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1041  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Announcement: Bitmain launches AntMiner solution, 0.68 J/GH on chip on: July 06, 2014, 04:26:20 PM
They can mine about .185 btc left with .08 cents electricity in China.

.08 btc with .16 electricity like most of USA.

.01 btc with .30 electricity like alot of Europe.
1042  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2014, 02:28:19 PM
If street prices are $1000 per TH now how much will these 650 TH machines sell for?

That would make it $650k.  Cheesy

Honestly.. $1000,- per TH? Seriously? LMFAO

Chris.  $1000 per TH is an optimistic number because this is what bitmain S3 will be next week. This is the cheapest price per TH right now.  Can you find cheaper?
1043  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2014, 01:30:16 PM
If street prices are $1000 per TH now how much will these 650 TH machines sell for?
1044  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Announcement: Bitmain launches AntMiner solution, 0.68 J/GH on chip on: July 05, 2014, 12:30:32 PM
It seems it would be easier to upgrade s2 units than s1.
1045  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: July 05, 2014, 12:24:32 PM
5200 rpm.  Damn
1046  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Setup & Troubleshoot] Bitmain AntMiner S1 180GH/S miner on: July 05, 2014, 06:48:24 AM
Sushi is back!
1047  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: July 05, 2014, 05:46:54 AM
http://www.quietpc.com/nf-a14-ippc-3000-pwm
1048  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2014, 05:17:02 AM
Looks like price needs to come down under $610 before it goes to 700

Uh why?

For me it was 620ish...mainly to do with the ebb flow of the market. It would appear that people are trying to accumulate more so than dump.

I think we'll see weekend buyers from those who want to beat the trend now that 620 ish has held well enough. However I've been bull sided as of late.

Because the EMA is $614, price rarely hits EMA exactly, it usually overshoots, somewhat either slightly or drastically best case scenario is slightly. 

The Dark candlesticks is not confiding either.
1049  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: July 05, 2014, 05:12:43 AM
A 140mm fan would need to spin higher than 2000 rpm.  There are not many out there.
1050  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2014, 03:46:10 AM
Looks like price needs to come down under $610 before it goes to 700
1051  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [In Stock]$1699 for 1T BTC miner,to be delivered in 24hours on: July 05, 2014, 03:43:51 AM
The miners are ready. Just not releasing to the public until that date. So they do have them in Stock now.

There is no other mining equipment even close to that even when it does become available next week. 

Power/gh/Price

ok I wanna see them ship them, alot of people have been let down with broken promises. 

They are not BFL or KNC.   I haven't seen anyone complain they didn't receive their orders within a week of the promised time.
1052  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 04, 2014, 11:25:06 PM
EMA $615

Price is dropping
1053  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Antminer S3 $468.20- Antminer S2 $1730.- // #1 Bitmain Distributor - 112bit.com on: July 04, 2014, 11:23:51 PM
s2 last chance before they are dissasembled for parts.
1054  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Projected Minimum Cost per BTC over the next year on: July 03, 2014, 07:17:48 AM
Thanks for putting this together. I'm confident that J/gh will decrease enough to mitigate this, but the possibility that all mining hardware producers fail at making a more efficient miner is highly improbable (especially because there are so many now) but not impossible!

More efficient miners can be made, but at what cost?

For example if it cost a manufacturer $700 to make a 1TH miner at .7watts/gh efficiency today

and it only mines 1 btc lifetime,

how many people would buy it over $840

assuming the manufacturer only wanted to make a 20% markup.

It already seems some farms are shutting down because the miners can not be bought at prices that can justify the cost of the machines versus the bitcoins they can mine in their lifetime, so they are buying coins instead or just stopping the mining and capital investment.

1055  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: July 03, 2014, 04:27:28 AM
Actually it currently takes 10 days with 3.3 TH/s to mine a bitcoin.

Can you imagine what its going to be like for the August/Sept SP30 customers ? Thats a few more diff changes down the road still ...

pretty much screwed like all the rest of the preorders to date...only one that worked great was avalon preorder...everyone thinking they will get that kind of success

I agree, Avalon first batch has been the only mining gear that has paid off way more than it cost. From here on in your lucky to break even at best. Unless someone comes up with a way to produce 1ph for around $10,000.
Not true... Many of us mined around 50 coin per Jupiter... just so you know....
with all the problems I had with Jupiters, it was worth every red cent imho.

... and Yifu Guo was no angel. There were a lucky few who got Avalons early, but make no mistake,
Avalon is just as guilty(or more) when it comes to orders which were delivered late.

http://www.coindesk.com/avalon-asic-customer-bitcoin-refunds-delivery-delays/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=294234.0   Avalon chips refund not received - Lawsuit action proposal

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1jwraw/1400000000_in_avalon_chips_missing_and_you/  "Held in customs"  yeah, right.

Whatever gave you the idea Avalon was so "Golden"?  and after a good shafting from Avalon, I bought from BFL.
Jupiter made up for all that, and more.

...but I agree.... Neptune, and every other miner screwed from here on out.... sad

 

There was alot of evidence of Avalon secretly mining weeks/months before delivery.
1056  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: July 03, 2014, 03:10:30 AM
Actually it currently takes 10 days with 3.3 TH/s to mine a bitcoin.

Can you imagine what its going to be like for the August/Sept SP30 customers ? Thats a few more diff changes down the road still ...

ROI  3-4 BTC
1057  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 02, 2014, 10:50:47 PM
lmao
1058  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [In Stock]$1699 for 1T BTC miner,to be delivered in 24hours on: July 02, 2014, 09:53:09 PM
The miners are ready. Just not releasing to the public until that date. So they do have them in Stock now.

There is no other mining equipment even close to that even when it does become available next week. 

Power/gh/Price
1059  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: July 02, 2014, 06:11:38 AM
Just wondering if Batch 1 or 2 have started receiving their Neptunes yet.
No and no more Neptunes shipping !



From KNC last news (link) :
Quote
Each and every production-ready Neptune processor we’ve been able to produce has been shipped out to customers
[...]
the demand for Neptunes has been bigger than the successful yield of 20nm wafers has been able to satisfy.

That means they don't have any 20nm chips !
That means no more Neptunes will ship !
It's going to take weeks before receiving new 20nm chips !

More BS from KNC.  They only tell you what they want you to HEAR.
1060  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 02, 2014, 12:53:58 AM
and possible the low liquidity.  If someone puts a market order to sell 5000 coins and there are no buyers price drops until someone steps up to buy that quantity.

How many people on this whole board has even put a limit order to buy even 10 btc?
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