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881  Economy / Economics / Re: The interest in Bitcoin in Turkey on: July 19, 2022, 11:59:13 PM
It has been claimed residents of turkey are investing in tether and stablecoins as inflation protected assets. To protect their wealth against inflation. The dollar is strong on FOREX markets, which translates to elevated demand of US dollar pegged assets like tether. I think that was turkeys gateway drug to becoming more interested in crypto and the opportunities and tools it can provide.

There have been similar previous in other countries. Cuban migrants used bitcoin to send funds to their family in cuba. Venezuelans with free electricity mined bitcoin in the early days before the caracas hydroelectric dam failed. There are still many today with access to free electricity who mine bitcoin. Although the practice appears to be on a decline with other crypto coins and tokens being more profitable from a mining perspective.

What would people think if Putin released a stablecoin pegged to the russian ruble. Would that be god tier trolling? At least it might give people something to laugh about.
882  Economy / Economics / Re: Remain decentralized with crypto or centralized with banks. on: July 19, 2022, 11:51:19 PM
Is now a good time to invest in businesses and services which are not regulated under $10k reporting requirements?

There must still be good ways to move money that they haven't regulated. Which will see volumes rise in coming years.

Could the future of finance and business be defined by those few remaining loopholes being closed one by one.

On a global scale, some nations are tightening financial reporting and taxation. Causing many residents to renounce their citizenship and flee elsewhere.

While other nations are loosening financial reporting and taxation to attract digital nomads and whales into residing within their borders.

Its a curious struggle occurring at the moment. Wonder what the end result will be.
883  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling on Psychology & Sociology Perspectives. on: July 19, 2022, 11:34:26 PM
Chinese have their own collection of stereotypes and superstitions. The number 4 is considered unlucky to them. They avoid living in apartments with the #4. They avoid eating hot or cold food depending on the time of day. They have a number of quirks that are interesting.

The biggest revenue stream in video gaming is micro transaction based coupled with loot boxes. Many game developers were forced to abandon lootboxes due to it being regulated under gambling. But casinos and gambling institutions have no such limitation. I like the idea of expanding on small cap gambling for those who wish only to "test their luck".

Its very negative when someone loses a life changing amount of money gambling. If a person loses $20,000 that is terrible.

Small cap gambling involving very small amounts of money are a healthier precedent. It may also be more profitable if people know they will be protected from losing larger sums of money under a micro transaction and extreme low minimum wager environment.
884  Economy / Economics / Re: U prepared for great depresion or u want to be surprised? on: July 19, 2022, 11:28:06 PM
Many social media influencers are being smug and cocky about a crash. They post pictures of themselves with a gun and say they're "fully prepared". As if they plan to use gun ammunition as fuel or food. It is a strange world we live in, with strange people.

I have prepared for a crash for many years, and I'm not well prepared. If the doom and gloom doesn't hit after a period of years. It becomes normalized to assume it will never happen. The confidence and smugness many have over the next recession must be fueled by a firm belief that it will never occur.

Most buy a gun and focus primarily on home defense. Or grow their own food to focus on self sustainability. A big crash could extend to transportation, communication and energy as well as the basic fundamentals. I don't think there's anyone who is fully prepared for that.
885  Economy / Economics / 6 Design Principles for a Successful Central Bank Digital Currency on: July 18, 2022, 11:31:01 PM
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By Andrea Civelli, PhD, Senior Economist at Algorand, Inc., and Co-Pierre Georg, PhD, Algorand Foundation Economic Advisory Council member

Practically all central banks rely on their country’s banking sector as their primary means to enforce monetary policy. While in the era of paper money and the fractional bank system this model mostly worked, the rapid digitalization of finance means that central banks will need to shift to new types of monies and intermediaries as the world evolves to digital and cryptographic forms of currency.

This is why countries should move forward with a blockchain-based, hybrid model of central bank digital currency (CBDC), issued on a private instance of a public third-generation blockchain directly overseen by their central banks. In this model, central banks retain full control over the CBDC, while simultaneously allowing commercial banks, remittance providers, and other fintech companies to facilitate currency distribution and transactions.

By no means will a system like this replace dollars and cents—the infrastructure and network of the CBDC blockchain will instead complement and help modernize the current payment system of a nation. The open nature of blockchain will allow for competition among financial service providers and hence prevent vendor lock-in. By introducing competition, central banks will be better able to serve their constituents by embracing innovative payment solutions and business models that ultimately drive the cost per transaction down.

