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801  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GRA] Graincoin - New PoW/PoS coin | Fast, secure | Version 1.5 Released! on: March 09, 2014, 06:10:30 PM
Looks like wallet can't sync anymore.

It's a little slow to connect, but mine is downloading the blockchain now, so it's fine. It did take 5 minutes to get started though. There's only 3 active connections, which is why it's slow to connect.
802  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GRA] Graincoin - New PoW/PoS coin | Fast, secure | Version 1.5 Released! on: March 09, 2014, 05:59:15 PM
That's unfortunate, if true.

Well, if anyone wants to offload, my grain address is in my signature.

1 Satoshi. Quite shocking, but coinedup really did a number on this one.
803  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [RE-ANN][FCK] ★FCKBANKS REBORN ★(New Devs and team) ★ on: March 09, 2014, 05:49:21 PM
This coin has a strong message, but there also needs to be some continued development of some sort.

New wallet features would indeed be much welcome.
804  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PRT-particlecoin,you can't miss it. on: March 09, 2014, 05:44:04 PM
I have some particles I have been collecting daily from the faucet s it will be interesting to see how it pans out. I need to study more about this coin though to see if I need to invest in it more for the long haul. I am not good at day trading so looking more for coins to hold. Smiley

The dev of Particle is competent, and he's put a lot of work into Particle. It's not really a coin well suited to day trading, but I am holding my coins as a long term investment. I could have sold them at any time. I have 154,000 of them, so I'd make a decent sum if I sold them. But I believe the price will increase over time. I'm not saying it'll be huge, but I'm confident that the price will go up again eventually.
805  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PRT-particlecoin,you can't miss it. on: March 09, 2014, 04:52:06 PM
Looking good. I still have my original investment, plus a few more K I've mined since. Looking forward to the new client release. Nice to see a coin actually doing something.
806  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Take a Stand with EBT ★ Reject Paid Voting on Exchanges ★ on: March 09, 2014, 04:43:28 PM
It's clear who the only winners are out of all this; the exchanges.
807  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ★★ EBT Coin - PoW/PoS (30 days) - New Video on ebt-coin.com!!★★ on: March 09, 2014, 04:41:29 PM
Ebt to be listed on lazycoins at launch!

Goes to show we don't need bribery and money to get a good credible coin on an exchange.  Keep mining brothers, this is only the beginning

We'll have the last laugh when the price goes up, and everyone cries "oh why didn't we mine this when we had the chance". Zero sympathy.

Difficulty has doubled and hashes have doubled and yield per hash has dropped 4x overnight.

I think we'll be glad we mined this while we had the chance.

We're one of the first coins that will be available as soon as the LazyCoins exchange launches, too.
808  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PMC] Premine Coin | Rare | Mining Transaction Fee Proof of Concept on: March 09, 2014, 01:47:37 PM
another scam coin here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=414012.0 ?

lol you're a joke

Look if you don't like PMC, then that's fine. But if you're just going to be rude and intolerable, then nobody wants you here, and you're just embarassing yourself. If you don't have any constructive criticism, then nobody is interested in listening.

I think annpaol is just bitter he sold all his coins at 0.0018 when they reached 10x that price (currently 0.005 after absorbing a big dump).

At least the dev was honest enough to keep the same account, unlike the devs of numerous scam coins who start fresh accounts for each new coin.

Sold all my coins yesterday thinking that 0.0018 was a good price to dump. I believe that more than this price can't be reached.

Yeah, it seems pretty obvious annpaol wants to drive down the price so he can buy back in.

Good luck to him. If it ever goes that low again he'll be against every other person just itching to snap them up. I wouldn't count on the price going lower. That's FUDster mentality.
809  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rumors of up and coming big MazCoin Pump? any news? on: March 09, 2014, 01:44:44 PM
Either that, or people who bought in before the crash are looking to dump.

Always consider both sides of the coin. So to speak.

people keeping the price floating low with no major change lookes like somthing is cooking alright..

dosnt metter if they lost and planning a pump or invested small and looking for pump.

pump twitter groups also give small signels of pump.

anybody knows the timing?

Again, you saying "people keeping the price floating low", but it could very well be that this is the natural trading price. One person's dump is another person's insistence that someone is keeping the price down.

You really can see it both ways, and there is no evidence either way to back it up.

Personally, I'm buying it as a long-term investment, so I don't really care what the day trade prices are. If it drops it's a bonus. If it goes up, I don't really care at all that much. I'm not a day trader by nature, so talks of pumps and dumps and holding down prices seem pretty irrelevant. If you genuinely think MazaCoin has a big future you'd be buying it up now regardless of the price and try to grab as much as you can.
810  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PMC] Premine Coin | Rare | Mining Transaction Fee Proof of Concept on: March 09, 2014, 01:38:23 PM
Before this thread devolves any further, perhaps we should move to alleviate some of spirys concerns. Legitimate or otherwise. I propose the following:

The Great PMC Giveaway and Charity Donation.

