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801  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are You Disappointed In Trading? on: July 10, 2017, 07:42:29 PM
March to April 2017 is my good month. I earn almost 5x of my investment. But now its kinda disappointing my coins were bought while bitcoin is 2900usd. Now all of my coins are in bloody red.


Don't worry about that. The price will remain below $2900 for only a smaller period and as we have noticed in the past that it will again start to increase and we know that when a start in price increase start then it increase with a highest speed. Just wait for August 1st date and after that you will get the fruits.
Hmmmm okay august 1st , the crucial moment to decide bitcoin future.
But the disappointment in trading will always there , as you might have a wrong prediction at some point.
That's normal as a human , you make a mistake and you cannot predict it perfectly 100% accurate.
802  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: July 10, 2017, 07:31:06 PM
In real life there is no easy way to make profit from gambling. There are some guidance and some points to the way of getting something from bet, but still there are some rules to every bet and every game.



Gambling itself is already an easy way to make profit though of course, the risks are greater. Everything that you can easily get would have to have a consequence to it. The easier you profit from gambling, the faster you'll lose money as well. So if you want to talk about making profits, try to just work hard for it instead. IT's going to be more fulfilling earning the right way
that was a huge misconception, gambling basically is a place to losing money faster.
people too early falling to the first huge winning in gambling.
but actually when you have done it , slowly you will realize it wasn't easy at all.
the experience will teach everyone that gambling is not an easy game. And here only we lose not make a profit. We don't need to do research on gambling is good or bad, and we can make a profit in gambling or not. If you spend some time in any gambling site, you will get the actual fact of winning in gambling. 
Experiences will tell you that make money through gambling is the hardest thing to do instead easy.
It is easy at the first time winning , but hard for those people who looking for a long term money making.
Some people think that sportsbetting is the one who easier but i don't think so , it is just the same.
803  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: July 10, 2017, 07:19:27 PM
I think we're addicted, and it's hard to get out. Since any result we will definitely remain a gamble.
In addition a big winnings will make us curious to continue to try to gamble even though we always get bad results
Besides  the fact of being addicted already to gambling is that people ofcourse hopes and thinks that they will still win, even thought they've already loss enough to think of not coming back to gambling but then they still do. That comes to the extent that they don't care how much already the've beeb loosing as long as they will win back the profit even though they're not sure of.
Expecting to always wi  in the end of session of your game is a mistake .
You shouldn't expect a profit and a winning in a negative EV games , and most of the games is indeed -EV.
No wonder people keep trying their luck in gambling as always they are hooked by a lot of things.
804  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Loss almost 40%, should stop trading or not ? on: July 07, 2017, 08:53:40 AM
Everyone makes loss while trading. It isn't a big deal. I agree your one was a big percentage. Usually people make huge loss because of impulse trading. First thing you should do is give yourself a break, try to know whether you want to start afresh, if yes then try to learn about trading. Read experience of people. You will get many. Don't try to copy them, just learn what mistake they made. You can read Trading Chaos by Bill Williams. You can watch Coinigy shows on YouTube. Search more about trading and techniques if you want to go back to trading.  Smiley
also don't forget to trade the money you can afford to lose only.
otherwise your trading could be a disaster istead a way to make money steady right?
cut loss never be a good feeling , people should understand about it , and to take a break for a while is the best choice to calm down yourself.
805  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Safest way to sell bitcoins? on: July 07, 2017, 07:58:55 AM
Just wondering, would would be the safest way to sell your bitcoins? Is there any platform considered universally "safe" to convert BTC in USD through Paypal, or direct deposit or something? Thank you!
The safest way to sell your bitcoin would be from the loccal exchangers since it has a business licensed and they have an authority to make an exchange betweem bitcoin and fiat money. If there is any problem regarding them, they are responsible to respond your as soon as possible.
it is true , also usually a local exchanger could always be tracked.
so you will have not to worry if then they are running scam service , you will always can go to their office.
and report them to a local police or something , i never feel insecure when i did it , as i feel have some guarantee Smiley .
806  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Has gambling affected your life in a good way? on: July 07, 2017, 07:49:59 AM
For me, yes. When I lost a lot of money in gambling, I learned the value of money. This is a true story bro. I learned that money doesn't grow on trees and gambling a lot of money is not worth it. The chances of you making more money out of gambling is so small that it is not worth risking your money at all. I would rather invest it on Cryptocurrencies and profit. Though I still gamble for fun with small amounts.

