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941  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 02, 2021, 01:48:22 PM
This Michael Saylor Tucker Carlson interview might be more important than we might think...

Perhaps, but I am always sus on timing of such MSM displays.

The bigger question is why now?

With inflation through the roof, why not now?

Well in the past few years, whenever the MSM would go big on talking positively about Bitcoin on live TV in order to raise awareness (e.g., Mike Novogratz being trotted out to wax love for Bitcoin, the Winklevii being interviewed about Bitcoin, an SNL comedy skit about Bitcoin, Ellen talking about Bitcoin on her talk show, Elon Musk on SNL talking about Bitcoin and Doge), it would be right before a massive bull trap incoming. That's always been part of the whale insider playbook. They just love to trap the n00bs.

THAT's why I'm always sus on that stuff.

Of course

1. I hope I'm wrong

-and -

2. Long term HODLers unaffected  Grin

942  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: December 02, 2021, 01:25:00 PM
Just had a little time travel to 1987 and what scares me the most is the way they tried to solve the "AIDS crisis" exactly like they try to solve the "Covid19 crisis".
"ICU treatment is getting too expensive to take care of AIDS patients"
"AIDS victims should be taken care of in special 'health camps'"
"People that are likely 'vulnerable to HIV infections' and refuse testing should be forced to test by the police or get deported if still not willing to cooperate"

I guess if there was an HIV/AIDS vaccine available (Immuno tried hard back then, but failed) we would have all gotten mass-vaccinated already.


You're not just imagining the similarities, Dr. Fauci was also behind the AIDS scare as well in order to profit from it (what a shock!). This book, written by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and extremely well-researched and cited, talks about that very subject:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1510766804/?coliid=I17Q5YD6QY7FQZ&colid=O3OOTFJHUW5U&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

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The Real Anthony Fauci reveals how “America’s Doctor” launched his career during the early AIDS crisis by partnering with pharmaceutical companies to sabotage safe and effective off-patent therapeutic treatments for AIDS. Fauci orchestrated fraudulent studies, and then pressured US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regulators into approving a deadly chemotherapy treatment he had good reason to know was worthless against AIDS. Fauci repeatedly violated federal laws to allow his Pharma partners to use impoverished and dark-skinned children as lab rats in deadly experiments with toxic AIDS and cancer chemotherapies.

Gee, sound familiar? Fauci using the exact same playbook for Covid.
943  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 01, 2021, 08:18:20 PM
TL;DR poo-pooing eth is justifiable, but it is a strong competitor that is not to be dismissed.

It is not.

Do you want to actually debate this statement, or like everyone else do you want to make a blanket generalized statement without evidence to support it?

Momentum in price is not evidence that ETH contributes anything.

since I am in favor of btc and NOT in favor of eth, what is there to debate?

Well I mean, I've seen your prior posts, so I figured you were. But then why did you say that about eth?

We've had sooooo many accounts come into the WO thread over the years, that make a blanket statement about how ETH is better, how it could "flippen" BTC, or how it is a valid competitor to BTC. But whenever I've challenged them on those statements and asked for a point-by-point debate, they've all tucked tail and vanished. Because they can't even believe their own bullshit.

So you'll have to forgive my bluntness about it. But bluntness and debate is the only way to confront and dispel the delusions about ETH having any value to it at all. The emperor has no clothes. All the ETH adherents care about is its price and number go up. That's it. Which is evidenced by their disappearing act when confronted with reality.

The biggest statement I can make about ETH is that, if it were to disappear tomorrow, mankind would lose absolutely nothing. There would be no regression. That's why it has no value.

You could not say the same for Bitcoin.
944  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 01, 2021, 06:54:51 PM
This Michael Saylor Tucker Carlson interview might be more important than we might think...

Perhaps, but I am always sus on timing of such MSM displays.

The bigger question is why now?
945  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 01, 2021, 06:50:46 PM
TL;DR poo-pooing eth is justifiable, but it is a strong competitor that is not to be dismissed.

It is not.

