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821  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Mt. Gox dude won't let Bitcoin prices rise on: March 27, 2018, 07:04:40 AM
Well, it is not so much about him selling the remaining 160k Mt. Gox coins he has in his wallet as about the fear that many, if not all, buyers of crypto now have because of him. It doesn't even matter if the price crash as of recent was actually due to his massive sell-off, though the evidence seems to be overwhelming. In fact, he may not even sell them at all, not a single satoshi, though this is unlikely given the circumstances, but people will still think that one day he goes nuts about selling these coins at any price, and then prices will be halved again extremely fast. Therefore, Bitcoin won't rise until these coins are gone for good, burned or otherwise disposed of, and people become confident and positive again.

I think it's confirmed that he sold big amounts at the exact times that we saw these sharp red candles, and they tracked the amounts coming from MtGox addresses... Mr Kobayashi is a direct attack on Bitcoin. Trace Mayer or someone with influence on Kraken should tell him to get the fuck out immediately, they need to go OTC, this cannot be tolerated.

if they cannot get their shit together soon, someone else will. A guy with that many coins with only one mission: to crush the market, is a target. He needs to go OTC and he needs go OTC now.

Even if he isn't dumping anymore, everyone is paranoid about until the japanese government makes an official statement about what they are going to do.

I agree with you so much. However, how do we know that he didn't actually try to sell the coins off the market first? He may in fact have tried but there might not have been enough buyers or the price was not as good as he would get in the open market. Let's not forget also that he started selling at or near the top. And that was 20k dollars, not something that you would easily sneeze at or dismiss lightly. Was there anyone willing to buy that many bitcoins at so high a price in the first place? This is the question we should ask ourselves before making sweeping accusations. Besides, it is a free market after all, isn't it?
He had the chance to go the OTC way, since Kraken offered that anyway based on what I read, but he rejected it and decided to load them up on exchanged and then dump them without even bothering what effect it could have on the market. He really waited for the top to dump hard first, and then slowly dropping further.

I wish the court can order him to do his stuff over the counter, but I am not a legal practitioner anyway and I do not know if that can even fly.
822  Economy / Speculation / Re: Beginning of luck in 2018 on: March 26, 2018, 05:33:47 PM
I think we are just going to enter bull markets after very long lasting and painful bear market that ruled us for 3 months or something. After that I expect bitcoin to return back at $15000 level and minimum.
Let's hope that gets to be the case. It is not even about getting there, it is about sustaining that position.
I do not expect bitcoin to start a huge bull run after a huge dump, there would be time for it to consolidate and from there we may get to see what happens next, and usually that is when we may get to see some great recovery, but it all depends as no one can predict exactly what happens fundamentally in the middle of all these. Basically, market will not mind its favorite nor against sentiments. It will keep moving among all kind of scenarios so that we can assume it is completely a neutral.
823  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you still continue? on: March 26, 2018, 04:00:18 PM
That means you are addicted and you need help.
If you are going to deprive yourself of fuel for you own car so you can get to work then you got serious problems. Undecided
Anyone that cannot even control themselves and end up using the little they have left to keep gambling is already an addict and I totally agree such a person needs help. Normally, if you do not have much to spare, you should not even be gambling, and one should only gamble with the little they can afford to lose, because the chances of losing them is high. So, for someone to have gambled everything to the point of being left with just money for fuel? That is way too much. I may get chances to discontinue my gambling only if I am not yet addicted to gambling else continuing will be the only possible way in front of me like most gamblers.
824  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does your family past incidents effect you? on: March 26, 2018, 11:21:14 AM
Hi, i have a question for my gambler's buddies as i'm perplexed by this. I have a friend who really wishes to gamble, but he is not allowed to because his uncle lost his entire assets and some million's and his grandfather to lost another million or so (they're filthy rich). So due to this facts he is barred from gambling, they believe he'll loose money to, they're stopping him on past incidents and i'm really tired of explaining them they're wrong, what do you'll think, anyone else faces such issues?
I dont have this kind of experience but i know a family of gamblers who’ve lost a lot. From riches to rags i call it. If ever i encounter the same situation i would encourage my friend to avoid gambling at all. Experience is the best teacher and he doesnt have to repeat the same mistakes his parends and grand parents did. The proof is visible.
Yes, my grandfather was an addict and he ended up screwing himself in his mid-age before finally giving up to the grave recently. Anytime I think about his story, it makes me wonder how people would use their own hands to inflict suffering on themselves when life already gave them the best.