1. Contact all original bct members who received a large stake and ask them to consider donating to a giveaway and charity donation. I suggest approx. 3-5% of the holdings (e.g. 5% = 250 PMC from a 5000 stake)
2. Upon agreement of all participants  send PMC to a trusted member for distribution.
3. Send a set % of the funds to charity (I suggest 50%).
4. Redistribute PMC to established bct members who did not receive PMC originally.

Details are open to suggestions.


Good idea but not every one would give their PMC for free, above all if they have bought them.

Yes, that's why I suggested only the original people who got them. I wouldnt expect anyone who bought them to participate.

My fault, i read quickly. Keep in count that is quite enough if will be distributed the 15k from musent. Not every 15k but also an half would be great.

With 100 pmc max to new people we could have 75 new members, maybe more active, maybe other dumpers...

I'm going to be perfectly honest. I don't see Musent giving away half of his coins. As much as I'd like to think he would. He won't. He's welcome to prove me wrong, but he doesn't have any interest in promoting PMC.

Yeah from his posts I infer that he's a very profit driven person

We can only ask I suppose. Perhaps some would at least consider the charity donation, if enough members agree to sign up. The coins were received for free, so technically we have nothing to lose.

I called him out on his behaviour and he went straight on the defensive. No, he has no intention of helping this community. His actions speak for themselves. They're his coins to do with as he pleases, but it's quite obvious he is a hoarder. Again, that's his prerogative. At least I can say I've been giving out coins from the start.
811  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PMC] Premine Coin | Rare | Mining Transaction Fee Proof of Concept on: March 09, 2014, 01:36:42 PM
another scam coin here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=414012.0 ?

lol you're a joke

Look if you don't like PMC, then that's fine. But if you're just going to be rude and intolerable, then nobody wants you here, and you're just embarassing yourself. If you don't have any constructive criticism, then nobody is interested in listening.
812  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rumors of up and coming big MazCoin Pump? any news? on: March 09, 2014, 01:21:28 PM
Either that, or people who bought in before the crash are looking to dump.

Always consider both sides of the coin. So to speak.
813  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PMC] Premine Coin | Rare | Mining Transaction Fee Proof of Concept on: March 09, 2014, 01:18:40 PM
Before this thread devolves any further, perhaps we should move to alleviate some of spirys concerns. Legitimate or otherwise. I propose the following:

The Great PMC Giveaway and Charity Donation.

1. Contact all original bct members who received a large stake and ask them to consider donating to a giveaway and charity donation. I suggest approx. 3-5% of the holdings (e.g. 5% = 250 PMC from a 5000 stake)
2. Upon agreement of all participants  send PMC to a trusted member for distribution.
3. Send a set % of the funds to charity (I suggest 50%).
4. Redistribute PMC to established bct members who did not receive PMC originally.

Details are open to suggustions.


Good idea but not every one would give their PMC for free, above all if they have bought them.

Yes, that's why I suggested only the original people who got them. I wouldnt expect anyone who bought them to participate.

My fault, i read quickly. Keep in count that is quite enough if will be distributed the 15k from musent. Not every 15k but also an half would be great.

With 100 pmc max to new people we could have 75 new members, maybe more active, maybe other dumpers...

I'm going to be perfectly honest. I don't see Musent giving away half of his coins. As much as I'd like to think he would. He won't. He's welcome to prove me wrong, but he doesn't have any interest in promoting PMC.
814  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Faircoin - The First Fairly Distributed COIN -Vote for us on exchanges! on: March 09, 2014, 01:14:20 PM
I missed the initial distribution, but I look forward to an opportunity to buy in.

I'm very interested to see how this will fair on the markets.
815  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PMC] Premine Coin | Rare | Mining Transaction Fee Proof of Concept on: March 09, 2014, 01:08:54 PM
I can spread bad news about PMC around investors of course i can do that . And i think ill do that because i am sure dissapointed and ill share the experience and put others too give it a tour of the wonderful and elitist world of PMC lol . Very amazing community amaze me everyday the crypto world with specimens like you that have so short span life . But this time i won't feel sorry for the bag holders .  Grin Grin Grin Grin

Very good bud. I said that this community was bad from long time ago. They hoard coins and give a little to other newcomers. I'm happy to see on poloniex their decline. When it goes to 1 satoshi i'll buy all and give them to my dogs lololol


Good one . I think new exchange Poloniex exchange will be 1 PMC = 1 DOGE at some point they all going too dump cause their are declining , no merchants no real use , just rare coin with lots of greedy bag holders .

The scarcity is not always a warranty to have an expensive coin. I agree with you, they are a small community and don't understand that in this manner, without new comers, they are dead.

So you're here to do what, show us the error of our ways, are you? Or kick a dog when you think it's down?

 Cheesy

Please do continue. I find this immensely entertaining to watch.

Yes the distribution  like yours was an error. Think that it would be better to give coins away to people that deserve and not random ones.
For example who made the logo, the wallet or other things like that have received a bounty or only donations ? This is not fair because there are many people sitted on their coins right now than didn't do anything.
Am I wrong ?

An error? If all the coins were put aside for bounties, the developer would still have 90% of all the coins he handed out, rather than 0%.

You have a valid point in that there should be PMC set aside for bounties, and there was, and still is; I have 2k PMC set aside for bounties and future development.

