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No, I don't have those aspirations about any crypto - you do. Now I'm really done with this, let's just see what happens and report back a year from now.
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Doge doesn't have to be 'the winner', it just needs to form a niche and be useful to achieve a value of a penny or more. Moving value around quickly and cheaply is the whole point to this, no? or are you naive enough to think bitcoin will create a transfer of wealth and freedom back into the hands of the people? please.
I'm having a hard time keeping up with your point here... We must have been thinking of two completely different problems when you asked about Bitcoin and Dogecoin referring to the problems that one could solve absent the other... I hope Doge does get a niche, and I hope plenty of people can prosper from it. People can learn about the "ease of use" with Dogecoin because they can just toss it around without feeling any remorse and then graduate into Bitcoin. Bitcoin might not win the currency race, but you can guarantee whatever currency prevails will be a better "transfer of wealth and freedom back into the hands of the people" as you put it. The roots within that statement are the most powerful human force on Earth. You can be very sure that people will choose to use whichever contender suits that purpose the best. Quote from 'Wallstreet' "the rich have been sticking it to the poor since the beginning of time." Bitcoin isn't going to change that, sorry. By the time we have a crypto as the world currency you can bet the same bastards who own everything now will own that. Basically I give btc a very small shot at being worth $10k someday, I give Doge a bigger chance to reach a penny. Doge does not need btc to succeed, fiat currency and doge will trade easily soon. That's all, I'm done with this discussion - Doge may be worthless in a couple months but I really doubt it - if it is I'll mine the next harmless but useful coin that takes it's place. |
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I'm interested in bitcoin, could you explain to me how you find out where I might sign up to a forum where people talk about it?
You just sent fiat to Gox. Being flippant just makes you look like an asshole now, we already know how dumb you are. |
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Doge doesn't have to be 'the winner', it just needs to form a niche and be useful to achieve a value of a penny or more. Moving value around quickly and cheaply is the whole point to this, no? or are you naive enough to think bitcoin will create a transfer of wealth and freedom back into the hands of the people? please.
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Who the hell is talking about it becoming the world currency? all it needs to do is be worth a penny someday and anyone taking it seriously as an investment today will be rich. Bitcoin needs to make it to $10k for the same payoff with todays investment. Considering they both do the same thing, I think the odds of each case favors Doge.
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I fail to see Dogecoin as a joke when it's completely kicked btc's ass as an investment since it was created. Check btc value in early Dec vs now, then Doge when it was created in Dec and now if you don't buy it. You're seriously comparing the entire lifespan of dogecoin (2 months lol) with the performance of bitcoin in only the last two months of its 4+ years of existence? Without bitcoin dogecoin wouldn't even exist, it's just an old copy of litecoin with a meme behind it and decent marketing. Let's talk again in a year from now, I'm willing to bet that even litecoin will easily outperform dogecoin in the course of an entire year. Silly hypes never last very long, and nobody is going to take a coin like dogecoin seriously. I give dogecoin 4 more months at most until people get bored of it and it will die a slow death. Good luck with your delusions. What's remarkable is in only 2 months (lol) dogecoin daily transactions have surpassed btc, which as been around 4+ years. You are the delusional one if you really think bitcoin will be the top coin forever. You neglect the content of these transactions which is the most important part of the function for which a transaction serves. How many DOGE transactions were actually payment for labor? How about goods? Just because people throw DOGE around as a tip speaks more truth about the perception of value in Dogecoin. People hold it as worthless and as such are eager to tip it away... How many Deutschmarks do you think were spammed around after the hyper-inflationary period of the Wiemar Republic? Do you think that the huge volume gave them some additional store of value? I don't know what the transactions are used for and I don't care. What matters is people are paying attention to it and using it, and spreading the word. No matter how annoying it is to bitcoin snobs, this is what needs to happen on a huge scale for any crypto to ever come close to being mainstream. Marketing rule of 7 - people need to see something 7 times before it registers and all that rot. |
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I fail to see Dogecoin as a joke when it's completely kicked btc's ass as an investment since it was created. Check btc value in early Dec vs now, then Doge when it was created in Dec and now if you don't buy it. You're seriously comparing the entire lifespan of dogecoin (2 months lol) with the performance of bitcoin in only the last two months of its 4+ years of existence? Without bitcoin dogecoin wouldn't even exist, it's just an old copy of litecoin with a meme behind it and decent marketing. Let's talk again in a year from now, I'm willing to bet that even litecoin will easily outperform dogecoin in the course of an entire year. Silly hypes never last very long, and nobody is going to take a coin like dogecoin seriously. I give dogecoin 4 more months at most until people get bored of it and it will die a slow death. Good luck with your delusions. What's remarkable is in only 2 months (lol) dogecoin daily transactions have surpassed btc, which as been around 4+ years. You are the delusional one if you really think bitcoin will be the top coin forever. |
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I fail to see Dogecoin as a joke when it's completely kicked btc's ass as an investment since it was created. Check btc value in early Dec vs now, then Doge when it was created in Dec and now if you don't buy it.
