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2941  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: January 18, 2022, 02:00:03 AM
There should be no fuss about this 4-0, imo it's a moral victory that scorecard reads 4-0, not 5-nill at the end. This is excellent preparation for the next Ashes cycle.  Tongue Australia has no complaints as well.

Coming back to the Indian test cricket, i guess KL Rahul looks set to lead team India  Undecided , this new transition period is going to be very exciting.

Anyways Proteas fire is back so that's good news for the test cricket or SA at least.
2942  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: January 16, 2022, 05:58:41 PM
How did you guys missed this news?  Undecided

I remember Rambo was talking about taking down western cricketing block when NZ and ENG cancelled their tour and ofc non stop anti PIG 3 statements over the years from different PCB's officials.

But now Rambo is saying that it should be PIG 4. What about SL, SA, NZ, BAN etc?

https://twitter.com/iramizraja/status/1480961596197384192

I also came through this news but ignored it. Don't know what makes Raja propose such plan, when India has strictly refused to play with Pakistan due to political reasons. Also CA plan to visit Pakistan in March is sceptical. In such situation it looks funny that PCB chairman has proposed such plan, lets see what other boards say about this.
That's why this PIG-4 idea came at first place but i won't be surprised if existing PIG 3 group completely ignored them and add SA or NZ instead. After all Ganguly came up with this quadrilateral series proposal, when he took the BCCI.

Some players might back down but i wish that tour should go ahead despite all challenges and want nothing but clean sweep by Babar & co.
2943  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: January 16, 2022, 02:41:36 PM
Boland's numbers are ridiculous.. 8.6 jeezz
It is difficult to imagine anyone having a better debut than him. Unfortunately, he made his international debut a bit late.
He and Axar Patel are meme material for their country when playing against England.  Grin

Pant - He could be a good choice for long run. he's young, leading his franchise nicely and i think he proved his worth in Test team on countless occasion.
I agree that Rishab Pant could be the right choice for being new India Skipper and in long term perspective as well. Not sure about the who would be the choice for BCCI.
BCCI might tempted to go with Rohit or KL Rahul. Tough decision indeed.


~snip~

- Rohit - Captain material but 33 year old
- Rahane - He's great leader but his career is not safe anymore.
- KL Rahul - He seems first choice atm but Idk why, i didn't like his captaincy style so far (IPL and 2nd test).
- Shreyas could be great captain but he's only 1 test old in red ball so he's out of the contest as well. Same with Gill, Prithvi. They all are captain material but way too young,new or need to cement their position first.
- Bumrah - Idk if BCCI will follow CSA step (Choosing leading bowler as their captain)
- Pant - He could be a good choice for long run. he's young, leading his franchise nicely and i think he proved his worth in Test team on countless occasion.

To be very honest, the only sane option in my mind is between Rohit and Rahul, all others would be more of a temporary captain who might lead the side for a year but eventually you have to make someone else the captain, Pant I don't feel is responsible enough so far to be made captain, you want some more consistent performances from him and also some settled decisions in batting. Rahane would have been a very obvious choice before this SA series but now he obviously isn't in the options as board might consider dropping him from the squad as well.
Rohit is not long term option at all, he's already old and struggling with his fitness and injuries. I think we're about to revisit the era of Kumble-Dravid captaincy kinda period before finding any fixed captain for the next 5-6 years.

KL - Shreyas- Gill- Pant might contest for long term tenure. My personal choice would be Shreyas-Gill-Pant.

Pant does look immature sometimes which is frustrating at times but he's making habit of putting his foot down when team is in trouble. If you look at his all runs, 100s and 50s. They are not easy ones and shows immense potential. I strongly believe that he's yet to hit his peak as far as batting is concern.
2944  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: January 16, 2022, 12:23:23 AM
~snip~

Kohli was easily the best Indian test captain so far and a decent ODI+T-20 captain. Will miss him as test captain and I wish he resigned in a better manner from all formats.
I won't miss his captaincy in T-20 and ODI, actually i'm quite relieved as far as limited overs captaincy goes.

~snip~.
Only because of some nutjob trolls? By this means Jadeja/Raina should have taken some decisions too. they were attacked in similar fashion as Shami (if no one remember then you guys must be following only one type of news). I humbly suggest that avoid these type of BS in social media.

4 decades!! holy cow bhai. I thought you were in 30s or something.  Grin

Anyway 7 years sounds more than enough timeline for any captain but sudden resign might unsettle team for short period of time because we don't have any replacement for Kohli as captain in tests.