Yes, I think gambling has affected people more than they care to admit. When you lose to a game you have this urge to play again to regain your money or to have your dignity back but that is the trap and allure of gambling easy money when you win and a blackhole aucking your funds when you lose until you slowly lose yourself to the game and little by little all you care ablut is gambling.
nothing really positive produced by our gambling habit basically.
most people come and go to gamble with an upset feeling , those people who lucky enough to smile after what happened in the casino is so rare.
maybe below 1% only of total player who experienced a well influence in gambling , so the answer it is not.
807  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the Biggest problem you have with trading / exchanging? on: July 07, 2017, 07:15:18 AM
The major problem for me in trading is to find the right time for selling/buying, sometimes I sold my coins too early without thinking about the future of that coin, similarly bought some coins very lately where I could have made a great profit but now I have to adjust with a normal profit or equal cashout.
you will never find a right time to sell or buy in trading lol.
if so then trading is predictable and nothing good happened when it is preadictable , it could be chaos.
at least you have done an effort to predict the price until it is close to the accurate.
808  Economy / Speculation / Re: Anyone else think "long term" hodlers are idiots? on: July 06, 2017, 11:06:40 PM
For me they don't look like an idiot at all if they are selling at huge price changes such as this and rebuying it when a huge dump occur like what happened in 2013. If they would not sell some, their profits would just be an imaginary one because they don't obtain the returns of their investments yet so its better for them to just trade it when crazy price movements occur.
i think the long term investment is the best investment, they are in fact the wisest people who invest their money for long term, in fact there is very little risk in long term investment while short term investment is really risky.
there will always a risk when it comes to make money , especially in cryptocurrency world.
where everything go up and down so quickly and hard to predict.
i just make a guessing that those people who have no time enough to follow the market charts is the one who hold for long term investment instead as an idiot or whatever it is.
809  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do you plan to sell? on: July 06, 2017, 10:53:42 PM
I do not want to sell my bitcoins for now because its fast increasing, I still need to save it for the future. Monthly I will buy and save bitcoins because we do not know someday It will boom and we became millionaire. Actually it has the situation to up and down in price but in the end it will increase and getting increase in price. It is good to save bitcoin and in order to save more maybe You need to trade it.
increasing fast doesn't mean it will guarantee stay forever, you know that right?
use and earn bitcoin daily , sell and hold it 50/50 as anticipation the price could drop.
be confident and positive to believe in bitcoin as a future investment is indeed important , but you need to have a plan b too.
810  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Is Your Worst Moment in Gambling? on: July 06, 2017, 10:31:12 PM
I do have many experiences on losing out on gambling lots of games and different types of it but the most worst for me isnt on sports but on luck based gambling i do experience lose on sports but not too much amount since i do only bet small amounts unlike on playing dice which i do lose huge btc which causes for me to have sleepless nights because those amounts i used are results of my hard days work and lose in an instant.

I think that's because in sports betting you don't have an option to double your bet amount every two seconds, so in a worst case scenario you just lose your initial bet and that's it. I suggest you to deposit on a dice not more than you usually pay with sports betting, and thus you won't be losing big amounts in an instant.

My worst moment is when I'm so unlucky that having Aces full of Kings I lose to a guy with four of a kind.
poker game is sometimes so annoying indeed , but also full of surprises.
but well it was the only way gambling could be understood by you guys.
you cannot always to expect to win even with every good things in your hand already.
811  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Would you login to a gambling site with Twitter, Google or Facebook Id? on: July 05, 2017, 03:20:45 PM
I am prefer to not linked my social media account with gambling sites
My social media account is only to interaction with my friend and family
some people create social media with fake information to avoid hacking etc.
so for those people who did it i think it won't be a big deal to link their social media account to their gambling account.
but yeaaa there's no urgency to do that bs thing .
812  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: July 05, 2017, 02:52:41 PM
If you stop gambling at a right time then it can be profitable for you but if you keep on gambling again and again then it will never help you either in short term or even in long term as you will surely loose everything that you have won so far if you don't quit.