For central banks to successfully introduce a CBDC, here are six design principles they need to consider:

1. It needs to be as trusted as cash

The key challenge when issuing a CBDC is that people need to trust it as much as its physical counterpart. This is one of the main reasons why cash issuance is so expensive: trust in cash requires a central bank to ensure that notes cannot be counterfeited and that the cash supply chain is secure. Counterfeiting CBDC issued on a third-generation distributed ledger is impossible thanks to the ledger’s cryptographic primitives. By contrast, entries on centralized ledgers can be manipulated if the ledger’s database is hacked or otherwise compromised. Eliminating cybersecurity risks will, therefore, be absolutely essential for centralized digital currencies.

Another element of trust is that the digital-analog of cash must, like its physical counterpart, have immediate settlement finality, meaning money is in the hands of the other party as soon as a transaction is complete. This is why it’s vital that the blockchain a CBDC is built on has immediate settlement finality.

2. It needs to be able to scale for a seamless user experience

Most blockchains to date, particularly those based on a proof-of-work algorithm like Bitcoin have been plagued by scalability issues and an insufficient number of transactions per second to meet even the light loads placed on them by early adopters. To reliably handle the transactions for a larger country with about 50 million CBDC users, each of which transact about two to three times per day, the CBDC would have to handle on average 1,500 transactions per second. This is a factor of 100 more than the standard proof-of-work blockchains process today, but comfortably within reach of modern proof-of-stake blockchains.

Scalability is key for a seamless user experience, which, in turn, is key for the adoption and acceptance of the new payment instrument. If users have to wait several seconds even for low-value transactions to clear, many essential use cases for cash will be inaccessible for a CBDC (even when central banks want a CBDC to complement, not replace, cash).

3. It needs to be private but fully auditable

Privacy is a human right and a necessary condition for broad adoption. For a CBDC to be successful, It is paramount to balance this right carefully with the regulatory need to ensure that transactions are KYC/AML compliant. This requires a layered approach to privacy with adjustable limits for fully private, partially private, and fully auditable transactions. Importantly, central banks must have full control over the thresholds between the different layers of privacy and be able to change these as necessary.

This layered approach to privacy is both practical and in stark contrast to the approach private crypto assets like Bitcoin and Ethereum have chosen, where there is no native notion of privacy. These blockchains instead rely on pseudonymous addresses as a means of protecting user privacy. This approach to privacy is in direct conflict with existing KYC/AML requirements. Rather than fixing this protocol flaw, it is better for a blockchain to have been designed for privacy from the beginning.

4. It needs to be inclusive

For a payment instrument to be universally accepted and trusted, it needs to be available to everyone in a country. This is a significant challenge for central banks because smartphone penetration is far from perfect, even in the United States where it stands at about 80 percent, and more so in emerging markets like India where smartphone penetration sits at around 37 percent. With limited smartphone penetration, a substantial fraction of the population will not only struggle to transact using CBDC, but even to gain access to it. This is of particular importance for unbanked people in emerging markets, and especially for refugees.

Another challenge to full inclusivity is identity—especially in emerging markets, people do not always have identity documents. In their 2016 paper "A Blueprint for Digital Identity," the World Economic Forum highlights the importance of building digital identity infrastructure for the future of financial infrastructure. Central banks issuing CBDC will have to seek broad stakeholder engagement to solve the digital identity challenge.

5. It needs interoperability

The hardest part of designing new financial infrastructure is developing the protocols and processes in a robust and resilient way that is compatible not just with legacy systems but also with future ones. This is why it’s vital CBDCs need to be built on an open platform that can’t be captured by any private actors while giving central banks and government agencies full control over which users and use cases are allowed.

6. It needs to incentivize competition

The rise of private digital assets has set off a flurry of innovation among small startups, large banks, and big tech companies alike. A lot of this innovation, however, happens outside of the purview of existing regulatory bodies. Consequently, billions of dollars worth of transactions are happening outside of official sight, and then settled to fiat. An official state-sponsored digital currency can allow much more of this digital innovation to happen in the light of day.

To foster competition, an open system without barriers to entry is paramount. No walled garden solution can achieve this because its rules can be modified at any time by the solution provider, destroying incentives for competition.




https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/6-design-principles-for-a-successful-central-bank-digital-currency


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Here we have a write up with a list of proposals for the future format CBDCs should adhere to.

