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681  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Wallet getting blocked? on: August 24, 2017, 09:24:44 PM
Is it possible for any reason that your wallet gets blocked?  Huh

There is no feature in the protocol that allows the consensus to "blacklist" or "block" a wallet. Well, you can get blacklisted technically, if your coins are coming form a wallet known to contain stolen coins. They could get confiscated when they arrive at a reputable exchange (they would be facilitating money laundering if they allow those coins to trade there). But unless this occurs, which is essentially an account restriction, you can't get your wallet 'locked' by a third party. You can lock access to your wallet, but the address would still be able to receive transactions. Just not make them.
682  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / [ANN] bitJob: Decentralized Student Marketplace for Online Jobs on: August 21, 2017, 03:36:26 PM








 






       

 




683  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 1/2 ltc bounty for researching on: August 21, 2017, 04:59:46 AM
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Send it to a Crypto charity worth a damn. I appreciate your contribution Smiley


The Water Project https://thewaterproject.org/ got your bounty
14xEPWuHC3ybPMfv8iTZZ29UCLTUSoJ8HL
~1/6 ltc
https://blockchain.info/tx/d6823e648510349dce945144b67e72b9a9f5dd3fd8a545241dc0af534ad44515

LgHtfqv8n4Fu5Fh2JFEXpqRDUZdt2CJFo8
LTC address:

0.183 ltc
block 1261796

Thanks - this was a fun read and a great thought experiment!

My litecoin address is LQdbv3AnpzcoyUEbgWcmULLjjXWASCs2MW

0.183 ltc
block 1261796

After transaction fees should total 1/6ltc x 3 = 1/2 ltc total




hehe, im a company man, im just used to all the research I produce being a 'work product". also, it was a fun dive, and it made a difference. no complaints here.

this was a good choice, I wasnt even aware of them  Grin

thank you sir, i appreciate you contribution. good man  Wink
684  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: August 21, 2017, 04:55:48 AM

That means people doesn't feel like they need to own a gun anymore. Trump has limited the number of Islamic terrorist brought in to the United States, under the name of "refugees". That may be one of the reasons. He has also stepped up the deportation of Mexican gangsters.

but non citizens cant buy guns here, and im pretty sure criminals arent using legal guns.

just sayin.
685  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [Bounty] bitJob: Decentralized Student Marketplace - Bounty Program on: August 20, 2017, 06:09:46 AM
As many of you are aware, the new bounty thread and the ANN thread have been shut down. I violated a rule with the new campaign; the result was the locking.


Do not despair! Nothing has changed; if you participated in the old bounty, you will be credited. I have received all of your PMs, if you sent me a form edit it has been recorded. I will indeed be moving forward with the second half of the signature campaign; but allow me an additional day or two to set up a bounty portal outside of the forum. For all those that have asked, yes, you cannot see updates on the sheet the OP posted because I cannot edit that sheet, for obvious reasons. A new sheet wil be released soon, but this new complication will delay that for a few days while I prepare the portal.

Given the circumstances, I will be lenient with with the grading of the signature/twitter/fb campaigns in the old campaign. Media guys; I will be grading you legitimately, for the sake of fairness  Grin

Your contributions mean a lot to me. As this forum means a lot to me. I promise I wont let you guys down; I promise you that you will be rewarded for your efforts. I have participated in a great many of these campaigns myself; I know the frustration of slow responses, and delayed payments. There will be none of that here, it is my job to make sure you are credited for your work. I take my job very, very seriously.

If you have any questions about these new developments, contact me directly, or feel free to inquire on this thread. I will be awake a bit more than usual, to accommodate your inquiries. Do not panic; I am here for you.

Thank you for your support and patience. Sincerely.
GreenBits/Leonard Jackson

 
686  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The weakness of blockchain is the identification of a person on: August 19, 2017, 10:41:43 PM
I think the uPort and OneName technology is truly needed. Although there has been no obstacle to the identification of ownership of meaningful Address. But we need a new one. I can't wait to know the technology.