- Rohit - Captain material but 33 year old
- Rahane - He's great leader but his career is not safe anymore.
- KL Rahul - He seems first choice atm but Idk why, i didn't like his captaincy style so far (IPL and 2nd test).
- Shreyas could be great captain but he's only 1 test old in red ball so he's out of the contest as well. Same with Gill, Prithvi. They all are captain material but way too young,new or need to cement their position first.
- Bumrah - Idk if BCCI will follow CSA step (Choosing leading bowler as their captain)
- Pant - He could be a good choice for long run. he's young, leading his franchise nicely and i think he proved his worth in Test team on countless occasion.

I liked aas Jaffer's comment on his retirement, when his captaincy started wining series is foreign pitches was considered as an extraordinary thing and today is the time when if India loses a series at foreign pitch it's considered as a big setback and extraordinary thing. I don't know why critics always bash Kohli for India's losses and honestly I have never seen these people applauding him for the wins. If you go by the statistics he was even better than Dhoni in his captaincy.
Lol i remember those dark times. If we go by wins percentage in test cricket history then he's only behind Steve Waugh (71%), Ricky Ponting (62%). His winning percentage is 58%. * Min 50 test match captaincy
2945  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: January 15, 2022, 01:34:17 PM
Holy shit

I didn't see that coming, don't know who is going to lead the team now? Rahane already stripped from his vice captaincy, his place is not secure anyway. Rohit is not young guy anymore and KL Rahul doesn't look captain material to me. Interesting time is coming indeed, let's see how this new transition period goes.

Under his 7 years tenure, India become number 1 test team and stayed there for like 5-ish years. Without any doubt best Indian test captain, who changed the Indian test culture single handedly . Well done skipper, you led the team very well. Changes are part of the life but i'm going to miss him as test captain.

https://twitter.com/imVkohli/status/1482340422987169794
2946  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: January 15, 2022, 11:21:06 AM
~snip~

IPL is the biggest franchise cricket in the world and the revenue IPL makes is a huge lot.
So IPL can have the privilege to pay ICC 20% of the salary but other leagues cannot do that as they don't generate that much revenue.

And it is clear that ICC will surely give privilege to whoever is paying them and thus they stop normal international cricket. so that players can IPL is that time and their international fixtures don't overlap - which happens in the case of other leagues and that's why they don't have that many players playing.
1 correction
- BCCI only pay fixed amount to cricket board not ICC. Having said that if you look at from ECB and CA's point of view or even CSA,NZC these amounts are peanuts for them tbh.

I believe no one can do anything about IPL as long as players are getting benefit from it and time will come to that useless bilateral series would fade away and lose to franchise cricket. 
2947  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: January 15, 2022, 10:46:03 AM
King pair for Davey, guess first in Ashes history any opener got this achievement? (Uhmm guess not). OZ are 2 down and lead is only 132 atm but it looks like they are going to farm more points in this match, considering Poms are setting new low target every time they comes to bat.

Boland's numbers are ridiculous.. 8.6 jeezz
2948  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: January 14, 2022, 08:23:38 PM
Lord Thakur gave much needed breakthrough but i'm afraid its a lost cause now. We had our chances guys.

India had hard luck in this match. They had some chances in the 2nd innings but when luck is not with you, half chances won't get availed.
One example was when Dean Elgar LBW was reviewed and he survived. It was a bit controversial decision. I am not defending Indian defeat, they did not play up to the mark but there were some bad lucks too.
Yeah that decision was very crucial but it happens all the time, some decision goes your way and some don't, its all part of the game. Saffa batters out batted our batters completely and middle order performance from both side was major difference.

Head must roll in middle order.


I think now its safe to say that no WTC final for India this time. They are left with 9 more matches and i doubt if they are going to win all of em (4 are against Australia). India won last 3 BGT but we know how competitive OZ were when they last visited India.


Edit
Ravichandran Ashwin did not bowl that much in the entire series because the pitch was not spinner friendly either, since the batting was struggling they should have added another batsman who could bowl a few overs of spin.
Read somewhere that Ashwin was the first spinner to take wicket there in last 3 years or so. Sounds ridiculous
2949  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: January 14, 2022, 09:52:39 AM
I guess this is a last series for Pujara and Rahane, not expecting them to get another chance in home season at all or may be bring Pujara back when we're travelling Australia but i doubt if there is any series planned for next couple of years.