Do you want to actually debate this statement, or like everyone else do you want to make a blanket generalized statement without evidence to support it?

Momentum in price is not evidence that ETH contributes anything.
946  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 01, 2021, 05:50:41 PM
I was present when Vitalik unveiled his plan to create Ethereum at Anthony DiIorio's Bitcoin Decentral (as it was called then) on Spadina Ave., Toronto in January 2014.

We were all offered the chance to buy in cheap in the pre-sale, but he only accepted real Bitcoin, not dollars.

While I was fascinated by his concept of smart contracts and liked his idea of multiple mining algorithms, I was appalled at the pre-mining, unlimited supply, and general lack of decentralization. My alarm bells started ringing. I smelled scam. I took a pass.

Sure, I could have made a lot of money. It made a multi-billionaire out of Anthony.

Great story Jimbo! And so true about ETH.

I remember the days on the WO thread when ETH (then ETC) was around $0.50/etc, and even Adam was going around saying "Anyone want to buy 1000 etc from me? Lol."

No one that had looked into ETC would take him up on it. That spoke volumes.

I wasn't into Bitcoin to try to make money though. That just happened. I was originally attracted by the decentralization and peer-to-peer networking. When I'd first discovered Napster, it wasn't, "oh boy, free music", it was "oh wow, p2p file sharing". I watched as it morphed from fully centralized Napster, through Gnutella, to Bittorrent, and then to Magnet Links, becoming more and more decentralized as it went. When I saw that Bitcoin combined that with the monetary system, I was sold. I saw Bitcoin as doing for wealth what the internet did for information.

Same here. The potential to make any profit from ETH never mattered to me, what mattered is that it had all the hallmarks of a scamcoin from the very beginning. And since then nothing has changed, except that the scam has gotten bigger, and worse. The people involved are being gaslit into believing something that will never be true.
947  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 01, 2021, 04:08:42 PM
Since it appears it is a slow day and ChartBuddy is having all the fun, here's some alt news that the MSM refuses to cover:

948  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 01, 2021, 01:29:34 PM
OT: Watch what the politicians do, not what they say.

What they say: "We need more affordable home building in the U.S. !"

What they do: https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/softwood-lumber-1.6262036
949  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 01, 2021, 01:09:03 PM
Is it just me or does Raoul Pal just talk a load of nonsense and always gives a very vague roundabout answer to every question?  Huh

Surprised to see so many people have a complete orgasm when he appears on crypto channels such as InvestAnswers today.

What's up with the weird red barber chair behind him? Is he really just a local barber in the Caymans and disguised as a hedge fund manager?

I think one comment on the video about Pal hit the nail on the head:

"The one thing I don’t like about Raoul is he uses crypto as a way to maximize his USD. He’s a fiat maximalist disguised in crypto clothing."

To me he just seems to back what he thinks is the fastest horse without any justification other than being lucky, switching from BTC to ETH: "I saw it when the chart changed."
Whatever...

I stopped listening to him when he made it clear that he prefers shitEthereum to Bitcoin. He does this on the basis that the user base is going to grow much more, and this year shitEther has gone up more than Bitcoin, so yes, the only thing he cares about is the return it gives him in fiat USD.

I prefer Bitcoin for other reasons. Obviously, if we believed that bitcoin would not give us any return, or even losses, none of us would invest in it. But even though there may be shitcoins that have more return than bitcoin in the future, and even though the parabolic price rises might be over for Bitcoin (which remains to be seen), it is worth investing in because it frees us from the clutches of central banks and governments.



