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can you please elaborate some more? what's special about it
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I'm replying to it now but what good is it because you don't deal with facts? Why do you keep going on about the rest of the list? I'm not arguing about that and it has nothing to do with my point. You just keep going back to it to distract and backtrack from your initial mistakes. My point is and always has been that you've included people who are not religious and don't believe in god on a list of people who you claim do. So is it a list of religious people or people who aren't but never officially confirmed or denied? Einstein and Sagan have nothing to do with the list but you've put them on there. You could quote Dawkins out of context and say he's agnostic so he belongs on the list too because he's not ultimately denying that there might be a god.
It has nothing to do with the point? the point was and I clearly repeat my self, "only stupid people believes in religion and that Atheist people has high IQ" and on this thread, "that Atheism + Veg people have higher IQ than Christian + Carni". Fact one : I presented a list of some of the most proficient scientist and most intelligent people earth even seen that are religious and Fact two : more than half of the current scientist are religious. The list has everything to do with the argument, maybe you need to check your facts here. no backtracking just dismantling that argument you are having by trying to nitpick on one or two persons and ignore the rest of the list. |
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I'm sure if they don't already realise they're not coming back they will very soon. I also think it wont work. People can go insane quite quickly in space and loose their shit.
While it not Mars, and near the safety of earth, Astronauts stay several months in the International Space Station, and the longest stay on space was done by Polyakov if I'm not mistaking and he stayed on the Mir station for over a year, I also recall the station had a fire accident (not sure if it was during his stay tho) The one way ticket to Mars is what Mars One planning to do, check out Dr Zubrin plan I posted above |
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This is Dr Zubrin plan about Mars, pretty interesting didn't know there was a documentary about it till today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URw9JoZwlQI. The ignorance comes from those that doesn't argue against facts and start insulting others on other threads, and it's pretty clear in which category you are right now Dude, seriously. Whoever taught you grammar should be drawn and quartered...
So it's about grammar now, not about facts, so this is what your argumentation came to, well that was expected tbh. Rest assured I know my grammar is bad, and I'm working on it, just for reference English is the forth language I speak. it's just that happen, that I have a scientific background
Please troll elsewhere. Really I doubt that anyone cares about your ranting at this point. Trolling? I don't like these kind of posts and you don't see me doing this around here but lets put things straight here I have Bachelor degree in Fundamental physics, a Master degree in Mechanical and Design Engineering and a European Masters in Management and Business Strategy, and I dare you in front of everyone here, to bet some or at least a couple of BTCs ,Escrowed of course, if you think this is FUD, I will provided all the necessary proofs to the Escrower, how about it ? |
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I didn't read partial your reply I decided to reply on that part because it's the only part that sounded like an argument in your comment As for for Atheism + Vegetarian having higher IQ, that's the most stupid thing i've ever heard, I'll let you check some facts here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=511208.msg6285147#msg6285147Have a good read. What's that list of? Karl Sagan & Hawkings aren't religious or am I confused here? Here we go again, didn't you see the huge striketrough on Hawkings, how about the other dozen of profilant scientist mentioned there ? Yeah I saw it but why is he still there? What about Sagan? And some of the others are religious but I don't know about all of them. You quoted me pretty quickly ^^, check out my reply I think, you can check them out, they all are religious with a clear stance, except, Sagan who doesn't follow a religion per say, but he doesn't denies God and he clearly said I quote : "Atheism is stupid" As for Einstein he is a Jew who believes in Spinoza God... there points were discussed in that topic. Jesus Christ how many excuses can you make for including them on the list? So not denying god makes them religious? You can put Richard Dawkins on the list with your logic. You need to read up on Spinoza's god. It's not what you think. You continually show a misunderstanding of this. Read what Sagan and Einstein said about Spinoza's god. No How about you answer my last comment on that thread so we can stop this off topic right here. Dawkins is the most Atheist of modern mediated (dunno if it is the correct word) scientist there is heck he is an Atheism preacher and has nothing to do with that list (see when someone is Atheist, I say so clearly, unlike you) and even if we disregard Sagan and Einstein what do you do about the rest of the list? so what's your next excuse here? go ahead and tell us. I don't know what spinozas god is but sagan is defiantly not relgious at all. Have you seen Cosmos series?