This man was very wealthy, had a lot of businesses, built houses and even married several wives, but just decided to ruin all he had with a self-infliction from gambling and sold everything at the end before living his old age from hand to mouth. Tell me how such an experience would not make someone like me think twice before gambling at all.
825  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Price of site? on: March 26, 2018, 10:45:00 AM
Really depends on what is going on behind the website.
What is the traffic? Average betting amount, total traffic by volume, those things are really important because they represents how profitable your site is, and a potential buyer take it into consideration to calculate how many funds he may earn in X amount of time.
If you are willing to post this data over the internet then you may get a price estimation over here.
From what someone has already shared, I do not think the traffic is something worth considering in this show as that is the only thing I feel could have given the OP some good buyer in this case.

If the site was properly well done, well, at least it would have been something to consider since all the buyer will have to do is to work on the marketing to bring in more traffic but in this case, there is really nothing much to get from this and whoever would want to buy this will end up not giving much. You may need to make it catchy as it looks extremely simple for a provably fair betting site.
826  Economy / Speculation / Re: Ten years later on: March 25, 2018, 06:46:11 PM
As in the Op the price is predicted to grow at least half a million USD in the upcoming ten years of time. In the same period we don't know what is the true reality. We can just make predictions based on the market, but things take place unexpected same as that happened in the recent months.
Yes, a lot of things that we may not even have in mind or expect usually do happen along the line, but things can still go fine in the middle of it and 10 years is actually far better than some who have predicted that huge amount within just few years like Uncle McAfee Grin ... If all things end up working together fine, with some little challenges here and there of course, it is not something that cannot become a reality based on all the things that has happened in the past. Imagine seeing $6k now as a bottom, who would have thought we would even reach $6k within this short period 7 years ago?
827  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Legitimate exchanges on: March 25, 2018, 02:52:44 PM
There are plenty exchanges in the market as you listed in your post. But in this still many people believe the hacking fake news about binance attack on last week early days. I personally most liked trading sites are Bitrex, Bitfinex and Cryptopia.
As you mentioned yobit should not be possible place to do the trade. There are many scam attempt reported against them this forum and elsewhere. So this would not be in my list at all.

Thanks for your response, but I was more interested in whether you could offer some other alternative exchanges you have found that work and are actually trustable, in this manner we won't be able to stop everyone getting conned but we will be helping more then a few people falling prey to these scam exchanges out there.
You did not add bitfinex on your list. Even though there has been some issue with the USDT stuff, they are still not a bad exchange to use at all. Bitstamp is also one of the oldest and trusted exchanges for anyone to make use of, so you may need to add it. There are so many exchanges, but so far, I can only confirm those ones I have mentioned for you to add up, including the ones you have mentioned, such as bittrex and binance. I would not even add cryptopia to that list.

Risk is riskier when we use a worst exchanges, but use like Binance or bittrex the much lesser risk the better.
Bittrex may be a bad choice if you concern about your anonymity. Binance is relatively new but emerging one. I too suggest binance now a days.
828  Economy / Economics / Re: Choosing the one | What I think! - Real Job or Full Time Crypto! on: March 25, 2018, 02:09:59 PM
For me I will go to a real job because it is more stable and salary is fixed. I just want to make sure my sure income first for my family.

Id rather choose real job because it gives me security that I can have a stable income. Maybe doing crypto just as a part time is ok.
Most of the things that one can do in the cryptocurrency world can easily be done as a part time and get one to earn a lot in the long run or short run, passively without much stress.