Aside from this complete ass kicking profit differential, people are stupid as we all know, and need to have things packaged like they are used to. They have a problem with a single coin being worth hundreds or thousands of dollars. The mainstream will take to Doge better because it will most likely end up being worth around a cent.
I've got 2 miners, about 2.5 mh/s each - one is and will continue to make Doge until it's worth real money or collapses. It's a better bet than BTC imo.
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There are people who bought btc in December for a grand that still haven't gotten their btc and can't get their money back. If what you say is true what would explain that other than outright fraud or being broke? of course it's possible it was so badly mismanaged they could be broke, it's happened on this scale lots of times.
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When was the last time Gox btc price was less than half of the other exchanges? Do you really believe they have the fiat and/or btc to make things right? I'm just a dumb newbie, please explain where my mistakes lie..
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I am betting that Mark goes down in history right alongside Bernie Madoff. How you think gox is going to come back and everything will be ok is beyond me.
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700+ after mtgox allows withdraws then down to 600 area again after some mtgox users sell... Then settle in the 600-700 range for a few weeks. After that i have no idea.
I think that's unrealistically optimistic, even if gox survives this. I think Matt and others who expect $380ish soon are much closer. I'm buying in at $400, come what may. If it doesn't get there oh well, I was wrong. |
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Ok then, if those were legitimate buys I can rest assured we have some of the dumbest people on the planet into bitcoin.
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Gox spiked to $540 from the low $300s last night, right before it's current dip into the mid $200s. What would explain this, other than Mark or someone at Gox who is in control taking a big payout? I'm not exactly sure what is happening, but every indicator says we are witnessing one huge act of corruption and thievery.
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Dude, Ive been fighting with gox support to get a mere 2BTC (or $2000) OUT of their exchange for EIGHT weeks and your looking at putting money IN??  Think of it like a double or nothing gamble. If gox support fixes the withdrawals, then he doubles his money. If they don't, then he gets nothing. However, it's possible that even if they never fix btc withdrawal, he may be able to get the fiat back so it's actually better than double or nothing. Worst. Advice. Ever. If the op decides to spend $25k to Gox he deserves whatever he gets. I do feel bad for folks like Oldtimer who bought before it became obvious this was a black hole. |
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Give me $5k instead, I just saved you $20k!
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I think it's an indicator they are still willing to steal from suckers.
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This poll is a joke, right?
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Definite bull trap, buyers past $700 got suckered into thinking it was taking off. At some point avg Joe is going to get tired of this shit and the only ones left playing will be the pros and the whales.
This stagnant $660 on Bitstamp reeks of another dive soon.
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Might be tonight, $700 was very brief. Seven day chart sure looks like a continuing bear trend - I'm probably wrong though, as usual.
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