Please reread what I said, and of course I've seen cosmos, and for reference religious doesn't mean Christian, a lot of people makes this confusion. |
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Of course you won't be wasting any more effort indulging me, since so far you didn't present a single counter argument against the fact I presented, this is not about I can argue better or wining some arguments (it's not like they are distributing some prizes if someone does so) , trust me, I don't really care about that and when I don't know about something I just ask, it's just that happen, that I have a scientific background, and Mars missions is one of the things that fascinate me, and that when I first heard about Mars One a few years ago, I was pretty excited and tried to get the maximum of informations and what I've presented is the current states of thing. |
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I didn't read partial your reply I decided to reply on that part because it's the only part that sounded like an argument in your comment As for for Atheism + Vegetarian having higher IQ, that's the most stupid thing i've ever heard, I'll let you check some facts here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=511208.msg6285147#msg6285147Have a good read. What's that list of? Karl Sagan & Hawkings aren't religious or am I confused here? Here we go again, didn't you see the huge striketrough on Hawkings, how about the other dozen of profilant scientist mentioned there ? Yeah I saw it but why is he still there? What about Sagan? And some of the others are religious but I don't know about all of them. You quoted me pretty quickly ^^, check out my reply, you can check them out, they all are religious with a clear stance, except, Sagan who doesn't follow a religion per say, but he doesn't denies God and he clearly said I quote : "Atheism is stupid" As for Einstein he is a Jew who believes in Spinoza God... these points were discussed in that topic. |
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I didn't read partial your reply I decided to reply on that part because it's the only part that sounded like an argument in your comment As for for Atheism + Vegetarian having higher IQ, that's the most stupid thing i've ever heard, I'll let you check some facts here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=511208.msg6285147#msg6285147Have a good read. What's that list of? Karl Sagan & Hawkings aren't religious or am I confused here? Here we go again, didn't you see the huge striketrough on Hawkings, how about the other dozen of proficient scientist that changed the world that are mentioned there ? Sagan is an agnostic theist end and Einsteins believes in god, the rest of that list, clearly stated they are religious and believes in god, and that list puts to shame, the few scientist mentioned in that so called picture (I also don't consider Thomas Edison as proficient scientist considering what he did but that's another topic). So to conclude neither religion or being a vegetarian or not add to your intelligence or remove anything from it and claiming such a thing is plain stupidity, just give your body all the substances it needs, and meat is one of them. |
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I thought that Morocco is wealthy country. Why people imigrate from it?
No it is not, not by any mean, It's a very dynamic country with a steady growth, but Morocco doesn't have oil like the middle east countries for example, it will get eventually but right now it's not rich How do you mean they will get oil in the future? Maybe, as the region is supposed to have Oil, and oil search is accelerating also Morocco has considerable schist reserves, no not that, the Economy of Morocco dispite it being really tied to the EU Economy which suffered greatly due to the economical crisis, Morocco kept 4-5% year to year economical growth, it's also massively investing in different projects, being it renewable energy resources, (one of the biggest solar thermal stations in the world is opening soon there, wind farms, hydro,....ect) , infrastructure, building the biggest port in africa and the Mediterranean, industries, such as car manufacturing, aeronautic ect , it's developing rapidly, for those who have money, it's a good place to invest in, while things aren't crazy expensive yet, (an example housing price increased by several folds in the last decade) of course not everything is white there are some problems in some areas like every country in the world, but things are being fixed and getting to the better |
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I've only watched the first two or tree movies, and stopped because of it was becoming more and more ridiculous, Maybe also moving from teenage to adulthood has also something to do with it, But I respect the fact that you like the books and the movie, I might give the movie another shot and try to finish them all a Sunday afternoon
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You clarified my mind for? what the? |
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- Plants feel no pain, they have no consciousness, they have no nervous system, they don't feel emotion.
