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961  Economy / Economics / There’s a run on Chinese banks and it’s being ignored by the world on: June 16, 2022, 10:08:35 PM
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In the anatomy of an economic crisis, a bank run is the point of no return.

Bank runs occur when people scramble to withdraw cash from banks in fear of collapse. In the worst cases, banks’ liquid cash reserves are exhausted, not everyone gets their money and the bank defaults.

It’s a grim scenario which, fortunately, has occurred rarely in history.

The most significant bank runs in the United States took place during the 1930’s Great Depression. More recently, there were runs on numerous U.S. banks during the Financial Crisis in 2008.

In Asia, bank runs have also been rare. A run on Japanese banks in 1927 led to the collapse of dozens of institutions across the country. There was a banking crisis in Myanmar in 2003 which the country has never really fully recovered from.

But perhaps since the Great Depression, none has been as significant compared to what is seemingly unfolding in China right now.

The Chinese bank run of 2022

In recent years it has become clear the Chinese people are losing faith in their financial institutions. There’s been anger over harsh COVID lockdowns in Shanghai recently, while the collapse of China Evergrande saw rare public demonstrations as residents faced the prospect of losing their life savings used as deposits for housing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwyuHzKDMyI

“Return our money” the Evergrande protestors chanted at Evergrande headquarters in Shenzhen in 2021.

The song book is eerily similar at bank branches in a number of China’s rural provinces right now.

Multiple sources contacted by Asia Markets, have confirmed deposits at the following six banks have been frozen since mid-April.


  • Yuzhou Xinminsheng Village Bank (located in Xuchang City, Henan Province)
  • Zhecheng Huanghuai Bank (City of Shangqui, Henan Province)
  • Shangcai Huimin Rural Bank (Zhumadian City, Henan Province)
  • New Oriental Village Bank (City of Kaifeng, Henan Province)
  • Huaihe River Village Bank (Bengbu City, Anhui Province)
  • Yixian County Village Bank (Huangshan City, Anhui Province)


It’s understood the banks with branches across the Henan and Anhui Provinces successively issued announcements in April, stating they would suspend online banking and mobile banking services due to a system upgrade.

At the same time, clients reported their electronic deposits in online accounts, mobile apps and third-party platforms could not be withdrawn.

This led to depositors rushing to local bank branches, only to be told they were unable to withdraw funds.

By late May, images emerged on Chinese social media of demonstrations at the front of numerous bank branches. Asia Markets has verified these images with local contacts.

According to one user on the Chinese social media platform WeChat, the protests are ongoing but are rarely mentioned in Chinese press.

“It has caused widespread concern on the internet but the media attention is not high, the highest degree of concern is the four banks in Henan.”

The People’s Bank of China (PBOC) has responded to the rural bank run. It issued a statement on April 25.

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“The People’s Bank of China is highly concerned… At present relevant departments have launched an investigation, the People’s Bank of China will cooperate with the relevant departments, to protect the rights of financial consumers.”

Fraud scheme blamed

Following the public protests and the PBOC statement, the China Banking and Insurance Regulatory Commission revealed it is investigating fraudulent activity carried about by the Henan New Fortune Group – the largest shareholder of the four banks listed above in the Henan Province. It’s understood the commission is working with police to investigate allegations that the Group colluded with bank insiders to misappropriate bank funds.

Anti-CCP group, bannedbook.org, reported the following:

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“According to a call recording between depositors and police officers, a company named Henan New Fortune Group Investment Holdings Co., Ltd. is suspected of illegally absorbing public deposits, and the amount is huge.”

Bank run contagion to “sweep across China”

Regardless of the cause, the developments raise serious questions about the health of China’s and its regulatory oversight. The more immediate concern, however, is the prospect of contagion, which could see the (so-far) rural-only bank run spread to bigger cities.

There’s evidence this is already happening.

In one of the only mainstream international media articles to report on the unfolding situation, local residents highlighted the seriousness of the situation and the likelihood of contagion.

From the Financial Times on June 9:

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“Some depositors such as Xu have already lost trust in the system. The 39-year-old said he had withdrawn all of his deposits from 10 other small banks that had promised him an annualised yield of more than 4 per cent.

“Another depositor, a 30-year-old father, said he had placed more than Rmb900,000 in his village’s banks since 2020 at a return of 4.1 per cent. “I felt like being slaughtered,” he said, declining to give his name. He drove overnight to negotiate with the banking regulator in Zhengzhou, capital of Henan, in mid-May. “This is the money my wife and I have saved together since we got married. I had to lie to her that I was away for work.”

On Twitter, a video of a large line at an ICBC Bank in China (one of China’s largest state-owned banks) posted on Tuesday, June 9, suggest contagion is in progress.

Translated to English, the tweet reads “The bank card system is locked, and these people are here to unlock it. Massive runs are coming.”

Blogger, Jennifer Zeng, has reported major issues with withdrawing cash from banks in Shanghai in recent days. The uncertainty no doubt exacerbated by the prospect of more lockdowns as COVID cases again spike.

“All banks in Shanghai have restricted depositors from withdrawing money… A bank run is about to sweep China,” she said.

Should the world be worried about Chinese banks?

The lack of reporting about the clear signs of a bank run in China is somewhat surprising.

As HSBC China’s Xuefang Liu puts it, “The rise of China as a global economic power has caused concern that a crisis in Chinese banking could lead to a worldwide downturn similar to the Global Financial Crisis.”

While many analysts believed China’s banking system was widely immune to the Evergrande Crisis, cracks are beginning to emerge and should this bank run intensify, already volatile global markets could be faced with a black swan event even more significant than Evergrande.


https://www.asiamarkets.com/chinese-banks-run/


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Bank industry woes in china have been an ongoing topic for many years now. This latest escalation is merely the latest link in a long chain. If china's economy suffers, its role as production hub of the world could suffer setbacks as well. The united states having the largest consumer market in the world, could negatively affect global consumption. Recent troubles in china and the united states could hit the world's biggest production and consumption markets, for a double whammy that could prove difficult to weather.

Experts and analysts have predicted economic doom and gloom for so many consecutive decades that people had begun to believe it could never occur. "If it hasn't happened by now, it never will." Is the common belief held by the public. Even conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones are shocked and surprised when their own negative predictions pan out.