Lord Thakur gave much needed breakthrough but i'm afraid its a lost cause now. We had our chances guys.
2950  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: January 14, 2022, 02:35:10 AM
How did you guys missed this news?  Undecided

I remember Rambo was talking about taking down western cricketing block when NZ and ENG cancelled their tour and ofc non stop anti PIG 3 statements over the years from different PCB's officials.

But now Rambo is saying that it should be PIG 4. What about SL, SA, NZ, BAN etc?


https://twitter.com/iramizraja/status/1480961596197384192
2951  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: January 14, 2022, 02:18:46 AM
Ah well bhai i know you're T-20 lover and inclined towards result oriented tests but sometimes you're way too biased.
Valid points. Draws in tests are understandable if both teams still have great chances at winning the match. I do prefer T-20 format over other formats and I hate it when tests end as a draw when the result is obvious.

This is why I appreciate systems like the D/L system which provide a proper conclusion to a Cricket match irrespective of other factors.
IMO Batters grinding all day long and drawing the test in tough conditions is one of the beautiful aspect of test cricket. That's why India-England's draw at Sydney and Kiwi's draw at Kanpur were beautiful to watch (In my recent memory). Tbh I have no idea how D/L system works but having said that, i think there should be a provision that better team must get some extra points in case of draw, not perfect solution but could work as far as WTC goes.



SA vs IND

I think we messed up lol Winning series in SA seems tough task now. Fingers crossed for today  Grin

 
2952  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: January 09, 2022, 12:22:37 PM
~snip~
Ah well bhai i know you're T-20 lover and inclined towards result oriented tests but sometimes you're way too biased.  Undecided

Edit

Just look at the field, ngl it gives boner to every test fanatic.  Grin




Anyways 3 stunning results so far, 2022 looking good.

Underdog BAN beating WTC Champions at their own backyard.
Troubled South Africa beating India (Arguably the best travelling team in last 3-4 years).
3 one sided matches but finally English team showing some sort of intent and managed to pull one of the fine escape in the Ashes.
2953  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: January 09, 2022, 10:25:12 AM
The team batting later in this field of Christchurch gets more advantage. Bangladesh's decision to field first was right.
Christchurch is another flat pitch in New Zealand? I thought Bangladesh miss the greater opportunity to take advantage of this match by batting first. Let's see when will Bangladesh bat on this match; I guess only on day-3 and New Zealand might set 600 to 700 runs to chase down for Bangladesh with both the innings.
Pitch was dark green, some would say ridiculous amount of grass in comparison of subcontinent but it didn't misbehaved at all except few balls.



Exciting end of dead rubber match (in context of series), only England is capable of doing such thing. At least they fought hard in this match and interestingly Australia keep failing to close the game at SCG, 2 back to back match, first against India and today against England. May be bowlers are running out of carrot in a long run.

No more points farming for Australia. One more draw plz  Tongue

2954  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: January 08, 2022, 12:39:47 PM
~snip~

I think the chances of a draw in this match are not low yet. The Australian team is experienced. So they declared their innings before the end of the fourth day. The good news for England is that they did not lose a wicket on the fourth day. They will have 10 wickets on the fifth day. England do not expect to win by batting for 388 runs. Their goal is to draw.
If you want to draw the match, Root, Stokes and Bairstow must play a role. If these three players can play well then England can expect to win. Because no other player of the team is in the form now. The match will be a draw even if the two openers play the first full session, but it is almost impossible for them.
Pitch is complete road, weather forecast is not promising as well so draw seems fair outcome but this is English team we're talking about. They have a unique talent of collapsing even on flat wicket and they could make this test interesting. Having said that i do want to see them drawing this match and stop Aussie from farming points or stat padding.  Grin
2955  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: January 07, 2022, 03:19:05 AM
The spat between Ganguly and Kohli seems to have played a part in the defeat. His replacement (Hanuma Vihari) had a decent outing,
I'm starting to doubt your sources bhai, everything you're saying sounds like page 3 juicy stories.  Grin You are saying same thingy in other thread also (Vihari inclusion over Shreyas etc)


New year and new low for English team.

Last 10 overs. 0 runs and 3 wickets.

2956  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: January 06, 2022, 02:43:22 PM
~snip~
 And I might be wrong but even if it was hit for a six, won't get the ball somehow? Someone clarify me, please.