How do you know that plants have no conscious and don't feel pain <.< were you a plant before ? hmm , also we eat animals that eat mostly plants, because animals that eat meat are unhealthy to us in general -.-, plants deserves more rights ! You read three words of the second bullet point but not the rest of it and wrote a whole reply saying I'm wrong. Just to repeat what I already said in the same bullet point: they have no central nervous system, they have no organs that allow them to have consciousness. Just because your arm is alive doesn't mean your arm can think on its own. It can't even feel pain on its own, you need your brain to feel the pain and to control it aka a central nervous system. Plus you completely threw out every other bullet point out the window. 1) They evolved to be consumed 2) You don't even eat the whole plant when you eat a fruit or most vegetables, you only eat a small part of it that regrows and the main plant continues to grow too --- Read the last bullet point: Higher IQ study: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201005/why-vegetarians-are-more-intelligent-meat-eatersHigher IQ more likely to become vegetarian (and atheists): http://www.medpagetoday.com/PrimaryCare/DietNutrition/4721Another higher IQ study: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6180753.stmI suggest reading through the first two pages, they have a lot of pictures and more factual information in them. --- Close minded replies: There is nothing wrong with eating meat. It is not like if you don't eat meat you will save animals. They will be killed anyway. So if you like meat eat it...
I agree with your opinion, but I don't know if I can agree with that reasoning though. It's kinda like saying you can kill old people because they're going to die soon anyway. Translation: Even though you are wrong, I like the fact that you are a meat eater like me, so I will side with you. What's wrong with eating meat? Nothing. /Thread Translation: I will just read the question, not read any arguments or facts that you state, and conclude that I was right all along: There is nothing wrong with eating meat. "What they found was that vegetarians and vegans had average testosterone 6% and 16% higher than the carnivores, respectively"
"And by the way, I'm quite the meat-eater myself, so I don't like it either, but it seems true... vegans have a higher testosterone than us."
That research looks fake paid by grass eaters Also if what you claim is true, why do vegan men sound like women? Explain that Translation: Even though you might be right, I'll just say you're wrong because f you, that's why. I didn't read partialy your reply I decided to reply on that part because it's the only part that sounded like an argument in your comment As for for Atheism + Vegetarian having higher IQ, that's the most stupid thing i've ever heard, I'll let you check some facts here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=511208.msg6285147#msg6285147Have a good read. |
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i guess arab have a great mind by building this wonderful island
The Arabs contributed the money... so in a sense yes.. they have a great mind. But remember that the construction was carried out by the Dutch companies Jan De Nul and Van Oord. The workers were mostly from South Asia (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nepal). And right now most of the islands are under the possession of Russians and Americans. Not entirely true, there are some areas where foreigner companies had to intervene in areas where the huge arab building holding (that owns many of the currents projects) lacks expertise, (not annyone has the technology or the mean to build an artificial Island that will harbor building, and that will response to a requirement book (being it technical, resistance to tidal forces, earthquakes...ect ect environmental one and most importantly in terms of cost, since if you have the expertise and the knowhow you are more efficient than someone who will start from zero) but many parts of the project, especially the traditional part, and also the design was worked out with those holdings, as for workers yes, they come from foreigner countries, which is normal for the region, with a very low population, I'll give an example, Qatar there is 2 million people, less than half of them are Arab and original citizens (40%) the rest are all from migration. Right now they are building infrastructure everywhere, investing in everything and the original population is far from being enough and doesn't want to do low level basic stuff They give the money, the foreigners create these projects and the Asians slave to build them Its not "low" level basic stuff, in most civilized countries construction workers are paid high with lot of benefits more than office workers in most cases. Because they risk a lot of their health to build these buildings. The only reason Doha for example can build so Mich infra so quickly and easy is not just oil money its also because it costs them next to nothing for slavd asian labor Look at the Doha FIFA scandal, 100's of Asians die in these construction every year in Doha. No most of these projects are build by in house companies such as Kingdom Holding Company, Saudi Binladin Group ect ect, there are some areas where you need the expertise of foreign companies, especially when you are talking about such unconventional projects (it happens everywhere in the world, once you acquire the expertise you start doing everything on your own) Doesn't change the fact that it is still manual labor that doesn't require low or basic skills (When I say low or Basic it doesn't take anything from the expertise on those basic task and the craftmanship of some), and you are explaining the reasons your self they are getting payed more (a worker than a basic clerk on a supermarket as for office people that's another story) because of the high risk, high physical strain, and harsh working conditions overall as you explained it well. It not the only reason, and it cost them billions not next to nothing, the thing is working conditions are bad, workers are forced to do supplementary hours which they are paid for but if they refuse they'll get replaced, and that most projects are 24/7, the same thing is happening in China and other fast growing countries. Of course there are work ethic problems I think we agree on this but like I said before , more than half of the population in those countries is from asian countries that came there to work due to the huge projects investiment, looking for better salaries than in their home countries |
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Just try and let her pay on their own, or sometimes, just tell her especially if she is the one taking you somewhere that you don't have your wallet or cash on your if she can pay, and stuff like that, she'll understand on indirect way that you aren't willing to pay for everything all the time, be smart about it, unless she is not very bright then I guess you need to be straight about it, just put it in a way so that you don't look like a stingy person.
