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881  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: October 22, 2015, 12:06:25 AM
Why would a normal person with more than 90 IQ trust ANY politician anyway?
All politicians are same. They only think their own welfare, nothing for humanity.

Because until there is any other "reasonable" alternative to run a big developed country such as in the EU or in North America, for example, then there will always be a need for a politician(s) to run the country... a stable country cannot simply live in an anarchist world.


If only we the people could elect humans for whom they truly are and not "nudged" to do so. This statement is for R or the D. Of course more for the D

  Wink


Even though I affiliate my self with the Republican party (even though I'm more libertarian than anything), both parties do in fact "nudge" people to elect certain candidates, whether it's for the countries favor or not.

Also, it seems people now n' days are more for the "diversification" of the white house more than anything.  People where so ecstatic when Barack came in because he was forever to be known as "the first black man in the white house", that people (mainly democrats) where nearly pissing themselves from excitement.  Now that hype and trend is now over... and feminist all around (who again, are mainly democratic) are looking for a the "first lady president in the white house".  It seems that democrats love to paint a picture of republicans as some "redneck, racist hick" who has no sympathy for people, but when people like Ben Carson comes along who is black (I don't support by the way), they just simply ignore the matter; or if they do delve in on the topic, they are quick to point out that he is an "Uncle Tom" sell out.

Politics are a necessity in life that is just a complete headache... along with a lot of other necessities in life.
882  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin: Should you stay or should you go? on: October 21, 2015, 11:58:55 PM
Stay... day by day more and more people learn about Bitcoin and investors learn that it's more important than they thought and invest more

This will be inevitably easier now for investors (in the U.S.) to do "legit" investing with the help of Gemini now... Even though I don't necessarily support them, in terms of providing to much personal information; it will help mainstream adoption, and get major investors into the game I think.
883  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What exactly is bitcoin halving? on: October 21, 2015, 11:43:51 PM
So to conclude, there is really no reason why bitcoin price will go up after the 2nd halving?Only the supply and demand will really affect the price. But what if the price will not go up then what if the miners would not be interested into mining anymore because of the lesser reward, wouldn't that be a bad sign for bitcoin?  Undecided

Essentially, yeah... that would be a bad sign for bitcoin.  But I would say even if the user base stays the same, and the demand is kept relatively where it's at right now, I would say the price will still go up... because the amount of available coins produced by miners will go down, therefore making it more scarce.

Though, you can't really tell if bitcoin (or any other coin for that matter) will end up being very successful just based on price in fiat.  Even though that is one of the major indicators, that's not necessarily all of the things that indicate success... full nodes being ran, market size, business adoption, etc. etc. the list could go on.
884  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What exactly is bitcoin halving? on: October 21, 2015, 11:32:04 PM
Some people think that the subsequent reduction in supply will drive up the price. I don't really buy that. There's already enough coins out there to meet demand and of the coins traded every day, the volume is multiple times more than the mined coins arriving. If demand rose significantly then it might be a factor but outside sentiment, which is more important than anything so it does count, I don't think there's any other reason for it to rise.

I understand the supply and demand thing. So what you mean is that the price increase after the halving does not have a solid proof that it will really increase at all? Huh

No certainties. Pretty simple, I must say: if demand stays the same or increase, value will increase; if demand decrease and supply decrease, price will go down. Also in the second scenario, miners that won't profit in these terms would likely leave the scene for a while or leave completely.

I am very wary of halvings, as I have seen the negative effects of halvings in many other coins before. Bitcoin is too small compared to the general economy to work completely like a commodity: halving reduces the excitement brought by mining - this reduced excitement could have a negative impact on price.

I'm not so sure if this really will necessarily reduce the "excitement" of mining for miners, but it will hurt them for sure.  But that's not to say that they will necessarily stop; they just might start to look elsewhere to move mining farms for cheaper electricity costs, or better ways to improve consumption of energy, like investing in solar energy for example.