I always consider it laziness for someone who has a well-paying job and wants to leave it to join signature campaigns or bounty. Unless such a person has some huge skills that would make him get a lot or can trade perfectly well and take that as a real job, then there is no need leaving job for anything.
829  Economy / Economics / Re: Is fall of bitcoin from 16k$ good for bitcoin and alt-crypto? on: March 25, 2018, 01:36:50 PM
I don't think it is good really , a lot of people lose trust and interest in times like this.
It was what could've been expected, since the market won't be going up in a straight line.
At least the developers are still working and i am still really excited for the future.
Normally, that should not be much of a worry. People can lose interest now, but does that mean the interest would just die down totally. Wait until we start seeing the possibilities of full recovery, then you will understand the level at which people can go when it comes to switching from one lane to the other. The good thing like you said, is that development is going on, things are changing pretty fast in the positive direction, so let's be hopeful.

I also believe that correction is always good, yes i know that many people lose some money but in the long run it will help bitcoin to survive. This is why i believe that bitcoin is not a bubble because the market tends to correct when the pruce goes too much.
People will do lose their money only when they do get panic on seeing corrections and definitely long term holders will not lose. It means if we understand the market fluctuations then we can be sure about bounce back of prices.
830  Economy / Speculation / Re: Short term predictions for BTC price? on: March 24, 2018, 06:47:54 PM
Honestly, I do not think that in this period there will be significant changes in price of bitcoin , and this big crash or crisis in value will continue ( may will last 1 or 2 weeks), due to  some  problems, like, " google banning the crypto ads" and  the significant increases in the value  sales especially  from the capitalists.. and other issues.

On the other hand, the era of bitcoin there are always surprises ( bad and good), and despite all those problems and all enemies (like the governments ..) who want to destroy bitcoin through some attempts, I believe that bitcoin will return more stronger , also the price will also return to the big rise.
Let's just wait and see. So far, things have been stalling without much growth and with the way things are going with all the FUDs and no good news to really cause some bull rally in the market, we are just not making any heads way to the upper side very much. Let us see how these whole things end for now and hope that we get to see a good time in the market as the case may be. For now, it seems the bulls are trying hard to get the market back in shape.
831  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will never reach 20,000 again on: March 24, 2018, 06:15:11 PM
Simply because the WHALES take the profits whenever there's a 5 to 10 percent growth.  The bottom line is Swing trading and Day trading is real and the HODL method is just what it is...


it looks like bitcoin will still be able to get back to the $20k price and chances are this has got to be very good news about bitcoin usage so all countries and all investors can buy bitcoins and automatically will make the price easy to $20k. you better keep what you have when the bitcoin price drops because if you sell it you will surely experience a lot of losses.
That is most definite. We have seen people in the past like OP who thought $10 was impossible to reach and some even though the market was overpriced at $10. Those who have been in this forum long from the beginning will attest to that.

The thing is we all do not know how the future is going to be, but one thing is certain, and that is the fact that bitcoin will not remain stagnant, considering the fact that adoption is even low now.

Who could have thought even early last year that bitcoin would end up getting to that ATH. In fact some people totally ruled out the idea of $5k before the end of the year and here we are testing $6k bottom early this year. How funny is that? We all just keep speculating every now and then but what will be would end up happening and nothing can stop it and I would rather be optimistic for the future than being pessimistic.
832  Economy / Speculation / Re: User sjefdeklerk is spamming FUD news on: March 24, 2018, 05:41:39 PM
He seems to pop up everywhere spewing something claiming the end of bitcoin and encouraging everyone else to sell. The thing that these guys don't realise is it's so obvious, why else would they be here trying to encourage everyone to sell if they truly believed it was the end of bitcoin? Because they're just nice guys and want to protect us from losing our money - fat chance that's true.
He is just a vexed soul who ended up screwing himself as a result of his stupidity and now is looking for someone to join him to suffer the same pains he is presently suffering for selling lower and probably at loss only to end up trying to pick the pieces. I am actually happy a lot of people already perceive him to be this way and at least, maybe he will finally decide to drop his bullshit account that has nothing to offer.

