One possibility is that the attackers weren't able to get the Bitcoins from their last round of theft off the exchange before MtGox shut down.
Or on the ground of gox's notorious amateurish behavior the market priced in that there is a high probability that they lost the private keys of their wallets. Therefore they are able to show the coins to the customers, but not to send them. |
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Yes, Proudhon was right with his satirical prophecies.
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Somebody should organize a boycott mtgox campaign.
Somebody? Do it! |
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I truly hope people get their money back and do not wish people to lose money with MTGOX. Good luck to those people.
So does Andreas. Tweet: "I hope Gox resumes operations *just* long enough for everyone to leave and never return to that terribly-mismanaged company" |
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Historic facts don't need arguments. The history IS the argument against your fairy tales. The epoch of statelessnes (self-sufficiency/anarchy) was the epoch of humans without armies (anarchy).
I have heard many different definitions of Anarchy, but not even wikipedia has heard of your definition. I guess you are just making stuff up as you go. Hey, I love Raiders too! The definition is simple: Etymology
The word anarchy comes from the ancient Greek ἀναρχία, anarchia, from ἀν an, "not, without" + ἀρχός arkhos, "ruler", meaning "absence of a ruler", "without rulers")Therefore: Where you aren't ruled by rulers, you are self-sufficient. I told you a few posts ago it means "without rulers". good that you finally realize this too. That anarchy means 'without rulers' knows everybody here. What some of those nanobrains don't understand is the simple fact, that anarchy means autarky (self-sufficiency), because you aren't ruled, and where people aren't ruled, you can't find militarism and armies. Should be very easy to understand. |
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Historic facts don't need arguments. The history IS the argument against your fairy tales. The epoch of statelessnes (self-sufficiency/anarchy) was the epoch of humans without armies (anarchy).
I have heard many different definitions of Anarchy, but not even wikipedia has heard of your definition. I guess you are just making stuff up as you go. Hey, I love Raiders too! The definition is simple: Etymology
The word anarchy comes from the ancient Greek ἀναρχία, anarchia, from ἀν an, "not, without" + ἀρχός arkhos, "ruler", meaning "absence of a ruler", "without rulers")Therefore: Where you aren't ruled by rulers, you are self-sufficient. |
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Anarchy is not a concept. Anarchy (self-sufficient communities) has been the natural state of humanity for a million years. Society / collectivism (= collectivized communities, organized in patronized, monogamous tribute families = patriarchy = organized violence) is an unnatural construct, enforced by militant terrorists (state and church).
well ok i can work with your definition of anarchy. but you have to realize, this "collectivism" as you call it is just as "natural" as the anarchy. everything is natural in fact. No. Always being sick is not the natural state. It is a state of emergency and takes a comparatively short time. i have my problems with the state and the church too. but there is one thing i fear more than the state, and thats capitalism. and i trust the state to be the last defense against privately owned armies.
BS. No state - no capitalism. No state - no armies. Capitalism, socialism, armies are state bastards. o.O naive... History. Of which you do not seem to have much of a clue. blablub. try to form a coherent argument to back up your delusional statements. To 'discuss' with somebody who doesn't have any knowledge of historic facts is pointless. The epoch of statelessnes (self-sufficiency/anarchy) was the epoch of humans without armies. If you don't know anything about the history of anarchy you simply should shutup. Keep your petty insults to yourself, I am really not interested in them. Again, try to form a coherent argument on the topic, or just let it be. It's really your choice. Historic facts don't need arguments. The history IS the argument against your fairy tales. The epoch of statelessnes (self-sufficiency/anarchy) was the epoch of humans without armies (anarchy). |
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Anarchy is not a concept. Anarchy (self-sufficient communities) has been the natural state of humanity for a million years. Society / collectivism (= collectivized communities, organized in patronized, monogamous tribute families = patriarchy = organized violence) is an unnatural construct, enforced by militant terrorists (state and church).
well ok i can work with your definition of anarchy. but you have to realize, this "collectivism" as you call it is just as "natural" as the anarchy. everything is natural in fact. No. Always being sick is not the natural state. It is a state of emergency and takes a comparatively short time. i have my problems with the state and the church too. but there is one thing i fear more than the state, and thats capitalism. and i trust the state to be the last defense against privately owned armies.
