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Going to repeat my rant about bilateral series here.
These kind of series are waste of time as far as international cricket is concern, no board, even bcci is not going to generate enough revenue in longer run if they keep going with the bilateral series.
Future Belongs to franchise cricket or quadrilateral series, this might give some breathing space to cricketers with their schedule ,talking about Indian team schedule here specially, which sucks if you look at it.
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If Hardik fail to perform in IPL then i don't think selectors are going to consider him for selection and if by any chance he does get place in the squad then making into playing XI won't be easy task for him. I also don't like him much but i can't deny the fact that fully fit Hardik is blessing for Indian cricket. Personal feeling, bias doesn't matter to me much as long as Indian cricket is doing well.
Hardik Pandya was produced by IPL and now he has another chance to prove his worth through IPL again. But it is going to be really hard for him because the competition is far greater now. I think overall India did not live up to the expectations of a lot of people but they won the match and at the end of the day that's what matters. But questions can be asked about their bowling and obviously the captaincy because I think Venkatesh should have been given a chance to bowl in that match. Accidentally came across briefing Gujrat franchise and they were mentioning that they want Hardik the batter and Captain, not the all rounder hardik. Don't know what to make out of it but i do understand if any all rounder doing everything including captaincy then its freaking tough job to handle. Not every department is going to click in every match. sometime its bowler's day, sometime its batter or sometime complete dominance by the team. Its part of the game so its fine. |
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183 was a good competitive score but poor fielding and lame bowling by the Srilankan side resulted in the loss. Sanju Samson was very agressive yesterday and I think he was a bit unlucky with his dismissal. He and Iyer could have easily ended the match if he was not caught behind. Jadeja is a good player and in my opinion he should not be moved up as India needs players like him down the order. Series won by the Indian side now expecting a complete whitewash.
The Indian bowling was not impressive and this helped the Lankan side. The captaincy tactics were also poor from the Indian side. Venkatesh Iyer picked up 2 wickets in the previous match, but he wasn't even given an opportunity to bowl this time. And this happened despite some of the main bowlers leaking over 50 runs in their allotted 4 overs. The problem here is that Venkatesh is being hailed as a replacement for Hardik Pandya, and no matter who is the captain, Pandya will make sure that no such replacement realizes in the Indian team. If Hardik fail to perform in IPL then i don't think selectors are going to consider him for selection and if by any chance he does get place in the squad then making into playing XI won't be easy task for him. I also don't like him much but i can't deny the fact that fully fit Hardik is blessing for Indian cricket. Personal feeling, bias doesn't matter to me much as long as Indian cricket is doing well. |
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~snip~
Oh boy Iyer and Jadeja, they were batting as if they are in a hurry to go home and party, bowling wasn't that bad but Jadeja was promoted today with the intent of this destruction only. I am sure Iyer's price has been much more if he would have played these two innings before the auction, it has made a difference of around 4-5 crores in his payment. If he remains in this destructive form till IPL things would become very interesting.
I have a feeling that India is going to have hard time selecting their playing XI for upcoming T-20 WC and if by any chance they messed up then fans are going to dumb down to new level. 11 consecutive win after T-20 WC blunder, i think Indian team should treat WC trophy as Paytm trophy then they might able to cross the line. Shreyas and SKY both deserve to be in WC squad or may be playing XI, hope they keep continue with their current form and plz no injuries. |
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These T-20 and ODI bilateral series seem kinda useless to me, most of em are goes into one sided result 4-1, 3-0 etc. Just to paint clear picture India has won their 9 consecutive t-20 match and this will 10th if they manage to win, majority of em are from bilateral series (NZ, WI etc)
I hope SL wins today otherwise 3rd match is going to be dead rubber and India will keep testing their bench strength for fun. Even if SL are not winning then at least put up some fight into it.
Sri Lanka have to restrict atleast 180+ runs, only then Sri Lanka can make the winning. During the first T20 India set a good target, today the run rate for now is very small. Winning the second T20 will let India give opportunity for the young generation on the squad. India with the consecutive 11th win will make history. Fine hitting in last 5 overs, they scored 80 ish runs and now this 183 is excellent total. Let's see if dew comes into play when SL start bowling. We are up for nice contest if Indian batters clicks, i would prefer if SL successfully able to put pressure on our top order so that middle order gets much needed game time, again. This would give them fair amount of experience in international match pressure. |
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Hasaranga
I was interested to see Hasaranga vs Indian batters battle, especially our middle order SKY, Sanju and both Iyers. They are considered good striker of spin and Hasaranga is ranking up nicely and got fair amount of trick on his sleeve.