We expected humanity to be more rational and reasonable. Enough to avoid our own worst case scenarios. Things could be bad. But perhaps there could be a positive upside as well. Chinese debt could make invasion of taiwan and the south china sea difficult to finance. Perhaps if we're lucky the end result of economic downtrend will be peace.

How does everyone see events panning out.
962  Economy / Economics / Apple wants to replace all passwords with biometrics on: June 15, 2022, 11:53:58 PM
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Apple’s iOS 16 and macOS Ventura will introduce passwordless login for apps and websites. It’s only the beginning.

YOUR PASSWORDS ARE terrible. Year after year, the most popular passwords leaked in data breaches are 123456, 123456789, and 12345—‘qwerty’ and ‘password’ come close behind—and using these weak passwords leaves you vulnerable to all sorts of hacking. Weak and repeated passwords are one of the most significant risks to your online life.

For years, we’ve been promised a more secure, password-free future, but it seems like 2022 will actually be the year that millions of people start to move away from passwords. At Apple’s Worldwide Developer Conference yesterday, the company announced it will launch passwordless logins across Macs, iPhones, iPads, and Apple TVs around September of this year. Instead of using passwords, you will be able to log in to websites and apps using “Passkeys” with iOS 16 and macOS Ventura. It’s the first major real-world shift to password elimination.

So how does it work? Passkeys replace your tired old passwords by creating new digital keys using Touch ID or Face ID, Apple’s vice president of internet technologies, Darin Adler, explained at WWDC. When you are creating an online account with a website, you can use a Passkey instead of a password. “To create a Passkey, just use Touch ID or Face ID to authenticate, and you’re done,” Adler said.

When you go to log in to that website again, Passkeys allow you to prove who you are by using your biometrics rather than typing in a passphrase (or having your password manager enter it for you). When signing in to a website on a Mac, a prompt will appear on your iPhone or iPad to verify your identity. Apple says its Passkeys will sync across your devices using iCloud’s Keychain, and the Passkeys are stored on your devices rather than on servers. (The use of iCloud Keychain should also solve the problem of losing or breaking your linked devices.) Under the hood, Apple’s Passkeys are based on the Web Authentication API (WebAuthn) and are end-to-end encrypted so nobody can read them, including Apple. The system for creating Passkeys uses public-private key authentication to prove you are who you say you are.

A passwordless system would be a significant step forward for most people’s online security. As well as eliminating guessable passwords, removing passwords reduces the likelihood of successful phishing attacks. And passwords can’t be stolen in data breaches if they don't exist in the first place. (Some apps and websites already allow people to log in using their fingerprints or using face recognition, but these usually require you to first create an account with a password.)

Apple’s Passkeys aren’t entirely new—the company first detailed them at 2021’s WWDC and started testing them shortly after—and Apple isn’t the only one that wants to eliminate passwords. The FIDO Alliance, a tech industry group, has been working on the underlying standards needed to ditch passwords for almost a decade, and Apple’s Passkeys are the company’s implementation of these standards.

In recent months, FIDO has taken a series of important steps to bring the password’s demise closer to reality. In March, FIDO announced it has figured out a way to store the cryptographic keys that sync between people’s devices, calling them “multi-device FIDO credentials” or “passkeys.”

This was followed in May by Apple, Microsoft, and Google declaring their support for the FIDO standards. Jen Easterly, the director of the US Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, said adoption of the standards would keep more people safe online. At the time, the three tech giants said they would start rolling out the technology “over the course of the coming year.” Microsoft account owners have been able to ditch their passwords since September of last year, and Google has been working on its passwordless technology since 2008.

When all the tech companies have rolled out their version of passkeys, it should be possible for the system to work across different devices—in theory, you could use your iPhone to log in to a Windows laptop, or an Android tablet to log in to a website in Microsoft’s Edge Browser. “All of FIDO’s specs have been developed collaboratively, with inputs from hundreds of companies,” says Andrew Shikiar, the executive director of the FIDO Alliance. Shikiar confirms that Apple is the first company to start rolling out passkey-style technology and says this shows “how tangible this approach will soon be for consumers worldwide.”

Any success for a passwordless future depends on how it works in reality. At the moment, there are unanswered questions about what happens to your Passkeys if you want to ditch Apple’s ecosystem for Android or another platform. (Apple hasn’t yet responded to our request for comment.) And developers still need to implement changes to their apps and websites to work with Passkey. Plus, to gain trust in any system, people need to be educated about how it works. “Any viable solution must be safer, easier, and faster than the passwords and legacy multi-factor authentication methods used today,” ​​Alex Simons, the head of Microsoft’s identity management efforts, said in May. In short: If cross-device systems are clunky or a pain to use, people may shun them in favor of weak but convenient passwords.

While Apple’s Passkey and Google and Microsoft’s equivalents are still some months away (at the very least), that doesn’t mean you should idly keep using your weak or repeated passwords. Every password you use—whether it’s for a one-time account used to buy DIY supplies or your Facebook account—should be strong and unique. Don’t use common phrases, names of friends or pets, or personal information linked to you in your passwords.

Instead, your passwords should be long and strong. The best way to achieve this is by using a password manager, which can help you create and store better passwords. You can find our pick of the best password managers here. And while you’re thinking about your security, turn on multi-factor authentication for as many accounts as possible.


https://www.wired.com/story/apple-passkeys-password-ios16-ventura/


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Apple wants to replace passwords with facial recognition and fingerprint derived passcodes.

One of bitcoin's biggest selling points was it catering to a claimed 4 billion unbanked demographic around the world.

Apple's shift towards biometric based passcodes trends in the opposite direction. It limits their userbase by hardware support. Fewer end users have facial or fingerprint recognition to support the system.

Over the years there have been many successful attempts to fool fingerprint scanners. Biometrics certainly are not foolproof or hack proof.

Does anyone think this will succeed?
963  Economy / Economics / One of the Dangers of a Cashless Economy: System Fragility on: June 15, 2022, 10:58:01 PM
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As recent payment outages in Germany (and elsewhere) have shown, even proponents of a cashless economy have an interest in safeguarding the future of cash, if only for the sake of financial stability.

