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Well to be honest 1FsVcdeHbpvUVT3gjeuVR2ZSDnpcsJMsLL could be a hot wallet from another website, which would mean 19PookpZQEM2VgmwRzST3SPwcXtKcu3quy is a deposit address there. And it would mean these other scams perhaps mixed their coins a little bit through this other gambling / exchange / etc website. Still I thought it was relevant to post.
Either way I think everyone is very much wondering what DB has to say.
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169 BTC withdrawal of AK was sent to: https://blockchain.info/address/19PookpZQEM2VgmwRzST3SPwcXtKcu3quyaccording to DB. Regarding the apparent max profit mismatch we have changed the max profit percentage to 1% in the database but we forgot to change it on the UI. This is why there are bets with higher profit than the displayed max. This can only happen though if one is using a bot to submit bets because the UI prevents the submission of such bets. After latest big win though, we are decreasing the max bet to 0.2% of BR. We cant take that variance anymore. Payment is sent. https://blockchain.info/tx/42e448116787a3a9c38eedfb76f73d42f95d85de281cee5abd9b055d647dce6fEnjoy your profits. As for people who keep screaming scam scam scam, why you bother playing at us then? There are so many other dice sites,and respectable like dice.ninja, feel free and go play there. Depositing and playing on a "scammy" site, makes no sense to me. Im tired of arguments. I beg you, dont play here! Regards Then all of the 169 BTC was sent to: https://blockchain.info/address/1FsVcdeHbpvUVT3gjeuVR2ZSDnpcsJMsLLThat address "1FsVcdeHbpvUVT3gjeuVR2ZSDnpcsJMsLL" is mentioned in this scam accusation thread and accused to have 1000+ BTC stolen: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=744692.0;allSo... what is going on here  What is this address where it ended up 1FsVcdeHbpvUVT3gjeuVR2ZSDnpcsJMsLL? I lost 748.75 bitcoins on the 23rd of September 2014, most of which ended up at 1FsVcdeHbpvUVT3gjeuVR2ZSDnpcsJMsLL. I'm very interested to know who controls it. I suspect the hack resulted from the bash bug. Attack vectors could be from using the public wifi of Puri Dewa Bharata Hotel & Villas in Legian, Bali, Indonesia or an employee at Blizzard slipping in code into the update, as coins were moved very shortly after updating StarCraft II. My set up was Bitcoin-QT unencrypted on Mac OS X 10.9.4. https://blockchain.info/tx/7c67634b40d85ae08a6300a0f8613455d5d687772f9b982a11597418d805dd3d |
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Betcoin has like 2 cash games running, obviously Seals has much more than that. The tournaments does have more players, but still less "Betcoin players" than the Seals tournaments. WPN is obviously bigger than Seals, Betcoin technically not. But yeh, it is (finally?) a real competitor after Seals basically had a monopoly for a long time. Competition should be always good imo  |
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What AK? What.. wait.. what?! I don't even understand xD
They increased the bet size after generating new seed? Did they used ur balance? damn I rly don't understand xD that would be another idiotic way to scam.
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No, AJAX would be terrible, you would have A LOT of requests, basically every second. You really should use a socket for that. However, you can definitely make a socket server in PHP. There are some libraries for it too: Ratchet, React, Wrench, PHudBase, PHPws, etc. A socket is an open connection between the client (browser) and server with bidirectional communication. If you make a bet, you send the info through the socket (and you get the result) and if others bet you get the bets from there. So it's all real-time, you only connect once. There are different libraries/servers for this, Socket.io is a popular one made in node.js. Perfect for a dice site.
An alternative is indeed getting new data with AJAX requests. With that, the browser would make a connection/request every x seconds to see if there are new bets. Obviously for a dice site this would be pretty terrible and give big lag and other problems. However AJAX is useful for other purposes.
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What is the problem with HMAC-SHA512? If there is no problem with it, why use a weaker alternative?
