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701  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin supersedes Cash in the near future? on: August 19, 2017, 12:45:43 PM
As of July 2013, currency in circulation—that is, U.S. coins and paper currency in the hands of the public—totaled about $1.2 trillion dollars.

The amount of cash in circulation has risen rapidly in recent decades and much of the increase has been caused by demand from abroad.

I'll challenge that. Over the recent decades we've seen the widespread adoption of credit and debit cards and in the last ten years that's turned to online payments. The volume of cash, i.e., paper money, used in the last decades has declined significantly.

EDIT: I stand corrected. Just found this article from the New Yorker which claims the amount of US paper currency in existence has increased. This is must be an indicator of how much the money supply has increased over the same time period...because the developed world has certainly shifted to a more electronic payment system.

Not only has the supply of actual Fiat increased, the amount of "e dollars" or fractionally reserved value has increased as well. I live out in the sticks, so I still encounter people using a majority of cash. A lot of folks don't have access to a bank; and given the low wealth a large number of folks simply can no longer have a bank account (checksys blacklist). It's so bad they sometimes won't give you an option the make a card transaction under x, for example I must spend at least 5 dollars to make any purchase at my nearest tobacco shop. And the icing on the cake is that one out of three businesses simply don't accept cards, only cash.

Yezzir, cash is still King, dammit.
702  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: referendum from all bitcoin hodlers on: August 19, 2017, 12:36:17 PM
neither of these.
i am not going to say no to 2 MB hard fork but i won't accept it either because it is too soon.
SegWit is a capacity increase already and we need to activate it first, then let it be around for a while and work to see how it is and then if the hard fork was really needed we can have a good plan, test things properly, add a replay protection and then go for it.

right now it seems like a half assed rushed thing which many are against it.

Amen. This has become a pissing contest at this point, especially given the antics that went on yesterday. I no longer feel anyone has a best interest for the community; everyone honestly seems to be furthering their agenda/ stash of coins. We need to scale, yes, but agree all this is too fast too soon. Don't know why everything has to happen right now; we aren't even addressing how the fiat markets and Wall Street factor into bitcoin price (this really, really isn't a good time). A perfect storm is looming; and I have no idea what is going to happen here.
703  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Theory - BitcoinCash @ $500 maintained by bots to keep the mining profitability on: August 19, 2017, 04:44:37 AM
It was the Korean market and the miners who were responsible for the large move last night. Whether or not they were bots, I don't know but I can almost guarantee that it will drop either tonight or tomorrow when the Koreans wake up and see the current price.

ill accept this, decent evaluation.

the market cap is entirely too small.  hence, its easy to manipulate this market. there is a reason why you dont see 'pump groups' for major currency pairs or major securities. you wouldnt get too far, LOL, it takes massive amounts of capital to move the market even one inch, if a market is truly legitimate. so, your theory is possible, and pretty valid imo. Juhan has a huge incentive to see BCC go far; and his miners will seek the most profitable coin, because this has always been about money Wink i dont like this for the ecosystem, because I dont like to see our resources divided behind our ideological split. like our country, things dont work well divided. but meh.

like the previous poster stated, these are indeed interesting times.  Wink
704  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nazi's infesting America on: August 19, 2017, 02:39:11 AM
Please don't twist the facts. Trump didn't endorsed the Nazis. That's a complete lie. He blamed both the neo-Nazis and the Antifa for the violence. And he condemned the murder of Heather Heyer in the strongest language possible.

Funny, I haven't seen a single video of Antifa being violent

I did see a video of a car running over 20 people, driven by a Nazi

I did see a video of a black man being beat unconscious by Nazis with clubs

I did see a video of Nazis rushing Antifa and punching them in the face (one Nazi even punched a GIRL in the FACE!)

There was not violence on "both sides"... If you claim there was violence, and have zero evidence, you are the one who is lying




Are you for real?

Nearly any media you watch on Charlottesville on YouTube make a antifa look like the aggressor. You have been suckered in by mainstream media using one little clip of a guy and a girl fighting.

So watch this at 6.45 and tell me those are peaceful protestors. Young people beating an old guy.



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_TWCEV5U09c



lets wrap you up for the night too, for the sake of completeness.

ok, antifa is violent. fuck them, they are shits. they sling poo like monkeys, LOL.

What does that change about the situation? a motherfucker died, broseph. and antifa wasnt driving the car that killed them. a line was crossed, the " peaceful and lawful protesters" you defend crossed it. ill give you a task, find me an article where someone died at the Charlotteville rally at the hands of a BLM, antifa, or even a mofo that voted for Hillary.