A few days ago, many shops in Germany had “CASH ONLY” signs displayed on their windows or at the entrance to their premises. Some establishments allowed people without cash to pay by card, but only if they provided a signature. It was as if parts of Germany’s payment system had just travelled through a wormhole back to the 1990’s, albeit with euros rather than the Deutsche Mark as the legal currency.

According to initial reports, the cause of the problems was a software glitch affecting all H5000 payment card terminals, which are widely used by German retailers including some of the largest supermarket chains. Starting on May 24 normal card payments became all but impossible for those retailers. The problems lasted for a week or so, prompting some larger retailers to replace all of their card terminals. It’s an investment that many smaller, struggling retailers can ill afford to make right now.

There are (or at least were) around 100,000 H5000 units in Germany, according to some estimates. The devices were manufactured by the US financial services provider Verifone specifically for the German market, but they are operated by eleven network operators, including Payone GmbH and Concardis GmbH.

On May 27, one of those companies, Payone, reported it was facing issues with the H5000 card terminal and that the issues were occurring throughout the country: “Like other network operators, we are currently experiencing considerable restrictions in the processing of transactions with card payment terminals of the type H5000 from the manufacturer Verifone throughout Germany.”

According to Handelsblatt, financial supervisors from Bafin and Bundesbank are already on the case. The German banking industry, which represents the interests of banks and savings banks, also announced that it would “analyze and process the disruption in depth in collaboration with the various parties involved and the supervisory authorities”. However, it also conceded that it will still take “a while” before the last H5000 terminal is replaced or updated.

The problem first came to light on May 24 when the Konsum retail chain in Dresden published the following message on its Facebook page: “Attention, an important notice for you! Due to a Germany-wide malfunction, card payments are currently not possible in our stores.”

Similar problems began to be reported by other retail chains such as Netto, Edeka, Aldi Nord, Rossman and DM as well as smaller, independent retailers and petrol stations. Initial reports suggested that H5000 card machines across Germany were experiencing a software malfunction that stopped them processing payments.

“As things stand, it will be necessary to install new software updates on all H5000 terminals, which the manufacturer will provide as soon as possible,” Payone said.

But some IT experts have pointed to a different possible cause: an expiring security certificate. The problem, it seems, is that the Verifone H5000 is a rather old albeit robust model whose so-called “End of Life” was officially announced by Verifone in 2019. The company ended its production of the terminal a year later. Although it offered limited product support until 2023, one of the embedded certificates seem to have expired unnoticed on Tuesday May 24 causing the terminals to stop working. That is the hypothesis of Jan Wildeboer, a self-described “EMEA Evengelist” at IBM-owned Red Hat who began informing the English-speaking public about the issue in a rapidly expanding Twitter thread.

Wuildeboer is a Linux expert and the H5000 was the first card terminal in Germany to run on open source software. On May 30, the Bavarian newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung reported that a “curious detail” within the network operators’ support instructions seemed to support Wildeboer’s hypothesis (machine translated):

Usually, any tech support will immediately ask the caller, “Have you tried rebooting?” In this case, the network operators advise retailers against rebooting the terminals themselves. That fits with Wildeboer’s certification thesis. Because when you reboot, the devices check their integrity, i.e. whether they may have been manipulated by hackers. If they then lack a necessary certificate, they switch to a kind of safe mode from which only an on-the-spot technician can release them.

Who’s to Blame?

Trying to apportion blame for the payment terminal outages is not going to be easy. As the article in Süddeutsche Zeitung notes, Verifone released a software update in Verifone despite having previously stated there would be no more updates after April 2021. This suggests the developers may have realized there was a potential problem with the expiring certificate. But the update seems to have reached only a few retailers, who apparently experienced no problems with their terminals. For everyone else, the devices suddenly became unusable on May 24.

This, as the article notes, is where the question of guilt gets interesting. After all, retailers in Germany have clearly lost a certain amount of business as a result of the outage. If Verifone made a software update to avert the problem, then who is responsible for the broken devices? The retailer? Or the network operator? Or did Verifone fail to give the network operators and retailers sufficient warning about how critical the unscheduled update was?

Inherent Fragility

In recent days the crisis appears to have more or less petered out, at least for the companies that have been able to replace or fix their terminals. On June 3, the newspaper Focus reported that more and more of the affected retailers can now accept credit cards and giro cards again. But the crisis still serves as a timely reminder of one of the main dangers of going completely cashless: the inherent fragility of a purely cashless economy.

At a personal level the impact of the payment outage in Germany was fairly limited, as long as you had access to cash. And just about everybody did, given that ATMs continued to work throughout the outage. In other words, there was an alternative to digital money that was widely available to all users — i.e. physical cash.

There is also something rather peculiar about Germans (as well as Austrians): they love physical money (a topic I have written on before for WOLF STREET). Even the intense demonization of cash in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic failed to shake the  German people’s faith in physical lucre, although the use of cashless payment transactions, whether by card or mobile, has grown significantly in the last two and a half years.

A recent 11-country survey by the payment companies PYMNTS and Stripe found cash and cheques are still the most common way to make in-store payments in Germany, accounting for 37% of all in-store transactions compared to 29% for card-based methods and 20% for mobile payment platforms. The study — Benchmarking the World’s Digital Transformation — found that cash is also still popular in Italy, Spain and Japan.

In many other parts of Europe, particularly in the north, cash is, to all intents and purposes, dying a natural, albeit artificially accelerated, death. For example, in France cash and cheques account for just 12.6% of in-store transactions. In the Netherlands it’s 18% and in the UK, 19%.

A Brief Foretaste

Just imagine what would happen if a similar payment card outage that just happened in Germany were to occur in Sweden, Norway, the UK or France, where far fewer people use cash. The disruptive impact would have been far greater. We already had a brief foretaste of what that might look like a few weeks ago. On Monday May 16, Norway, the world’s most cashless economy (according to its central banks), with reportedly just 4% of the population still using cash, suffered a nationwide outage of its card payment system. Card terminals went down throughout the country, leading to long queues at the ATMs.

“In a large number of shops, including grocery stores…, payment cards were useless on Monday afternoon,” reported the online newspaper Nettavisen. “Many feared that the ATMs would run out of cash as a result of the unexpected development.”