Why I'm suspicious of Ethereum:

  • No specific supply limit set, only now that the devs / Vitalik can see what a limit has meant for BTC and Eth competitors are they wanting to go down the deflationary / burning route. This does not give great confidence in the original idea behind Eth I think. More like a market reaction which puts it more in line with things like stocks (company stock by back stuff etc). This means in future they can just release another trillion Eth if they feel like it. But the devs / Vitalik would sell their own stash first obviously.
  • It's heavily dependent on other "iffy" things such as NFTs and "Binance Smart Chain" which is an absolute nonsense system to use, I mean a browser plug in, wtf is that nonsense in 2021. I think the majority of all these things running on Ethereum will fail and be forgotten about in the next 5-10 years max.
  • When BTC drops, Eth appears to drop harder. Yes Eth has grown against BTC over the last year but look at what happened end of 2017 - beginning of 2018, Eth is only just catching up where it was against BTC back then. It is not a long term hedge against BTC if that happens again.
  • ETH has a lot of competition which seems to be attracting many devs, such as Solana. BTC has proven to survive competition and forks and is still king after 12 years. Eth less than 5 years on 2nd-3rd place.
  • ETH nonsense high gas fees. We have recently seen billion dollar plus movements on BTC's blockchain that cost less than a dollar. Why would a competitor to BTC even end up in this situation?

None of this stuff is ever addressed by Raoul Pal, so he just comes across as a shiller rather than someone who has critical thought.

It is disappointing to see James from InvestAnswers who is already suspicious of Eth's growth also not bring any of these points up in his talk with Pal.

When you put in even 5 minutes of research into shitEthereum to find out that it's a giant scam platform with zero redeeming humanitarian value long term, then you realize that investing in shitEthereum is both immoral and antithetical to the goals of Bitcoin. The only people that are going to get wealthy with shitEthereum are Vitalik and all the other scammers who he sold his pre-mined coins to.

Also, beware the so-called "crypto experts" who start off evangelizing Bitcoin, only to pivot away to some shitcoin after they have gained their followers' trust. They were a bullshit wolf-in-sheeps-clothing all along who never truly believed in the ideology and goals of Bitcoin.
950  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 01, 2021, 12:54:39 PM
I was leaning on the idea that @jack was a bleeding heart idealist type, and he was the one responsible for the corporate "censorship" Twitter has performed along with the other centralized social media platforms.

But I may have been wrong.  He may have been holding back the floodgates...

What the actual $%#$ is "Content Health"?  Never mind.  You can tell by it's choice of words EXACTLY the lines this asshole is going to draw.



Good grief.  This is going to be quick...



It's like I told ya dude. Jack was the face man of Twitter, but he was ultimately beholden to the board and the investors. They were the ones pulling the strings. Often he got pushback when he stood his ground on things, or got overruled.

I'm sure that the pressure to implement policies and practices that he was not happy about, and went against his moral compass, ultimately lead to his ouster.
951  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 29, 2021, 06:10:36 PM
Madman.  Cheesy


The sanest corporate man in an insane corporate world. He knows what's what and what is coming.

The fact that he knows that there's no other better place to invest $3.57 Billion, including in share buybacks, should speak VOLUMES.

But I'm sure there are other companies doing the same on the DL, they are just not advertising it.
952  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 29, 2021, 05:19:08 PM
In any case, I won't be visiting the COVID-19 thread much

... and to be clear, I only - angrily - chose to create that thread and moderate it for the sake of sanity of this thread.

I don't like that we're being split along ideological differences, when at the core of it, we're all fruity degen WO'ers.

Let us not lose sight of the fun of why we are here in this thread.

I do not enjoy becoming "Aggro Bob" in the C19 thread, when I post content that runs counter to some narratives.

I probably won't be participating in that thread as much moving forward either. The facts, data, and stats have been presented. The evidence is overwhelming. The case has been made. There's nothing else to say on the topic. Further evidence revealed in the coming years will only strengthen the argument. In ten years, this will all be looked back upon as the great "WITFH?" moment of our time.

When pro-vaxxers starting calling the vaccine ADRs/death stats and data published by the CDC themselves as "fake news" because it didn't fit their pro-vaxx narrative, that's when I checked out.
953  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 29, 2021, 03:26:57 PM
Interesting news...

Jack Dorsey stepping down from CEO of Twitter.  Markets seem to like it (with the stock up5%).  Not sure if he intends to stay at the top of Square.

Possible this has something to do with the sharks at Elliott Management who have been trying to oust him.

