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And the wall moves up, I think this is gonna keep us bullish for a little while longer.
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500-600$ by friday  I don't think we're going anywhere near there by Friday. Just breaking $400 and staying there is step number 1. |
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I still don't have a clue
Removed the irrelevant bits. I see your still getting on well with everyone Jorge  |
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Wow, crazy....something tells me they don't have insurance.
No chance. bleeding-edge hardware - check high power consumption - check dense packaging - check time-critical installation - check possibly suboptimal cooling - check possibly hastily trained personnel - check I think no insurer in their right might would cover a bitcoin mining operation.  Im sure some insurers would cover farms, Id bet that a lot of the western farms operated by the bigger operators are insured in at least some capacity. Risk and reward though for the operator. The operation would have paid big with the cheaper power/staff/rent by being where it was and possibly somewhere nobody would insure it. |
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Guys where are you watching free streaming for football matches?
SWIM uses wiziwig. If you use ace player and watch an ace stream found on wiziwig, you'll have a hd stream as well... apparently. |
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Some good progress being made guys, well done.
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It should not bother anyone that it is possible to buy and sell a coin using various methods. I was left wondering, what he might think of being the "clear" way then, to force on everyone...  I'm sure that it doesn't bother anyone... further more I'm pretty sure that this will show people those various methods which you were talking about. But part of me is agree with titan86 just because I'm afraid of number different topics! They make me feel uncomfortable because a lot of new information which is actually looks like untrusted information. Maybe I'm wrong but the fact is people don't like a lot of info if the main idea must looks simple. Its not a new topic its just a place where people who wish to make large trades in the thousands not the hundreds can do so otc. If the purpose or topic of the thread doesn't interest you just ignore it! |
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Please read if you are a pool operator.Just so pool operators are aware, advertising pools is no longer allowed, including in coin announcement threads: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=718124.0Any pool that wants to be added to the list on our OP can contact us (pm the Monero Bitcointalk account), and they are allowed to make an ANN thread in the Altcoin Mining section (but not a separate ANN thread for each coin they support). If you post about your pool in this thread or any of the altcoin ANN threads, expect that someone is going to report it and it'll get removed. Wooo, thank goodness for that I get sick of pool advertisments spammed through every ANN thread. |
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Wow Jorge sticking up for shroomsy Ive seen it all now.
I might go into cryo, wake me up when there's trains, rockets and shroomsy insulting Jorge...
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Best part is we chased Tera away, and I swear she was calling for this before she left. Shout out to TERA
Lol, shes always calling for going down but whenever we go up she just happened to change positions at the pivotal moment. I dont see people congratulating the perma bulls when we go up ! |
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windjc, without going into all the other ins and outs of PoS I'm intersted in whether you feel its "fair" that with PoS coins exchanges for example can create value out of thin air just by staking coins that don't belong to them (this is apart from the obvious security issues with keeping PoS coins in hot wallets).
I'm not really a proponent of "fair" so I rarely look at systems from that perspective. Could you reframed your question so I understand it better? Sure, an exchange is simply supposed to be holding coins for you as a third party but they get value out of thin air by staking coins that don't belong to them. Do you think this is fair ? As in do you think proof of stake works when this can be done while not being the true owner of the coins? Lets not also forget that in PoS holding a large percentage of the coins is the same as having a large percentage of the HR in a PoW coin. The difference being that an exchange is being given this power for free and have no financial outlay to acheive this as would be the case with PoW. |
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So now that all Silkroad coins have been liquidated, can we keep on choo choo'ing to da moon please?  That was just the coins held on the server, wait till they liquidate Ulbrichts stash  |
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windjc, without going into all the other ins and outs of PoS I'm intersted in whether you feel its "fair" that with PoS coins exchanges for example can create value out of thin air just by staking coins that don't belong to them (this is apart from the obvious security issues with keeping PoS coins in hot wallets).
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To buy, or not to buy: that is the question.
Obviously we will go up from here. There was quite some selling going but the price simply desn't want to go lower. So up is the way we go! Not too sure why you have changed your mind from Bear to Bull within hours just because we have seen a small rebound. To me this looks like another Bull trap before going lower... Atleast it's good, he changed his mind according to market movement, otherwise emotional trading will be worst case of loosing money. He just wanted to take the focus away from Jorge, shroomsy was getting very upset about the pages dedicated to him so decided to play the role of an emotional trader to get you all talking about him instead |
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Fortunately, miners are only 0.00001% of the population. The rest have to buy coins, and they don't have a concern if it's PoW or PoS as long as it does what they need it to.
How can you be so sure about that? While the number is exagerated the general view is true, think about anyone now wanting to get 1000XMR, are they going to buy it or are they going to spend x amount of time mining it and hoping the difficulty doesn't increase etc. Yes lots of people mine a few coins here and there but for the majoirty of people the larger parts of their holdings are bought. The more questionable part of the statement was the assertion that buyers don't care about PoW or PoS. They might not care about the inner workings, but they damn well care in so far as it affects the security (incl perceived security) and value (incl perceived value) of their investment. To some extent this may be arbitrary or unfair (or perhaps a better word is undeserved). PoS might just has a bad reputation for whatever reasons not based in actual security (and being associated hundreds of PoS scam coins might well be part of the reason), which affects its perceived value and therefore is value. In that case it is still a bad investment (unless you want to make a bet on this changing in the future). Yep fully agree with that, to say that buyers don't care whether they are buying PoW or PoS is nonsensical. I care, most others care . Many will immediately dismiss a coin for being PoS. With so many options in regards to alts around people make quick snap decisions about what they like the look of, with all the PoS scams that have been ran its hardly suprising that people quickly chose not to invest. Its simply harder to make gains on PoS coins when half the crypto community instantly dismisses them. |
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To buy, or not to buy: that is the question.
If your not too sure just buy a percentage of what your willing to spend and then see if you are more confident in a day or so. |
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Fortunately, miners are only 0.00001% of the population. The rest have to buy coins, and they don't have a concern if it's PoW or PoS as long as it does what they need it to.
How can you be so sure about that? While the number is exagerated the general view is true, think about anyone now wanting to get 1000XMR, are they going to buy it or are they going to spend x amount of time mining it and hoping the difficulty doesn't increase etc. Yes lots of people mine a few coins here and there but for the majoirty of people the larger parts of their holdings are bought. |
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Argentina defaults.
An interest payment on debt that "vulture funds" bought at way less than face value in 2001. The experts dont think it will effect their economy like 2001. I dont think its fair for funds to have a country over a barrel like this. |
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Ripple is releasing their first contracts implementation http://codius.org/It looks pretty sweet. Good to have you back and convincing us to buy into the ripple fiasco. |
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Please provide me with the data. Otherwise I am not qualified to comment.
Im not a pool op ask them, I dont have time to ask every single one of them to provide me with the data you need. I was simply making a comment based on moneromoos method for polling pool logs as a way of estimating users on a given day. Based on the knowledge of the mining landscape that I have I dont think it will give you any useful information for a number of reasons. There are the ones outlined above plus the fact that the known pools only make up ~60% of the network, the rest being private pools and solominers. Once you get that data (if you think its useful to you) I look forward to reading your analysis  |
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