mine too

Uh oh! They're gaining on me...

I would absolutely love to see a game like this played with Piggycoin!

Farm Satoshi is actually very well designed from what I can tell and my eleven year old enjoys playing it (under my supervision). It's a farming game using satoshis as the game unit of currency with the option of cashing out those satoshis to a real wallet.

Can something similar be developed for Piggy with a few changes? The changes that would make the experience even better are:

1. Allow for more than one account per household/IP address. I have more than one child that would enjoy playing.
2. Use PIGGY as unit of currency instead of satoshis--allow cash out to actual PIGGY wallet. Goes without saying but don't tie it to Xapo.
3. Ad free would be nice, but I understand that ads provide revenue, so ads OK. Maybe have an ad free upgrade version you pay for once (with PIGGY of course).
4. Do not make leveling up dependent on gaining referrals. Referral bonuses are OK, but kids should be able to play the game fully without having referrals. The game earnings don't have to be huge either, just positive. The real value of the game is in the learning--it's a nice little lesson on economics.
5. Have a parents' umbrella account which allows for the parents to reward their children for "in real life" accomplishments by sending PIGGY to their game accounts.
6. Allow the parents (both of them) to play too--the game is really fun.
7. Tie in other types of learning within the game, maybe science about the various animals.
8. Expand it to allow for growing crops and other farm economic activities--can also include plant science lessons.

Basically, what I'm suggesting is create a similar quest based learning game as Farm Satoshi with PIGGY as the currency.

How about it?

I was actually wondering the same thing, so thanks for that answer.

I'm more than happy to test it... but I don't run a company or have any employees. Would it still be beneficial to you if I run a test using myself as the "company" and my family members as the "employees?"

Thanks for the kind words, TeeGee. Yes. dot cu dot cc domains are free, but there is a price in that Facebook doesn't trust them. I reproduced it on the CryptoMoms forum so you can have a link to share it on Facebook.

Welcome to the forum, and welcome to the DNotes thread

I can speak to the price stability. At first I was skeptical. After one year DNotes has a track record of being the most stable cryptocoin. Just as founder Alan Yong set out to do, DNotes has held a stable value which has trended upwards over time. A year ago, it was a dream. Today, it's a fact. I'm not on the DNotes development team, but I do have my own theories about why DNotes has been such a stable coin. The article I linked to will also give you a sense of what's behind DNotes from an observer/investor's perspective. I'm sure the DNotes team will weigh in before long.

So... you first heard about Bitcoin in November 2013, and launched DNotes in February 2014. Of course you went into it with plenty of computer and entrepreneurial experience, but even so, that was some serious cramming. Three months is a very short time to study and absorb it all, then turn around and improve on the concept. I'm seriously impressed

Right--shorter block target time would make a big difference. Anyway, good to know you are prepared

This is a very interesting article. I'm not as up on the technical aspects of Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies. How is DNotes positioned to either solve this problem or never encounter it in the first place? Was it designed with much larger block size limits from the beginning?

Definitely opportunity. I was able to snag nearly a thousand DNotes at a discount on Poloniex

Thank you

OK, I got that email too. I just didn't see it right away

I had to enter a plus, then the country code followed by a space for my phone number, so it looked like this: +1 xxxxxxx It went through just fine once I had it just right.

Where was it announced that we had to verify by May 20? I only verified because I wanted to lend funds to the margin traders.

Don't worry, Dyna, I didn't spend too much time on this. I actually had a very busy weekend with life stuff, but I was kind of working this out in the back of my mind.

So... it sounds like at some point there will be shares for "Newco" outside of ownership implied in DNotes. That makes a lot of sense, actually. I'd like to be an investor in "Newco" when the time comes. I doubt I could be a large investor, but a medium or small one

That's actually another challenging sort of thing to wrap the head around: the currency itself owning a major interest in a company! Yeah, Bitcoin doesn't own anything... probably because it never occurred to anyone that Bitcoin should own anything, because money doesn't typically own stuff. No wonder you're having a tough time with a 30 second elevator pitch!

But just for fun, here's a good tag line for something: "DNotes, where your money owns a substantial part of our company!" or "DNotes, backed by our company!"

Getting the unbanked involved in cryptocurrency is going to be very interesting and fun. I'm looking forward to seeing how that unfolds, especially DNotes' central role.

That is good thinking. I think desktop wallets in general are not very suited for widespread adoption. They're just difficult and a pain in the butt sometimes. The only reason I ever use a desktop wallet is if the coin stakes. Otherwise I either use a trading platform address, or an online wallet. I don't think anyone was happier than me to discover the DNotes vault

Going back to the DNotes elevator pitch, Dyna, I think it makes a lot of sense to refer people to the forum, or where they can find out more, because there's a lot of ground to cover in 30 seconds otherwise.

Here are some thoughts I had as I was thinking about it.

1. DNotes is technically a cryptocurrency (or digital currency), but it's more than that. It's the seed of an entire economy, and also a foundation on which many future businesses will be built. You mentioned a trading platform and Coinbase like wallet in an earlier post.