There have been a few different drafts and proposals released for feedback since venezuela 1st announced its petro cryptocurrency based CBDC some years ago.

One early proposal for a CBDC I read called for CBDC currency to be issued with an expiration date to prevent it from being saved over the long term. I'm glad newer drafts and proposals appear to have done away with that design feature. Some of the latest CBDC proposals are looking much more refined and polished.

I'm curious as to how they would propose to make CBDC accessible to unbanked demographics. Bitcoin claims to cater to an unbanked demographic of 4 billion around the globe. Certainly that must be the growth demographic offering the most potential.

The last design principle #6 could be impossible due to the trust based system CBDC functions on requiring a greater number of staff, brick and mortar establishments and infrastructure in contrast to crypto. The greater overhead and reduced efficiency could make it difficult to compete with crypto which trends towards being more barebones in design under trustless architecture. But still it is nice to see people thinking and coming up with new ideas and approaches to things.
886  Economy / Economics / Re: What are your honest thoughts on Crypto in the future, given what is happening n on: July 18, 2022, 11:25:50 PM
I'll always support bitcoin and crypto. I love the idea of progress and innovation being made which carries the potential to change how we think about and use money. Its great to see all of the new financial ecosystems which sprung into existence catering to different niche markets. The evolution of it is powerful enough to shake the foundations of finance. To where established giants like banks, mastercard and visa lost market share to it.

Given the way some in el salvador resist crypto, it would appear that some in the world oppose innovation and progress for civilization. Perhaps those who oppose crypto secretly want to abolish technology and regress us all back to a stone age. There will be conflict between those who support progress and those who oppose it. And who knows what might happen then. The future isn't clear as those who oppose crypto are not clear or concise on their motives for doing so.

Over the past decade, it seems that we are increasingly losing options and opportunities. Doors are being closed everywhere we look. Wealth is becoming more difficult to protect against inflation. If bitcoin and crypto are somehow lost it will be more doors closed and more opportunities denied us.
887  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you look down on Bushy or undeveloped areas? on: July 18, 2022, 11:14:15 PM
Do you think buying your first landed property in a bushy area is a good investment for the future.



There are those who enjoy digging holes in the ground. Moving rocks and earth to shape the land. Developing an overgrown lot of bushes and trees comes easy to some. I enjoy that type of activity as it stops me from thinking about things and overanalyzing. It can be like a form of therapy. As a job, it can be like being paid to exercise and work out. Getting paid to burn calories and stay in shape.

Las Vegas was built on the cheapest land that could be found, in a desert. The original buyers developed it into massively profitable real estate, hotels and casinos. There definitely is profit potential in flipping lots and real estate. With creative financing, fractional real estate development and government loans. It could be easier to qualify for real estate today than it was in the last few previous eras.

On the negative side, property taxes are rising significantly in some US states. There are also restrictions being passed which could make it harder to sell property once bought.

Real estate in states like california and new york are generally losing value. While states like florida and texas are gaining value. They always emphasize location, location, when it comes to real estate. Its very important for a reason. Every state has their own regulations, taxes and code. Which could make what would be a good investment in one state, a bad investment in another.
888  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Game Theory Optimal (GTO) vs Exploitative play on: July 18, 2022, 10:51:45 PM
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The Game Theory Optimal is a strategy that leaves you unexploitable by other players. This makes you almost impossible to beat

Additionally, this strategy guarantees to make money


Interesting keywords in the write up. 

I prefer to have a mentality of there not being any safe place or safe strategy that guarantees anything. Its like combat sports where people tend to oversimplify things. They say if you keep your hands up in a defensive posture, you'll be safe and never be knocked out. But in reality, that's not how things work. Details matter.

Paying attention to the second by second action of the game and making the right calls are perhaps where the emphasis and focus should be. Honing the mentality, self belief, instincts and feel for the game that can allow a person to walk out a winner. The game isn't all offense. People train defense as well. Keeping a calm poker face, no matter the stakes or cards. Staying mentally disciplined and sticking to the gameplan. Poker may seem like a simple game on the surface. But there are definitely different sides to it, where a person can improve to elevate their chances of winning.
889  Economy / Economics / Re: The fear of Bitcoin monopoly in El Salvador on: July 14, 2022, 11:58:34 PM
Its common for investors and finance gurus to recommend a policy of diversification.