Self Control is one thing which determines whether you will end up in profit or loss. Because if you get addicted and you play again and again you will end up in a loss for sure. Because the longer you stay in casinos to play more profits to the casinos is the general statistics. So better in short time whether you win or lose you should go away and overall you might be in more profit in the long run if you stay for shorter duration.

yeaaa it was the thing that always people did everytime come to a casino.
they have got used to it , ti gamble repeatedly no matter you win or lost they don't care about it.
to gamble occasionally is better than have to chase something uncertain such as to win in the long run?
813  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: July 05, 2017, 02:27:05 PM
Yes, anything in life in general, once you are taking risk, you are into gambling. Trading is like dealing with the odds. However, there are different system people are doing. Some are depending on probabilities especially in trading. They might be similar but focus on fewer trades and study the trend. Keep a discipline aligned in managing your money before taking risk.
i agree with you , completely agree that trading also has probability and odds.
the difference only about how the approach could be done.
while trading there's a lot of realiable sources to be trusted    and used but not with gambling, just it i guess.
814  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: July 05, 2017, 02:00:48 PM
Don't play with your profit that was a bad mindset your management is wrong if you really bet your profit. Profit is the fruit of your hardships and skills. So, intead you play with your profit' play again with your capital that was a good mindset that really needs when you play gambling. It is based upon your skills and is not based upon your money. Always be wise with your dice and cards. Profit is the proof that you are a very good gambler and wise gambler.
okay then you think it is more to a mindset problem right? makes sense enough.
i a little bit agree with you , but actually it is depends on what kind player are you.
when you have a bankroll management you shouldn't worry about that , but when you did not have one , i suggest to do what you have said above.
815  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: July 05, 2017, 01:48:31 PM
I do not use analysis for gambling, because I play first for pleasure, not for earnings. Analysis will distract from excitement and lose the taste of the game.

You can have pleasure when you win too! Why gamble and miss chance to earn? Analysis in sport betting ( example ) will help you to decide how you want to bet, for me it is much easier this way. In card games analysis is good because it can show you probabilities of next card, or just a simple win chance. Gambling with analysis is better than gambling without.

Well, analysis is not a basic thing of gambling, that's why mostly gamblers are start gambling without analysis. But you are right, analysis help us in sports betting. Especially in matches and also in cards games analysis is helpful. But it is also ourself that we have a judgemental mind to judge the right analysis and then win.
but I think in some format analysis play an important role. for example in sports where you need to have good experience and knowledge so in such gambling you need to use analysis and you can do that only if you have good knowledge about the game where you are going to put your bet and secondly if you know all the player and their previous record, then you can do good analysis which can help in winning your bet.
not completely true , even in sportsbetting you could always win continuously when you are in lucky times.
so of course pretty clear here no matter sportsbetting or what, luck hold important role not skill.
analysis is like superstition for me personally.
816  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: btc crash now = TOP buying opportunity ? on: July 04, 2017, 10:57:36 PM
Yes I can't consider this a crash as well. I don't know much but it looks like normal BTC price variation. Right now I still think it will continue to rise, since $ keep entering on exchanges, so the price will continue to go up I think.

This is part of bitcoin's fluctuation, it is really normal to have this kind of movement but for sure this time there were people who truly in panic selling because it still going down, but for sure tomorrow it will go back to normal since there will be investors who will grab the opportunity while the price gets low.
Yes I agree looking at the price situation now we a surely is a bearish condition. So I am personally not interested into buying the BTC now, I am not saying that I will never buy it but for now I think buying BTC is not favourable for me, I know I can buy it cheaper in near future than today.
The XRP have specially grabbed my attention now a days as its price is not as low as that of the BTC and the ETH.
listen , the scenario always be like this :

1. you bought it cheap now a lot
2. get profit a lot too later once the price increased
3. but sooner or later the price dropped hard more than the increments.
4. in the end you are in loss not profit.

the key here is about a superb and accurate analysis leading to an accurate prediction , also bankroll management.
817  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control greed on gambling? on: July 04, 2017, 10:40:06 PM
I experience this same infect of greed in the years 2011 when I went into betting and gambling. I find out that actually betting is a game of chance and your should not invest the money you cannot afford to lose into gambling and you should not jump into gambling without prior knowledge on how gambling has an inherent risk and reward in it. Greed is the number one enemy of a gambler. Those that succeed are those that are able to control their emotions and invest based on reality. What I do tell people is invest just 2 to 3 percent of your risk capital and no matter the temptation stick to that plan until you became successful.