No, you aren't wrong. There are some hoarders, but nothing you can do can ever prevent that. Ever. No matter how brilliant the distribution method, there will always be hoarders. Always. The problem is always going to be when the coin gains value, people are not going to want to give it away. Not just because it's valuable, but because newcomers to the coin are far more likely to dump the coins for BTC than hold on to them. Many early adopters are holders. There has been very little dumping compared to how many are holders. Some of those are active members, and yes there are hoarders, like with BTC, NXT, or any other altcoin you can think to name. This is just the nature of currency and Capitalism.

The issues you raise are inherent in all currency, not just PMC alone. PMC has been, relatively speaking, a lot fairer than a lot of other coins. It's easy to look in hindsight and say this could have been done this way, or that could have been done that way, but all things considered the distribution was a lot better than many other pure PoS coins. Look at how many people have been scammed out of hundreds of BTC for "IPO" currencies, and consider PMC was given away for absolutely free.

PMC is fair compared to other coins. Currency in itself can never be truly fair. Not unless everyone has an equal share and never more or never less. If that is the case though, then the coin would be unusable and worthless.
816  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PMC] Premine Coin | Rare | Mining Transaction Fee Proof of Concept on: March 09, 2014, 12:52:15 PM
I can spread bad news about PMC around investors of course i can do that . And i think ill do that because i am sure dissapointed and ill share the experience and put others too give it a tour of the wonderful and elitist world of PMC lol . Very amazing community amaze me everyday the crypto world with specimens like you that have so short span life . But this time i won't feel sorry for the bag holders .  Grin Grin Grin Grin

Very good bud. I said that this community was bad from long time ago. They hoard coins and give a little to other newcomers. I'm happy to see on poloniex their decline. When it goes to 1 satoshi i'll buy all and give them to my dogs lololol


Good one . I think new exchange Poloniex exchange will be 1 PMC = 1 DOGE at some point they all going too dump cause their are declining , no merchants no real use , just rare coin with lots of greedy bag holders .

The scarcity is not always a warranty to have an expensive coin. I agree with you, they are a small community and don't understand that in this manner, without new comers, they are dead.

So you're here to do what, show us the error of our ways, are you? Or kick a dog when you think it's down?

 Cheesy

Please do continue. I find this immensely entertaining to watch.
817  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PMC] Premine Coin | Rare | Mining Transaction Fee Proof of Concept on: March 09, 2014, 12:47:57 PM
I can spread bad news about PMC around investors of course i can do that . And i think ill do that because i am sure dissapointed and ill share the experience and put others too give it a tour of the wonderful and elitist world of PMC lol . Very amazing community amaze me everyday the crypto world with specimens like you that have so short span life . But this time i won't feel sorry for the bag holders .  Grin Grin Grin Grin

Very good bud. I said that this community was bad from long time ago. They hoard coins and give a little to other newcomers. I'm happy to see on poloniex their decline. When it goes to 1 satoshi i'll buy all and give them to my dogs lololol


Pathetic. Bunch of FUD spreaders trying to drive down the place. You're a child.

Nobody's going to listen to a bunch of kids who can barely string a coherent sentence together. Jog on and go beg for handouts in the newbie forums.
818  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PMC] Premine Coin | Rare | Mining Transaction Fee Proof of Concept on: March 09, 2014, 12:25:53 PM
Just noticed some strange behavior when I switch between my Block Rewarder wallet and my main Wallet;



It seems my script sort of "keeps going", and causes a few coins to go from my main wallet back into the Block Rewarder wallet. I have absolutely no idea why it does that, and why it even sends those amounts.

It's not a major issue. If anything it just means the Block Rewarder gets a top up every time I switch wallets. It's possibly because my script still thinks I'm running the Block Rewarder and tries to fill it back up. Not sure how it comes up with those amounts, though.

Block Rewarder has AI and is rewarding you Wink

Hah. Maybe. Well, it's not rewarding me per se. It's taking coins out of my own wallet and topping up the Block Rewarder. At the moment the Block Rewarder runs on about 1 PMC per day I think, so it'll just add another 5 days or so every time I do it.
819  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PMC] Premine Coin | Rare | Mining Transaction Fee Proof of Concept on: March 09, 2014, 12:13:25 PM
Just noticed some strange behavior when I switch between my Block Rewarder wallet and my main Wallet;



It seems my script sort of "keeps going", and causes a few coins to go from my main wallet back into the Block Rewarder wallet. I have absolutely no idea why it does that, and why it even sends those amounts.

It's not a major issue. If anything it just means the Block Rewarder gets a top up every time I switch wallets. It's possibly because my script still thinks I'm running the Block Rewarder and tries to fill it back up. Not sure how it comes up with those amounts, though.
820  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: It's time to stop offering MAC Wallets for Alt Coins on: March 09, 2014, 12:07:12 PM
If you do that, it's not Apple who suffers but those who own their products. They already own those overpriced products, don't make them suffer by putting them out of the game too.

Apple are a propriety software company. They stranglehold their platform, and it's to the detriment of its users. The people who suffer are the ones who keep buying Apple's products.

This is why I support the Android platform.
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