Guys community need you, please vote for the pool entry fees if you're interested in the IPL pool. Vote update 3
10 votes
Little Mouse -$30
RapTarX - $30 (Lower fees if it attract more participants)
JSRAW -$30
Royse777 - $30
akhjob -$30
eaLiTy -$30
Haneubu -$30 (Prefer $20 if it attract more participants)
pakhitheboss -$30 (Prefer $20-25 if it attract more participants)
Vaskiy - $20-25
Swordsoffreedom - $50 (Anything below 50 bucks)
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^^ Yeah read it, i guess over the years during every pool we have discussed this matter multiple times. I would've liked more if umer was into participating in the pool as well but he always shy away. Its big lose for the community because we do need at least 1 funny conspiracy theorist here  . |
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These T-20 and ODI bilateral series seem kinda useless to me, most of em are goes into one sided result 4-1, 3-0 etc. Just to paint clear picture India has won their 9 consecutive t-20 match and this will 10th if they manage to win, majority of em are from bilateral series (NZ, WI etc)
I hope SL wins today otherwise 3rd match is going to be dead rubber and India will keep testing their bench strength for fun. Even if SL are not winning then at least put up some fight into it.
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Time to cut off the SWIFT access may be?
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How unlucky Ruturaj Gaikwad is? He's keep getting injured out of nowhere and losing well deserved opening slot when majority of first choice openers are injured or rested. Gotta feel for the poor guy.
Ishan Kishan is not taking any prisoners tonight and going with stunning strike rate despite ground being a quite big. According to modern standard at least, i reckon this is not 60-70m boundary ground specially on side boundaries.
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Sorry for the late reply, Special thanks to @JSRAW for your hard work and for trying to keep the pool alive, It would be nice to have a sponsor. but if there are more participants, maybe we can run the pool without sponsors. Please count me in, any fee below 50$ is okay for me.. Thank you, everyone.  Good to have you back bhai and thanks for responding. This will be your 2nd pool if i'm not wrong? This small community is still alive, only because of you guys, otherwise many of us would've lost interest already so kudos to all of you. Couple of guys trying their best to bring sponsors, let's hope for the best.
Vote update 310 votes Little Mouse -$30 RapTarX - $30 (Lower fees if it attract more participants) JSRAW -$30 Royse777 - $30 akhjob -$30 eaLiTy -$30 Haneubu -$30 (Prefer $20 if it attract more participants) pakhitheboss -$30 (Prefer $20-25 if it attract more participants) Vaskiy - $20-25 Swordsoffreedom - $50 (Anything below 50 bucks) PS : Guys feel free to invite your friends or any like minded individuals for pool. If you want me to contact them then drop their names here, i'll contact them via DM. |
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People tend to forget the performance from India as they were dominating Australia in Australia with a second string team and then followed that up with a win over England in England and in the first Test against South Africa they won and then lost the next two matches and the series, but overall they are a much different team than they used to and i do not see any real competition if they play their best players in any condition.
Australia tour happened two years ago. Why you want to live in the past? Players like Kohli, Hard dick, Rahane, Siraj and Pujara are constantly underperforming ever since then. Since Kohli was the captain, he persisted with these people and never allowed any younger players to replace them. Only after he was dropped, promising youngsters like Venkatesh Iyer and Suryakumar could find a place in the playing XI. India is a country with 1.4 billion population and cricket is the favorite sport by a distance. If they can't perform well even in cricket, then a few questions will be asked. Sounds weird argument considering WTC is 2 years affair. Btw India has played 14 test match after BG Trophy and Won 7, lost 5 with 2 draw. Why would you want to replace red ball specialists with the white ball players? If specialist players are performing bad then they should be replace with only red ball players, not the other way around. I don't remember Hardik playing any test match in last 3-4 so don't know what are you talking about by mentioning his name. BTW Siraj is young guy in test cricket, unless you only consider 19 yo as young. |
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I wonder will PSL become a direct rival to IPL in coming year’s, and imagine both being hosted at same time it’ll definitely give player’s a tough choice on which tournament to participate in. Lastly it does seem that Pakistan is bouncing back in the cricket world, and now it’s only a matter of time before they rise up in the ICC table as I see they’re building a good base for their national team.