Bitcoin is great. But it can be complimented with other crypto. El salvador could fork bitcoin to create their own CBDC. Nodes and miners could be allowed only within the borders of their own country and limited by IP address to prevent outside interference.

Mining is one aspect to bitcoin which made it popular. Finding methods to allow el salvadorans to mine and profit would be a good strategy to fuel mainstream adoption.

890  Economy / Economics / Re: Capitalizing on the strong US dollar? on: July 14, 2022, 11:23:50 PM
I'm completely ignorant on buying currencies as a hedge or a safer place than the US dollar.

With a strong dollar would it be wise to scope a few percentages of like the Swiss Franc?


FOREX investments are structured around the expected growth and performance of the economies of nations under expected future conditions.

If global inflation and recession persist, which countries are best suited to thrive under these conditions. Translating to stable fiat currencies over the long term.

Everyone has their favorites. FOREX trades are often leveraged due to volatility being low.

A strong dollar is a bet on silicon valley and big tech corporations like apple, google, microsoft and amazon giving the united states economy a distinct advantage over other nations in helping it weather inflation and recession.

Switzerland's economy is also structured in its own unique ways. Russia did threaten to invade sweden many years ago. Events like war also affect the value of currencies. It is possible war in ukraine is partly behind the euro losing value.
891  Economy / Economics / Re: Thoughts on CBDC's and long-term effect on the cryptomarket on: July 13, 2022, 11:58:53 PM
As economic circumstances deteriorate, there are still many who are expecting governments and central banks of the world to save them. They may place all of their wealth and life savings into CBDC and other state mandated programs as their best option for avoiding inflation.

Others who have lost faith in governments and central banks may store their wealth in gold and precious metals. They are more likely to seek alternatives to fiat and CBDC, which they no longer trust to retain their value in the event of hyperinflation.

Depending on the performance and rollout of CBDC, public opinion could shift. The way people think about and view the world could change. To an extent we already see this happening with shifts in approval ratings and voter registrations. The question is, will it matter over the long term.

It was easy for many to believe bitcoin was evil when prices were low and inflation wasn't a concern. Now that conditions are changing however and people are being forced to question their own perspectives everytime they fuel up at the gas pump. Many are being forced to look outside their comfort zone. And it is possible things might change.

Its been said that it took people 10 years to accept vitamin C being a legitimate treatment for scurvy in centuries past. Today, public opinion can shift and change much more quickly within a span of weeks or months. Rather than decades.

892  Economy / Economics / Re: Euro reaches parity with the US Dollar...Is it good or bad for Bitcoin? on: July 13, 2022, 11:46:18 PM
Sometimes I wonder what will be the implications of Bitcoin's price within the short term with both currencies (USD and EUR) in parity with one another.

Also, do you think the EUR parity with the USD is only temporary? If not, why? Your input will be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much. Smiley



EUR and USD price trends shouldn't affect bitcoin value at all. Market mechanics have not exerted a noticeable effect on bitcoin value in a long time. The overwhelming majority of btc price trends are defined by big dollar, high liquidity, speculation.

The united states has amazon, google, microsoft, apple and other global giants acting as intrinsic value to back its native fiat currency.

The euro lacks that type of backing. Whether we're looking at commodities, raw materials, or corporate assets. The eurozone simply lacks those types of assets.

If the outcome is defined by market mechanics, I would expect the american dollar to retain greater value in contrast to the euro. But with such a high proportion of trading volume and prices being set by speculators. There is a chance that buy and sell orders will define the outcome, rather than market conditions.
893  Economy / Economics / Re: U.S dollar almost equal to Euro on: July 13, 2022, 11:13:00 PM
Goldman Sachs warned that the Eurozone is on the edge of recession


I would be curious to know which nations come to mind when discussing hot growing economies of the world to invest in.

One obvious candidate is BRICS. Brazil. Russia. India. China. South africa.

There has also been mention of the four asian tigers. Hong kong. Singapore. South Korea. Taiwan.

There isn't much marketing, investment or hype being thrown behind economies of european nations however.

There are european castles selling for only €2 million on sites like:

https://castleist.com/castles-for-sale-in-europe

Which could reflect a lack of demand for higher income earners wanting to move there.