Yeah.

So.

behind ideology. are we really killing people for their beliefs? is that what the fuck we are doing now in the age of Trump?

i agree with him. this is indeed bigly.

Who is next, tonight?
705  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nazi's infesting America on: August 19, 2017, 02:29:53 AM
AntiFa, huh

You know quite well black lives matter is also mixed in with that group and causing trouble ..

Same as when black lives matter do marches people do shady things to cause trouble between groups..

Charlottesville protests -- raw footage of extremely tense stand-off ...
Video for Charlottesville protests -- raw footage of extremely tense stand-off▶ 16:27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8WuJ0BK8SA
6 days ago - Uploaded by Ace Loew

Do you or do you not see BLACK PEOPLE mixed with AntiFa? Wink..
You know shouting at the white nazi dudes ..

Black people mixed in with AntiFa go to the rallies and cause trouble could be paid to do this by
WELL YOU OF ALL PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW Wink..

And why black lives matter what does it all stem from because the whites used you as slaves Wink..

 slavery. Black people aren't bitching about slavery,<< BLACK LIVES MATTER?

HA HA HA look at the stupid people SQUABBLING while i rob your TAXES.. Wink

HA HA HA look at the stupid people SQUABBLING i can bet on the STOCKS Wink..

ALL ABOUT THE MONEY..EVERYTHING..



nevermind, this isnt that hard to refute. there are black nazis. no shit. that is, people are crazy, lmao.
so, yeah.
and yes, we are all getting fucked, i have said this before.

again man, where did you see blm with with anti slavery protests, specifically?  its 2017; fuck a slave master, im afraid of the cops bro.
you have the whole interwebz, take some time (you will need it, i just checked for you)

my meta from all that is that you have conflated race with the human condition. thats a mistake, i hope you correct that before you die/have kids. please do not pass your ideologies to your children, i implore you.

an aside, you seem triggered man. are you alright? you usually dont multi post unless someone pisses you off, i didnt mean for that. we can discontinue this line of rhetoric if it is uncomfortable to you, I have no wish to cause you distress; I only wish to point out the flaws in your ideology to the board. i never attack the man, i attack the ideas. people heal. but you can kill an ideology with rhetoric, at least until someone breathes life back into it with more rhetoric (im just talkin about Trump).

your ideas are poison, man. please heal. and send me that addy so you can buy a beer/blunt and release that stress. i dont like you like this, brother.
706  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nazi's infesting America on: August 19, 2017, 02:20:24 AM

Ouch bro, that hurt. Truth does hurt  Wink..

Africa was the start of man so after many thousands of years you think Africa with all it's minerals
and the fact many blacks are strong men you think they be all alright..NOW WHY?..

Because your fucking animals to each other just the same as white people..

All for the money AFRICA SOLD IT'S SELF to the white man..

African village would have slaves from the next village a white man would say i have guns pots and pans do you want to trade your IVORY GOLD for some guns and knives ..

Then the black village king would say i have some of these slaves they will do what you want
especially the women you can fuck them all night long good for BANGY BANGY ..

So this white guy miles from home would think ok throw a few of those black slaves in too..

Then before you know it       they worked in the fields and was servants plus fuck slaves for the white dudes..

And this practise as been going on since man began no matter the colour ..

Chinese was slaves for the Americans CHINA MAN JOE..
Irish was slaves for the AMERICANS
Blacks pow wow Indians

The poor white people was slaves and still are to this day..
Rich British would go to the north of the country and use the poor as servants and slaves..

Slaves free work free fucks free beaten's ..A SLAVE..

You do get many many black people who think that being black you cannot be RACIEST ..
You know it and i know it Wink..

Now with all the rap stars singers sports stars who are black you think they set up companies for
the young black kids where they grew up..

A white guy makes money sets up a company and employs whites only..
Same with the jews muslims chatholics they employ the top people from the own culture..

Lets face it the TRUTH HURTS..

How do you think the jews are up at the top?..
Because they employ jews mostly if a jew owns the company..

We have footballers whop are mostly from the poor ..

Like the NEVIL BROTHERS from MAN UTD football club..

You want to see what they do for the community they come from because they was poor..
Football clubs for the kids jobs all sorts they are trying to do for the people they lived around growing up..

The more you rich black sports stars singers rappers movie stars people make companies the more blacks you can employ..

Africa is a dump because you blacks make it a fucking dump..

