Still down. This site is worth a two dozen Slashdots and a million Reddits. I demand Something Be Done!   My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? |
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Could you possibly be any more melodramatic? "Had to relocate" makes it sound like Frap.doc was chased out (with only the clothes on his back) by violent men bearing assault rifles and German Shepards. Frap.doc was welcome to continue his XT cheerleader thread in the proper altcoin sub. But that wasn't good enough for him; he demanded it remain in place on the main board. So it was locked, because there is no 'Frap.doc exemption' to the rules against altcoin shilling in the Bitcoin forum. Exemption? Why do you write such BS? This forum is full of unrelocated XT threads. |
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  the only force i see is the censorship Aww, sad Frap.doc has a sad.  You really don't understand the enormous difference between moderation and censorship? Or are you invoking the specter of authoritarianism in a cheap attempt to rationalize your pouting? Bitcoin is forking, the forum is forking and the Gold thread as well. This is only a cheap copy of the original thread for haters, stalkers, warriors and censorship lovers. The original thread is alive and well. Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions.[1]
Governments, private organizations and individuals may engage in censorship. When an individual such as an author or other creator engages in censorship of their own works or speech, it is called self-censorship. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship#cite_note-1 |
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The problem is that our usual discussion thread for this type of thing (Gold Collapsing. Bitcoin UP) was locked by the Forum Administrators. Furthermore, my submissions to /r/bitcoin are all censored now. Since I've lost my two favourite outlets, my Bitcoin addiction is leaking into nearby threads...
http://bitco.in/forum/threads/gold-collapsing-bitcoin-up.16/Only 43 newbies over there and not a single hero! Why did they close down the old thread in the first place? It used to be a nice place to collect info. Anyone knows specifics?  Yeah, such a shame. That was about the only thread i actually read together with Masterluc's en Klee's thread. Bitcointalk is not doing good these days. Trolls are allowed but cypher gets censored. all this time we were worried about central control systems from outside but it turns out they are like cancer they grow from within. Yes, unbelievable but true.  |
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The problem is that our usual discussion thread for this type of thing (Gold Collapsing. Bitcoin UP) was locked by the Forum Administrators. Furthermore, my submissions to /r/bitcoin are all censored now. Since I've lost my two favourite outlets, my Bitcoin addiction is leaking into nearby threads...
http://bitco.in/forum/threads/gold-collapsing-bitcoin-up.16/Only 43 newbies over there and not a single hero! |
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Again, a 2MB BIP100 would not affect the fact that BIP100 will not support BIP101 I'm not sure why I have to repeat that fact. I dont know why you repeat yourself. Nobody said that BIP100 will support BIP101. |
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Of course not. But in typical dictator fashion they have managed to use their authority, PR & industry relations to instill false expectations into more simple users and steer the masses to get behind them against a "common enemy" on the premise of "inclusion" and general abuse of the sever misunderstanding of your typical redditor.
They absolutely have a right to release different code but it should stand on its own and not require a complete propaganda campaign.
There is now a recurring theme of cripplecoiners just reusing arguments levelled against them. What you wrote is pretty much exactly what has been said about those who would block development in the area of block size increase (the dictators) and those on the forums who tirelessly post anti XT rhetoric to try and convince everyone that Mike and Gavin are the enemy. Then hilariously you suggest they should be allowed release code that stands on its own. Which is exactly what has been said about lightning. Cut and paste designed to muddy the waters. You are a relentless poster, unnaturally so IMHO. So tell me is this propaganda? "XT has already lost" It's a spam attack. 28 (twentyeight) 'posts' today. |
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No, BIP100 is directly against both BIP101 and XT.
No, it is primarily against the small blockians. The 1MBers will be forked away by BIP100 and/or BIP101. JStolfi explained it very well: No, because BIP100 starts at 1MB and can stay at 1MB. BIP101 starts higher so BIP100 would not accept BIP101 blocks. Garzik himself said he will prefer BIP101 against the 1MB 'solution' of the small blockers. I said I'd prefer pepsimax to coffee. So what? He will not only prefer it, he will support it, and so will the majority of his followers. That has nothing to do with BIP100 Edit: BIP100 starts at 1MB - that is the BIP. It can grow if the required consensus in the BIP is met for growth, but it starts at 1MB and will stay 1MB after the 'time' passes when XT fails to reach consensus. Protocol changes proposed: 1. Hard fork to remove 1MB block size limit. 2. Simultaneously, add a new soft fork limit of 2MB. 3. Schedule the hard fork on testnet for September 1, 2015. 4. Schedule the hard fork on bitcoin main chain for December 11, 2015. 5. Default miner block size becomes 1MB (easily changeable by miner at any time, as today). 6. Changing the 2MB limit is accomplished in a manner similar to BIP 34, a oneway lockin upgrade with a 12,000 block (3 month) threshold. |
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No, BIP100 is directly against both BIP101 and XT.
No, it is primarily against the small blockians. The 1MBers will be forked away by BIP100 and/or BIP101. JStolfi explained it very well: No, because BIP100 starts at 1MB and can stay at 1MB. BIP101 starts higher so BIP100 would not accept BIP101 blocks. Garzik himself said he will prefer BIP101 against the 1MB 'solution' of the small blockers. I said I'd prefer pepsimax to coffee. So what? He will not only prefer it, he will support it, and so will the majority of his followers. |
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No, BIP100 is directly against both BIP101 and XT.
No, it is primarily against the small blockians. The 1MBers will be forked away by BIP100 and/or BIP101. JStolfi explained it very well: No, because BIP100 starts at 1MB and can stay at 1MB. BIP101 starts higher so BIP100 would not accept BIP101 blocks. Garzik himself said he will prefer BIP101 against the 1MB 'solution' of the small blockers. |
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Nothing is turning. Please stop spreading false information. Do you know what a BIP is? Bitcoin improvement proposal? If person X supports a BIP, that does not mean that they support fork Y just because it has implemented it. Supporting BIP 101 =/= supporting XT.Bitpay: BIP101 (and BIP100 as well) is gaining strength, caused by XT. That's the only thing that's important. The core devs (small blockers; blockstreamers) are forced to act now (vulgo: to raise the limit), if they want to stay in the game. |
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There is no altcoin until there are two supported and surviving chains, which is economically unfeasible. Anyone that tells you otherwise is spreading FUD, less bitcoin already be an altcoin due to previous forks.
Yes, if only the mods and some trolls here would understand it! |
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BIP101 (and BIP100 as well) is gaining strength, caused by XT. That's the only thing that's important.
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