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Obviously people would at least like to see an example.
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Ok, any plans to put it back up? I am sure many people would appreciate. Obviously would be just a part of the commission.
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We almost finished our affiliate system, we plan to give away 20% of our House Edge. ETA for deploy 5-6 days Any update on this? Would really like to be an affiliate. |
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If you fill in the seeds manually the result is the same though.
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You will need some decent mining power. There is this "probability of attack success calculator": http://people.xiph.org/~greg/attack_success.html For example: with 1 conf and 5% of all hash power the odds of succeeding is 10%. To double spend with 2 confs and 5% of hash power, the odds are 1%. I am not sure how this would work in real life situations though. Since having 5% mining power is way more expensive than those 10 coins, I think the "convenience" for most players is worth more than the "risk", but obviously not without any limit. So basically I think allowing 1 conf instead of 2 conf for "small" depos should be good. |
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Mm yeh I guess an "online PHP executor" is a decent/quick way to check your roll results currently. Still I hope you understand I would personally prefer not something specific to a programming language and OS.
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Seals could just allow depos smaller than 10 coins with 1 conf, and above that more confs. Seems fair/safe to me.
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I understand, but that reply was to 'mudiko' who seemed shocked when I said " site cancelled"  |
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No, don't worry. It means they might have some DoS attack and will be back very soon. They have a long history and are very trustworthy. " ... cancelled. ty micon" is just a troll phrase used in lobbychat since the "donkdown" radioshow / freeroll was cancelled once or something like that It was not serious. edit: Ah, on Twitter: https://twitter.com/sealswithclubs" Having datacenter issues at the moment, working on getting everything back up and running." |
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SITE CANCELLED. TY MICON
On serious note: that "decked out december" looks really nice. I hope we can have more things like that. I also enjoyed that "plo8 mini series" last year.
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Thanks. I am currently only adding established and most popular sites. I do monitor BikiniDice and I will add them as they become more popular.
Also: one thing I don't like about them, is that you need PHP (experience) and a Linux environment to check your roll results (PHP+Windows doesn't even work.) This basically makes them not provably fair for most users. All the big dice websites use almost the same method with a few variations. They generally use functions like SHA256 hashing, HMAC_SHA512 hashing, etc. that have many online tools when you google "HMAC SHA512 hash online", this makes it easy to manually verify. Also, these functions are available in Javascript so it allows other developers, like myself, to make a verifier for it (that transparently runs in the browser.) BikiniDice is the only site that has to use a specific PHP function that only works on Linux.
Provably fair is not just an algorithm to calculate the roll results. It is a tool for users to verify their rolls to make sure they were not cheated. So this should be as easy as possible for the users.
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Here are some ways:
- friends
- PD signature (like MICRO - see his sig)
- share it on twitter/facebook/etc (especially if you have a bitcoin related twitter account with a lot of followers)
- have own website (like me - see my sig)
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I am staking my mate FoxMulder on betcoin for almost all OSS events and this is really disappointing. He is >>top 10<< stack on event #34 and shit just gets cancelled. Then he only gets refund for the buy-in? Really?? It was even a PLO8 tourney and I am sure he could have cashed it big time. Also he doesn't get any refund in cancelled tournaments where he was out already. See how that is unfair? This was the third time he was deep in a tourney that got cancelled to only get a silly buyin refund. You should refund based on ICM or something like that. I really hope you guys will make up for this because now we are just throwing away money.
We are unsure if you are aware of this, but the WPN network had technical difficulties which have been fixed. This network error effected all 2,500 people on the network. It of course becomes a Betcoin problem when players are playing WPN tournaments through Betcoin. We have been assured by the WPN that these technical difficulties will not occur moving forward, but there we were obviously disappointed and irate about the technical difficulties as well. I understand technical issues happen. But when Seals has technical issues that cancel a tournament they would refund based on ICM. That is the proper way to refund in a poker tournament. It is kinda irrelevant it was a WPN issue, he was playing at Betcoin. Also this happened yesterday, while it supposed to be fixed some days ago already too. Either way I hope it is really fixed because theoretically that online series is really cool and I was actually excited to stake him for most of the events, but I am not sure if he still wants to play with those issues and silly unfair refunds. |
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No, in total he wagered 248 coins but dissappeared after 210 coins and obviously I only got commission on that 210 coins.