One is based on draft system and next is based on Auction. Rivalry or not but auction based system is hard to beat because market based demand plays the big part here and any tom-dick-harry could get easy million dollar if their luck plays out. Real comparison would be what if IPL is hosted at same time as World Cup and India not playing in the World cup. This would be more interesting considering IPL is about to become bigger after next media rights auction. If BCCI gets lucky then they will earn almost $900M to 1 billion dollar every year just from the IPL, atm they earn about $500-600 million.
Guys we are voting for IPL pool entry fees and we need community help. Please feel free to vote if you guys are interested in it. Vote update 2
9 votes
Little Mouse -$30
RapTarX - $30 (Lower fees if it attract more participants)
JSRAW -$30
Royse777 - $30
akhjob -$30
eaLiTy -$30
Haneubu -$30 (Prefer $20 if it attract more participants)
pakhitheboss -$30 (Prefer $20-25 if it attract more participants)
Vaskiy - $20-25
@teosanru is missing in the vote but i'm positive he will jump anytime and already in for the pool.
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5 participants already voted for $30 and now @eaLiTy too
If we get a few hands more with lowering the fee, I guess we should go with the lower fee as more participants mean more competition and that would be interesting. Back in the day, I guess we had a few more cricket fans here; not sure why they aren't active anymore here. webtricks, umeeridres, pakhitheboss etc. Where are they now  With few participants, it's not going to be enjoyable; will be boring TBH. Waiting for @Haneubu @teosanru to confirm. We have plenty of time so no rush ofc.
I'm fine with $30, but I still feel that $20 is the optimal starting point since lower fees could attract way more participants as some of the posters above pointed out. The primary problem with the IPL is its unpredictability which is why it's very difficult winning any of these prediction pools which is why the higher fee could chase away potential participants. Lower fees could also attract Non-Cricket lovers. Earlier i used to feel the same that lower entry fees means more participants but it hardly happened in our previous pools. If my memory serves me well then only 1 time we got 15+ participants but it happened because that time we had couple of free slots available in the pool. We are still voting so in case if we get enough vote for lower entry fees then sure why not but for that people need to vote, we can't set the fees on only assumption IMO. Thanks, @JSRAW for the DM related to IPL pool discussion. I am interested in joining the pool. I am okay with the entry fee of $30 but as @Vaskiy wrote above if the entry fee is in the range of $20-$25 then more people will be willing to participate. More participants in the pool will automatically increase the price money.
Thanks for responding bhai. out of merit
Vote update 29 votes Little Mouse -$30 RapTarX - $30 (Lower fees if it attract more participants) JSRAW -$30 Royse777 - $30 akhjob -$30 eaLiTy -$30 Haneubu -$30 (Prefer $20 if it attract more participants) pakhitheboss -$30 (Prefer $20-25 if it attract more participants) Vaskiy - $20-25 @teosanru is missing in the vote but i'm positive he will jump anytime and already in for the pool. |
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Thanks @JSRAW for notifying about the IPL pool discussion. Myself too have the same feeling of an entry fee to be between $20-$25 which is a fair amount and could attract a good number of participants.
Thanks bro, yeah atm we are kinda voting for the fees so jury still out there. 5 participants already voted for $30 and now @eaLiTy too I'll do that.. 7 participants are final and already active in our discussion.
So now 5 votes are for $30
Little Mouse
RapTarX
JSRAW
Royse777
akhjob
Other committed folks are @Haneubu @teosanru, we do need a confirmation regarding fees from you guys tho.
Vote update 17 votes so far Little Mouse -$30 RapTarX - $30 JSRAW -$30 Royse777 - $30 akhjob -$30 eaLiTy -$30 Vaskiy - $20-25 Waiting for @Haneubu @teosanru to confirm. We have plenty of time so no rush ofc. ~
I'll contact @Pffrt @eality @ Vishnu.Reang @Swordsoffreedom @Juggy777 and others via PM , they might be interested in the pool. Thanks mate for the DM, i am happy to join, let me know when to send the joining fees, happy with any fees that is discussed here. Hope we will have more users and thereby more fun and competition because this season we have 2 new teams and more matches . Great bhai, good to have you back. I believe we should get more than 10 participants. |
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A remarkable achievement by the team of young players against the West Indies. Who would have thought they'd win this way and complete a clean sweep? Watching the series, it's understandable that the West Indies play against India to lose. They don't want to win, either. Similarly, India had no goal for this series. The team simply tested its bench strength.