With bitcoin and ETH, this actually doesn't make that much sense.

Wallets are supposed to be cycled all the time, and not reused. I'm not aware of the specifics of both of the protocols you mentioned, but unless they specifically aren't bitcoin, then this ruins the fresh address paradigm. Bitcoin is anan by nature; it's much easier to do this with a more centralized coin like Ripple. This would essentially compromise your security to bad actors as well, by making your coin movements more traceable. it would really need to be a worthy reason to implement this, or this seems like a needless drag on the network.

Besides, way cheaper/easier to just monitor the Fiat/Crypto conversion points.
687  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Do you see alts have chances against Bitcoins? on: August 19, 2017, 10:04:34 PM
Of course there is room.

Cryptocurrencies in general are pretty bleeding edge, as well as the utilization of blockchain technologies. To say that bitcoin is the pinnacle is a bit short sited, IMO. We haven't even been here a decade yet, I at least hope for overall longevity that the sphere diversifies in a meaningful way ( I'm talking actual alts, not the cloned, purpose less shitcoins that are a dime a dozen (no pun intended). For example, bitcoin has become slow and expensive. There are plenty of viable coins that solve this by design, DOGE, ETH and LTC to name a few. ETH has great potential once they iron out the kinks in the smart contracts. Essentially, if the coin serves a different functiin, why not utilize it to its fullest potential?
688  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Legal bitcoin or illegal bitcoin on: August 19, 2017, 09:54:08 PM
Can you guyz vote if what are we doing now is legal or not
Coz these can be a serious like having a marijuana or drugs in our pockets
 
And if these bitcoin became a currency i think it will be have a tax and
Why do we eager to earn virtual money than real money.. simply because the rate is higher than the real ones and it is easy to earn if i am not mistaken😎

What you guyz think

Newbie

Bitcoin is property, a governmental non consideration at the least and an actually currency at the most. I don't think bitcoin itself can be illegal or legal itself, unless you mean it's prohibited in said area, which is pretty rare. Coins can be tainted, or essentially associated with a known criminal activity. That would make them evidence and subject to confiscation; but the coins themselves are still legal property/tender/whatever. You also would have be Ken no crime if you can demonstrate how you obtained the coins.
689  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Question really stuck me! on: August 19, 2017, 09:34:41 PM
Don't forget that the fact that there are loaded addresses on the blockchain doesn't mean that they belong to a single person. THat's a common mistake made by newbies. They see raw data and think those "people" will dump and influence the price.
In reality some of those addresses (like Satoshi's) weren't used for a very long time. Their owners might be dead or lost their private keys.
Some other addresses store coins that belong to hundreds of people (exchange cold wallets, corporate addresses).


Good point, I didn't consider that in my rant. Yes, I guess the hotwallets of major exchanges and the wallets of institutional investors might look a little daunting to someone that can't read the block chain so good Wink but as you have said, it's pretty plain if the wallet is active in that way; that is if there is a grip of activity to a wide range of addresses. I think it would still mean pretty much the same to the community; a lot of coins moving at one time has more potential for harm than good. Whatever the reason that would cause a mass exodus of coins, you can bet the price would react immediately and violently.

Let some of those old coins start moving. I'm dropping this thing like a hot potato, LOL.
690  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Church of Bitcoin on: August 19, 2017, 09:28:50 PM
Well, thanks for the feedback and commentary.

We are a sincere group of believers, and we equate our belief in the scripture (the whitepaper) by our prophet (Satoshi Nakomoto) and our living god (who is embodied in the blockchain itself) to the beliefs held by more traditional religions and religious groups.

The website is undergoing some major construction and should be ready to accept members in an automated manner shortly.

We will allow members to join without a satoshi donation, however to become a verified contributing member you will need to send the symbolic satoshi.

