So if there's someone to blame then it's both Christians and Muslims, not the Jews.
It's all the same bullshit. Organized violence/crime. |
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750k is not inconceivable. What is inconceivable is that a significant portion of those "coins" were highly liquid. I agree that if the numbers are that high, it is largely in part due to the use of Gox as a web wallet. The fact that Gox was an exchange is not evidence in and of itself that all coins held there were readily available on the market. Just take a look at the order books -- it puts things in perspective.
If only a smaller fraction of these coins were liquid (say, 100k), then the remaining 650k were for holding, presumably using Gox as a wallet. I still can't imagine that 6% of all coins have been held at gox, at a time when everybody should have known for month what kind of company they are dealing with. |
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A BS answer to the fact that organized violence of the world government can't be maintained in a crypto world. The cypherpunks enforce the state mafia to act more and more totalitarian, and the more totalitarian they act, the nearer is the end of a governed society. |
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*DJ Mt. Gox Lawyer: Outstanding Debt Y6.5B
*DJ Mt. Gox Lawyer: Filed For Bankruptcy Protection
*DJ Mt. Gox Lawyer: Accepted By Tokyo District Court
So around $ 60 mln outstanding debt
Only $60mln? The BS out of gox continues. Seems plausible: http://goxbalance.com/ |
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How about this going forward - financial services providers obtain insurance to cover them in the event of theft/fraud etc, and on the basis that they demonstrably exercise a duty of care and dilligence in their business dealings and in their fiduciary duty to their customers (it may be that the insurer requires a compliance with regulation perhaps ?).
I buy 5 BTC on BTC-E that subsequently proves to have been stolen from XYZ exchange (and customers A ,B and C) - customers A, B and C receive their stolen BTC back. I (and BTC-E) receive recompense from the insurance company of exchange XYZ.
Yes the banksters+government will take control of Bitcoin. That is of course the only solution. And of course it appears to have been designed to fall into their lap. And who was Satoshi again? (Hint: most realize he was likely an NSA researcher or group of NSA researchers) Most realize that NSA is paying people to spread BS as you do.
Bitcoin is the honeypot to suck in all the gullible Libertarians to their demise. And it helps to spread the NWO digital currency, which is taken over eventually.
"The Bitcoiners [and the Cypherpunks in general] are going to totally destroy your society and your "laws"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470593.0 |
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any government must do its best to protect citizens from fraud and deceptive entities like Mtgox,
it is most certainly possible to enact regulation and it will be done,
taxes must be collected on transactions,
you can thank Mark for all this and the forum moderators for protecting a Ponzi scheme
by promoting disinformation and acting like they are above the law
"The Bitcoiners are going to totally destroy your society and your "laws"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470593.0 |
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Right now, we are playing the waiting, until we have a valid confirmation of the Gox Question.
Until then, it will be from 450-550. If gox comes back up, we might see 800+ within a month or two. IF IT Doesn't, then flat 450 maybe to 380.00
The opposite is true. As soon as those criminals will have been definitely gone, the next wave up can start. |
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Seems like this Two-Bit-Idiot was hired to put an end to any plans for a possible recovery of MtGox. He kind of lets this slip on his Tumblr. As someone who has been heavily damaged by this MtGox issue, I wish they may come with a good plan to compensate us. The guy seems to want the opposite. Yes, he wants the opposite, because it would be bad for bitcoin if moral hazard behavior gets rewarded. WTF!? Who gets rewarded if Gox customers get 30% of their BTCs back? Who? Everybody who listened to sturle et al. and stored the coins there until the end. Are you nuts? I dont give a shit about your "sturle" and your private pussy vendetta you folks in here are producing. And I don't give a shit about the coins which you have entrusted to those idiots. Deserves zero rewards. |
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Seems like this Two-Bit-Idiot was hired to put an end to any plans for a possible recovery of MtGox. He kind of lets this slip on his Tumblr. As someone who has been heavily damaged by this MtGox issue, I wish they may come with a good plan to compensate us. The guy seems to want the opposite. Yes, he wants the opposite, because it would be bad for bitcoin if moral hazard behavior gets rewarded. WTF!? Who gets rewarded if Gox customers get 30% of their BTCs back? Who? Everybody who listened to sturle et al. and stored the coins there until the end. |
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You are talking about MtGox needs to die, but what if tomorrow same situation happens to bitstamp? btc-e？
If bitstamp begins to fool their customers for months as gox did, then you would have plenty of time to withdraw your coins. If you wouldn't, you shouldn't be rewarded. To reward moral hazard behavior is bad for bitcoin. |
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Seems like this Two-Bit-Idiot was hired to put an end to any plans for a possible recovery of MtGox. He kind of lets this slip on his Tumblr. As someone who has been heavily damaged by this MtGox issue, I wish they may come with a good plan to compensate us. The guy seems to want the opposite. Yes, he wants the opposite, because it would be bad for bitcoin if moral hazard behavior gets rewarded. |
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For me, the best explanation is this one:
For me the best explanation is this one: 1. The leak was found years ago. Which one? |
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The crisis document claims they've lose 742,400 out of 744,400 coins and that they only have 2000 coins left.