Imagine if the outage had lasted for days or weeks rather than hours, as occurred in Puerto Rico in 2017 as a result of devastation caused by Hurricane Maria. Electronic payment systems went down for weeks, turning the island into a de facto cash-only economy. So serious was the fallout that corporate clients began begging the New York Federal Reserve for large amounts of dollars in cash to meet payrolls. In the end, the Fed dispatched a jet loaded with an undisclosed amount of dollar bills to the stricken island.

Of course, there are myriad other reasons why a fully cashless society is far from desirable, including the inevitability of more granular surveillance, the loss of one of our last vestiges of personal privacy and anonymity, the exclusionary effects it will have on those who are unable to access or use digital technologies and the much greater power and control it would grant to both governments and corporations over our spending habits — and indeed potentially over our ability to spend money at all.

As Silkie Carlo, the director of the British civil liberties organization Big Brother Watch wrote in a recent op-ed for the Daily Telegraph, financial services companies have already shown a predilection for taking an interventionist approach to people’s spending:

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There are now numerous examples of cancel culture driving digital wallets to be frozen – an early notable example was PayPal freezing WikiLeaks’ account in 2010. Just months ago, the Canadian government froze bank accounts of people associated with the truckers’ “Freedom Convoy”, in an effort to quell the campaign against mandatory vaccines. With digital currency, the question fast becomes not only who watches how you spend your money, nor even who controls how you spend it, but who actually owns it?

Even people who have absolutely no qualms whatsoever about the prospect of governments, central banks and corporations instituting a cashless economy as a means of grabbing a lot more power, or arguably total power, over our lives should have serious concerns about its potential implications for the stability of the financial system. As Stefan Ingves, the governor of Sweden’s central bank, the Riksbank, warned back in 2018, replacing physical cash altogether could cause serious problems in times of crisis:

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“If the power supply is cut it’s no longer possible to make electronic payments. For reasons based purely in preparedness we need notes and coins that work without electricity.”

Of course, central banks themselves are exploring the possibility of introducing their own central bank digital currencies, or CBDCs, in the near future. A small number have already done so, including the People’s Bank of China, whose digital yuan is already being used in pilot schemes to stimulate consumption in its pandemic-hit economy. While it’s true that many central banks have insisted that physical cash will continue to exist alongside the CBDCs, central banks are not exactly known for keeping their word.



https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/06/germany-just-gave-a-timely-lesson-onthe-dangers-of-going-completely-cashless.html


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There is an interesting question raised here in terms of what token of exchange consumers could rely upon in a power outage in a cashless society.

They cite recent examples of electronic payment systems suffering outages in may. Both germany and norway appear to have had issues with this. Luckily for them the outages were resolved quickly and did no lasting harm. However had they lasted longer, many could have been left with no reliable means of purchasing gas, food or basic necessities.

Norway appears to be the most cashless economy in the world with only 4% of transactions denominated in cash. What would happen to norway if russia launched an electronic attack on its financial system? Is it ok if I can say it might be a good idea to prepare for such eventualities?
964  Economy / Economics / Wage gap between CEOs and US workers jumped to 670-to-1 last year, study finds on: June 14, 2022, 10:17:50 AM
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Report on 300 top US companies found CEOs making an average of $10.6m, with the median worker getting $23,968

The wage gap between chief executives and workers at some of the US companies with the lowest-paid staff grew even wider last year, with CEOs making an average of $10.6m, while the median worker received $23,968.

A study of 300 top US companies released by the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS) on Tuesday found the average gap between CEO and median worker pay jumped to 670-to-1 (meaning the average CEO received $670 in compensation for every $1 the worker received). The ratio was up from 604-to-1 in 2020. Forty-nine firms had ratios above 1,000-to-1.

At more than a third of the companies surveyed, IPS found that median worker pay did not keep pace with inflation.

The report, titled Executive Excess, comes amid a wave of unionization efforts among low wage workers and growing scrutiny of the huge share buyback programs many corporations have been using to inflate their share prices. US companies announced plans to buy back more than $300bn of their own shares in the first quarter of the year and Goldman Sachs has estimated that buybacks could top $1tn in 2022.

Share-related remuneration makes up the largest portion of senior executive compensation and as buybacks generally boost a company’s share price, they also boost executive pay. Senator Elizabeth Warren has called buybacks “nothing but paper manipulation” designed to increase executive pay.

The report found that two-thirds of low-wage corporations that cut worker pay in 2021 also spent billions inflating CEO pay through stock buybacks.

The biggest buyback firm was home improvement chain Lowe’s, which spent $13bn on share repurchases. That money could have given each of its 325,000 employees a $40,000 raise, according to IPS. Instead, median pay at the company fell 7.6% to $22,697.

“CEOs’ pandemic greed grab has sparked outrage among Americans across the political spectrum,” said report lead author Sarah Anderson, director of the IPS Global Economy Project. She cited one recent poll that showed that 87% of Americans see the growing gap between CEO and worker pay as a problem for the country.

IPS noted that many of the companies in its sample were also the recipients of large federal government contracts. Forty companies in the sample were awarded $37.2bn in government contracts between 1 October 2019 and 1 May 2022.

The biggest recipient was Maximus, a company that manages federal student debts and Medicare call centers, which received $12.3bn in federal contracts. In 2021, Maximus CEO Bruce Caswell collected $7.9m in compensation, 208 times the firm’s median paycheck. Maximus workers have recently staged walkouts over pay and benefits.

Amazon, the second-largest federal contractor in the sample, amassed $10.3bn in federal contracts. Last month shareholders approved a $212m pay deal for Amazon’s CEO, Andy Jassy, 6,474 times the company’s median pay.

This report offers a number of policy solutions, including actions president Joe Biden could take without waiting for Congress. “The president could wield the power of the public purse by introducing new standards making it hard for companies with huge CEO-worker pay gaps to land a lucrative federal contract,” Anderson said. The report also urges Biden to ban top executives at federal contractors from selling their personal stock for a multi-year period after a buyback.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/07/us-wage-gap-ceos-workers-institute-for-policy-studies-report


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An update to put the following 2011 statistics into perspective.



https://i.imgur.com/IrBKk5o.jpg

In 2021 the ratio of average worker salary to average CEO salary jumped 670 to 1.