It might be safe to say, europe has been on the verge of recession for quite some time. None of their joint attempts to develop next gen technology like the euro fighter typhoon have fared well. Policies like austerity have been controversial at best.
894  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Gambling companies can get more uses to deposit. on: July 13, 2022, 10:58:35 PM
Quality sportsbooks like 5dimes used to offer bitcoin withdrawal as a standard option.

I think it was a popular option as gamblers could see their transaction verifying on the blockchain usually within a few hours after making a withdrawal request.

For whatever reason, many sportsbooks no longer offer bitcoin withdrawals. Even if they do not support bitcoin, they could still use a stablecoin pegged to the dollar as a withdrawal option, which could be relatively stable.

With inflation and economic downtrend becoming concerns. Some form of crypto pegged to gold and precious metals could also be a good format. If there is anyone in the world who holds enough gold or silver to back the crypto tokens they mint with precious metals to satisfy requirements of intrinsic value.
895  Economy / Economics / Re: FSB to Present Robust Crypto Regulatory Framework to G20 in October on: July 13, 2022, 10:35:21 PM
October, november 2022 takes place after the majority of US elections for this year.

They'll avoid passing anything before elections, which might shift public opinion.

Making it even more important to remember what this crypto regulation is for the following election cycle.

People tend to forget events after a short time. There is a chance that even if this regulation is bad for everyone. People won't remember it in a few years. That could represent the greatest danger.
896  Economy / Economics / Re: Bank runs make u use crypto on: July 12, 2022, 11:59:27 PM
It seems as if there is no real safe place to store wealth in this day and age. Most are being hit hard no matter where they store their wealth.

Stablecoins pegged to the dollar have shown some promise as a hedge against inflation. Unfortunately, shifting negative market conditions and regulatory crackdowns have put pressure some stablecoins to depeg. Bitfinex and tether have been investigated since 2017. It hasn't been the easiest 5 years for them to beat all of the accusations, lawsuits and investigations thrown at them. Foreign markets could benefit the most from stablecoin hedges against inflation, as their prices and inflation do not track with the US cost of goods and services.

For americans we need something that can appreciate closer to our rise in inflation. Which is a tough ask in this day and age.

I've thought about HODL'ing scrap metal as a entry level commodities play to beat inflation. That could still be a viable candidate which is accessible for most. Plants and agriculture could also be viable investments if food shortages materialize and the cost of fruits and vegetables continue to rise. Plants and trees also carry an advantage of generally appreciating in value.

897  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US Gas sales to China dries up as Ukraine war halts Energy trade on: July 12, 2022, 11:57:33 PM
Sanctions pushed the cost of russian down apprroximately 20%. Creating an arbitrage opportunity for buyers and resellers of russian oil to increase their profit margins. We know that india is officially reported as engaging in the practice. Other nations could as well. 20% reduction in oil prices below market value is simply too attractive to ignore.

Oil in the united states is demonstrably more expensive. The higher cost is stacked on top of shipping fees to transport american oil abroad making US oil prohibitively more expensive. Current market circumstances reflect russian oil becoming cheaper while american oil trends in the opposite direction.

Increasing oil production in the USA could reduce prices. But there is controversy as to drilling permits and what the policy around them should be. As well as other circumstances contributing to negative market conditions.
898  Economy / Economics / Trust in news collapses to historic low on: July 12, 2022, 11:23:30 PM
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      Americans' confidence in newspapers and television news has plummeted to an all-time low, according to the latest annual Gallup survey of trust in U.S. institutions.

      Why it matters: The erosion of trust in media is one of the most significant signs of deepening polarization in America.

      • Political party affiliation has become the primary driver of opinions about the media's trustworthiness, as Gallup has noted.
      • A 2021 poll from Pew Research Center found that Republicans are far less likely to trust media sources that are considered "mainstream."

      Details: Television news is today considered the second-least trusted institution in the country, following Congress, according to the poll.

      • While other institutions have also experienced precipitous declines, including banks and the medical system, others — like small business and the military — have held steady over the past few decades.

      By the numbers: The trust fall in the news media been driven mostly by Republicans, according to the data.

      • Just 5% of Republicans said they had "a great deal or quite a lot of confidence" in newspapers, compared to 35% of Democrats.
      • Only 8% of Republicans said they had "a great deal or quite a lot of confidence" in TV news, compared to 20% of Democrats.
      • Independents' views are generally closer to Republicans'.