BS. No state - no capitalism. No state - no armies. Capitalism, socialism, armies are state bastards. o.O naive... History. Of which you do not seem to have much of a clue. blablub. try to form a coherent argument to back up your delusional statements. To 'discuss' with somebody who doesn't have any knowledge of historic facts is pointless. The epoch of statelessnes (self-sufficiency/anarchy) was the epoch of humans without armies. If you don't know anything about the history of anarchy you simply should shutup. |
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Anarchy is not a concept. Anarchy (self-sufficient communities) has been the natural state of humanity for a million years. Society / collectivism (= collectivized communities, organized in patronized, monogamous tribute families = patriarchy = organized violence) is an unnatural construct, enforced by militant terrorists (state and church).
well ok i can work with your definition of anarchy. but you have to realize, this "collectivism" as you call it is just as "natural" as the anarchy. everything is natural in fact. No. Always being sick is not the natural state. It is a state of emergency and takes a comparatively short time. i have my problems with the state and the church too. but there is one thing i fear more than the state, and thats capitalism. and i trust the state to be the last defense against privately owned armies.
BS. No state - no capitalism. No state - no armies. Capitalism, socialism, armies are state bastards. o.O naive... History. Of which you do not seem to have much of a clue. |
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Anarchy is not a concept. Anarchy (self-sufficient communities) has been the natural state of humanity for a million years. Society / collectivism (= collectivized communities, organized in patronized, monogamous tribute families = patriarchy = organized violence) is an unnatural construct, enforced by militant terrorists (state and church).
well ok i can work with your definition of anarchy. but you have to realize, this "collectivism" as you call it is just as "natural" as the anarchy. everything is natural in fact. No. Always being sick is not the natural state. It is a state of emergency and takes a comparatively short time. i have my problems with the state and the church too. but there is one thing i fear more than the state, and thats capitalism. and i trust the state to be the last defense against privately owned armies.
BS. No state - no capitalism. No state - no armies. Capitalism, socialism, armies are state bastards. |
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Bitcoin / cryptography is the tool to destroy the ponzi system of all ponzi systems: the society (= collectivism/patriarchy).
It will will bring back anarchy, which is humanism and the opposite of patriarchy.
this doesn't even remotely make any sense to me. cryptocurrencies are the logical next step for private investment banks to increase their profits and keep control over the monetary supply. They can't. They'll be obsolete as middlemen. No one needs them in a p2p-environment. nothing changes, besides the gap between rich and poor widenening even faster. but you hardly notice the difference anyway, because due to the policies enacted, the gap would als widen without cryptocurrencies that offer the speculators and rich people new ways to increase their income.
what has out society to do with collectivism? what is your concept of "anarchy" and how is bitcoin involved in that?
Anarchy is not a concept. Anarchy ( self-sufficient communities) has been the natural state of humanity for a million years. Society / collectivism (= collectivized communities, organized in patronized, monogamous tribute families = patriarchy = organized violence) is an unnatural construct, enforced by militant terrorists (state and church). |
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for me, its a ponzi scheme that makes me rich. its not very ethical, but i can't always think about others. i also want to be greedy now and then.
Please google "why bitcoin is not a ponzi" and educate yourself before posting shit like that. ... i actually have a brain. A nanobrain thanks for making my case. all i hear as counterarguments is insults, apparently some people cannot cope with different opinions. have a nice day! Bitcoin / cryptography is the tool to destroy the ponzi system of all ponzi systems: the society (= collectivism/patriarchy). It will will bring back anarchy, which is humanism and the opposite of patriarchy. The Bitcoiners are going to totally destroy your society and your "laws"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470593.0 |
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for me, its a ponzi scheme that makes me rich. its not very ethical, but i can't always think about others. i also want to be greedy now and then.
Please google "why bitcoin is not a ponzi" and educate yourself before posting shit like that. ... i actually have a brain. A nanobrain |
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I feel like the vast majority of people are investors right now. Is anyone actually using bitcoin to buy things? If so, what? I've purchased other cryptocurrencies with it, but that's it so far...
A farmer in Ohio has just repaid a loan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRNIgOnams8 |
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Sun, 02/16/2014 - 21:56 | 4443875 Soul Glow
Do you write just to read your own writing? If that is the case keep it on paper and stop wasting your time here on ZH.
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Sun, 02/16/2014 - 21:58 | 4443885 Dre4dwolf
I write whatever the fuck I want, where I want and when I want to piss off ... whoever I want.
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Sun, 02/16/2014 - 21:59 | 4443891 fonestar
+1000. That's the cryptoanarchist spirit right there!
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Lets go Japan to get our money out!!  or better wait until Mr. Sturle confirms the arrival of his SEPA payment ?  Hello Sturle this one is for you ! |
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As a CEO you should first learn how to spell the name of someone who is the target of your psychoanalysis. Otherwise the analysis won't get much credit.
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