Personally, I am mixed on Jack... don't quite like/trust him...

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/29/twitter-ceo-jack-dorsey-is-expected-to-step-down-sources-say.html

https://www.the-sun.com/tech/4167154/jack-dorsey-step-down-twitter-ceo/

RIP Twitter.

I could be wrong here, but it's my understanding is that Jack was the only person standing in the way of Twitter becoming more of an aggressively ad-riddled, invasive data collecting, free-speech censored, Facebook-like toxic cesspool.

Sounds like he no longer wanted to play along with the greedy wealthy investors.

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It’s also unknown why Dorsey, 45, would take a step back. But if he steps down, the next CEO will have to meet Twitter’s aggressive internal goals. The company said earlier this year it aims to have 315 million monetizable daily active users by the end of 2023 and to at least double its annual revenue in that year.
954  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: November 29, 2021, 02:11:04 PM
So why don't we here more about antiviral treatment. Vs vaccines.

Isn't it obvious?

Because antiviral is cheap (in some parts of the world, nearly free), excellent safety track record, and highly effective against CV19.

This was never about health. It's about money.

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Ivermectin is an FDA-approved broad-spectrum antiparasitic agent with demonstrated antiviral activity against a number of DNA and RNA viruses, including severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2).
955  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 29, 2021, 01:10:59 PM
My internet will be cut tomorrow.
The phone company is from January first no longer using the copper wires (land line) and I have land line ADSL
internet.
I have ordered fiber but it may take 6 to 12 months before they can get their asses out here and dig a cable to my house, on the other hand I only had to pay 9900 SEK for it. My neighbors who got cable when it was first installed some years ago in the area had to pay 32000 sek.
So I will be mostly using my laptop and free wifi spots in town to go online. I will try to use my phone as a wifi hot spot, but I don't know how well that will work.
The phone company tried to install a solution using a antenna and the mobile phone masts, but they couldn't get a strong enough signal.
So, I'll be on here more sporadically for a while i think, depending on how well the phone wifi solution works.

I would think things in Sweden would be better than that... Keeping you offline for up to a year is unacceptable in this day and age...

Incidentally, Malmö is (IIRC) the model name of my bed, bought in IKEA!

Also, yesterday I started watching a Swedish horror movie called Knackningar (2021). Haven't finished watching it. Will do tonight (from the beginning, for a proper watch).

What a messy post I've made, jumping from topic to topic like a bee... Sorry...

What

Well I have known about it for a while, if I had ordered fiber earlier I wouldn't have had to wait so long. We have had fiber here for quite some time, it's just stubborn me that decided that ADSL is good enough for me, and it was. And I didn't fancy paying 32000 sek when I already had ADSL that was working just fine.

Didn't know about knackningar, sounds good, will try to download it before my internet is cut of.

What about Tesla's Starlink? You might be eligible for the program in your area, not sure.

https://www.starlink.com/
956  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 28, 2021, 01:41:07 PM
Most important about mindrust =.......

He had invested X amount of FIAT and proudly announcement he had a positive exact amount of FIAT out of it.

Each person got his own goals, he achieved the goals he was chasing at.

I feel like over the years, we've seen these kinds of accounts come and go.

They come in, talk a big game about buying Bitcoin because libertarian ideology and how they are going to hodl forever.

Then in just a short time they quietly hit some pitiful goal and sell all, or quietly panic sell all.

Then they disappear from the forum, never to be heard from again.

Bitcoin has also been around a little while now. Many members of the community have passed away due to various issues. Some have gone to prison or fallen ill. I doubt it’s always about the money alone. While I’m sure there are plenty of people who have cashed out and are out living their dreams, I don’t know if we can assume that’s everyone’s story.

I guess what I mean is, although they put on a front, the whole "Bitcoin will change the world" idea is just a slogan to many of them.

It really *is* changing the world, and we are witnessing it in real time. But many were too busy focused on cashing out to fiat and making their small profit (to buy some trinket) to care.
957  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 28, 2021, 02:27:48 AM
Most important about mindrust =.......