      The big picture: The media trust gap between Democrats and Republicans began to widen during the the Bush and Obama administrations, but grew dramatically during the Trump era and has continued to widen.

      • Censorship and media bias have become a rallying cry among conservatives, prompting a slew of new media and tech investments, including alternative social media networks, entertainment companies and podcast networks.



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      Between the lines: The lack of trust in traditional news institutions is growing as partisan voices become more accessible online.

      • Data and experts suggest the public struggles to distinguish fact-based journalism from opinion content online.
      • The standards used by traditional media outlets — like fact-checking, bylines, datelines, and corrections — have not been fully-adopted by online news commentators on blogs, podcasts and social media.

      Yes, but: The internet can't be fully blamed for the erosion of media trust. And distrust in traditional institutions could force them to reckon with institutional problems, like a lack of diversity.


      • Semafor's Ben Smith noted on stage Thursday at an event in Washington that the "single most important factor" in media distrust was "the horrible coverage" in the run-up to the Iraq war and "the disastrous media coverage in the years after 9/11," when television and newspapers were still the dominant forms of news.
      • Politico founding editor and editorial chairman John Harris reminded Smith on stage that "in the old days," a handful of people at a small number of outlets had all the agenda-setting power and they "would’ve all been white men."
      • "All of us have biases and that maybe true objectivity is, what does your newsroom look like? How diverse is it?" said Al Jazeera English host Femi Oke at the event.

      https://www.axios.com/2022/07/08/news-republicans-democrats-trust-partisanship


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      While established financial media outlets have suffered.

      New media platforms associated with crypto have flourished.

      Has anyone noticed a trend of younger age demographics gravitating towards newer crypto sources. As a result of established brand name media covering more generic narratives. And being more biased in favor of proof of stake and the claim of crypto mining being bad for the environment.

      Established finance media also has a tendency to cover older demographics like Jim Cramer who many younger viewers would never have seen when his mad money hour was popular on TV. Established finance media covers more Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Jamie Dimon.

      While I think its fair to say that younger demographics trend more towards the Michael Saylors, Winklevoss Twins, Elon Musks who are covered more by crypto based media.

      There could be something of a diversion developing that trends around the age gap and divide between traditional finance and newer crypto alternatives.[/list][/list]
      899  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Threshold of Loss in Gambling on: July 12, 2022, 11:04:20 PM
      My question is, can you remember a time when you reached your threshold of loss while gambling?


      My loss threshold was never defined by monetary loss. Rather losses due to controversial judging decisions in MMA.

      A high percent of my losses were GGG vs Canelo, Adelaide Byrd scenarios where spectators overwhelmingly thought a fighter won the decision. And judges inexplicably cast their votes in the opposite direction.

      That was the main variable in abandoning sports gambling as a serious pursuit. And taking it up as a casual small time thing.

      I would guess many others can relate to this. Especially in the 2022 season, which has enjoyed the most controversial judging decisions of all time.
      900  Economy / Economics / American Factories Are Making Stuff Again as CEOs Take Production Out of China on: July 11, 2022, 11:57:03 PM
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      There has been a sense in financial circles that the fever among American executives to shorten supply lines and bring production back home would prove short-lived. As soon as the pandemic started to fade, so too would the fad, the thinking went.

      And yet, two years in, not only is the trend still alive, it appears to be rapidly accelerating.

      Rattled by the most recent wave of strict Covid lockdowns in China, the long-time manufacturing hub of choice for multinationals, CEOs have been highlighting plans to relocate production -- using the buzzwords onshoring, reshoring or nearshoring -- at a greater clip this year than they even did in the first six months of the pandemic, according to a review of earnings call and conference presentations transcribed by Bloomberg. (Compared to pre-pandemic periods, these references are up over 1,000%.)



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      More importantly, there are concrete signs that many of them are acting on these plans.

      The construction of new manufacturing facilities in the US has soared 116% over the past year, dwarfing the 10% gain on all building projects combined, according to Dodge Construction Network. There are massive chip factories going up in Phoenix: Intel is building two just outside the city; Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing is constructing one in it. And aluminum and steel plants that are being erected all across the south: in Bay Minette, Alabama (Novelis); in Osceola, Arkansas (US Steel); and in Brandenburg, Kentucky (Nucor). Up near Buffalo, all this new semiconductor and steel output is fueling orders for air compressors that will be cranked out at an Ingersoll Rand plant that had been shuttered for years.

