Best  time to buy.
Not only btc, but stocks from all over the world.

Be fearless in this bloodbath.  Don't be fearless in a bull run.

Yes  I do that. As electrum is a much better software.

But even if electrum and ledger live disappear, you can access your coins using the seed and its private keys. As others said. No worries.

The most important is to buy a hardware wallet so you are sure you generated your seed safety.

I don't think there is only a panic selling
There is panic selling in the stock  market, and many bitcoin holders want to sell to buy stocks. They may also need liquid to cover their positions

Esse pânico global faz um certo sentido.
Estava lendo o Taleb falar que a taxa de mortalidade do corona vírus é só de 2% pq os contaminados estão tendo realmente tratamento médico.

Mas se muita gente se contaminar não terão recursos pra tratar todo mundo, e 1uase 20% dos pacientes requerem tratamento. Provavelmente 4.7% morrem sem tratamento.



Vamos fazer nossa parte pra evitar uma contaminação disseminada.

R ao mesmo tempo ir comprando o que pudermos. Eu vou comprar uns tesouro direto

Good topic.
We all should do our part to stop corona virus from spreading.

Specially if we care about our older fellows.

Additionally,  corona is more dangerous than it looks like: only 2% of infected are dying because there is still few people contained.  If it really spreads out, medical resources will not be available for everyone.

Play online, stat at home.

Rapaz, só pra criar uma carteira na Electrum tem umas 5 telas com um monte de preguntas (q mesmo pessoas que usam o fórum aqui se enrolam). Mas blz, já q ele já conseguiu... Eu tb recomendo a Electrum, mas pra iniciantes não. É uma péssima escolha pra eles, qualquer tutorial aí na internet fala isso inclusive.

Eu uso a Electrum.  Mas sei q nao é simples de usar.

Samourai talvez tb não seja uma boa opção, por isso sugeri tb a coinomi. Embor ambas sejam mais faceis de usar do que a Electrum.

Mesmo que já tenham passado dois dias, imaginei que o usuário poderia voltar achando a wallet difícil de usar e coloquei opções de wallets com uma interface mais amigável

Se a adoção do btc depender de wallets como a Electrum, tamo fudido. Por isso que existem Wallets piores , mas mais amigaveis. Pra pessoas qhe nao sao geeks e viciados em tecnologis, como você  eu e outros por aqui.

Cara, o rapaz aí não sabe nem o que é uma wallet.
Vc aí falando de derivation path, ele vai ficar perdidaco.
Electrum é cheio de botões e opções. Interface super depressiva. Eu nunca recomendo ela pra um novato, a não ser q seja alguém da área.

Enfim, recomenda o que você quiser... Mas mobile wallet são mais fáceis de usar. Elas têm dois botões:pagar e receber. Scaneia o qr code e pronto  pagou o bitpay, sinceramente não sei do q vc está falando sobre a Samourai não conseguir transferir os btc, mas tudo bem.

There is something different now in this halving
There is a world crisis going on. We don't know how will bitcoin react, if the crisis will get worse by the time of the halving....

Maybe things need to settle down before any big bitcoin upward movement

Cara, sinceramente acho que você não deveria usar a Electrum não.
Primeira vez que você usa Bitcoin, Electrum é uma carteira para usuários avançados.

Fora isso  concordo com tudo que foi dito.

Eu usaria a Samourai wallet pra celular mesmo. Ou então a coinomi.

São carteiras mais fáceis de usar e você terá menos dúvidas. O nível de segurança é praticamente o mesmo mas são carteiras mais convenientes.
Essas carteira de celular todas leem o QR code por exemplo
Anote a seed num papel (nunca online) é seja feliz,.

Eu uso o do loycev
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5209773.0

Nnao gosto de telegrama, nem de instalar App inútil no cel kk

I don't like services which try to push us their own coins

There is a risk involved in operations using newly created coins/tokens.

Colega
Vou recomendar fortemente que você ignore todos os contatos por email.
O que mais existe no Brasil, especialmente quango falamos de bitcoin, sao golpistas

Vao te encher de e-mails tentando roubar suas moedas.

Tenha todas as suas discussões aqui publicamente. Nos podemos te ajudar. Nunca fornexa suas chaves privadas ou sua seed (24 palavras) para ninguém.

The topic title is "Corona virus didnt affect bitcoin price"

Then you said "bitcoin market was slow to react"

If you are not talking about corona, well.. you are in the wrong topic. And totally off topic.