The wonderful donations of time and energy by a couple of really good developers is going to result in a very smooth seamless experience on the website in a few days. In the meantime, you can still join by emailing info@churchofbitcoin.org .

Thanks for your interest!

So, what community outreach/ charity do you plan on providing, given that you are a church? Thus would be the good faith reason that you would be rewarded a tax exempted status by the government. What benefits do you provide to members besides a t shirt? And what is the allocation/budget for the donated funds you receive? How much salary does OP collect from said donations?

I will go out on a limb and say that your potential for abuse is markedly greater than your potential for amelioration.

And I'll bite, I am in genuine need of funds (I could argue this point with rhetoric all day). How do I receive alms/ a donation from your charitable organization?

Be careful...
691  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin will cross 500k USD$ in 2017 on: August 19, 2017, 09:20:00 PM
i've read a post of it can be cross and step another mile stone for BITCOIN
in the 4rt quarter of 2017 it can cross 500k usd $ or also 1m USD$


what I tought was posible but i think 1M USD $ is way more time to reach than we are currently have now
what do you guyz think??!!  Huh

Seriously?

So within 4 months, you expect bitcoin to experience over 1000 percent gain (I'm being conservative for the sake of math laziness). Why in the Earth would that happen? Seriously, what fundamental change in basis could occur that would make bitcoin, which is information, the most valuable thing on the planet? And most importantly, who in their right mind would invest in something that is so obviously inflated, without risking complete ruin? This would be the bubble of bubbles; there is no real world asset which has ever performed like this.

I can't take this question seriously. LOL, and I think it might have triggered me a bit.
692  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Getting Scammed: Go to Police or Cut Losses and Move On? on: August 19, 2017, 08:56:52 PM

To be honest, op has very little chance of recovering their funds at this point, statistically. But when you lose this much money to misadventure, it is usually worth the opportunity cost to at least try everything in your power to get your money back, even if it's a long shot. Contacting the police at this point is a no brainier; there is pretty much no additional cost to do so vs what he could possibly gain on. Also, to make the space safer for anyone else that might run into these guys, better to at least let the cops know that there are criminals out there operating with this particular modus.

Again, so sorry op dude. But, that's them changes. (that's purposeful, it's a song title).
693  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [Bounty] bitJob: Decentralized Student Marketplace - Bounty Program on: August 19, 2017, 06:33:17 PM
The new campaign is live on this thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2103049.new#new

I am aware that you can not view the spreadsheets, it will be fixed within the hour. Thank you for you interest!

Please, if you request a modification to the form, if it is for the old campaign list it here. If it is for the new campaign, list it in the new thread.
694  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Question really stuck me! on: August 19, 2017, 02:31:20 PM
I always been very interested in Bitcoin, being merely open-source software code, is a powerful idea and tool to counteract evils of fiat monetary system. But what if bankers are the ones that created Bitcoin in the first place?

Seems unlikely. Most early Bitcoiners seem to have a cypherpunk / open source / liberal background, with a lot of focus on cryptography / code and with comparably little focus on finance / economy. If bankers were involved from the very beginning we'd have a very different rhetoric and very different people. Also they wouldn't be struggling to shoehorn blockchains into their existing systems as they do now.

I'm not saying that there are no bankers amongst the early adopters. I'm sure there's a couple of bankers and people from the financial industry that saw Bitcoin's potential early on. But I doubt that they were there from the beginning. That was mostly a very special breed of nerds <3


Meaning that the wealth disparity in bitcoins is actually WORSE than the wealth disparity between the rich and poor as it stands right now.

Meaning in total those 47+ 880 people own half of the bitcoins in the world, while the other half has to be shared between 1,010,000 people.

Is that true?

Wealth disparity is expected as only very few people entered Bitcoin early. Even today I guess more than 95% of people on earth don't own a single Satoshi. Probably never will. However I assume that for most people that got wealthy due to Bitcoin it was a once in a lifetime opportunity and not yet another investment by someone who already was rich in the first place.