2. DNotes can be thought of as shares in this economy and foundation for future enterprises. Buying DNotes isn't like buying shares in Pepsi, where the share is only about Pepsi products. It's like buying shares in every venture which will ever be built upon DNotes or even just use DNotes.

3. The actual value of DNotes is a distillation of the total value of everything built on DNotes divided by the number of DNotes in circulation. Since DNotes is going to keep adding value by creating things like the forum, the vault, and those "secret" future enterprises you can't discuss yet, then it's reasonable to expect that the price of DNotes on trade exchanges is going to keep trending upwards, and there's no particular limit as to how far upwards it will go since there's no particular limit on the value that can and will be built with it and upon it.

4. I think from an investor perspective it's important to work in how DNotes will bring the unbanked access to the financial world. I have some friends who are missionaries in a pretty remote area and their latest update letter talked about how they are working on a smartphone app to help their people group read the Bible in their own language. I'm reading this and thinking: "This is a remote area and a fairly primitive people group (primitive enough that their language doesn't yet have a written translation of the Bible... And yet the majority of them have smartphones, because even before making a print version of the Bible, they are working on a Bible app." I read about how it's projected that there will be up to 5 billion smart phones in the world soon from that interview that was posted here. If people can log into the DNotes vault using a smartphone web browser, if they can log into Poloniex using a smart phone browser, I already know that they can log into Bitcoin faucets using a smartphone web browser, (see my Could I retire on faucets thread on CryptoMoms), then we have a situation where with just a cell phone data plan, the phone itself, and some education (which we are providing on the CryptoMoms forum, see especially the guides section), people all over the world who have no bank accounts, no computers, who live out in the middle of nowhere, can get involved in DNotes and its economy. The bottom line here is that DNotes has the potential to enter a whole (very huge) segment of the world population that up until now has basically not counted when it came to traditional investments.

The challenge with elevator pitches is that since you only have 30 seconds you don't have time to go into all the details and steps that could take a potential investor from wherever he is to gaining a more profound understanding of your product. Only with DNotes, it's not just about the product. It's almost like you also have to explain what a factory is or something. Tough to do in 30 seconds. Because you can't possibly explain everything it's very easy to have the whole pitch sound very much like a bunch of hype. Even if what sounds like hype is substantiated, it's tough to convey that substance in 30 seconds.

So, I'm thinking, instead of trying to cover it all in 30 seconds, try to focus on one or two points about DNotes that would make it interesting to an investor, and which in some way connects to what the investor knows, give the talking point and then one or two facts that substantiates it, then end with directing the investor to how/where they can learn more. Maybe have a printed business card or brochure with some key short url links on it. I guess this means to have an entire "investor" section on the DNotes website. Or just link to some truly informative and helpful posts on the Cryptomoms forum? Personally, I think the way the unbanked in remote regions of the world will be able to actually acquire and use the product (DNotes) would be very interesting to an investor because you're talking about opening up a whole new financial market. If the investor is of the altruistic or philanthropic variety, then obviously you work in more language about how DNotes can really help make life better for the poor. But I realize that doesn't tickle the ears of every investor.

Here's another interesting angle I just thought about. DNotes is the product. It's also the share ("stock"). Here are some questions to develop: What does it mean for someone who owns the product to also own a stake in the company? This makes a poor person who only has a few DNotes to his name an investor and stakeholder as well as consumer. How would that alter the way we think of how economics works, etc.? How do we envision someone who owns DNotes and uses them as a product to be like? How do we envision someone who owns DNotes and holds them as an investment to be like? Do people switch from using them as product to using them as investment often? How does that look like? What would the world look like if the line between consumer and investor was blurred like that?

Related to that, it probably would be helpful to have some idea in mind of what it looks like for DNotes to be used as a product, and what it looks like for DNotes to be used as an investment.

Anyway, lots more than what would fit into the elevator pitch, but I'm guessing thinking about these things can only help, right?

I'm more with RJF on the philosophical aspects of "enhancing" humanity. Some things are probably best left as they are; there are unintended consequences to making enhancements which alter the perception of what it means to be human.

Also with RJF on for the most part keeping the topic on DNotes. But the last page or two made for some very interesting reading. It was enjoyable. I think overall people are feeling good about how things are going, and that's always a good sign

So... just making sure I understand this correctly... the way to be a part of ALL of it is to buy some DNotes. I mean, DNotes *are* the shares, right?

Would the convinced investors then be led to buy their DNotes on an exchange (first having to buy Bitcoin), or do some of them buy directly from you?

I'll be giving this more thought over the weekend...

Wow, that's pretty packed! How much prior knowledge of cryptocurrencies are we assuming on the part of the *other* people in the proverbial elevator?

Edit: I guess what I'm really asking is how are we going to anchor this by connecting it with what the recipient already knows? It doesn't have to be Bitcoin either. But whatever it is that the recipient knows that we're building on, then we have to connect DNotes to it in a way that makes sense--in 30 seconds