In my opinion these kinds of people have nothing to offer to the community except to keep embarrassing themselves and sharing things that absolutely makes no sense and I actually implore any newbie to do the same. After all, if everyone places him on ignore list, he will be busy writing his own post and answering them by himself with no one paying attention to him.
833  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The Virtues of the Great HODL on: March 24, 2018, 03:12:23 PM
Discipline yourself before joining a long term hold cause after that there's no bitching back there is a chance that you could be broke if you anic and sel almost everything in your holds rather than holding it until it's good enough.
I feel that is the most important thing here because if you do not discipline yourself, the chances of falling for FUDs unnecessarily will be possible for someone who is really having a shaky mind. When the market recovers, it may be very hard to start catching up, so the best thing is to always learn how to hold and make a good profit in the long run when it recovers, as the coins always come back big.

It is just common sense, why will you ever sell at all when you are already in a huge loss ? I have never seen a single market that does not end up recovering in the long run, and one would be happy he or she was able to garner those patience and discipline to wait because you will definitely be reaping the great benefit as time goes on when the recovery eventually happens.
834  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: has trading become difficult? on: March 24, 2018, 01:33:43 PM
To be quite honest, I loathe day trading lol but now am in a trading contest on COSS exchange and it is lasting for a whole two months which for me is super stressful. I do not know if I want to enter another trading contest again, but for now I will keep at this one. I think trading is hard in general because the crypto market is small, it is so easy to manipulation by the big whales and pump and dump groups. So if you are working as an individual in a sea of sharks and whales, you will most likely get eaten roflmao. I tend to be a hodler myself, not sure though if that is good or bad right now though as my portfolio has really shrunk.
I heard about the COSS contest too and that is pretty awesome. Good to hear that COSS is really trying as much as possible to get the system up and running fast for the benefit of the holders since I am one of them, and I believe in them doing a great job in the long run anyway.

That being said, trading is not an easy job and we all know that it takes a level of understanding, some real level of dedication to be able to do well in trading, you even tried that you made a decision to day trade.
835  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is trend Now? on: March 24, 2018, 12:48:00 PM
In my opinion we are still in an upward trend and the correction is likely already coming to an end, although one can not rule out another campaign to touch the bottoms.

Hopefully, in the beginning of 2018, too many hurricanes and the consequence of that will be the red market, making the fortune of many people unhappy.
New people are already unhappy with the state of things today. Just look at what is happening to the market today, a complete decline. In many coins, the loss is more than 50%.
Maybe the new people should start asking themselves how long it took for bitcoin to get from less than a dollar to this particular price and maybe, just maybe, they will learn how to be patient and know that it is not every time market will just keep rising.

I feel a lot of people are really missing the point, and what we have now are just people who are so greedy which is what is generally affecting the market. I know it is not easy when you see the value of your holding dropping, but those who are saying HODL, are not fools. It is from experience.
836  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: HOLD by TRADE , that is possible? on: March 23, 2018, 05:43:32 PM
I am not really to sure of holding by trade but what I do know is that I always buy my coins when the price is low and sell them when it increases its value. But for those coins which I think I'll have greater profits for long term, that's when I hold them. Like for instance XEM; I really believe this coin will be great in the near future, so instead of selling them at a higher price or when the price increases; I would tell myself not to sell them even if the amount is so deceiving.
I am not also a big fan of trading, not because I don't see any potential profit here but I know that it really consumes most of your time, but I am trading some coins that I know I can hold for at least a year, but still keeping my eye on it because If you don't watch your coins you can lose all of it.
Trading does not necessarily have to consume most of your time as that totally depends on your style of trading. There is a mistake a lot of people usually make and that is to think that you only have to day trade before you trade.

You can either go short term or long term and that depends on the time you have at hand to spare and what is convenient for you. The most important thing is that not everyone can trade, but for those who can, they have more advantage than those who are holding, but not like holding is bad.
837  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Try to recover loss on: March 21, 2018, 01:18:48 PM
it's easy to find a legitimate trading or investment and you spend all your money so you get back to what you do not have to do just as you are not familiar so you can not lose it.
You can recover what all you have lost in either trading or any other investment but fir that you need to remain determined having a goal of getting far more than what you have lost. You need to keep on investing small amount of money and that you need not to repeat the similar mistakes which you have made in the past and that you only need to sell at time when the market is high enough.
Holders generally do not lose until they lose out by withdrawing even with the loss.
What is there to wait for someone who actually decided to go long in the first place? It took so many years for bitcoin to even get to this stage, so why is every new investors today always in a rush ?