But all in all though, there is just simply too much money invested by mining farms for them to just completely stop in general.  I know the basic economics of how a business is maintained and run, and once you go below a certain threshold of incoming currency where the business is steadily losing money, then it's not sustainable any more and the business will have to close... but when a "normal" business closes, they will sell off property, assets, and other things to make money back.  It will be hard for miners to find people to buy a fuck ton of ASIC's and other mining hardware, or at least, I would think so at least... maybe if they sell it at a ridiculously low price.
885  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buying Bitcoin was a worst decision of my life on: October 21, 2015, 11:24:20 PM
People place all their eggs into one basket and then think, why did I do that.  It wasn't buying Bitcoins that was a bad decision.  It was your lack of understanding that was bad.  You could have replaced this with any trend and you probably would have done the same thing.  Always have a plan when it comes to your money.

I guess it's the same when people (older than my generation) look at photos of themselves back in high school in the 70's and think, "Why the fuck did I wear those bell bottom jeans?", and of course, "Mutton Chops with a mullet? Wow, I really looked like a tool, how did I ever come to the conclusion of rocking that look?"

But then we get back to this question... what if it slowly but surely gets to the $1,000+ range again?  Will people just assume that the same bubble was/is formed and automatically cash out?
886  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: October 21, 2015, 11:13:59 PM


What about this guy AP?  Seems like Charles is looking for a new home after Etherum kicked his ass, why not invite him in our comfy home?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1215122.msg12750323#msg12750323
 
 
Shit. 
 
I'm listening to his podcast now.  He's obviously extraordinarily intelligent and well-spoken.  As someone who has worked on Bitshares and Ethereum, recruiting him into the Monero fold would be a massive win (both for him and the technology).  One issue would be convincing him to fold his individual efforts into our own, and I wouldn't be surprised if he has some hesitance to that idea; he may have a well-earned ego as a pioneer of some truly visionary crypto-projects.  To join Monero might not seem as glamorous as launching his own new currency, but it is the correct path forward.  After all, we don't all get to own our own internets - we need to agree on one protocol and build on top of it (see AOL vs. CompuServe vs. "just the internet").  The other challenge might be to correct any existing misconceptions he may have about Monero as "just another altcoin like Dash". 
 
Let me finish the podcast and formulate my thoughts.  I'm certain that he's heard of Monero already; I'm wondering what his current thoughts are on it.
 


I've already listened to the whole thing, and he does hint at some new alt coins having the potential to posses better qualities which make it value... but if I heard everything correctly (went to the bathroom for a minute and came back) he didn't mention monero specifically... but he does talk about things like dash, ethereum, ripple, and other things of that nature.
887  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: October 21, 2015, 10:25:29 PM
Why would a normal person with more than 90 IQ trust ANY politician anyway?
All politicians are same. They only think their own welfare, nothing for humanity.

Because until there is any other "reasonable" alternative to run a big developed country such as in the EU or in North America, for example, then there will always be a need for a politician(s) to run the country... a stable country cannot simply live in an anarchist world.
888  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] eMunie (EMU) - NOT a BitCoin fork/clone - call for beta testers on: October 21, 2015, 10:01:45 PM
Hey, so what's the current status of eMunie?  Will there be another beta testing coming soon? If so I'd like to participate if I could.
889  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Future of Cryptocurrencies - Virgin Media on: October 21, 2015, 09:51:46 PM
Listened to this today! Brilliant!

Great work. Also your course on Udemy is very good! One of my projects under development is to help everyday people to enter the Bitcoin world and become more knowledgeable in the monetary system.

Where is his courses located on Udemy?  I'd personally just like to brush up on my knowledge and see if I fully understand everything that is going on in the current world of bitcoin.  Also, thanks for the link charles... I can see this as a very positive movement for bitcoin.  Hopefully from here on out we will see a steady growth.
890  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Noob Mistakes on: October 21, 2015, 09:32:31 PM
Haha, I remember talking to my uncle in 2012 about this before the big spike (stock broker for J.P. Morgan).  He was pretty adamant I didn't buy in or use it because it's "virtual" money, and not "real"... also he brought a point, which I thought was pretty good at the time; he basically said:
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"do you really believe that a small group of dorks with computers are going to create a currency online that is going to be any substantial worth?  Do you really think that the small group of dorks who create that currency are going to overtake the small group of very wealthy/powerful white men that's in charge of the private banks?"