Nothing remarkable at all if you ask me and the result was predictable after watching West Indies fail continuously against various teams in recent times. Some of their players like Holder, Powell, Pooran etc kept delivering consistent performances while the rest let the team down while India worked well as a unit in every match. Overall, this was a training series for the Indian team as you mentioned. Majority of cricket experts, fans were making fun and trolling Nicholas Pooran when SRH bought him with high price tag and it turns out Pooran was the highest run scorer in the series with 60+ average. SRH must be very happy camp atm. Arey bhai it sounds bit disrespecting to opposition if we are using the words like "Training series". Although every bilateral series (White ball) is experiment for every team nowadays considering ICC tourney is set for every year from now on. So may be its fine here? IDK. Having said that bowling was the main difference in this series. Windies batters are no dummy in T-20 but new Indian bowling lineup did well against them. Windies death bowling was horrible, surprisingly their spinners looked more threatening to me as compare to pacer.
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If you have no idea about players or never follow test cricket in general even scorecard then stop making general comment. By making such comment, which has virtually no facts and far from reality, you're not adding anything in discussion and it might look like spam.
In last 3-4 years India did nothing in their middle order, in 99% matches Kohli-Rahane-Pujara. Only couple of match i remember when this trio didn't appear together was cause of injury issue or break. That's it. So no they didn't do any experiment with the middle order yet. Now they are moving on which is a good thing.
Don't forget India won 2 back to back series in Australia and atm leading series by 2-1 in England. They won everywhere except South Africa and NZ. Not to mention virtually undefeated at home, they lost only 2-3 series in last 20-22 years at home.
Didn't India have a bad time with their top order? Didn't they give some players chances to prove themselves and they didn't live up to the expectation? Didn't they change the squad for the Sri Lankan series? I said everything based on these questions. I guess I was wrong, so thanks for pointing out the mistakes. And unlike you, I don't wanna get aggressive. Seems like watching cricket is the meaning of your life but some of us have other work to do. And my advice is, instead of getting aggressive over some information, get a life. I understand you are probably an Indian and for some reason, you don't like opposition but that's ok. maybe next time take one thing into consideration the other person is a human and he can also make mistakes, that's why we are coming here to discuss. India travel with at least 3-4 openers depends on the form, just like any other team in the world so no it wasn't about giving chance to anyone. In Aus Shaw was not in form so Gill replaced him. When Gill got injured then Rahul replaced him in the England and when Rohit got injured Mayank got the chance, its pretty straight forward approach for any team. India sent completely new team(t-20) to Sri Lanka because India was already playing test series in the England. Here you again making same mistake by mixing T-20 with the Tests. Facts doesn't care about anyone's feeling but if by any chance by stating simple facts to your post is hurting your feeling then please you are free to enjoy your victimhood. The Indian team is being discussed because their recent performance is not very good. Especially since the time of T20 World Cup. Are you satisfied with their performance after the T20 World Cup? At least I'm not satisfied.
They lost 1 series but very same team won last 3 overseas series so what's your point? If you play good you will win, if not then you deserve to lose, its simple.Ah your main point is about T-20 only What's the connection with T-20 and Test team? But yeah they were shit in WC but its also true that they were almost unbeatable in bilateral series everywhere. Already posted Win/Loss ratio of last decade for every team couple of times. Already cleared my position on team when i posted a new squad news here in this thread. I posted this in last page
Yeah their time is up, now not worried about middle order when playing at home but these young guys need to perform in overseas conditions too and they should be given long rope for that. If not then some selectors might try bringing Puji-Rahane back in the team and in such scenario it would look good choice for the Indian team.
Personally i don't mind if Pujara keep travelling with the team when they are playing in the Australia for BG Trophy cause he had good outing there. Meanwhile Rahane scored a century in Ranji recently.
Don't know much about Saurabh Kumar but i think pitches are going to assist pacer (one match is D/N) Spin track is reserved for SENA countries.
Edit Edit : Mate, I have talked about the overall condition of the Indian team after the T20 world cup. Not about the T20 format.
@LittleBitFunny Bhai this is Test thread, that's all i can say. Although i do agree with you as far as last T-20 WC is concern. Almost everyone laughed at them for their performance at that time.
You don't understand what I mean.