This will be never easy to recover right because people from everywhere will greed on money for sure I think. It make the decision of our living standard. I have some of friends who lost many amount risky investment and gambling kind of option available to earn btc or Fiat.
when talking about money there will always a greed involve.
actually between be positive about to become more successful or greedy is a little bit similar.
just the way how people have a point of view about that , but i think in this case gambling greedy not included.
and specially when we are talking about gambling, where the only thinking is to make money, i think 99% people come to casino to make money, and most of the people thinking that they will play gambling for some time when they will make a big money there then they will leave gambling but in fact when he start it then it become difficult for him to stop in both cases, either he is making money losing it. he like to continue gambling and become addicted.
yeaaa it feels like there is something wrong with our brain right?
you don't want to continue playing but this hands always take money from the pocket like an automatically.
and realize later that it was greedy causing you keep playing until everything has gone burned.
818  Economy / Gambling / Re: ChipMixer.com betting is now provably fair on: July 04, 2017, 10:31:24 PM
New features added and looks like the betting one is interesting i thought that this is only for mixing but you added a gambling style mixing..
Well i think it is good idea and more people will be interested about a new feature since many of bitcoin users are always want to gamble to double their bitcoins..
hard to give a shot on this since i usually use a mobile version.
and the site has terrible mobile version , it is not fit on my android smartphone , everything just looks messed up Sad.
and sometimes there's a captcha that i cannot even read it and fill anything there because of it was covered . so i am not sure what feature it is Huh
819  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Does Bitcoin have a future? on: July 04, 2017, 10:19:09 PM
Why would you ask if bitcoin have a future? Don't you believe it has a future? I myself believe it is the future, imagine before it was almost worth nothing but look at its value now. I bet Satoshi Nakamoto wouldn't believe it too it has reached almost $3000. So to answer your question, my answer would be Yes without a doubt it has a future.


It has future if we believe in bitcoin but maybe satoshi nakamoto did not expect that his creation had reach almost $3000 dollars. I myself believe in bitcoin too and it will go at $5000 or $10000. We need to have faith on this.
I think that the question of whether Bitcoin has a future does not make sense, because there would not be such a demand in the market. We really see What is the current price for Bitcoin and according to forecasts of users and experts, we already have much more of yours several times. Therefore, the future will be really very bright.
Future created by us , so when you want a bright future just keep supporting and spreading knowledge around.
Bitcoin will survive as long as it is needed in wide community.
How to make it needed? Just look at any other currency in this world , they comfortable with it. And bitcoin offers something more than that , it is lack of information and understanding.
that is right, it depending on the interest of the people if people are interested in bitcoin they will certainly continue using bitcoin and through this way bitcoin will become more and more popular from time to time and other people will also start taking interest in bitcoin and therefore we can say that bitcoin has a bright future.
yeaaa we just need a massive development by simply keep buying and using bitcoin in daily basis.
so at least it could make sure bitcoin as a digital currency will survive for long time.
and then it could bring a lot of investor too , as they can see a promising future.
820  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: July 04, 2017, 10:12:00 PM
Hi guys!
We all know that gambling is not only a fun but also potential danger. So are you limiting yourself somehow when gambling? DO you use casino's instruments to prevent you spending more money?
Or do you just limit yourself by setting a certain amount of money to spend? Or you don't limit yourself at all?
Thanks for sharing!
Cheers,
Yours OshiHugo, Oshi.io CM

My limit is 0.01BTC for playing in a gambling site. That is the amount that I'm willing to lose. I just play for enjoy and fun and sometimes just to unwind myself from a weeks work. So I deposited that amount play with my own time and if ever I lost, I don't do any deposits again just to recover. And I only target x2 if ever I won then I stop. So getting 0.02 will be fine with me as well. I'm not a addicted gambler now. I already controlled myself when doing gambling. But before I used to lost .03-.1BTC per day.
are you sure? have you ever experiencing right after your lost make another deposit?
based on my experience i have done it several times and so does with other people around me .
they cannot handle the feeling so excited to keep gamble because cannot accept the losses.
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