Around 2011 it was 185 to 1.

If the average worker wondered where their wage hikes went. Maybe its not impossible to figure out.
965  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin's latest decline was triggered by quantum computing headlines on: June 14, 2022, 08:38:10 AM

Here is an old thread I made detailing how quantum computing headlines caused bitcoin to crash on september 20th 2019 and october 22nd 2019.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5195523.msg52859241#msg52859241

There were also cases of it in 2020.

I think the correlation between quantum computer news and declines in BTC value will become an accepted industry standard eventually.

As trends go, this is one I have tracked for many years. Which apparently people have not noticed.
966  Economy / Economics / Re: World Bank slashes global growth forecast to 2.9% on: June 14, 2022, 05:53:04 AM
A growth of 2.6% is still a growth, it's better than not having one at all or having a shrink...


The growth debate usually revolves around which sectors of the economy are credited with expansion.

In past years, the federal reserve expanded its balance sheet to fund QE (quantitative easing) programs which enabled it to buy bonds, treasuries and stocks through investment bank proxies.

That multi trillion dollar expansion of the federal reserve's balance sheet was considered net growth, even though all other sectors of the economy diminished in size.

From 2008 to the present the US financial sector and real estate markets reflect the prime examples of growth which they refer to. Which some critics claim does not exhibit true economic growth in the form of jobs, business and wages.
967  Economy / Economics / World Bank slashes global growth forecast to 2.9% on: June 13, 2022, 07:21:03 PM
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The World Bank on Tuesday slashed its global growth forecast and warned that many countries could fall into recession as the economy slips into a period of stagflation reminiscent of the 1970s.

Global economic expansion is expected to drop to 2.9% this year from 5.7% in 2021 — 1.2 percentage points lower than the 4.1% predicted in January, the Washington-based bank said in its latest Global Economic Prospects report.

Growth is expected to then hover around that level through 2023 to 2024 while inflation remains above target in most economies, the report said, pointing to stagflation risks.

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the resultant surge in commodity prices have compounded existing Covid pandemic-induced damage to the global economy, which the World Bank said is now entering what may be “a protracted period of feeble growth and elevated inflation.”

“The war in Ukraine, lockdowns in China, supply-chain disruptions, and the risk of stagflation are hammering growth. For many countries, recession will be hard to avoid,” World Bank President David Malpass said.

Growth in advanced economies is projected to decelerate sharply to 2.6% in 2022 from 5.1% in 2021 before further moderating to 2.2% in 2023, the report said.

Expansion in emerging market and developing economies, meanwhile, is projected to fall to 3.4% in 2022 from 6.6% in 2021, well below the annual average of 4.8% from 2011 to 2019.

That as inflation continues to climb in both advanced and developing economies, prompting central banks to tighten monetary policy and raise interest rates to curb soaring prices.

1970s-style stagflation

The present high-inflation, weak growth environment has drawn parallels with the 1970s, a period of intense stagflation which required steep increases in interest rates in advanced economies and triggered a string of financial crises in emerging market and developing economies.

The World Bank’s June report offers what it calls the “first systematic” comparison between the situation now and that of 50 years ago.

Clear parallels exist between then and now, it said. Those include supply side disturbances, prospects for weakening growth, and the vulnerabilities emerging economies face with respect to the monetary policy tightening that will be needed to rein in inflation.

However, there are now also a number of differences, such as the strength of the U.S. dollar, generally lower oil prices, and broadly strong balance sheets at major financial institutions, which present room for maneuver.

To reduce the risks of history repeating itself, the World Bank urged policymakers to coordinate aid for Ukraine, counter the spike in oil and food prices, and set up debt relief for developing economies.


https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/07/world-bank-cuts-global-growth-outlook-and-warns-of-70s-stagflation.html


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More economic doom and gloom. It seems that big economic crisis are like the alien clown from Stephen King's IT. They return every 50 or so years to wreak havoc among the living. After a period of years they may eventually return to hibernation, only to return in another 50 year cycle.

I think this is the first article I have seen which considered the possibility of the crisis being a global one. This could parallel the crisis of 2008, the falllout of which provided motivation for Satoshi Nakamoto to create bitcoin. While the harsh realities of economic crisis are terrible to behold. Perhaps we will witness similar trends where people invent and create new platforms like bitcoin in an effort to buck the trend and give people new options and tools to help them stave off the next economic crisis down the line. There could be a positive aspect to it which will provide opportunities to early adopters, the way that BTC did.

The recent TV series Mr Robot proposed deleting all bank records in an electronic attack in order to force a financial system reset which enabled some degree of debt forgiveness. While this approach may not be feasible, I hope someone has a good idea for how to prevent future economic tragedy that they can implement to better society.

968  Economy / Economics / Arizona’s minimum wage now tied to changes in Consumer Price Index on: June 13, 2022, 07:02:27 PM
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PHOENIX (AP) — Concern about the inflation rate is widespread following a jump to a four-decade high earlier this year. In Arizona, rising inflation has an added twist: the state’s minimum wage is now tied to changes in the Consumer Price Index.

If prices continue to rise robustly, lower-income workers here could get a significant wage boost — about one-third of all Arizonans earn the minimum or just a few dollars an hour more, according to a recent report. If the recent trend continues, Arizona’s minimum wage could increase by more than $1 and approach $14 an hour at the start of 2023.

Yet a wage hike at or near the current inflation rate could mean more belt-tightening for restaurants and other businesses, some of which could close.

“Even prior to the pandemic, restaurants have always operated on thin margins,” said Melissa Maggiore, owner of the Italian Daughter restaurant in Scottsdale, in an email The Arizona Republic. A big hike could lead to job losses, fewer hours and reduced service including more quick-serve formats, she said.

With the minimum wage tied to consumer price levels, higher inflation here could become self-perpetuating, at least compared with the many states where this isn’t the case. Inflation already is running hotter in metro Phoenix, 11% annualized through April, than in any other large urban area.

However, the state’s minimum wage increases are pegged to national inflation, not that at the local level. The U.S. rate is 8.3% currently.