It's your African leaders and so many of them all ripping the poor black people off..


yeeep, humans are shits. they come on all flavors, show me a culture where any of the things you described hasnt occured, I will wait till I die, so dont bother Wink

actually, this proves my point, one second:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_China
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_medieval_Europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_India
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Australia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa


fuck it, lets just do this to save time:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery

hilariously, when I typed in slavery in Europe to add the link, this is what popped up. Fucking hilarious, I tell you.

we will ignore colonialism because I dont have time tonight, I need to grade a signature campaign.

but anyway, you were saying?

edit: you posted the same shit man. why dont you understand this shit, LOL? im not disagreeing with you. YOU think blacks are butthurt about this shit, as a black person Im clearly telling you this isnt the case but you arent trying to hear me, you are pissed right now.

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muhammad ali never done nothing for his community GO AND ASK the people who lived in his area.. he done NOTHING..

Muhammad Ali's only natural son hadn't spoken to his father for two ...
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Muhammad-Ali-s-natural-son-hadn-t-spoken-father-two-YEAR...
4 Jun 2016 - Muhammad Ali was alienated from his only natural son, Muhammad Ali Jr (pictured) ... then on his 73rd birthday, I sung happy birthday to him, and I heard nothing .... I think Lonnie is evil and I believe she will cut me out of the Will. ..... on girls' night out... hours after ex Alex Mytton 'gets flirty with former flame.

LIKE I SAID  black man with money will only look after himself.^^^^^^^^^..



educate yourself:
https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/muhammad-ali

theres like, 20 charities here. and hilariously you are right. they dont have shit to do with black people, but he did seem to care about people, generally. good man Smiley
a sampling, so we can see how these dont really help us black folk (that bastard!)


Ali Care Program
Andrea Bocelli Foundation
Athletes For Hope
BeatBullying
Buoniconti Fund To Cure Paralysis
Celebrity Fight Night Foundation
HELP USA
Human Rights Action Center
Jeff Gordon Children's Foundation
Keep Memory Alive
Michael J. Fox Foundation
Muhammad Ali Center
Muhammad Ali Parkinson Center
Parkinson Society Maritime Region
Project A.L.S.
Special Olympics
The HollyRod Foundation
The Miami Project
UNICEF
Watering Seeds Organization

maybe if they were watermelon seeds, id accept your point.  Wink

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Not all by the way greenbits i bet your a good person?..
Lends 20 dollars then..

if you truly need this, send me an addy in this thread, i will send you a txid. you really do matter to me man, all of yall do, but I cant pay everyone. buy a beer and drink it for me, and think about me when you do. I like beer just like you, and Im more like you than you think man  Grin

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I am just pointing out that in the 21st century a black american as the same chance at life as a white dude..
How many dozy white dudes can play basketball american football track sports ..

Man no wonder the blackmen don't want to work because you can become a singer a sports star..

No i am black and i will not do home work i will do sports or rap..

I think basketball raciest to many black people..
Like hollywood to many white people..

Do you see my point ..

Please separate the United States mainstream stereotype of Blacks, from actually black people. Im pretty sure all of you dont drink tea, despite culture Smiley

No. There are like, 50 black people total in Hollywood LOL. White people dont really buy into black produced media, except Tyler Perry (who is the devil, LOL) Music, Im sorry that white people like rap. And Im also sorry that we excel at sports, get mad at recruiters. plenty of white cats with hella game, i must admit. Also, we have had no opportunity to accumulate generational wealth. generation wealth is everything; im working on it.

you wont go far waiting to make it big in sports or media; while it is overly represented by minorities(sports, music), this percentage of the population (less than .001 percent) is truly insignificant. seriously, how many blacks do you think get a contract? Grin hell, people period? im still waiting for mine, dammit, ive been tricked!

most black people have jobs, man. like most americans, we are american LOL. how do you think we can afford all this useless, consumerist shit? food stamps dont buy rims and jordans, LOL. we are all slaves to the same system. why do you think the color of a man’s skin determines his ethical outlook? who taught you this, LOL, i konow your parents didnt. Do not forget your Father's face. Should I reduce your race to its lowest common denominator? I wont, because thats pretty foolish. every man is the product of his own works. what a man says and does is his measure


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So i say shut the fuck up it's the 21st century and if you live in the west you have the same chance as everyone else..

Well if your rich no matter the colour you got a foot up on the ladder so thank your lucky stars..