So I took his word for granted because he is a very successful stock trader... I didn't get much at the time and just watched as the prices sore through the roof the following year.  Then, after that whole fiasco of rumors that the CEO of bitcoin was arrested; I remember talking to my uncle, in which he told me, "See arn't you happy you didn't invest in such a thing?"  I wanted to tell him no, but I just nodded my head... I knew something was fishy and was probably some kind of ruse...

I should probably trust my self a lot more often and not listen to other people...
891  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What exactly is bitcoin halving? on: October 21, 2015, 09:19:54 PM
So in the speculation board I see posts that says bitcoin price will go up ince the halving occurs. What halving is really? How does it affects the price of bitcoin? Kindly please explain as I don't have any idea what these are. Cheesy
For the first four years that Bitcoin existed miners were paid 50 Bitcoins per block.  Then after those four years the amount paid to the Bitcoin miners was cut in half to 25 Bitcoins per block.  This was the so called "first halving" now after the second four years the amount paid to the miner is scheduled to be cut in half again, this time to 12.5 Bitcoins per block.  This is the second "halving".  By design the amount paid to the Bitcoin miners will be cut in half about every four years until the year 2140.

Haha - It would be Nice if the Bitcoin price would rise again. I would simply would like to know if there are any connections with the Bitcoin rise over 1k$. Would be greatto have this on the next Bitcoin Halving.

Does anybody knows how long it takes from now? Would be great to know.

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Do you just mean the bitcoin halving in general?  The next halving is scheduled to happen this coming up summer in 2016... so there is still time to accumulate as much as you can (or better yet, as much as you can without breaking the bank) before it begins... I would speculate we are going to see a pretty good price increase sometime during spring before all this happens; but with every great pump that happens, there will be a great dump to counteract that... so during that time, just be careful when you buy bitcoin.
892  Economy / Speculation / Re: yay btc goes ~$250 ! on: October 21, 2015, 09:15:27 PM
Perhaps this will be a slowly raising price due to the halving next year, making for a soft raise, instead of going down and up abruptly...

Which is the best thing for bitcoin in general... marginal traders love a volatile market to make a quick profit, but if they see that the price is going to rise and fall, at the most, around $6 or so dollars.. then they won't even bother.  This is a very good thing for people who want to see an increase in price that's going to matter in the long run, rather than some pump and dump fiasco as was seen in 2013.
893  Economy / Services / Re: ★☆★ MagicalDice Signature campaign - Earn up to 0.15 BTC per week! [Open] ★☆★ on: October 21, 2015, 09:11:59 PM
Hey yahoo...

I don't know what's the ETA on the payment like?  I've checked on the site, and looked at last time stars was seen, and he hasn't been active on magical dice since about 3 days ago... Huh
894  Economy / Goods / Re: WTB Paper Letter from US, Maryland or Washington 0.2 btc. on: October 21, 2015, 08:44:06 PM
Need express mail letter from US(Maryland or Washington) with 5-7 blank paper (a4 or letter) lists, pm plz.

Just need a mailing envelope with stamps and weighing several sheets of paper, nothing illegal.

0.2 btc?

Lists but blank? How can a list be blank? And what possible legal purpose would there be in specifying the weight of something with no substance? Nobody has blank paper where you live?

Haha, I was just thinking the same thing... If I lived in Maryland or DC I would definitely do it, but I don't live in those areas in the US...

I don't see how this could be at all profitable for you?  Why do you need this type of stuff?
895  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 21, 2015, 08:25:57 PM
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I am pessimistic because I don't see the fundamentals for a new bubble sustainable growth. the ongoing discussion about small vs big blocks shows that not even the devs and early adopters know where to go from this point with the blockchain.

I thought the devs where pretty set on the big blocks by now, and were just deciding on which proposal to implement, and so forth?  Plus, this recent increase in price hasn't really been that much of a bubble... from about a week ago it's only increased in price by like $10, and continues to steadily increase.  I don't see it as much of a "bubble" like it was in early and late 2013.  Now those bubbles in itself was pure manipulation by Gox.
896  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why is Bitcoin better that fiat? on: October 21, 2015, 08:01:04 PM
For one, I know my bank is going to back up anything that gets stolen or hacked.
Exactly who do you think it is that actually pays for that insurance, in the end?

