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881  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Projected Minimum Cost per BTC over the next year on: September 27, 2014, 07:04:13 PM
I think FREE or Little electricity cost is part of the reason difficulty has not dropped.

In addition there are still money stuck in the development phase from the last major investment phase (late 2013 early 2014). 

I expect a major shakeout of manufacturers by the end of year. Wont be many makers and suppliers in 2015 because there wont be any profit in making and selling them.

882  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread on: September 27, 2014, 06:59:33 PM
Bitcoinx hasn't updated their formula in a long time. 

They still have difficulty at 19 Billion and btc price of $500
883  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread on: September 27, 2014, 01:52:56 PM
Thats not possible with 36Th and no electricity cost.
884  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Projected Minimum Cost per BTC over the next year on: September 27, 2014, 01:47:51 PM
While the ASM gen3 chips seem like a good deal, they are power hogs at 1.1 watts/gh

They will be outdated and unprofitable by November if the user has to pay anything over .10 electricity and other expenses.
885  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 26, 2014, 08:09:13 PM
EMA dropping to $457
886  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Projected Minimum Cost per BTC over the next year on: September 26, 2014, 08:05:29 PM
1000TH for 100k

$100/TH is hard to do

If they can do it then they are making a killing at sales:

KNC Neptune 3 = $2000 TH

Bitmain s4 = $750 TH



887  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Announcement: Bitmain launches AntMiner solution, 0.68 J/GH on chip on: September 25, 2014, 06:56:03 PM
The 1st Batch of AntMiner S4 is 1,450 USD per unit (excluding shipping), with dispatch estimated September 29th. Batch 1 will go on sale at 22:00pm Sept. 25th Beijing (UTC +8 Time Zone)

Very expensive!  (

So disappointing that they are also now charging shipping separate, I will stick with the S3's for now until the price becomes more reasonable.

ahhhh

Profits are very slim now

At least better than Neptune $2000 GH
888  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 24, 2014, 05:15:11 PM
My friend, who is not part of the BTC world, sent me a message half an hour ago: "PayPal supports BTC". Few seconds after that I realized that we will rally up from here, because this news got media attention, ordinary non-bitcoin people heard about it.
This makes sense as Paypal is basically a processor.

By supporting btc they are letting people use as a debit collateral or credit against their paypal accounts.  But they are still making fees by the actual paypal transactions like a regular cc.
889  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 24, 2014, 05:05:01 PM
Why do they always drop the hashrate and difficulty 2 days before the next jump..

Conspiricy thery
890  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Projected Minimum Cost per BTC over the next year on: September 24, 2014, 06:07:53 AM
So next September it will be 381 times harder to mine for BTC.   Unless the price rises to $181,000 to make it equal to mining today.  Something has to give.

why it will be harder to mine for BTC? you mean the price will be down and few people mine?

The difficulty level to mine seems to gets harder every 13 days
891  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: September 23, 2014, 05:04:24 AM
20btc back with the cloud conversion is better than 90% loss on Titan.  But i doublt knc would allow, because they have the cards in their hands. 

They might consider on a month or 2 after they mine some more, or when their mining farms become more obsolete as diff jumps
892  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 23, 2014, 04:27:26 AM


lmao
893  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: September 23, 2014, 04:23:27 AM
KNC Cloud is about 100% markup:  

Lets assume their machines are:       .7 watts efficient.      Electricity cost .10      Diff jumps 15%        BTC price $400-405

For customers:

This  isnt too bad considering ROI is only 20% under even, which no asic machine on the market can even come close to claim.  Basically customers are paying $250 for .5 btc

Should make customers (payout from KNC) .5 btc in those 6 months with no electricity cost which is about $200-205 now.

For KNC:

Eating the electricity they only mine about .2 btc ($80) but they also pocket your $250.  SO its about plus $130 after paying customer .5 btc ($200 value)


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894  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Announcement: Bitmain launches AntMiner solution, 0.68 J/GH on chip on: September 22, 2014, 07:16:38 PM
Arctic MX or Arctic Silver
895  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: HASHRA - LUNAR SERIES - ASIC SCRYPT MINERS on: September 22, 2014, 07:14:40 PM
and 36 Billion difficulty coming
896  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: September 22, 2014, 07:13:57 PM
Dumb asses, would have avoided the problem by adding 2 power ports tot he board instead of 1.


OR  maybe this was their strategy all along to delay the rest of the production line.
897  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 21, 2014, 04:13:11 PM
i'd like to remind everyone that if you buy bitcoin and it goes down on you, you can and should delaire capital loss.

today is a good day to buy.
 
Cool

You can only declare capital loss if you sold it.  If you sold it then it means you were scared about the price loss from when you bought it.

Assuming you sold it and it went down more, one could say they saved money by buying back in at a lower price.
898  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Projected Minimum Cost per BTC over the next year on: September 21, 2014, 02:06:58 PM
"We Are Fuc*ed"  I repeat We Are Fuc*ed"
899  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 20, 2014, 08:34:38 AM
Its on fire now, up 40 points
900  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 20, 2014, 07:26:33 AM
At $378 was $100 under daily EMA, relative bargian
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