Another thing, if she thinks that you are supposed to pay for everything, then just leave her, half of earth population is women so I'm sure you'll find another person in no time
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^^ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphite_oxide, their figures are a bit optimistic considering that some of the competition are using similar process and others are innovating even more  but they might have something else added in their chemical composition, I'd say before considering switching to it wait for some benchmarks |
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Businesses, stocks, banks, Property, gold and I'm missing a lot, usually most of their money is stocks on a company or two they own, Bill Gates and MS for example
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It's all about price and battery life, as it doesn't bring anything new to the table and every single incoming and current smartwatchs has those functionalities unless I missed something feel free to correct me  are there any estimate on those two parameters? Also I though Ti stoped making it Omap SoC for smartphones and watchs |
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It's more complicated than that, The Atom model does not resemble planetary model at all or rather it's more complicated than that  , while the planetary model (Borh) explains very well the Energy Quanta (Plank) it's a simplified model that doesn't represent reality It's like Newtonian Physics vs General relativity Here is the progression of the atomic model  It's even more complex than that today with our current knowledge and new theories |
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What's wrong with my attitude? This: Ok let me put it to you frankly so you understand...
Anyways I'm not going to keep indulging you. You implied that they did not have the means to get to Mars so I pointed out very clearly that they have a plan and a specific spacecraft in mind. One which is being produced by a very strong company. I'm not going to sit here and debate with you whether they will succeed or not, you obviously aren't interested in having any sort of rational discussion about this you just want to keep shitting on Mars One without any real legitimate reason. Ten years from now we could show you a video of the first team members to land on Mars and you'll be sitting there foaming at the mouth screaming "THEY FAKED IT, THEY FAKED IT!" And what's wrong with that? I've explained the same thing 4 times before "simplifying it" (and that's what the sentence you are quoting is all about) there is nothing wrong with what I said there. I did not apply I affirm : They DO NOT have the means nor the expertise to do it and if you think otherwise you are invited to prove me wrong. The way they are doing things is the following : They will do a concept study and design while at the same time doing simulations (being it training crew and simulating the Mars environment on earth) Once this phase is done and the concrete study and real concept design are made, these will be proposed to partners, and from there the project will either progress to reality or will be scraped if it if deemed infeasible or unrealistic, if the project is deemed feasible and partners are willing to put their resources into the project, then you'll see things moving from concept to reality, building stuff will start, ect. I'm not shitting on Mars One, I'm presenting the reality and the current state of the project with facts that you don't want to accept here and you are avoiding to discuss. And you are really confusing what I'm saying here, I'm not saying that Mars One will not bring people to Mars please reread my comments before advancing such thing: All I'm saying is that, right now, Mars One is just a study design project right now, no more no less, and once that phase is done, and unless the study and concept designs are deemed serious by the partners that have the resources being it technical or material for such a project and willing to contribute on such basis it will not happen. |
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As for empty space
According to Quantum Mechanics and new theories, there is no such thing as empty as elementary practicals of matter and antimatter appears and instantly disappears in space but that's beyond what you need to know for now.
I believe too that is no such empty space. Before we believe that atom is the smallest particle until we discovered electrons and then quarks. I believe there is no end of it. There are always smaller things to discover as well as bigger things. Space is infinite, they call it universe but I call it multiverse. Space is just so vast that cannot see it all. Light is so slow, we will only discover this other verse once we discover a particle that moves a trillion times faster than light, but to discover this particle we must also need to detect/discover a particle a trillion times smaller than quarks. String theory, I'll let you look that up , but it really depends on what you qualify, by empty, and inside the atom there are physical huge empty space (vacum) on the long scale of time, and very short scale of time it isn't the case I'm pretty sure than one of the last Noble prices in physics, was given to a scientist who made a numerical simulation of the empty space state inside an atome or something like that, I don't recall the details since I've read that in a while and they didn't mention the alghorithm nor the limite conditions that were used |
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