Arizona has one of the nation’s highest minimum wages following passage of Proposition 206 by statewide voters in 2016. That ballot measure bumped up the minimum wage in four specified steps from $8.05 an hour in late 2016 to $12 an hour by Jan. 1, 2020.

Since then, increases are tied to changes in the national Consumer Price Index for urban workers, a widely followed U.S. inflation gauge. Arizona’s minimum-wage inflation calculation runs from September through August each year, with adjustments taking effect the following January.

For example, at the start of 2021, Arizona’s minimum wage increased moderately to $12.15 an hour from $12 in 2020, reflecting a slight 1.3% bump in U.S. inflation from September 2019 through August 2020.

Inflation then perked up to 5.3% over the 12 months through last August, pushing up Arizona’s minimum wage to $12.80 an hour starting this year.

Now inflation, as noted, is running at an 8.3% annual rate nationally, through April. If it continues at that pace through August, Arizona’s minimum wage would jump to about $13.85 an hour by Jan. 1, 2023. The Industrial Commission of Arizona officially will announce the new wage later this year.

Kelly Cooper, owner of BKD’s Backyard Joint in Chandler and two Valley locations of the Melting Pot, fears inflation could keep rising and that restaurants could face a minimum wage increase of 10% or higher by the August calculation date.

Plus, he’s concerned that there’s no provision under Proposition 206 for Arizona’s minimum wages to decline should inflation cool off sharply in the event of a recession. An elevated minimum wage could result in more job losses and business closures than otherwise would happen, making the next recession even worse, he predicts.

Economists are alarmed at the sudden uptick in inflation for goods and services beyond just labor expenses. Consumer costs have risen fairly steadily across the board, and shortages have appeared for products ranging from semiconductors and rental cars to baby formula.

The Federal Reserve is attempting to slow increases in price levels by raising interest rates. Some economists don’t think this strategy will work, though it’s too early to tell.

Arizona doesn’t have the nation’s highest minimum wage but it’s among the leaders. States that have or soon will have higher minimums include California ($15 an hour), Washington ($14.49), Massachusetts ($14.25), Connecticut ($14), New York ($13.20) and New Jersey ($13), according to a list compiled by the Labor Law Center.

Minimum wages have risen or will increase in about half of all states this year, the group said.

Yet the federal minimum has stayed at $7.25 an hour since 2009 (or $2.13 for employees who regularly receive tips). It remains in effect in 20 states, mainly in the South and Midwest.

In addition, some cities have their own minimums set above the levels in their states, including Flagstaff ($15.50) and Tucson ($13) in Arizona.

Despite a relatively high minimum wage here, 33.7% of Arizonans earn $15 an hour or less — slightly above the 31.9% share nationally, according to a recent report by Oxfam America. Workers in this group include tipped employees, farmworkers, domestic caregivers and students.

Also, people who are Black or Latino are disproportionately represented among $15-or-less workers, according to the report.

Arizona’s current minimum wage doesn’t apply to all workers. Exemptions include people employed by a parent or a sibling, those who work as a babysitter in an employer’s home on a casual basis and people employed by the Arizona state or federal governments. Another exemption applies to individuals working at small businesses that generate less than $500,000 in annual revenue.

Also, an employer may pay tipped employees — those who customarily and regularly receive tips or gratuities — up to $3 an hour less than the minimum wage, provided the employer keeps records showing that workers received at least the minimum for all hours worked.

In addition to higher minimum wages, Arizona’s Fair Wages and Healthy Families Act, which voters passed as Proposition 206 in November 2016, entitles employees to accrue paid sick time.


https://ktar.com/story/5091147/arizonas-minimum-wage-now-tied-to-changes-in-consumer-price-index/


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Pegging wage growth to inflation is a practice some european nations have implemented for years now. Arizona is 1st in the united states to adopt it.

According to the news story arizona currently ranks among the highest minimum wage rates of all US states. Arizona also ranks among the lowest average cost of living. High minimum wage coupled with low cost of living could help americans in arizona to better resist inflation. The overall picture however has many variables.

With gas prices, inflation and supply chain disruptions placing considerable stress on businesses, corporations and the private sector.

A delicate balance must be maintained to ensure markets and businesses remain viable.
969  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Importance of Multiplayer Gaming in Gambling Industry on: June 13, 2022, 06:37:32 PM

What do you think is the effect of enhancing Multiplayer Gaming implementation in the Gambling industry?




I have had the pleasure of using multiplayer gambling sites in the past.

In my experience, they are a double edged sword. It becomes easier to win as the objective shifts towards defeating your human opponents rather than the game which is a positive.

On the negative side, rewards are distributed across multiple winners, reducing potential profits below what they would be outside of multiplayer gaming.

There definitely are positives and negatives present, both of which trend towards canceling each other out.

It is nice to have a more forgiving format of gambling with higher error tolerances which multiplayer can definitely provide.
970  Economy / Economics / Bitcoin's latest decline was triggered by quantum computing headlines on: June 13, 2022, 06:19:10 PM
Quantum computer news headlines were published on may 9th, 2022 triggering a BTC decline.

I made a thread about it here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5397929.msg60088055#msg60088055



Our latest decline began on june 9th, 2022.



https://i.imgur.com/ZwYCASB.jpg


Below is the news article which I believe triggered the downtrend.


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Ministry of Defence acquires government's first quantum computer

June 9, 2022

The Ministry of Defence (MoD) has acquired the government's first quantum computer.

Quantum computers can make very complex calculations extremely quickly and their creators say they can solve the problems regular computers cannot.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ministry-defence-acquires-governments-first-025632383.html


In the price history of bitcoin, many major downtrends began on the same day that quantum computing news was published by the media.

I may have made as many as 4 or 5 different threads on this topic over more than 5 years.

For those who disagree, I ask that you take into consideration the price trend correlation between bitcoin and quantum computers being observed numerous times over the years. Its not an outlier nor an exception. I think by this point its fairly well documented even though no one seems to have heard about it.
971  Economy / Economics / Re: Richest people have a lot expenses to pay here is the solution on: June 10, 2022, 11:58:21 PM
One approach to rising prices and costs is to increase production.

Our society revolves around rampant consumerism where the role of the average individual is to consume as much as humanly possible in order to boost profit margins. Society can shift to a structure where the average person produces more, which would solve many of our shortages and price hikes over time.