Okay got your point. I mixed up your post with other poster. Yeah their performance did dip a bit but it's on focus because they lost SA series and it looked easy series for almost every fan. Can't blame anyone for NZ draw tho, it was bad luck, light did effect the game. If I'm not wrong then we lost 2-4 overs in that final session. Having said that i'm very optimistic for the new guys. Shreyas already got 1 century but i think Indian fans do have a very unrealistic expectation with their team. Win-lose are part of the game and somethime team does go into transition mode, which is completely fine IMO. |
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If the youngsters perform in the upcoming series then it is end of Cheteshwar Pujara and Ajinkya Rahane and they should hang their career. It is a fact that the career of Wriddhiman Saha is almost over once Rishabh Pant showcased his talent in the Test format and now it will be hard for him to make a return in the team unless Rishabh Pant is injured. Not sure about Ishant Sharma.
Correct now it's time for change and selectors done this on right time Pujara and Rahane already have their all chances, but sadly they completely fail to give some good performance specially after very poor lost against struggling South Africa it needs a change, and they have done now it's all on these youths they give their best for having some better for their future because it is very good opportunity for them and Pant is already in with his very good game. I actually think that India gave enough chances to their players to prove themselves again but they have failed to do so. India absolutely struggled against South Africa and I think it's absolutely visible that they had below-average batting stats. And I think they should be done experimenting with those players, because I don't think they are going to give any good results at the moment. So, it's better to go with the best squad or give some newcomers a chance to prove themselves instead of them. About the selection, I will say that very well done by the selection committee. If you have no idea about players or never follow test cricket in general even scorecard then stop making general comment. By making such comment, which has virtually no facts and far from reality, you're not adding anything in discussion and it might look like spam. In last 3-4 years India did nothing in their middle order, in 99% matches Kohli-Rahane-Pujara. Only couple of match i remember when this trio didn't appear together was cause of injury issue or break. That's it. So no they didn't do any experiment with the middle order yet. Now they are moving on which is a good thing. Don't forget India won 2 back to back series in Australia and atm leading series by 2-1 in England. They won everywhere except South Africa and NZ. Not to mention virtually undefeated at home, they lost only 2-3 series in last 20-22 years at home. |
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Yup not very active nowadays, but I'll join the pool once IPL starts. Just tag me so that I get notified Btw, I'm ok with any fee below 50$ Sure bhai Just PM me when you guys are ready to have the pool. I need to see when superbru list IPL in their website. $30 looks a good amount to start but we need to convert it into BTC so it's better if you guys start collecting the fees at least 7 days before the tournament starts.
How many of us are interested to join the pool and we can be sure that these users are joining without any doubt.
I'll do that.. 7 participants are final and already active in our discussion. So now 5 votes are for $30 Little Mouse RapTarX JSRAW Royse777 akhjob Other committed folks are @Haneubu @teosanru, we do need a confirmation regarding fees from you guys tho.
I'll contact @Pffrt @eality @ Vishnu.Reang @Swordsoffreedom @Juggy777 and others via PM , they might be interested in the pool.
Regarding IPL 2022 thread. i'll create IPL thread in last week of this month
Edit @Royse777 Just a suggestion, i think this might be a good idea if you update the thread's description. Something like this? " [Participants Only] [IPL 2021] IPL Prediction pool and discussion" |
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By the Way @JSRAW, make sure you deduct TDS while giving the prize from the pot to anyone, 30% tax will have to be paid by the winner this time. Thanks @Roysee777 for raining merits bro. We managed to outsource this responsibility to overseas contractor so we should be fine. I suppose fee should be similar to last one, right? $20 or 30$ bucks? 30 should be okay and i'll create IPL thread in last week of this month, till then we can discuss things here, if necessary.
I think we should stick to $20 just like last year primarily because this fee could attract more participants while $30 could scare away many potential participants. $20 seems like the optimal option overall. Just my 2 cents. I count hardly 8-9 guys who might be interested in the pool and 1-2 guys akhjob/vishnu are not even active nowadays. We have been trying for so long so far not many participants from the cricket community looked interested except 8-10 usual suspects. So i also agree with RapTarX on $30 fees. With that we can collect at least 250 bucks worth of pot. I don't have a problem with $30 or $20.
It would be better if Royse or JSRAW would create a poll with the fee option. We don't have a lot of buddies in cricket section sadly, I don’t know why people here don't like cricket betting much. Anyway, I think we at least need 10+ participants to have a nice competition.
I will try to contact with some of my clients but I don’t think anyone would be much interested because of the lack of participants. Last time, I tried to get one but no one was interested.
I guess here only Royse can create any poll, if that possible. Anyway we can also agree on fees here in discussion board. @ Little Mouse (you) @ RapTarX @JSRAW (me) are okay with $30 fees. |
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