Bitcoin is not a get rich quick scheme and everyone investing should always understand the volatility risk before investing at all and that is one way to always stay out of panic.
838  Economy / Speculation / Re: What if Bitcoin price drops even further? on: March 21, 2018, 12:33:33 PM
I don't want to sound I am panicking, but the price of BTC has reached the lowest point this month. Checking on the chart of this quarter on 5Feb there was this dip when the price of BTC even went down to $6,500

I heard people around me they believe BTC price will even fall further. Is this really gonna happen?


It is possible to happen considering that bitcoin price movements has been up for a prolonged period of time and lots of uncertainty are going on(because of FUD's. I don't think it will fall back to as low as 2000-1500$ though if that happens it will be a real dilemma and we might see sub 1000$ again. Either way, the price is better comparing to when it was sitting at 200-500$ so it is not bad. Just don't panic sell for now it is wiser to hold.
Yes, anything can happen and from the look of everything most especially with the low buying pressure, any slight panic can cause a quick sell off very fast. If we end up seeing a really low price at the end of the day, it would really be crazy but at the same time be a whooping time to get back in at a very sweet amount knowing that may be hard to come by ever again in the future.

If it drops further then we buy further. First, bitcoin's value went way below $6500. Secondly, going further down does not mean it is the end of the world or the end of bitcoin, as that apparently gives an opportunity to buy back under-priced and if anyone is willing to give me at that price, I would be willing to buy it.

OP's question is what if, and the answer is, it changes nothing and we should stop listening to everything that we hear unless we can make decision all by ourselves and if we cannot, just hold because we may end up selling at the wrong time.
839  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin's bottum price? on: March 21, 2018, 10:02:57 AM
Today Bitcoin almost reaching the lowest price on 5 Feb of $7,200. Check out chart: https://www.coinranker.net/cryptocurrency/bitcoin

Will Bitcoin get lower from this point or is the dip over?

We already broke most resistance points. The only last hope I see now is to have the line that goes from $2972 to $5890 (Bitstamp prices) so if we are going to hope for something, is a bounce in there, which would incidentally coincide with around $7000.. if that breaks.. it wouldn't be looking good unless you believe in double bottoms and trace a line to $5890, and after that we would be looking at around $3000... at that point it would be unreasonably underpriced, which means anyone with a brain will start buying with huge amounts, which means the price will bounce up real fast.
Yes, however, going down below $5890 from the last bottom this year does not sound like something that may play out as the market is really looking forward to that and there may be some huge buy orders kicking in at that time.

Nevertheless, anything is still possible, as we have actually gotten beaten lower than we would have expected with the MA200 even getting pierced lower in the last bottom, I really hope we do not get as low as $3000 for the market sake, but whatever it is, buying it is at that price. I would even borrow to buy Grin
840  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling: Culture on: March 21, 2018, 06:10:57 AM
Previously though not illegal, gambling was severely frowned upon the society in my country but right now, People really don't care and almost everyone is currently gambling from kids even to the old people because people have realized that money is more important than culture.
I guess it not only in your country because in the ancient time, in most countries, a person who always gamble or visit a gamble house is been marked as a wayward person; Its just some cultures view of it. But recently things are been changing even kids gamble and are proud to say it openly because they feel they are doing the right thing. In someway, when you look at it, you feel the ancient ways are better.
Agreed and even up till now, in some societies, that still happens. In my country, they always feel that anyone who gambles is either too lazy to find a real job and looking for a shortcut which eventually gets him into a tighter corner than he was before.

However, for some who do it reasonably or for fun, they really do not go out advertising their exploits to the whole world anyway. It is a jet age though, and people no longer feell responsible for anyone which makes them to do whatever without caring what the society feels unlike back in those days.
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