White lives matter PUKE
black lives matter PUKE

ALL ABOUT THE MONEY..EVERYTHING..



if you are poor, thats not the case bro. i read your posts, i know you know what i mean. and literally, this is what white nationalist are saying, they feel that they dont have the same chance as minorities, because of affirmative action and whatnot. No, America is not the land of equal opportunity, for whites or blacks. money matters here, just like everywhere.

im trying to say the same shit, man. people fucking suck. its not racial. its people chasing mammon (thats a Bible thing; I know you dont really fuck with that right there Cheesy)

but do send that addy, I prefer eth or doge (low fees). fuuuck btc, fees are assholes, like Nazis.

i still fucks with you, though  Wink

PS: you have responded while i was typing, give me some time to respond again, seriously have some shit to do before I lay down for the night.


707  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nazi's infesting America on: August 18, 2017, 11:08:41 PM


But you and i know a black man with money will only look after himself..


Ouch bro, that hurt.  Cry I invited you to my house to chill and eat, I even want you to sit with me in the afterlife.

Meh, we are all human. You can still come, I still love you  Cheesy
708  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nazi's infesting America on: August 18, 2017, 10:51:42 PM
All this black and white arguing is pathetic ..

Blacks feel so hard done by as if they cannot be raciest..
Take a look at AFRICA always killed each others villages ..

Ireland was white slaves just like black slaves..

The Romans come the Britain and used us as slaves and killed us if we never done what they said..

Slavery as been going on in all colours ..

SO BLACK PEOPLE GET OVER IT Wink..

You seem to think we don't get no chance in AMERICA..

Point 1 many rappers singers sports stars who are black..
If they use their money to make companies they can employ blacks..

But you and i know a black man with money will only look after himself..

No go and look at all the AFRICAN LEADERS all on the take robbing their own people like no tomorrow ..

Mugabe Zuma  need i say anymore..

So in the 21st century if your black or white and you complain over who is getting what
TAKE A LOOK AT THE POW WOWS..

The native indians are thinking what a gang of cheeky fuckers you all are..

Black and white are NAZI..

Blacks are just as RACIEST as white people ..

So why does black people hold babies over a fire when they attack another village in the 21st century.. Wink..

I don't think you would see any white dude from the uk hold a baby over a fire if in war..

We would feel sick doing something so extreme ..

So who is the savages in all this?..WHITE and BLACKS are as bad as each other both as raciest as each other FACT..

Now some WHITE and BLACKS hate black lives matter and white lives matter ..

Both are RACIEST GROUPS..My colour crew or die..

When white black brown yellow all own AMERICA..

Although you don't it belongs to the POW WOWS..
All the colours of the RAINBOW stole it from them..

So now all the colours of the rainbow must live together and help the native pow wows to survive and then you can all be at peace..


But i thinks no one likes peace because they brought ISLAMIC RELIGIOUS NUTTERS to all our nations..

NO PEACE NOW NOT EVER..
We will never ever have peace anymore Angry..


Black people know good and damned well we arent about to get shit from white people concerning slavery. Black people aren't bitching about slavery, bo (thats a rural term of endearment, kinda like bruv over there). We are bitching about the current state of racism, both emergent and the legislative racism we pay taxes for. Just like you guys hate feeding black folks with food stamps, we detest paying police to kill us. Makes sense, no?

What the fuck good is it to complain to folks that dont care? Wink Despite the popular opinion, we arent stupid. This is why I dont agree with BLM personally; no problem with the cause but its a waste of time. obviously no one cares, at least the folks that should hear the message dont. better to spend that energy lobbying, or courting votes door to door. i believe in being efficient Wink


I have the feeling Native Americans (because POW WOW, while hilarious, is racist as fuck) dont have that much beef with other minorities. I will ask one, I live in a town that is 1/3 Lumbee Indians, 1/3 black, and 1/3 white. In fact, black slaves were in the same boat as Native Americans in most places; we didnt have any fucking rights during this time period, we didnt do shit to anybody  Cheesy Cheesy we couldnt do shit legislatively, we werent even a whole person, LOLOL.


Some perspective:

http://www.ncpedia.org/history/20th-Century/lumbee-face-klan

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Although the Klan had typically targeted African Americans, in early 1958 a group led by James W. "Catfish" Cole of South Carolina began harassing the Lumbees. One of the crosses burned on the night of January 13 was on the lawn of a Lumbee family that had recently moved into a predominantly white neighborhood, while the other was intended to intimidate a Lumbee woman who was said to have been dating a white man. Not content to leave it at this, the Klan planned a rally in Robeson County to be held just a few days later.

The rally was scheduled for the night of January 18, 1958, in a field near Maxton, N.C. The stated purpose of the gathering was, in the words of Catfish Cole, "to put the Indians in their place, to end race mixing." The time and location of the rally was not kept secret, and word spread quickly among the local Lumbee population.

