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921  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Residential Limit 15amp or 20amp? on: January 04, 2014, 11:29:56 AM
I was hoping to find and electrician friend of mine but he comes up missing 3-5 months at a time because he has a serious gambling problem. He has a thing for Pai Gow.. I may call his wife to see if she can hunt him down for me. Last time i got him in trouble so im being patient..

Thanks for the price guide btw! Good to know what im dealing with!
922  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Residential Limit 15amp or 20amp? on: January 04, 2014, 10:28:29 AM
Panel change out here with a new 200amp service runs 2500-2900. Could be more if your installation is a pain in the ass.  Depending on the brand and model of panel you have you could use some tandem breakers to free up some space. 

Do you have an electric hot water heater? Is it in the basement?  Replace the breaker feeding your water heater with a 60amp to feed a sub panel, then feed your water heater from the sub panel.

You could do the same with any of the circuits in your house, the water heater is usually the handiest 240v to access in the basement.

Holy crap! $3k! I wasnt expecting that..
I hope just adding a sub panel is cheaper.

Not sure about my water heater.. ill look in the morning.
923  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Residential Limit 15amp or 20amp? on: January 04, 2014, 10:01:03 AM
So here's where I wound up. I have a contractor coming later this week to run a 50 amp circuit to a new sub panel in the basement. In that panel he'll put a 30A 240 and 20A 120.

I ordered this for the PDU: APC AP7941 Rack PDU. There was a seller with a used one for $50 (+15 shipping) on Amazon. I like the fact I can view the amps drawn and manage it through a web interface.

Then I'll have two of these that will go from the PDU to the machines: Tripp Lite ISOBAR4/220 Isobar Surge Protector Metal 230V 4 Outlet. So each will have 2 machines on it (4 miners total).

This should let me overclock (if possible), from out of the box 1050W to +20% = 1260W / 240V = 5.25 amps * 4 machines, 21 amps out of 24A sustained rating on 30A circuit. That's only if I can get them all OCd, but at least the headroom's there.

This will leave me with a 20A circuit if I need a cooler or for expansion. Thanks for the help here, let me know if I'm blowing it somewhere!

Man nice pdu!

i had i guy come out and when he opened the door to my panel it sparked everywhere and the power went out! Turns out i had a loose breaker which had defective coupler or what ever hold its into place...

After he opened it he said there is not room for any more breakers and i would need a sub panel or a new panel.


All in all i lost a 15 amp breaker and all that was on there got moved to a 20amp breaker that the garage door was running on. He said the Oven was on a 50amp and i looked at him and he started laughing! He said i should probably talk the other people in the house before i have him haul the oven away! LOL

He was just a contractor that was in the neighborhood doing me a solid so now at least i know i need a new panel or a sub panel.  Sad

PDU and outlets just came.. Got the 10guage line too..  Just a bit brick walled with this panel issue. I gotta find out the costs of swapping to larger panels or adding a sub. Anyone know?

By the way i found i have 100-125 amp service by calling the power company!

 

 


924  Other / Archival / Re: [ANN] OpenRigs.com - Aluminium Frames for Mining Rigs on: January 04, 2014, 09:34:19 AM
^^ Good deal..
925  Other / Archival / Re: [ANN] OpenRigs.com - Aluminium Frames for Mining Rigs on: January 04, 2014, 09:13:27 AM
Good lo .. what the hell happened in here!  Shocked


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Nice pics fluffypony ! What size risers you using in those photos?


I have some 19cm risers right now but i have powered 24cm's incoming! Wish i had 30cm..
926  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: MSI Z77A-GD80 6x 280x GPU Detection on: January 04, 2014, 06:34:35 AM
you must run your rig with win 8.1 in order to get more than 5 vga, dont' forget to install 13.12 driver


Hey!!! Thanks for the reply!! Last night i just found out 1 280x is no good! I plugged it in by itself and i powered on the machine and it let out a puf and an electrical smell!

Im doing an rma now.


Will continue testing with other 280s i have on site..

I didnt even think of trying 8.1.


For some odd reason i was thinking it was the molex connectors to the powered risers.
I put each gpu on it own cable for the molex connectors thinking it wasnt getting the 75w .. i was originally double or trippling up on molex connections via a single cable.
927  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: List of motherboard that require shorting pin A1 B17 for pci-e 1x to work. on: January 03, 2014, 09:31:04 AM
How about the MSI Z77-GD80? Supposed to be like the Z77A-GD65 but with thunderbolt!