Apart from that, most wealth that got accumulated by Bitcoiners is still nothing compared to actually rich people. Bitcoins complete market cap has not even reached Warren Buffett's estimated net worth yet.

Well stated. While wealth is concentrated in a few wallets, the ideals that used to rule this space are kinder than the ideals that rule our traditional markets. The folks holding those coins are aware of the import of said coins.

The largest holders are founders; namely Toshi, and he is aware, like ALL of us are aware, that his coins are the basis of the trust. If those coins ever move, chaos will ensue and we will fall to an alt. Most likely ethereum.  His faith in the face of his nature is noble. What must it feel like to be one of the richest people in the world, but to understand that to collect your wealth, you would have to destroy your opus, his swan song, and ruin the fortunes of all of those that believed? It's obvious to me that the still living Satoshi, and his silence/inactivity, is a reassurance.

Tldr: those coins will never move, they are dead to us, so that we may live as a whole.
695  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you could ask 1 Question to Satoshi Nakamoto what would you ask? on: August 19, 2017, 02:21:29 PM
Why did you let Craig Wright claim to be you for a stretch?

Satoshi is among us. He/She/They just can't announce it...imagine how easily it would fuck things up. If there were one person to praise or blame for bitcoin (depending on your perspective) there would be chaos in the market.

It must be wonderful to be Satoshi. To be able to see this thing they created and how it has evolved and flourished AND have the peace to be able to live life without the scrutiny or attention that being Satoshi would bring. Perhaps the only challenge is the uber amounts of coin that exists in wallets known to be Satoshi's that can really never be touched without the entire community discussing it. I'm sure Satoshi has other wallets, other stashes, etc.

But i'm not sure what takes more self control - not touching the wealth in those wallets or not announcing to the world that you are Satoshi.

I agree, partiality, but I agree in spirit.

I do believe that Satoshi is alive. Unless he was like, 80 when he made this, there is no reason why he should he dead. It's been less than a decade; he would not make his opus so late in life.

But his silence is telling.

Why hasn't he came back? And with how we have fucked up his grand vision with our greed and partisan ways, more importantly why would he come back? His brain child, a singular entity, has been split in twain. Instead of advancing the protocol for the good of all, we have stupidly split into factions, spoiling the Democratic ideal he set in place. Our current state, a divided community, certainly isn't what he intended. We have let our nature get the best of us, our human nature, and in my opinion, we have ruined a noble thing with our greed. I am just as complicit; perhaps even more complicit than most because I have been here longer. These forks aren't the answer. We need to reach consensus, dammit. This bickering only hurts us all, as we erode the trust we fought for so hard, after all these years.

If I were Satoshi, bitcoin, in its current state, would be dead to me.

It's not too late. We need to fix this. But the solutions we are fielding right now, don't do that. They are a bandaid over a mortal wound.
696  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin really secure? on: August 19, 2017, 02:04:12 PM
Is Bitcoin really secure? Well, let's just say, cryptographically yes yes and yes.
A problem arises in security most often when a disgruntled or despearate boyfriend or girlfriend a jealous
hear or a mean streak, or a crazed gambler has your codes, back ups and an iq over 10 don't worry but keep
 up your guard no matter what to be prepared if needed., 


This is my point. Bitcoin, by design, is secure as shit. The encryption is more than adequate for the time being, but we will have to accommodate quantum computers when they actually become a viable thing, which at least gives us five to ten years in my opinion.

But the protocol is not what is getting hacked. No one is exploiting core code flaws when bitcoin gets stolen. Folks get hammered because of a security failure at a point of centralization.

You are only as safe as the weakest link I'm your armor, so to speak. Because of your operating system and malware, a 100 character password won't save you from a key logger/screen grabber. For exchanges, no matter if you have 2fa and whitelisted withdrawal Addy's, if the exchange has a compromise (inside job, legit hack, fatal error) you are still just as fucked. 