Reports vary about the number of people gathered on that cold night, but there were thought to have been around a hundred Klan members. They brought a large banner emblazoned with "KKK" and a portable generator, which powered a public address system and a single bare light bulb. When the meeting began, the arc of the dim light didn't spread far enough for the Klansmen to see that they were surrounded by as many as a thousand Lumbees. Several young tribe members, some of whom were armed, closed on the Klan meeting and tried to take down the light bulb. The groups fought, and a shotgun blast shattered the light. In the sudden darkness, the Lumbees descended upon the field, yelling and firing guns into the air, scattering the overmatched Klansmen. Some left under police protection while others, including Catfish Cole, simply took to the woods.

News photographers already on the scene captured the celebration. Images of triumphant Lumbees holding up the abandoned KKK banner were published in newspapers and magazines throughout the world. Simeon Oxendine, a popular World War II veteran, appeared in Life Magazine, smiling and wrapped in the banner. The rout of the Klan galvanized the Lumbee community. The Ku Klux Klan was active in North Carolina into the 1960s, but they never held another public meeting in Robeson County.

This is just one group, so I wont say this is a trend, but, suffice it to say the Natives and Blacks dont have any beef between each other.

SO i guess these guys were the original AntiFa, huh?  Cheesy Grin Wink

KKK has been taking loses for a minute, it seems. If only they had a vehicle...


PS I live next literal door to an Oxendine. Great folks, salt of the earth and an exemplary Christian (boooooo!). The Locklear and Chavis clans/bloodline, along with the Oxendines, still are present in the area, you can talk to folks that attended this rally, on both sides.

Both sides, hehe. I wonder what Trump would have said about this?
709  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: August 18, 2017, 10:30:27 PM
Wtf why did he kick out bannon  Huh


Worth the read if you genuinely want the start of an explanation. The "internet" says he was out 2 weeks ago? Strange how this wasn't leaked if true.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/08/18/steve-bannon-out-at-white-house/


Also this is the first week with zero Russia madness in the news. Looks like the DNC leak was an inside job more and more. If proven true then bernie was cheated out and all the push for him to keep his mouth shut also was true.


Oh, they totally fucked over Bernie. We all read the same emails, left, right and moderate. there was plain collusion to subvert support for Mr. Sanders, this is not a debatable point, LOL.

Oh they are still talking about Russia. Its some pretty scandalous shit, tbh, but you would need to look at fringe leftist news. let me link you to those "lunatics" (that was plain sarcasm)

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/longtime-trump-business-partner-told-family-he-knows-he-and-potus-are-going-to-prison-report/

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Felix Sater, one of Donald Trump’s shadiest former business partners, is reportedly preparing for prison time — and he says the president will be joining him behind bars.

Sources told The Spectator‘s Paul Wood that Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s deep dive into Trump’s business practices may be yielding results.

Trump recently made remarks that could point to a money laundering scheme, Wood reported.

“I mean, it’s possible there’s a condo or something, so, you know, I sell a lot of condo units, and somebody from Russia buys a condo, who knows?” the president said.

Sater, who has a long history of legal troubles and is cooperating with law enforcement, was one of the major players responsible for selling Trump’s condos to the Russians.

And according to Wood’s sources, Sater may have already flipped and given prosecutors the evidence they need to make a case against Trump.

For several weeks there have been rumours that Sater is ready to rat again, agreeing to help Mueller. ‘He has told family and friends he knows he and POTUS are going to prison,’ someone talking to Mueller’s investigators informed me.
Sater hinted in an interview earlier this month that he may be cooperating with both Mueller’s investigation and congressional probes of Trump.

“In about the next 30 to 35 days, I will be the most colourful character you have ever talked about,” Sater told New York Magazine. “Unfortunately, I can’t talk about it now, before it happens. And believe me, it ain’t anything as small as whether or not they’re gonna call me to the Senate committee.”

Its kinda obvious at this point Trump is/was a money laundering front for Russian oligarchs; you buy expensive real estate, sell cheap back to Trump, and your money is legal. This is to subvert the Magnitsky Act; small wonder why Don Jr was discussing the very same act with known Russian operatives. You have to be blind not to see this at this point; there are even anomalous real estates deals (buys property for 10 mil, holds for a year or two, sells back to Trump for 5 mil) on the public record; this isnt debatable at this point as well. Since this is known, and Mueller is clearly pursuing this angle, it will be up to Trumps lawyers to paint this in a better light. Kusher will be complicit as well; all the real estate dudes that hang with Trump will be complicit.