Cant get more than three cards detected! Im using pcie x1 slot #3 and #6 and then x16 pcie in slot 2!



I was hoping to do 6 cards..

 
928  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / MSI Z77A-GD80 6x 280x GPU Detection on: January 03, 2014, 08:39:28 AM

Im having a hell of a time getting 6x 280x's to get detected on this board which is supposed to be like the z77a-gd65 that was popular for mining.


I can only get three cards detected at this point.  Is there something im missing? Im using slots number 3 & 6 for the pcie 1x slots and im using a single 16x slot in the #2 pcie slot!

Ive tried shorting the presence pins for the other 1x slots but no go.    Im scratching my head hear and ive been at it for almost 2 weeks now and frustration is kicking in! I need some fresh minds on this so here i am.


 Here is my gear.

2x EVGA 1000w G Series Power Supplys
MSI Z77A-GD80
4x SAPPHIRE VAPOR-X 280-X
2x MSI 280X GAMING
IVY BRIDGE 1620
8GB 1866mhz GSKILL DDR3

6x 1x to 16x PCIE Risers (powered)



Is there anyone out there that can get these 6 280x's to run on this board?

929  Other / Off-topic / Re: FREE MONEY! Wait what? Get outta here.. on: January 02, 2014, 02:25:42 AM
^^ There is plenty incentive --- we are talking about free money here!

People are making defrauding the gov a JOB and the people who are NOT committing fraud and getting the bill and paying for it!!


The billionaires too! In fact the people with the biggest footholds in our society..    Be it in business, politics or other wise.


Just type "32 trillion" into any search engine and click enter!





I laughed at PG's meme but really we passed a sign about a thousand miles back that said "you still laughing, How about now?" !! I remember grinning at it like a mental patient!

Fuck! In 2008 the combined capitalization of all domestic NYSE listed companies was US$10.1 trillion


Hell the GDP for the US as of june 2013 is 16 TRILLION!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_United_States

These guys are hodling twice that! Tax free .. while they are still playing their parts as ceo's, fortune 500 owners, senators and what have you.  


You were saying something about incentive & motivation? Well Yeah these guys are motivated alright !
They motivated straight to the cayman islands!


They have made it their "job" ! 





 


















 











930  Other / Off-topic / Re: FREE MONEY! Wait what? Get outta here.. on: January 01, 2014, 07:39:03 PM
^^ lol!

PG!! Happy New Year!
931  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Motherboard of choice for 6 or more GPU's on: December 31, 2013, 10:57:59 AM
I have an msi z77a gd80.. i thought it was supposed to be like the gd65 except with thunderbolt.

I currently cant get it to see more than two cards :/

Im at a loss.. I got powered 1x to 16x risers. 2x 1000w EVGA G series power supplies. Latest driver.. Ivy bridge Celeron.

I shoulda grabbed a gigabyte
932  Other / Off-topic / Re: FREE MONEY! Wait what? Get outta here.. on: December 30, 2013, 06:36:09 AM
Dont even get me started ..

Lets look a the last 4-5 years.. http://projects.propublica.org/graphics/bigpharma

11 BILLION in fines world wide!
 http://rt.com/news/drugs-fines-corporations-crime-671/


Quote
Eight out of 10 of the biggest pharmaceutical producers in the world have been caught breaking the law in this period. All in all 26 healthcare companies have signed “corporate integrity agreements” with US authorities, a form of probation following serious fraud.


Most of these fines are paid off in full shortly after said fine is announced! Most companys buckle and start filling bankcrupcy.. Not these guys, they chuckle at the fines and pay it in FULL! No payments, no liquidating, no restructuring, no bankcrupcy  -----> Just fire some employees for show and PAY IN FULL!  


Now that they have the biologicals in full stride they are slapping black box labels on them as fast as they make em! Antibiotics like cipro have black box "TAKE AT YOUR OWN RISK LABELS" but hey "we asked the doctor" so..  


30 years ago every other tv commercial wasn't a drug company!! In fact drug company's were not making commercials at all!

Then they all started out with the "ask your doctor bit" because the regulations were lifted and now they peddle drugs to you and your kids right in your face 24/7 along side cartoons!!