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Yeh, the biggest problem is most non-dice gambling sites are not open with their stats (mostly just "no of bets" - which is least important to me.) IMO casinos (slots/BJ/etc), poker, sportbooks, etc. are not really comparable to dice sites anyway. I think for these sites other things are more relevant than comparing the current listed statistics. I am planning to make separate websites for those with a slightly different concept for each type of game. Obviously MoneyPot and diggit.io are 2 exemptions from that and could easily be compared to the dice sites since the stats are also transparent. But the "only" problem is that it's dicesites.com hehe I do like both sites so I will still consider if there is any way I could add them in the future. |
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*Condensed*
4.) Referall Bonuses: I know a lot of users have had issues that referral bonuses have not been paid as they should (simply quoting people from chat); however I personally used the referally link of my brother, who runs a twitter feed and has been promoting PrimeDice for weeks.
- I had never registered as a user or played PrimeDice at all prior to using his link and setting up my account. However we work in the same office, on a dedicated IP, although I would think the site would differentiate us as users as I used my own computer and again had never used the site before.
- After betting personally over 1100 BTC (Im top for the week on Leaderboard) - he has never seen a referall commission for me.
- He also mentioned his referal count on his affiliate link page lists 20+ referalls, yet only 7 or 8 actually "list" below in terms of names. And out of all these only 500 Satoshis have been paid. I can inderstand his frustration considering he A.) Turned me onto the site, where I have wagered 1100 BTC, B.) His other referrals dont seem to add up or even tally corrctley, C.) He has done a decent amount of promotion on his twitter feed with 3000 plus followers - all crypto related - and seen zero returns.
Can this be addressed? I'm wondering if it's an issue of correctly being linked or another outside issue. I could only imagine the frustration of thinking you're linked properly and then not receive a single satoshi after crazy betting volume like this. 1100BTC * 1 % * 20% = 2.2BTC ? I think u need to be accessing the site for the first time when u use ref link. There are some protections against reffing urself . I don't think i ever had issues with it . Other than list of names is not able to keep up . It needs to be longer or scrollable . List doesn't always show all the names , but statistics , ref counter and total commission should work properly . But i would suggest u to email support with it and they will take a look. Actually there really seems to be an issue. I referred 11 players, only 5 are listed. Now the interesting part is that only 1 player really played, he wagered 248 coins. But after 210 coins, he just disappeared from my list and my commission is "only" 0.21 (on 10%.) Obviously I will email the support with details so they can investigate the issue, but just confirming that there really seems to be a problem. Ps, I am still happy with my commission and the PD affiliate system is pretty good. But just saying |
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I am staking my mate FoxMulder on betcoin for almost all OSS events and this is really disappointing. He is >>top 10<< stack on event #34 and shit just gets cancelled. Then he only gets refund for the buy-in? Really?? It was even a PLO8 tourney and I am sure he could have cashed it big time. Also he doesn't get any refund in cancelled tournaments where he was out already. See how that is unfair? This was the third time he was deep in a tourney that got cancelled to only get a silly buyin refund. You should refund based on ICM or something like that. I really hope you guys will make up for this because now we are just throwing away money.
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Maybe your bot should realize the amounts in the API are satoshis? (well at least the "stats" are, I assume it's the same with bets.) |
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I like your provably fair page. Nicely written.
Thanks, I actually just made that today so I am glad you like it. For others: I made a provably fair explanation here: http://dicesites.com/provably-fair and did my best to make it as simple/clear as possible  I think Win88 has an invest option with it.
It used to have an invest option, but it has been closed for more than 2 months already. Correct. They currently do allow private investors of at least 10 BTC (or if you already had an investment before.) Because of this I just decided to call it " no invest option" since it's not really open and I don't have access to statistics of it either. |
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