Only if ball finds it way to umpires or Board himself going to stands and requesting the ball from the crowd Grin. I didn't see if someone from the crowd tossed the ball.


SA vs IND

Series is most likely heading towards 1-1 as Proteas only need 66 runs now.

Only Thakur is producing fine spell. Bumrah and Shami both looked off color so far, Ashwin was okay and Miyan ji struggling with hamstring (that's why he's not bowling i suppose). SA's top order deserve full credit for this, they are batting beautifully.



Uff wicket!! Well done Lala...


Edit

Congratulation SA. Dean Elgar is man of the match, no doubt about it. Great inning.

Sportsmanship is not Siraj's forte, he deserve some spanking from Virat and Dravid.
2957  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: January 06, 2022, 07:56:07 AM
^^ Poms are lucky that they are not 1 down. Crawley should thank to Strac that his no ball might save his test career.

Gotta feel for Poor Broady, he took a 5-for (first 5-for England in this series) but he didn't get the ball after the inning because Nathan lyon hit a six into the crowd and exactly at same time Cummins declared the inning.


Edit

Rain Parera at Wanderers...


2958  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: January 06, 2022, 05:10:01 AM
While a lot of us have been focusing on the exclusion of Virat Kohli and the ongoing spat between him and Sourav Ganguly, another controversy is being played out in the margins. Hanuma Vihari was picked ahead of Shreyas Iyer, despite the latter being in good form. And this is not the first time that the selectors have given special treatment for Vihari. In a team where most of the batsmen averages around 50, Vihari has been able to get regular outings despite his test average being just 32 (I think only Temba Bavuma has a similar test batting average among all the regular batsmen).

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/ind-vs-sa-why-hanuma-vihari-replaced-virat-kohli-ahead-of-shreyas-iyer-for-johannesburg-test-101641215577645.html

The official justification is that Shreyas is unfit, which doesn't sound very believable for me.
Special treatment for Hanuma Vihari? This article sounds like Mumbai lobby usual rant when some Mumbaikar player doesn't get any chance lol

Following his career for sometime and in my reading it looks like management using him as a rubber, use and throw strategy most of the time. In the past when things got hard for the team Vihari opened the inning and majority of time poor guy bat with the tail in tough condition (Like yesterday) but when it comes to leaving out someone he's the first choice for everyone and hardly get any chance when playing at home, btw If form is the main criteria then why persisting with Pujara-Kohli-Rahane? Okay, Kohli is captain but what about other 2.

2959  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: January 06, 2022, 04:50:04 AM
IMO Rohit is temporary fix until they fine tune young guys like KL Rahul or Shreyas, if we look at ongoing SA tour, it looks like that for long term BCCI is looking at KL Rahul as next Indian captain. Doesn't matter if India wins next ICC tournament (White ball) or not under Rohit captaincy as he's already 34.

I would prefer Shreyas over Rahul. As the captain of Delhi Capitals, I believe that Shreyas has performed much better than what Rahul did with Punjab Kings. And regarding Rohit, I agree with JSRAW. He's already 34 years old and may have only 2-3 years of prime cricket left with him. And given his lack of fitness and a lack of will to manage his obesity, actually I would be surprised if he even lasts for that long. Advantage for Rahul is that he is more or less a permanent member of the playing XI, while Shreyas hasn't yet reached that level.
Shreyas more or less fixed member of limited overs squad for quite some time but making inroads into playing XI is another ball game and this is true for KL Rahul also because there is enough competition for openers slot. Having said that Shreyas would be my first choice too.

2960  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: January 05, 2022, 11:09:35 AM
~snip~

India was in very strong command but due to short burst from Rabada Proteas are back into the contest.

Lead is only 161 runs and 4 more wickets in the back. 50 more runs here and we're up for nice arm wrestle.

@JSRAW these two knew if they scored less than 50 or less than 100 runs in this innings, then their test career would have ended for sure so it seems they have saved their careers for now. Lastly not sure why did team India suddenly collapse, but I can see two good player’s batting out there for team India, and if they can somehow take lead of 350 runs then it’ll put lots of pressure on SA.
Arey bhai 350?

they are standing at 225 runs and tail is long. They don't need to score 350 on this pitch anyway, 250 target on this pitch won't be easy to chase.

Lord Thakur did his thingy again, Vihari playing anchor role but he should start to play some shots too.

Lead is 198 runs now, tail need to wag for India.
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