      Scores of smaller companies are making similar moves, according to Richard Branch, the chief economist at Dodge. Not all are examples of reshoring. Some are designed to expand capacity. But they all point to the same thing -- a major re-assessment of supply chains in the wake of port bottlenecks, parts shortages and skyrocketing shipping costs that have wreaked havoc on corporate budgets in the US and across the globe.

      In the past, says Chris Snyder, an industrials analyst at UBS, it was as simple as “if we need a new facility, it’s going in China.” Now, he says, “this is being thought through in a way that has never been done before.”

      In January, a UBS survey of C-suite executives revealed the magnitude of this shift. More than 90% of those surveyed said they either were in the process of moving production out of China or had plans to do so. And about 80% said they were considering bringing some of it back to the US. (Mexico has also become a popular choice.)

      This is, of course, a nascent trend. And so many manufacturing jobs were lost here over so many decades -- about 8 million from peak to trough -- that almost no one would argue that the current trend marks a return to those halcyon times. The rise of automation, which has eliminated many low-skilled, low-paid jobs, means US factories today require a much smaller group of workers.

      What’s more, the soaring US dollar threatens to curtail the whole thing just as it’s beginning. As the dollar surges against the yuan, yen, pound and euro, it becomes costlier to make goods in the US rather than in those countries.

      ‘Better and Cheaper’


      To Kevin Nolan, the CEO at GE Appliances, all this fretting about high costs in the US is overdone.

      It has been for years, he says. Around 2008, he came to realize that on large items -- like, say, dishwasher size and up -- the savings earned by eliminating overseas shipping could outweigh the extra money spent on labor here. The key, he determined, was to wring maximum efficiency out of the factory floor to keep those labor costs down. A year later, he decided to test the thesis out and moved some of GE’s water-heater production to Louisville. Other product lines followed.

      It’s all been such a success for the company -- which is now, ironically, owned by China’s Haier Smart Home -- that Nolan has been waiting for other CEOs to follow his move. It took a pandemic to convince them to do it.

      “I’ve always said, this is just economics, people are going to realize that the savings they thought they had aren’t real,” Nolan said in an interview, “and it’s going to be better and cheaper to make them here.”



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      For some companies, the first nudge they got to revamp their supply-chain lines came two years before Covid, when then-President Donald Trump began slapping tariffs on Chinese products again and again.

      Generac Holdings, a maker of power generators, started mapping out plans to shift some production from China, and when the pandemic hit, those plans got supercharged. The company now gets more of its parts from suppliers in the US and Mexico, produces more generators near its headquarters outside Milwaukee and runs a brand new plant in a small town just north of Augusta, Georgia.

      “We wanted to be closer to our customers in the southeast,” said Chief Operations Officer Tom Pettit. Low shipping costs and quick delivery times are proving a hit with clients and paving the way for the company to keep growing, he said. Opened just a year ago, expansion work on the plant is already underway.

      Russia’s invasion of Ukraine also got Pettit’s attention.

      Not just because the war further snarled global trade and added to the surge in freight costs but because it reminded him that China could try something similar in Taiwan. And in the same way that business ended for most Western companies in Russia, so too it could end in China. Suddenly, that benign geopolitical backdrop that had helped encourage so many executives to globalize their operations over the past few decades was vanishing. And this, Pettit said, added to his sense of urgency to change things up.

      “President Xi Jinping has not been shy about wanting to reunify China and Taiwan,” Pettit said. “We still think China is incredibly competitive. However, we need to have dual sources outside of China.”


      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-05/us-factory-boom-heats-up-as-ceos-yank-production-out-of-china


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      The concept of manufacturing and production being moved outside of china's borders is an interesting claim.

      Other sources say manufacturing and production have become more centralized inside china since COVID and the global pandemic in 2020.

      These events parallel our typical centralization vs decentralization debate. Ownership of the means of production is an ages old discussion in and of itself.

      Rampant consumerism is the cultural norm we have all been encouraged to follow since birth.

      Rampant productionism could be the trend of the future, if we end up producing our own biodiesel and home grown food.

      Supply chain disruptions and drastic shortages may all be defined as dysfunction on the production side.

      Are there ways we can resolve these issues efficiently and effectively without extreme measures?
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