Here is my prediction.
The theft related to the transaction malleability was small and probably only 5-20% of their actual funds - all it did was empty their hot wallet and force them to try to redeem their cold wallet. Imo, there is no chance that they lost 99.9% of their bitcoin from that theft, since it would have equated to 500-600 coins per day since mtgox's inception; or $50,000 a day in the long, sustained stable period of a average price of $100 usd/btc.
Upon trying to redeem their huge cold wallets with around 80% of the customer's 774,000 coins; Mark discovered that the private keys could not be recovered due to some bug in his own custom coded software. Ever since he's been stalling for time, trying to recover the keys to the private storage. The document is in fact real, and mark would rather cry theft than admit that he accidentally lost the keys to 772,000 coins. The document was being circulated to potential investors so that Mtgox could be bought and no one would ever know the true depth of Mark's incompetence.
The document was leaked by someone involved in the potential acquisition and that immediately destroyed some interest in the acquisition.
I still believe that Mtgox may be acquired or some outside experts may be brought in to recover the private keys.
The private keys may not be recoverable, and 600,000-700,000 coins are lost forever.
You took your prediction from here: Summary
1. A substantial amount of the missing 740k bitcoins are still in addresses that MtGox believed they had control over
2. Transaction malleability thefts did take place, but not nearly 740k coins
3. MtGox believed they were solvent because their watch-wallet continued and continues to show expected cold storage balances
4. MtGox’s deepest coldest-cold storage reserves were never tested until the transaction malleability situation
5. MtGox can not recover the keys to the coldest-cold storage. (possibly a software problem.. custom deterministic wallet? or some other hardware/organization failure)
6. Mark has reason to think that the keys might be recoverable
7. The 2,000 odd coins mentioned in the crisis document represent whats left of the first stage cold wallet/hot wallet coinshttp://letstalkbitcoin.com/somethings-not-right-at-gox/ |
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Sturle's last post was made 22 feb. What's happening Sturle?
 There is still a 'chance' that we'll enjoy a comeback of our sturle. For me, the best explanation of the situation is this one: Summary
1. A substantial amount of the missing 740k bitcoins are still in addresses that MtGox believed they had control over
2. Transaction malleability thefts did take place, but not nearly 740k coins
3. MtGox believed they were solvent because their watch-wallet continued and continues to show expected cold storage balances
4. MtGox’s deepest coldest-cold storage reserves were never tested until the transaction malleability situation
5. MtGox can not recover the keys to the coldest-cold storage. (possibly a software problem.. custom deterministic wallet? or some other hardware/organization failure)
6. Mark has reason to think that the keys might be recoverable
7. The 2,000 odd coins mentioned in the crisis document represent whats left of the first stage cold wallet/hot wallet coinshttp://letstalkbitcoin.com/somethings-not-right-at-gox/ |
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For me, the best explanation is this one: Summary
1. A substantial amount of the missing 740k bitcoins are still in addresses that MtGox believed they had control over
2. Transaction malleability thefts did take place, but not nearly 740k coins
3. MtGox believed they were solvent because their watch-wallet continued and continues to show expected cold storage balances
4. MtGox’s deepest coldest-cold storage reserves were never tested until the transaction malleability situation
5. MtGox can not recover the keys to the coldest-cold storage. (possibly a software problem.. custom deterministic wallet? or some other hardware/organization failure)
6. Mark has reason to think that the keys might be recoverable
7. The 2,000 odd coins mentioned in the crisis document represent whats left of the first stage cold wallet/hot wallet coinshttp://letstalkbitcoin.com/somethings-not-right-at-gox/ |
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LOL @ unavailable bitcoins not lost.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
The coins are stored in a brain wallet. He hopes that he'll remember the key sometime in the future. HOPE! HOPE for the species of the hopeful ones. |
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Is it me or is MtGOX down? I get a blank page....
Can anyone confirm the same?
No. They are alive and well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWuNEw0EHMcHansel and Gretel are alive and well And they're living in Berlin She is a cocktail waitress He had a part in a Fassbinder film And they sit around at night now drinking schnapps and gin And she says: Hansel, you're really bringing me down And he says: Gretel, you can really be a bitch He says: I've wated my life on our stupid legend When my one and only love was the wicked witch. She said: What is history? And he said: History is an angel being blown backwards into the future He said: History is a pile of debris And the angel wants to go back and fix things To repair the things that have been broken But there is a storm blowing from Paradise And the storm keeps blowing the angel backwards into the future And this storm, this storm is called Progress |
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Wow. Good on the community for getting out in front of it, a stand-up lot. Where is sturle? Goxxed and sturled. Congratulations to all the 'victims' who listened to the cheerleaders of those criminals. |
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