 I was listening to this military nurse whistle blower and she was saying how all of the sudden the army started allowing soldiers to use psych drugs!


Now soldiers are off 3-5 different "psych" drugs on the battle field and its a common theme amongst units to have a high number of functional dependents! The fuck..

 http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-militarys-prescription-drug-addiction/


Whats next drunk cops giving you marijuana tickets!? I want congress to take a DRUG test regularly! Its probably worse then the military!



Ya think some kids in hoodies and sagging pants got marijuana on the map in Washington legally!! Fuck no, it took a judge, a cops son, ex-goldman sacs employees and phillip morris as backers.

http://www.newsweek.com/will-pot-barons-cash-legalization-65259


These fucks have been jailing people over marijuana for decades and making criminals out of average every day citizens who are otherwise law abiding.

Now cash strapped states are looking at the cash crop like hmm ..

Something stinks and it aint the pot! There is no accountability ... from our elected officials to our caretakers like doctors.. Its like everything that used to mean something is now the opposite!


The people who you associate good with need serious RE-EVALUATION! Especially the people at the top of the old list!

Cops, Doctors, Clergy...  Ya know the good guys! --->  ( my turn to chuckle )

http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2012/10/28/554/

http://news.yahoo.com/police-turn-routine-traffic-stops-into-cavity-searches-201433510.html

http://www.thelocal.de/20131111/jail-for-gynaecologist-who-took-pics-of-patients




The compass is spinning like we are on lost looking for the "others"..

We better find north soon cause right now where ever light goes it notices darkness has gotten there first and is waiting for it.


Zedicus
933  Other / Off-topic / Re: FREE MONEY! Wait what? Get outta here.. on: December 29, 2013, 05:04:58 AM
^^ Hey thanks ill give it a shot!
934  Other / Off-topic / Re: FREE MONEY! Wait what? Get outta here.. on: December 28, 2013, 10:05:59 PM

I don't know what the solution could be. There is work to do and someone has to do them. Going back to a model in which you don't eat if you don't work would be a step backward. I fear a completely bitcoin economy may be that way. When people don't eat, they rebel.

Hey thanks for your input.

Don't eat if you don't work.. is a step backwards but what we have in place now is like 5 steps backwards.. 

Its like they are pre programming people to be dependent, and inducing behavior that only result in more dependency!

Your are right about someone having to do something! But i think the handout train has so much momentum that derailing it would cause catastrophes within low income and middle class families who are not prepared or able to leave this life of handouts they are leading!

The pride in people has been muted! People have no shame and no integrity so they dont think twice when standing on the backs of hard working people! Thats what has to change the most ..

I was talking to a friend of mine about our fathers and how much of a different cloth they were made of!!

Honor, Integrity, Character, Morals, Pride is what fueled past generations but we are on some other shit right now ..!!!

Selfishness, Greed, Corruption... is the makeup of the landscape. From the top tier to the bottom feeders in every corner of our society these things are rampant!

There is probably more honor and integrity in the common thief of today then say a doctor who has been handing out Oxycontin like candy and profiting insanely at the price of his patients or a police officer who uses his stature as an expert witness to paint a favorable scenario in an officer related shooting!

 How about the judges working with private for profit prisons that keep the jails packed so their cronies can be profiting from their incarceration!! I was reading about the FCC chairman who approved the Comcast buyout of KRON! He gave the green light and then quit his job at the FCC to go work for comcast!!
How about the head of the CDC ! The flipping center for disease control.. So important to all of us.. but there too!!

Head of the CDC quits job of like 8-10 years to go work for a vaccine company she had been regulating the whole time!! 
The last decade or "more" has been a full fledged assault on anything related to honor, integrity, character, morals, pride.

We need to address that in popular culture before someone can do anything about it

We need to find NORTH! Our compass is ******!










 
935  Other / Archival / Re: [ANN] OpenRigs.com - Aluminium Frames for Mining Rigs on: December 28, 2013, 09:23:27 PM
Glad af_newbie got situated ..I think there was some miscommunication but wtf is going on with this guy! --->>> skyisthelimit !

Looks like he was part of the FUD brigade!


One of the reasons i chose to go with openrigs is because i saw how well he was communicating on here and reddit... lets not beat him up when the news is not in our favor.