If they convict Trump, they will say "treason". If they find out that he is being blackmailed or coerced, which also seems obvious to me, they will say "high treason". He has so much general dislike that at this point, he may see jail. Deep State! (that was also plain sarcasm, but he will most likely be seeing jail. the deep state isnt real dammit, as least as Breitart/Infowars tells it)

Just let this train wreck, and get off while you can. folks, no one helps the guys that could have helped himself.

But im just a talking head on a forum. Mueller will prove me right, in time.

Tick.

Tock.
710  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nazi's infesting America on: August 18, 2017, 10:05:30 PM
Ohh left-wing wimps again going to drag Trump's name into the affair

he's the goddamned POTUS, man. Who the fuck is running this shit, if not him?

oh, you are right. no one has been running this thing, and we are careening off of a fucking cliff.

my bad, carry on.
711  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: irs and coinbase on: August 18, 2017, 09:53:19 PM
It's total BS anyways. The IRS has no right to any of it until the convert to fiat. It's out of the purview of the state until it's fiat so they are not providing any facilitation of it's use that isn't already taxed.

I don't want to get into an argument about the moral aspects. I'm quite opposed to the government on almost all levels. But the legal issue here is that the IRS doesn't have a right to go on a fishing expedition. The request was overly broad. With a narrower, arguably more reasonable description of a class which they are seeking transaction history for, they might succeed. Or in case of specific individuals they are looking into.

Coinbase is extremely compliance-oriented; one of their top executives recently said their goal was to be the most compliant exchange in the space. So Coinbase users should be practical and assume that Coinbase won't protect them if push comes to shove.

Amen. I dont know if they assumed CB would instantly cave, given the brevity of the initial request. Essentially, they were dumb for not defining the class better in the first place, its like they thought CB doesnt have lawyers. But, eventually they WILL give up the info, or they will cease to exist as they operate within the United States. You can play the game, but you will never win, so to speak, against a gov. Coinbase juuust had another 100 million dollar round of funding, trust and believe they will comply before they fuck that up for themselves.

Bitcoin. Its decentralized for a reason, dammit.
712  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What will be the last "white" ethno state? on: August 18, 2017, 09:19:04 PM


There is a girl on youtube channel called red ice i think, who explains that she feel unconfrotable living in a former white ethno state were she became a minority.


Totally agree. Its hard being a minority  Wink

Ya'll should listen.
713  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nazi's infesting America on: August 18, 2017, 08:56:31 PM
I also have an advice for the blacks, when you all were being shot by the Police how many white people came to protest with you, They should lay low and mind their own business. When a black President didnt care about you and betrayed you, we didn't see you all protesting.

WE appreciate that broseph, we Blacks need all the help we can get Smiley

Let me return some advice:

 I also have an advice for the poor and rural whites, when you get shot by the Police for heroin, how many people period came to protest with you, They should lay low and mind their own business. When your leader didnt care about you and betrayed you, you cheered him on and encouraged him to continue.


Im about to pop open a 6 pack of babies. Soros is doing karaoke, its great, and Hillary is talking about a wet t shirt contest. We talked her out of it, ugggh.

oh, Bannon's thoughts on white supremacy:

http://prospect.org/article/steve-bannon-unrepentant

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I asked Bannon about the connection between his program of economic nationalism and the ugly white nationalism epitomized by the racist violence in Charlottesville and Trump’s reluctance to condemn it. Bannon, after all, was the architect of the strategy of using Breitbart to heat up white nationalism and then rely on the radical right as Trump’s base.

He dismissed the far right as irrelevant and sidestepped his own role in cultivating it: “Ethno-nationalism—it's losers. It's a fringe element. I think the media plays it up too much, and we gotta help crush it, you know, uh, help crush it more.”

“These guys are a collection of clowns,” he added.

From his lips to Trump’s ear.

“The Democrats,” he said, “the longer they talk about identity politics, I got ’em. I want them to talk about racism every day. If the left is focused on race and identity, and we go with economic nationalism, we can crush the Democrats.”

You guys were lied to, in order to further a political agenda. Dont feel bad, it has happened to all of us. Do feel bad, though, because we told you so, and it was blatantly fucking obvious.

Let me quote the Master one mo time:

“Ethno-nationalism—it's losers. It's a fringe element. I think the media plays it up too much, and we gotta help crush it, you know, uh, help crush it more.”

“These guys are a collection of clowns,”


Are you gonna let that disheveled bastard talk about ya'll like that? Have some nuts, white nationalist bros. Undecided

but this is all fake news, of course. it wasn't on Breitbart, so it probably didnt happen.