Who is wrong now? You said I made a bullish topic lol



I think you just don't know what you are talking about.
There is a world crisis going on and you want bitcoin to be entirely uncorrelated? Nothing in this world is entirely uncorrelated.
A natural disaster in China may affect bitcoin price, gold price and stock market in Canada. We live in a globalized world. When  people talk about uncorrelated assets,  that doesn't mean those asset will never have any kind of correlation.

Well, ok, you are right man

Bitcoin felt 3 days later because of corona virus, oil price crisis was just a coincidence (as  BTC was slot to react) and holding price is bullish.

Lol ok, let's go.



You are saying here that bitcoin is reacting to Corona virus now, as "bitcoin market was slow to react". This is absolutely wrong in every sense.
Don't you read the news? There is a price war going on between  Saudi Arabia and Russia, which started this weekend. There is absolutely no correlation between this price movement and corona virus.

1 - You are wrong to say bitcoin was slow to react.




2 - Wrong again.... Please show me where this is a bullish topic. Holding the price is a bullish movement now?


3 - there wasn't any bear in bitcoin price related to corona virus, which is what this topic is about




4 - wrong again.
it doesn't matter if only two days passed. I clearly can see you don't read the news and don't care much about traditional markets.

The situation changed entirely in 2 days.

There was a circuit breaker in NY, Brazil, and almost everywhere else. Do you know what this is?

I will explain to you, copy paste from wikipedia:

You want to ignore everything that is happening in the whole world and force your idea that bitcoin is crashing slowing due to Corona virus.

THe circuit breaker prevent all negotiations of all Stocks in wall street, not only those related to Oil Industry. Do you really how big this crisis is?
This has nothing to do with Corona.

lol. Name one reason??? Go read the news man.



World economy is based in Oil. There are tensions which may lead to war... there is instability everywhere. Ofc this can affect bitcoin price. The situation changed enterily



Bitcoin price is not enterily correlated. There were 2 crashed in the stock market. One smaller (corona) which didn't affect bitcoin, and one much bigger that you ignored , which affected the whole world economy. This situation may take years to solve and may lead even to war. This will ofc affect bitcoin and the stock market, among many other things.

Keep your" slow reaction Bitcoin Corona crisis" opinion and ignore Saudi Arabia x Russia drama (which is making the whole world crazy now, much more worried than the corona virus) and I will keep my idea that Bitcoin hold strong against corona virus.

Btw, I think bitcoin is perfoming extremely well in this world crisis. I don't agree that bears are on rampage. Bears are very shy now. Let's see how it goes... I expected a much worse bloodbath (Brazil Stock market is suffering much more than bitcoin)

Esse projeto realmente tem uma ideia genial, mas acredito que foi mal executada.

Imagina se o Firefox ou qualquer outro browser, ou ainda, se uma extensão como o ublock resolvem fazer a mesma coisa.

Imagina, se o ublock começa a te pagar em BTC pra navegar na internet sem kyc.

Nao vejo por que existir bat.

I believe the most important is:
Old and reliable
Community support
No scam accusations
Clear rules on house edge
Low fees for withdrawal
Clear kyc rules.

Man. I don't understand where you want to go... almost everything you said is wrong.


Don't you read the news? There is a world crisis going on, which was not happening when I created the topic.

Not only the stock market is falling, everything is and bitcoin is no different this time.

What I said earlier is still correct.

And you are wrong. Bitcoin didnt react slowly to corona virus (as you said). It basically didn't have any reaction to corona virus.

And no, I didn't make a bullish topic. I said bitcoin was resilient to Corona it didnt fall. It still is.

Bitcoin price is falling for other reasons.

Take a look at the news about Russia, Saudi Arabia and oil prices then you come back here.

 what happened today proves my theory.
Do you read news right,? You know that there is a price war happening in the oil industry,  and this affecting the prices all over the globe.

This has nothing to do with corona virus.

I said corona didnt affect btc price (and it didnt). Few days later there is an oil crisis and btc falls. You cant blame corona for that

Hardware wallets are expensive?

Expensive is to be hacked lol

Ledger nano s is extremely cheap imo. You can buy one with 50 bucks or even less.

This is nothing. Everyone should have one.

All over the world we can stocks near 12% down since the end of January,  when  Corona virus showed up.

Bitcoin was neat 10k, and we still didnt lose 9k.

Btc is doing extremely well. it is not skyrocketing like gold but we are holding strong.
I am impressed and we can see that bitcoin price is not correlated with stock market.