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If my Bitcoin account gets hacked or anything, I am screwed.  There is no chance of me recovering those funds.
Your Bitcoin what? There are no "accounts" whatsoever with Bitcoin.

And actually, you can backup your Bitcoin wallet. For example if you have a mobile phone and your phone gets stolen, it's password protected so the thief can't spend your coins, and you can have a backup to put back your funds on a new phone. Try that with cash (fiat) money Smiley

My Bitcoin wallet, if the funds get drained from there there is not getting them back.  I can try and try but I will never find the coins ever again.  There is some good to having Gov't control fiat, I am not saying it is all good there is just some.

Yeah, I mean you do have the possibility of getting your private key stolen if you keep your key on your computer somewhere... but that all can be avoided by keeping your private key on a piece of paper, and not clicking on any random links that could pose as phishing attacks.  Other than that, the chances of someone hacking into your wallet are pretty much slim to none.
897  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 21, 2015, 07:39:23 PM

Yeah, just as fake as the $255 dollars that people were buying my BTC for, the same $255 dollars per BTC I withdrew to vacation in the Bahamas.  Aahhh,  I have fond memories of that fake vacation.  At least I can go back and look at all those fake pictures I took to reminisce.


I didn't withdraw my coins for 255 then, just sold and waited for the crash to 60.

If you wanna sell your coins now for $255, I'll buy 40 of them for cash. 

Ohhhh, shhhhiiiiii...

But seriously tarmi... what is the ultimate reason for your pessimistic views on the value of bitcoin?  You have to have something figured up in your head that gives you a reasoning for your hard views.  If you're so sure that bitcoin is going to tank to $60, then please enlighten us as to why.  Especially since there are more and more businesses and companies accepting, mining, exchanging bitcoins... ?
898  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 21, 2015, 05:51:19 PM
... Gox Bot myth.
Savvy investors agree:
...
I'm NOT joking.  I bought my first Bitcoin at that price - $1,201.35.  Actually to be more specific, I bought it on November 29, 2013 through a person I met through local bitcoins.  I bought in cash 1.2486 BTC for $1,500 USD.

That would make anyone cringe now thinking back on it... but hopefully with more of the "bullish" news coming out that the Chinese government might make bitcoin less restricted over there, and the fact that the halving is coming next year; we'll see a steady increase from here on out.  So hopefully JayJuanGee can make his money back if he hasn't already dumped his coins yet and holding on to them for better days ahead.
899  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Astronomers may have found alien megastructures orbiting star near the Milky Way on: October 21, 2015, 05:32:36 PM
scientists are nerds and nerds want to believe in aliens. its speculation and not really science but mostly scientists like to throw provocative headlines like this out there because it can translate into funding.

Well I mean it could translate into funding, but remember that these guys who found it are working for a university and not, say, NASA... There might be a bit of funding from the university to do some more research into the matter, but I wouldn't think that they would be throwing millions of dollars toward them at all (not even close to that number probably).
900  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What exactly is bitcoin halving? on: October 21, 2015, 05:29:43 PM
It's when the number of coins the miners get for mining each block gets reduced by half. Today they get 25 Bitcoins for mining each block, and there's about 6 blocks mined per hour. During next summer the number of coins they get for each block gets reduced to 12 and a half.

Miners have to pay electricity bills that mining runs up so they frequently sell their mined Bitcoins and that brings the price of Bitcoin down. When the number of coins they get for mining gets reduced by half next summer they will only have half as many coins to sell as they do now. That should help the Bitcoin price rise because there will be less pressure pushing it down from miners selling.

Yep, pretty much this.  The fact that bitcoins will be "more scarce" to the miners and exchange sites, that will make bitcoin more valuable; assuming that the demand for bitcoins will remain the same. 

Consider the Californian Gold Rush for example... when (actual) miners started out, they were finding tons of gold and selling them to make a living.  Since then, the price of gold is a lot more than what the miners of those times were selling their gold for.
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