 That said can you check on order number ( *** ) lol!! Ok so i got jokes today.. tho im hoping for tracking soon myself.

Cheers,
Zedicus
936  Other / Off-topic / Re: FREE MONEY! Wait what? Get outta here.. on: December 28, 2013, 09:08:51 AM
Why do they make it so hard to get a work permit in the UK? You want to work and they make it difficult?

EU and non EU immigrant issue?
 
Ive never been to the UK.. What is the UK like?
 

937  Other / Archival / Re: [ANN] OpenRigs.com - Aluminium Frames for Mining Rigs on: December 28, 2013, 12:46:25 AM
hmm  when you guys order? whats your ship date?


I ordered on dec 2nd and my order number is low 800's.. I actually "didnt" receive an email saying it was out of fabrication .. I found out via this thread!

I looked in my account and it says shipping pending customs check. ( Shipped date is Dec23 )

About 20 days after order..



@ af_newbie: Holy crap! $100 shipping.. Did you pay the premium for the fastest delivery available or did you just choose cheapest method?
Are you states side?

I paid $47.73 for International Insured Surface Mail to the United States!

I didnt read anything about 6weeks tho.  If it took 6 weeks took get here after the 23rd ship date it would be 60 days or so before item is in hand! Add the customs wait time and add 5-10 days?  Mine has been at customs since 23rd! I haven't gotten a tracking number so this is all assumption or going off what my order status says!

If it took 6 weeks + 20 days of fab + 10 days at customs! Thats like a 70 day wait period to receive item in hand after order..

My order has been at customs pending shipping for 4 days .. i just noted 10 days to give cushion but i dont know any more than you guys!

If anyone actually receives their package if you could do us and openrigs.com a solid and post a picture of the said item in the wild!


Everyone else should post their order date, order number, ship type, location and when the item broke out of fab so we can see average delay in time for manufacturing and shipping and from shipping to in hand!


Hopefully they are just swamped with holidays and we will all get our tracking shortly.

938  Other / Off-topic / Re: FREE MONEY! Wait what? Get outta here.. on: December 27, 2013, 08:46:00 PM

Person i was arguing with has been without a job for 10 plus years ... a habitual Leeher!

Basically sponging of the resources of friends and family until there is nobody left but family.


Now they are trying to rationalize the nonsense they are spouting by associating the government assistance with a permanent free ride on the backs and shoulders of people who work very hard for theirs!


I mean fuck! When i lost my job 10 years ago .. i looked for work and when i didnt find something that suited me.. I opened up my own business from home and here i am 10 years later still in business and doing well!! Keep in mind i was working for Bank of America doing individual retirement accounts in the federal building so i could have easily found work that wasnt to my liking or didn't suit me well.

You noticed i said a job that suited me!! Not this "there are no jobs blanket statement" that everyone who is sleeping till 3pm keeps yammering from the side of their mouth! There are jobs everywhere for skilled and unskilled works alike!
They just arent going to fall on your lap! You actually have to go find them, and fight for them .. they arent entitlements!


What pissed me off the most about the person i was arguing with is they said they didnt feel like they were leeching from the working class.. since they didnt "believe" that the taxes the working folks pay doesn't go to entitlements! The arguer started saying some shit like you dont "really" know where the tax money is going... 

I threw up my hands and walked away.. As i was walking away i was thinking wow.. some people are just a pathetic, sorry bunch of excuses wrapped in non-sense! Their cup is so full that all they can do is regurgitate the bullshit flying out of their trap!

If i had a tomatoes to throw at that moment i would have thrown one.






939  Other / Off-topic / Re: FREE MONEY! Wait what? Get outta here.. on: December 27, 2013, 08:04:37 AM
I have no idea how to tell him that I have worked for everything I own and although its not alot, I earned it ..

Exactly!! Thats whats up man!!!
 
 
as long as this current system exists our children and our children's children will need to pay it off as well   


So messed up!! Its cold blooded!
940  Other / Off-topic / Re: FREE MONEY! Wait what? Get outta here.. on: December 27, 2013, 07:06:58 AM
Just remember that it was your tax money that paid for their education.  Let it sink in...

**** me.. lol

  it gets worse really and i understand.. Even when you zoom out a bit its like what the hell is going on here!
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/07/us/billionaires-received-us-farm-subsidies-report-finds.html?_r=0



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