714  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nazi's infesting America on: August 18, 2017, 07:45:08 PM

....When Bannon goes, which is soon, the shit will hit the fan, so to speak.



Thats hilarious. I wrote that like, an hour or so before they canned his ass.

Like I said, its a party over here.
715  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Are there any cryptocurrency WhatsApp chat group?? on: August 18, 2017, 03:22:43 PM
Thanks guys..

Yes I do have telegram too but I am unable to find any groups.. how to find telegram groups?? I don't care if it's country specific unless it's other than English chat group.

Let me assist you:

https://t.me/icocountdown personal fav

01. @TheCoinFarm/@CoinFarm 8825
02. @WhaleClubBTC 6652
03. @GettCoinToday 6051 (Russian)
04. @DigiByteCoin 5292
05. @WhalePoolBTC 4790
06. @Litecoin 4522
07. @WavesCommunity 4122
08. @CivicPlatform 3844
09. @Ripple 3475q
10. @bitJob (shameless plug for my project. If you appreciate the list, join our group Wink )

You're welcome Wink
716  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nazi's infesting America on: August 18, 2017, 02:00:25 PM
Another winging ethic minority.

Go fuck yourself Moloch, "white guilt" has run its course and now its time for the push back.



You created a new account just so I wouldn't know who is telling me to fuck off... fucking hilarious

They love to do this silly shit, as though we can't all clearly see the post count and rank. Go look at that "hot topic" sjw thread that pops up. There are literally 10+ accounts made about 5 minutes from each other, with roughly the same post count Wink Spewing some Breitbart comments section bullshit.

Folks, if your argument is so weak that you need fake consensus to support it, well then get that weak shit out of here Grin

*Glares at current WH*

edit: thank you alt right. Thank you, dammit, THANK YOU.

Sit down and let me rap to you.

You accomplished in a day what the evil axis of leftist has been trying to accomplish for years, showing the idiocy and radicalization of your ideology. Now, instead of anyone taking your ideological school seriously, you have been branded a fool in the court of public opinion, global public opinion. You made bed mates with the wrong ones; and now you have been identified/conflated with your lowest common denominator. You have managed to put yourselves lower than "immigrant rapists" and "Islamic terrorists" in the greater public's eyes; YOU HAVE MADE YOURSELVES A PUBLIC ENEMY. Be proud, good Sirs. History will be most unkind to your legacies. Your cause, essentially, has died. Notice the collapse of all of Trump's castle; the folks on this board may be some of the few apologist still left in the room. GOP has jumped ship. CEOs as well. When Bannon goes, which is soon, the shit will hit the fan, so to speak.

Maybe y'all should like, take up arms and violently revolt? I would sooo tune in for that, for the 2 days it would persist. Fuck the old Confederacy, make some new shit and get out there!! Boots on the ground!


Soros and Hillary just gave me a small child as a prize for my good work. It's a celebration over here Bros!

And let me make one thing clear. Notice I said alt right, which is a specific ideological school. I would never accused every conservative of being the same, because how fucking stupid would it be to assign a single ideology to a whole group? Only a fool would do that.

*glares at fools*

The confetti is made of emails.
717  Economy / Economics / Re: Which country would be the first to eliminate fiat and convert to crypto fully? on: August 18, 2017, 06:09:06 AM
It's possible, but only an extremely economically depressed country would bother. Why? Cryptos, at least as we know them, can aid and abet capital flight, which is the bane of all goes. What you don't want is a way for someone to quickly, cheaply and anonymously move value outside of your country. If a gov were to issue a coin, it would look pretty much like the ACH system in the US, or Ripple for a direct Crypto comparison. Transactions would have to be reversible; everyone would be identified, and fees would go to the central authority as there is no need for decentralized consensus.

We will be using cryptos mainstream, soon. They just need to make it so seamless that it is indistinguishable from using electronic cash, that is a debit card. This is already the case honestly; I only keep Crypto, and with my Shift card no one knows that I am spending coin when I swipe at a point of sale.
718  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Hydra and Satoshi Nakamoto on: August 18, 2017, 05:59:20 AM
This is an interesting article discussing many points related to the ascent and history of money and how money became synonymous with power and control down through the ages and much more today as we now modern and more sophisticated. This power and control exercised by the government as handed through the ages can be the number reason why Satoshi Nakamoto decided to left Bitcoin otherwise he would be a subject to possible harassment and many forms of shenanigans from the authorities.

Enjoy reading. And please share your ideas and opinions on this topic here.

