looks like) denial about it does not help the process of moving on.
Yes, you are right, the media ended up getting it wrong in 2000 , though they missed the mark by an infinitesimally small amount. (less than a thousand votes)
"Once bitten, twice shy" as the saying goes. It's why they didn't call it yesterday.

I'll level with you. I think there was widespread voter fraud and shenanigans. I still have just enough trust in our American system to believe that any illegitimate votes will be nullified, one way or another.