Speed? (No seriously.) You know what, maybe it was just a dumb question, who is going to notice the speed difference even when you have a few thousand players online at the same time on one server. But I had to ask it anyway. I did some quick research, and I think I won't go with MD5 or SHA1 at least. Someone else made this speed test on the hash functions: MD5 10.275190830230713, 10.155328989028931, 10.250311136245728
SHA1 11.985718965530396, 11.976419925689697, 11.86873197555542
SHA256 16.662450075149536, 21.551337003707886, 17.016510963439941
SHA512 18.339390993118286, 18.11187481880188, 18.085782051086426 atodorov.org/blog/2013/02/05/performance-test-md5-sha1-sha256-sha512/ And there's an older one here: http://www.cryptopp.com/benchmarks.htmlThe HMAC, if I understand it correctly, does two hashing calculations. So if MD5 = 20, and SHA512 = 36 ... (Okay okay, maybe it's a really dumb question.) The main statement hashes all 10000 entries one by one. This statement is executed 1000 times in a loop, which is repeated 3 times. So if I understand it correct it takes 18 seconds to make 30,000,000 SHA512 hashes according to that test? That's like 0.000006 second/hash? Sure MD5/SHA1 is 2x faster, but still it's basically nothing. Better make sure your server, database, code (including client-side), etc. are all good than fixing non-issues :p |
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What is the problem with HMAC-SHA512? If there is no problem with it, why use a weaker alternative?
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Here are stats for 4 sites over the last week or so.
Thanks for the stats, dooglus. IMHO, those sites allowing outsiders to invest in the bankroll really should proactively publish their own wagered and profit stats They all do. That's how I collect the stats... Sorry, I didn't make my point clear. What I want to say is that the sites should provide not only the current stats and also a list of historical stats (just like what you shown). For example, I can see PRC's site profit is 174.21708441 ฿ at this second, but I can't find its site profit 1 day ago or 1 month ago. You can see daily stats, all the way back to February on https://prcdice.eu/report/houseprofit There are also these graphs made by dreama: https://sites.google.com/site/prcdicestats/ |
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 EPIC FRAUD / RIGGED ! ====> For this to be proof, you are missing the part where you show your server / client seed and the calculations that prove the outcomes are wrong. |
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I believe it's down because Amazon AWS is having maintenance.
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Yes, you need to run Node.js so you will need an own server (perhaps there are very few shared hosting packages that do support it.) However you can always try it locally (and/or in a VM) |
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Well, for example pocketdice.io sends a PHPSESSID cookie, so it's safe to say they use PHP ( https://pocketdice.io/index.php works too  ). Besides that, you can easily see the socket.io socket. A socket is an open connection between the client (browser) and server with bidirectional communication. If you make a bet, you send the info through the socket (and you get the result) and if others bet you get the bets from there. So it's all real-time, you only connect once. There are different libraries/servers for this, Socket.io is a popular one made in node.js. Perfect for a dice site. An alternative is indeed getting new data with AJAX requests. With that, the browser would make a connection/request every x seconds to see if there are new bets. Obviously for a dice site this would be pretty terrible and give big lag and other problems. However AJAX is useful for other purposes. |
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PocketDice.io = nginx, PHP, socket.io, AngularJS About that lack of PHP sites: IMO every developer has to look per project what language and frameworks to use. Node.js is single threaded by design and is perfect for realtime communication between the browser and server. It just makes sense to use it for chatrooms, games, etc. aka dice/gambling sites It doesn't mean that PHP is necessarily bad, it's just bad for this type of website. Better yet: the 2 websites with PHP still use socket.io (node.js) for the socket. On the other hand, suggesting a MEAN (MongoDB, Express, AngularJS, and Node.js) stack for a normal informative company CMS wouldn't make much sense either (IMO.) I would prefer PHP and/or an open-source CMS for that specific goal. |
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I like the idea of knowing this, so let's make an overview (grouped by backend language, not really sorted) | Site | Server | Backend | Socket lib | DB/Storage | Frontend | | Just-Dice.com | | Node.js | socket.io | redis+MySQL | | | PrimeDice.com | Cowboy | Node.js | socket.io | PostgreSQL | EmberJS | | DiceBitco.in | nginx | Node.js+Express | Primus | | AngularJS | | Dicenow.com | nginx | Node.js+Express | socket.io | | AngularJS | | Satoshibet.com | nginx | Node.js | socket.io | | | | MoneyPot.com | Cowboy | Node.js | socket.io | PostgreSQL | | | PRCDice.eu | MS-IIS | .NET | SignalR | | | | Win88.me | MS-IIS | .NET | ServiceStack | | AngularJS | | Peerbet.org | MS-IIS | .NET | --- | | | | Dice.ninja | cyclone | Python | sockjs-cyclone | MySQL | | | luckyb.it | | Python+Flask | --- | | | | Rollin.io | Apache | PHP+laravel | socket.io | | | | BitDice.me | nginx | RoR+RabbitMQ | | Redis+MySQL | |
More / corrections? Let us know |
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You cannot easily search topics that are started by a specific user in SMF 1. But this Google search query seems pretty accurate:
site:bitcointalk.org "boumalo" "pages 1"
Remove the "wap" from the URL to go to the normal page.