Let me repeat this. A thing is only as strong as its weakest link. Strengthen the whole, and your lowest hanging fruit raises up a few inches Wink

And be smart, dammit. I didn't even address confidence scams, I don't have time.
697  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The flippening is coming fast. The real bitcoin is catching up quick. on: August 19, 2017, 01:49:34 PM
This flippening will be even more short lived than Ethereum's flippening, and by flippening I mean pump and dump.

So I see you are enjoying your little coin with big blocks that can't even fill 1 MB worth of transactions. How does it feel being Jihan Wu's cuck?



Enjoy your decentralized currency.


LMAO at the cuck, you made my day bro LOL.

This is an obvious pump. No one ever bother to ask why things go up  hundreds of percents in the night. Why would an asset value that much, with no news or developments? The enthusiasm is setting people up for a huge loss; the amount of activity on the network should be a wake up call about the utility of the coin. All activity on BCC is speculative, like everything in this space. Be wary; as I stated in an earlier post, the lack of intrinsic value (even more so because BCC doesn't have BTC's trust) makes this a risky bet, esp buying into a recent peak. Never buy into peaks unless you know something others don't Wink

These forks are only hurting us. We don't need this right now.
698  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So Bitcoin is better than Gold? on: August 19, 2017, 01:20:25 PM
It's intrinsic value vs subjective value at play here.

All arguments against this price bubble aside, the main difference between gold and BTC is the type of value it represents. BTC is useless except as a store of value, and the price is purely borne on speculation because of this (how can you base a meaningful price on something that isn't real? Hence, subjective value.

The other side of the coin: gold. Gold is a real thing, with real functionality and utility. It's more than just a store of value, it can be used in the various sciences and arts. Most importantly, gold is durable and easy to assay. This lends to its intrinsic value; notice no one is breaking their necks to buy up gold, despite the fact it is a more trusted/established value store.

Kinda put it all in perspective, IMO.
699  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Why does Bittrex have Bitcoin Cash listed as BCC instead of BCH? on: August 19, 2017, 01:08:26 PM
I'm just asking because I don't want to be victim to the fucking after the flipping.

This alarmed me at first, but it seems to be cool, or its attached to the right blockchain at least, LOL. Was wary of a scam (I know that sounds paranoid,  esp with Bittrex, but I have seen some shit man) and then was cautious about similar named coins (everyone else kept saying BCH while Trex had BCC). I can confirm that the BCC symbol corresponds to Bitcoincash, and Bitcoincash sent into the exchange will increase your BCC holdings.

Why the difference in nomenclature? No idea. Did Trex have a BCH symbol before they added Bitcoincash?
700  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshis Original Vision on: August 19, 2017, 12:58:03 PM
It's exactly your line of thinking has led Bitcoin down this path, price is everything you care. But you don't understand, without Satoshi's vision, there is no Bitcoin. What you will have is another bank/paypal, it may work better than Satoshi's Bitcoin due to centralization, it may worth a lot, but it's not the Satoshi's Bitcoin we signed up for.

Honestly, it doesn't matter what is the Satoshis original vision as he was disappeared long time ago and let it to core developers to handle bitcoin nodes. People don't care about original vision as bitcoin price is the best thing right now, and time will reveal the best coin among all of those coins, but bitcoin still far ahead from bitcoin cash or other altcoins. As long as people trust bitcoin and always use it, then it will always lead the market which the most important thing is usability.

Amen. This was a social experiment that was going right. All of this, lately, this isn't what he wanted. We are chasing what other alt coins have instead of maintaining the casual nature it was intended for. In the end, we will indeed be efficient, but we will just be another alt.

Pretty much PayPal by another name, I concur.

We spent all the damned time building this trust, folks. Years of obscurity, and we are finally just seeing the light. We need to slow down. No matter what protocol emerges the winner in all this, if we lose the trust, we don't have anything Sad

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