Pre COVID era cultural values were most americans wanting to be high paid lawyers.

Post COVID cultural values could shift to most americans wanting to be producers of industry due to it filling the biggest gap in society.

Conditions aren't currently ideal but people can change and adapt to better suit their circumstances. It is what they are naturally prone towards doing as Charles Darwin is known for writing awhile ago.
972  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Brandable Name for Gambling on: June 10, 2022, 11:55:08 PM
It is true that building a reputation and name is important for long term brand name recognition and trust.

People trust the names and brands they recognize the most. While new names trend towards reduced trust, similar to new unknown accounts on social media.

Of course there are exceptions. Satoshi Nakamoto for one. Those who might believe the ideas or things they create are more important than the identity of those who created them.

Over the long term, some of the gambling accounts I followed turned out to be scammers. Others ended up losing money and deleted. Having a consistently profitable name in the gambling industry is a badge of honor reserved for very few.
973  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sports Betting vs Online Casino Games: Which do you prefer? on: June 10, 2022, 11:49:57 PM
He explained that sports betting requires knowledge of the sports and sophisticated strategies to win. 


That is true.

I'm prone towards overthinking and overanalyzing topics. If I lose a bet in sports gambling, I think about it for days sometimes. Until I can better define what went wrong and hopefully not make the same mistake in the future. Sometimes I wonder if I invest more thought and strategy into my sports gambling than generals on real life battlefields invest into waging war. There would never be soldiers digging trenches in a radioactive chernobyl red forest to be found in any of my sports line ups.

Dice does carry a lower curve which is better suited for those who want to gamble on fast money without having to worry over details or statistics. Having a winning mentality and winning belief which allows a person to consistently roll the dice needed to win. Eye of the tiger, heart of the cards. Dice is closer to poker in terms of players not being able to alter the cards they're dealt with strategies or clever tactics but still potentially being able to come out as a winner.
974  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Jake Paul / Amanda Serrano co-main event in August on: June 10, 2022, 11:41:12 PM

I wonder why Serrano just didn't take the Taylor rematch which it seems Taylor really wanted. Even Hearn seemed to be disappointed and very surprised it wasn't happening but maybe Jake thinks he can earn more for her with this fight. The first was a really close fight and I'm sure the rematch would have been even bigger.



Its more important for boxers to retain an undefeated status, than it is for MMA fighters. Serrano likely won't pursue the rematch unless something changes that gives her confidence she can decisively win.

I seem to remember the right side of Serrano's face being swollen in the Katie Taylor fight which is also not a good look for boxers.

If there was a rematch, I would expect Katie Taylor to improve more than Serrano. Taylor seemed to tire and lose focus in the mid rounds, which is easier to fix than any adjustments Serrano might make.
975  Economy / Economics / Re: Crypto is doing well in Thailand...or is it? on: June 08, 2022, 11:44:34 PM
I would be interested to know how residents in thailand and asia feel about the SEC.

Do they have negative or positive views of foreign regulators like the SEC regulating their own markets. The international media has illustrated unflattering portrayals of americans for years. Does asia and europe now want that unflattering image of american regulation determining key aspects of their own native markets. Do they care about state sovereignty. Thailand being geographically close to china, wouldn't it make more sense for chinese, russian or EU regulators to announce proposals for the future direction of european and asian markets.

Its hard to gauge which direction the winds of public opinion are blowing as most normal people have no voice or representation in the media. Which makes it difficult to tell what the true state of crypto is in thailand atm.
976  Economy / Economics / Italy Is Held Back by 2.6 Million People Who Have Given Up on Work on: June 08, 2022, 11:32:04 PM
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In a litany of woes Bank of Italy Governor Ignazio Visco listed this week, the sheer number of his fellow citizens who don’t bother seeking work was especially bleak.

The proportion of people active in the labor market is among the lowest in Europe, he complained to the country’s economic elite gathered in the gold-painted Shareholders’ Hall of Palazzo Koch, his institution’s home in Rome. Worst affected is the poorer south of Italy, where the governor hails from.

The labor market was only one of many weaknesses Visco highlighted in his annual speech on Tuesday. It may prove among the trickiest for the European Union to fix as it deploys skills-focused programs in its bid to reinvigorate Italy with 200 billion euros ($214 billion) of Recovery Fund cash.

Unlocking the jobs potential trapped in the inertia of the euro zone’s third-biggest economy is one of the few options available to fight the consequences of a demographic decline so stark that the world’s richest man, Elon Musk, has warned the country risks having no people left.

“Overcoming the factors that hinder productivity growth has become even more necessary” given the population outlook, Visco said. It “can only partly be countered by an improvement in the migration balance and by an increase in the labor-market participation.”

The numbers are stark: 2.62 million people are available for employment but not seeking it, more than the actual tally of jobseekers. On top of that are 872,000 part-time workers who would like more hours, and 90,000 people who want a job but aren’t immediately available, according to Bloomberg calculations based on Eurostat data.

“It makes me really sad to see these numbers,” said Andrea Prencipe, professor of innovation management and rector of Luiss University in Rome. “This points to a problem that goes beyond the usual issues of matching supply and demand, and skills. It’s a problem of mindset.”

As with many of Italy’s economic problems, the south suffers the most. Last year, when a measure of national unemployment averaged 9.5%, it was almost 24% in the area of Naples, where the 72-year-old Visco was born. The country’s third-biggest city, it is often seen as a proxy for the malaise and organized crime associated with that half of the peninsula.

Further east in Isernia, a landlocked province where the governor’s family comes from in the mountainous region of Molise, joblessness exceeded 12%.

Visco also highlighted how the country stands out for the low proportion of women in the workforce, exacerbated by the difficulty of regaining employment after having children.

But at the root of the problem is schooling. Low labor participation is “closely connected with educational attainment,” the governor said. It’s a commonly shared view. 

“We have a low-skilled labor force,” Italy Finance Ministry Deputy Secretary Maria Cecilia Guerra lamented on Rainews24 on Wednesday. “This has a big impact on our growth prospects.”

That isn’t easy to fix. Prencipe, the Luiss professor, says that simply throwing money at the problem won’t address it, even though the EU Recovery Fund does have initiatives devoted to skills and education. 