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According to your text this is innovative because of Dice + Poker combination?
- PocketRocketsCasino - offers poker, dice and blackjack
- Betcoin - offers poker, a full casino and sportsbook
- nitrogensports - offers poker and sportsbook
- Seals - offers poker and even a "dice" game through the lobby chat bot
I don't think it's that innovative.
You might also underestimate how hard it is to get a poker site active. I have seen almost all new bitcoin poker sites close after a few months in the last 1-2 years. The problem is that for dice it's ok to have 5 players online in the beginning, but with poker they play against each other so you need a much bigger user base.
Then 50 BTC for 30%? I understand the bankroll has to handle variance. So does this mean you will match up ~100 BTC for the 70%? Or will 50 BTC be the whole bankroll?
Because the software (with that crappy Maven poker software) or "idea" itself is not worth 166 BTC (50/30*100)
Also the whole "investors" idea in dice sites is technically wrong. It is not really investing. I can remove my "investment" from PRC, dice.ninja, or whatever at any time I want. It's just providing bankroll - not investing. You might want to explain how this will work on your site. Can I remove my "bankroll contribution" at any time I want?
Good luck though.
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Awww dooglus was before me, but I was also typing summary lol: So 600 BTC was added to cold wallet 19tQNCrmaW6EADfJrtBaRixRkPyVrvb6yk, so my very basic blockchain analysis says this: Mateo's deposit address seems 1A3rRhZHZkxaEUtbCto9cdTXKDxAveVxyG (source of that 600 BTC) Going back: He "deposited" 75 BTC on 2014-08-06 from 1Kik5z8fkZMai5DBgyBGjggFXAqVubrMkMateo withdrew 653.427 btc on 2014-09-09 to 3 addresses (3 withdrawals perhaps): 15B7kFfPJjRwhsPUBhE294nS18tuNW1jJE1Hudb5hR4v8EhHGCjFmAqniPtfxdhGuTqW15rdsWhmi8TbJJex9seGnG3nndMV3nqkM8He didn't do anything with these coins in the meantime, but deposited 650 BTC on 2014-09-17: 1A3rRhZHZkxaEUtbCto9cdTXKDxAveVxyGFew strange / interesting things IMO: 1) Would any whale deposit all 650 BTC to start playing again? Or just first 50 BTC, 100 BTC, then maybe tilt add the rest? 2) Between the "deposit" of 75 BTC and big withdrawal there is more than a month? They did say he was -33 before the winnings. 3) 1Kik5z8fkZMai5DBgyBGjggFXAqVubrMk seems a hot wallet? Was that a DB hot wallet? If so, would the only 2 explanations be: he had a former account and w/d from there into the mateo account, or it's the owner? 4) Total output of 600 BTC deposit, was 650 BTC, 50 BTC went to 122pzTq7wM3MuyohY8DGi1QNjFashzpdgS. How is that supposed to work within the depo/wd system of DB? I am not very good at analyzing the blockchain, so correct me if some of my "assumptions" are wrong |
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if they put the fund to escrow
WE worried nothing
otherwise becareful !
IMO, if you want to promote an obvious scam so other people will get their money stolen while you are getting paid, you are a semi-scammer yourself. But besides that: looking at their website it looks really cheap, so if this ponzi cannot even invest in some design for $50 I highly doubt there will be any trusted escrow for 9 coins. |
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Just sold 500 Shares, Join in on the action people Another 250 Shares sold thats 4.76 BTC per month for only 7.98015079 BTC. Lol, few hours after sketchy posts already so many shares sold ... NO. thats 4.76 BTC per month for only 7.98015079 BTC.
Lol, offering a return of 4.76*12*5 = 285.6 BTC for 7.98015079 BTC ... NO. Payment of 69.972 BTC Made to customers, Next Payment - Tuesday 30/09/2014
Lol, within 1 day after "starting this business" already 69 BTC is paid to "customers" ... NO. Wow that was awesome .. I thought i had got in to late to get the payment, but still got it Thanks so much Wish i could afford a bigger share but will have to wait till what i get from this builds up to get some more. Lol, 1-post newbie who just registered tells them how great they are, real customer? ... NO. To get some more traffic to our site we have decided to do a signature campaign
Our rates are as follows:
Hero and Senior Members
0.25 BTC for a minimum of 50 posts per month
Lol, offering more than 2x (!!) of the "normal rates" for signatures (while active sig campaigns are limited) ... NO. OBVIOUS PONZI SCAM IS OBVIOUS
DO NOT PROMOTE THEM ?? WTF |
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