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The Hydra. In decentralized systems, there is no head of the snake. Decentralized systems are a hydra. Cut off one head and two more pop-in to take its place.

“Governments are good at cutting off the heads of centrally controlled networks like Napster, but pure P2P networks like Gnutella and Tor seem to be holding their own.” And the first decentralized system of money was born: Bitcoin.

It was explicitly designed to resist coercion and control by centralized powers. Satoshi wisely remained anonymous for that very reason. He knew they would come after him because he was the symbolic head of Bitcoin.

That’s what’s happened every time someone has come forward claiming to be Satoshi or when someone has been “outed” by the news media as Bitcoin’s mysterious creator. When fake Satoshi Craig Wright came out, Australian authorities immediately raided his house. The official reason is always spurious.

The real reason is to cut off the head of the snake. As Bitcoin rises in value, the hunt for Satoshi will only intensify. He controls at least a million coins that have never moved from his original wallets. If VC Chris Dixon is right and Bitcoin rocket to $100,000 a coin, those million coins will shoot up to $100 billion. If it goes even higher, say a $1 million a coin, that would make him the world’s first trillionaire. And that will only bring the hammer down harder and faster on him. You can be 100% sure that black ops units would be gunning for him around the clock.


Read more about this here.

Agree and disagree. Article aside, it is clear to me that the government (the US, for me) simply doesn't care enough about bitcoin to act in a serious way. Why? It's too easy to 51% attack as a state actor. Most govs have billions of dollars at their disposal. If any government cared enough to subvert bitcoin, they would contract out some epic tech firm to make a bitcoin miner 2.0, or a million kajillion standard miners. They would be able to control the network quite easily at that point; it would take the efforts of another state actor to stop something so monolithic. *cough* China *cough*. Much easier to simply make a new coin; I would jump ship my damned self if a major gov distributed a Crypto backed by a nation. People begrudgingly trust BTC, but folks have been trusting USD for time immemorial.

Ironic. Smiley

PS: China is sooo subsidizing Bitmain. Don't tell anyone Wink
719  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Greatest Bitcoin Invention Ever! on: August 18, 2017, 04:35:01 AM
then your 2 cent turn into 5 cent because min 10k satoshi transaction fee Smiley


LOL right?! and i would be remiss to pay someone in stock; if bitcoin hits 10k that 5 cents turns to 10 cents. personally, im not trying to give anyone a damned bit of my bitcoin, please have some inflationary USD  Grin

Great idea, but I think the majority of youtube posters thrive on the comments section being free. i will never pay to comment; someone could talk shit about my mom and I would stare at the video and be like "man, thats cold, but they arent getting my btc. mom will be alright". I would, however, pay 2 cent for youtube not to loudly advertise shit at me that I will never buy (I have a phone, youtube/google. im not going to buy another one until this one breaks. back off, mang)

This is essentially reverse Steemit. You have something here, incentivize people to post somehow (maybe the most prolific/upvoted posters get a daily/weekly leaderboard prize?)
720  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Questions about ICO participation as a United States citizen on: August 18, 2017, 03:44:41 AM
As far as I know, the SEC hasn't banned the participation of US citizens in the ICOs outright. They have just expressed "concern" over the rising number of ICOs and the shady people behind them. So unless the ICO explicitly bans US passport holders in its terms and conditions, you can participate in them. The federal income tax will be 39.6%, if your annual income is more than $418,401.

So there is really no penalty to be imposed by the government to someone who covertly joined an ICO even if the company doing the offer is clearly not accepting US citizens. Anyway, in this case, it is not anymore the fault of the ICO issuer but of the ICO buyer but they have to declare it once there is already a gain out of the transaction and must pay the right rate of tax. That announcement from SEC on ICO is just an introduction of the many possibilities in the future and definitely it was not detailed.

I wouldnt paint this so cut and dry. I will agree that they will not retroactively enforce this; that is making a list of participants and going after them (would be really difficult, to be honest). But you are running afoul of some pre established law by participating in these as a guidance has been issued. Since you aren't the one holding the money; they would be more likely to go after the ICO (this is about money, after all). Besides willfully purchasing an illegal, unregulated security, most of us are not accredited investors, which requires an AMAZING amount of income or wealth to qualify for. Only accredited investors would be allowed by the SEC to participate in something with this much risk. If you lie about being an accredited investor, or your region, to participate in one of these (they are starting to ask this now), you may forfeit your ability to seek damages/redress as you committed fraud.

Be careful. All of these arent securities, but for the ones that are, treat these as truly risky/volatile investments.
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