He had invested X amount of FIAT and proudly announcement he had a positive exact amount of FIAT out of it.

Each person got his own goals, he achieved the goals he was chasing at.

I feel like over the years, we've seen these kinds of accounts come and go.

They come in, talk a big game about buying Bitcoin because libertarian ideology and how they are going to hodl forever.

Then in just a short time they quietly hit some pitiful goal and sell all, or quietly panic sell all.

Then they disappear from the forum, never to be heard from again.
958  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: November 27, 2021, 01:57:10 PM
Yes, but what about my cousin vs. her husband?

It is a logical fallacy to assume that she had a more adverse reaction to the virus because she was unvaxxed. Her symptoms could have been just as bad with vaccination, but you will never know that.

I hope some day this entire COVID-19 situation ends completely, and we go back to normality again, although it looks like it's going to be with us for some time to come. I think and believe that science is the only weapon we have against it and I hope science soon succeeds in eliminating this virus, as it has done countless times in the past.

Don't count on it. This virus is not the kind that can be "eliminated" by science. It will stick around in the populous forever, just like the flu virus. It will come and go every year. And vaxxed people will contract and spread it, just as the unvaxxed will. Our only hope is that it mutates and weakens further over time.



There is documented proof that these vaccines kill or seriously harm MORE people than they save, and some of data is from the CDC and the drug companies themselves.
https://www.skirsch.com/covid/VaccineEssentials.pdf

98% vacination rate in Portugal
, if i need to believe your source than millions of Portugese people are already dead ore hospitalised with side-effects.

Reality is it never happend including many other countries, so your source is fake news.

Thats why you live in your own conspiracy bubble after reading all that fake news out there.

Then why are their infection rates skyrocketing? Why are they going back into lockdown? Why are their hospitals full of vaxxed people? I thought full vaccination was supposed to stop the spread of the virus, and restore freedoms?

Wow, just wow. Do you guys even hear yourselves anymore? Talk about living in a bubble echo chamber.

98% vacination rate in Portugal, if i need to believe your source than millions of Portugese people are already dead ore hospitalised with side-effects.

Someone choses to neither read the data, nor extrapolate the proper math.  Roll Eyes

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959  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: November 27, 2021, 01:32:13 PM
Of course, all lives matter. It's just that, in my circle of friends, relatives and colleagues (number in the several hundreds), no one has ever died or their health permanently damaged from a COVID-19 vaccine (or any vaccine), yet many have died or their health permanently damaged from COVID-19.

I don't know if the above means anything to most, but it means something to me and I can't help but be affected by it.

But in my circle of friends, relatives and colleagues, no one has died from Covid, or even has had bad symptoms. A few have gotten it, yes, and recovered within days. "Felt like a flu" they said.

Are we going to just go by what we see around us, or should we go by science data and statistics?

Btw, you had an uncle that by your own admission was very old, and had already had a stroke. That's called a comorbidity.
960  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: November 27, 2021, 12:57:22 PM

Does someone close to us have to die, in order to realize the seriousness of the situation?
Does it have to happen to someone we know and love?

Just think about it for a minute.


People that have lost loved ones to these vaccines would say the same. But I guess that all the millions of otherwise healthy people that have either died or had serious medical ADRs within just days or weeks of taking the vaccine don't matter to you? There is documented proof that these vaccines kill or seriously harm MORE people than they save, and some of data is from the CDC and the drug companies themselves.
https://www.skirsch.com/covid/VaccineEssentials.pdf

But as long as someone that is presumably "saved" (in your mind) by a vaccine is a family member, that's all that counts?

Hmmm...interesting moral hazard.

EDIT: Btw, there was a time not too long ago, and for decades, that if a drug company were in drug trials and that drug killed or even harmed so much as 100 people, they would stop the trial and shelve the drug candidate. Because that drug was deemed toxic and they knew that the FDA would absolutely not approve it.

Now we have vaccines out there that are not even FDA approved, with an ADR rate of 2.4M in the span of a single year. Fucking unbelievable that people are defending this.
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