He says young people find it hard to enter the workforce after studying in Italy and need better-honed training that makes them nimbler at a time of faster-evolving employment requirements and lengthening lifespans.

Adapting to the shifting labor market is a challenge for Beatrice Tarantino. She has struggled to find a job since losing hers at an insurance company in Rome during redundancies in 2018. Currently helping a friend with childcare, she plans to return to the fray of seeking work later this year.

“After the pandemic struck, it got harder to look for a job,” the 49-year-old said. “Now I’m starting to feel too old to find one.”

Encouraging people to enter or return to the labor market is fundamental. The alternative, as Visco suggested, is that the country’s best and brightest emigrate, as almost 1 million already have done, while others do nothing. Such a challenge puts the onus on Italy to ensure that its vast injection of EU money isn’t only spent, but spent well. 

“It’s not a matter of how much funding -- which is considerable overall -- but of how we’re going to use it,” said Prencipe. “We need it to really tackle the problems related to labor and to learning.”



https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/italy-is-held-back-by-2-6-million-people-who-have-given-up-on-work-1.1773994


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When I see negative circumstances like these abroad, I always question whether these troubles could find their way to native shores. Does italy's 2.6 million not seeking unemployment resemble the future of the united states. This is a habit I developed for many years from zimbabwe to venezuelan hyperinflation. As history does fortell that these forms of crisis typically have a trickle up effect. They begin in smaller nations of the world. And trickle upwards until eventually they affect larger and wealthier nations. Looking at these negative stats, I would expect future american job markets to resemble italy's current predicament.

There is another strange slant in the news where european media sources pride themselves on primarily reporting on negatives in america. And the USA by contrast prides itself on reporting primarily on the troubles of asia and europe. Everyone reads negative news about foreigners and seldom about their own country of residence. This reinforces notions of "bad things only happen to silly foreign people and never to us". Which hampers the native capacity to respond to crisis due to residents choosing to believe such things could never come to home shores and they should be exempt from having to deal with such issues.

It could be fair to say these types of economic issues could become commonplace eventually. What will the affects be. How do we address and resolve them. There must be something that can be done.

977  Economy / Economics / Re: Decentralized control of Cryptocurrencies on: June 07, 2022, 11:55:22 PM
all countries of the world build their financial policies on the same principle, focusing on the $ USD exchange rate because the world does not yet know another better system.


Everyone with a concept of a better system. Can publicize their idea and request funding to make it a reality on kickstarter. Other avenues of more discrete funding are available from many different sources. Making it easier to develop and deploy new financial concepts today, in contrast to previous eras. Free markets can then decide the value of the new system and whether to adopt it.

Formulating new ideas and formats is the easiest and least time intensive part of this process. Which is counter intuitive in terms of it also being the most neglected aspect of development. Most do not wish to reinvent the wheel or develop a better mousetrap. They're satisfied with incremental improvements over the status quo.

Developing a better financial system runs contrary to many standard industry practices.



978  Economy / Economics / Re: LMAO: India resells Russian oil to the European Union. on: June 07, 2022, 11:54:13 PM
I would guess other nations are also purchasing and reselling russia's oil and commodities in a process of commodity laundering. The high profit and low risk involved are too great to ignore. Consumers are willing to pay a little extra to have a clearer conscience and believe they're purchasing oil and natural gas from india, rather than russia. Its a common practice with sweatshops, child labor and slave labor. People turn a blind eye to corruption and exploitation, pretending they do not exist, to avoid guilt.

The same negative precedent is found in other markets and supply chains around the world.
979  Economy / Economics / Re: Uncertanity and fear in economics and clarity how to stay calm on: June 07, 2022, 11:26:55 PM
Also no matter what there is also someone ir group of people specially wall street guys who benefits from all of this whats going on around the world bull market or bear.


Wall street and the upper tier wealth bracket could suffer from a decline of the middle class, supply chain shortages and other negatives. Investors like Warren Buffett could be hit hard by stock market declines while CEOs earning salaries of $10,000 an hour could see their wage rate decrease in a recession. Already we see the richest man in the world, Elon Musk, unhappy with circumstances in his attempt to buy twitter to effect positive social change. Other one percenters are losing wealth and not happy with the direction of the economy. Those at the top are losing money, the same as those on the bottom.



This knowledge we should teach kids in the school so the kids will learn life all ready in their early age and they will never in the pointless fear and even in economic turmoil and confuse situation they will know exacly whats going on.


Many believe it requires less energy, time and sacrifice to not learn things and not develop the mind. This leaves them with more time and energy for other things.

Once that belief is adopted it is very difficult, if not impossible, to convince people its worth their while to learn basic fundamentals.
980  Economy / Economics / Re: Trouble in paradise for India? on: June 06, 2022, 06:56:14 PM
Moving from a 6.6% contraction in the year 2020-2021 to an 8.7 then on to 8.9% growth in 2021-2022, it looked like they had cause to celebrate. consumer inflation has hit a 6.95% and as a result, has slashed it's yearly growth forecast to 7.2%.


There is controversy as to whether post 2020 economies are experiencing growth. Or merely returning to pre-pandemic levels.

It closely parallels the ongoing discussion as to whether global economies truly recovered from the 2008 crisis. A significant percentage of united states economic growth post 2008 was caused by the federal reserve injecting liquidity into stocks and bonds under QE (quantitative easing) programs. A high percentage of claimed economic growth in that era occurred in financial markets and was described by some as merely representing an expansion of the fed's balance sheet.

It is possible that global economies have been caught in a bubble since the 2008 economic crisis. And later the global pandemic crisis. I'm certain we've all heard plenty of doom and gloom of the past 10 years predicting disaster. Its nothing new under the sun.

I for one have to admit current era markets and economies are much more robust and durable than expected. India itself is no exception. I thought india's economy could be devastated by their rupee recalls. Tensions on the india china border which had some predicting future war, certainly did not help. But somehow economic disaster in india does not appear to have occurred.

It is possible that modern day economies are more durable than equivalent economies in the 1920s. Improvements in communications, productivity, shipping, infrastructure and the internet could all contribute towards economies being more diversified and impregnable. I would guess india will be ok.
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