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3621  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow is most likely a scam operation on: February 17, 2014, 04:20:11 AM
DZ in all reality PG is pointing out stuff that many people think. Maybe they don't want to ruffle feathers or cause a rift etc. He/She has no problem getting in your face and throwing out a bunch of stuff and sees what stick. I don't know you, I don't know them, some / much / All / none of this could be true/false. But as an investor in products piece of mind knowing everything is legit helps. There comes a point in time where it just hit that spot where it could be just a interesting coincidence ya know?

Look at the Group buy forums today.. its freaking SAD.. SCAM after SCAMMER after SCUMBAG Scammer for a lack of a better term .. FUCKING people out of thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars on these Avalon 2 clones. Then.. they just create OR BUY another forum account and start a new con.

And when will the he/she when referring to me going to end? (......dog, you're going to love this): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFHbXSnNkXU#t=4m52s

(FULL) Breast Cancer Foundation Plea to Accept Bitcoin Donations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FFe_42TpiY

And why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfTOVdZvxiU
3622  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow is most likely a scam operation on: February 17, 2014, 03:59:55 AM
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I'm a (near) 40 year old gamer

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At that time I said I had 30 years of IT and advanced sales experience. True and True. My father owned a shop on Kauai that was modestly successful for over 10 years and as a kid growing up around the shop, I was selling to and teaching adults some complex stuff which I won't discuss because you're such a uber shtalker without a life, I suppose.

http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1i3s2j/my_grandfather_lived_in_the_arctic_for_several/cb11k0g

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I agree. Growing up in the '70s I used to actually have B&W and some of the first color copies of WW2 era Nat Geos that I took for granted - sigh, wonder if those are worth $ - when I was a little. I would read through them in fascination.
This was eerily reminiscent of those 1940s NGs & you really should submit it to them.

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/wx5ix/what_things_do_people_have_in_other_countries/c5hc0fd

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[From someone who's surfed around Hawaii since 1986 in up to 25' face waves (as a dumb, invincible teen)]

I is not a MENSA, but if I didith my maths wright, me say you born about 1975. Myself, March 4, 1960. I've had the pleasure of being in the homes of Barbara Mandell (both homes, north of Nashville in burbs), Frank Beard (ZZ Top), President George Herbert Walker Bush (Houston), among many other notables. Not too bad for a useless broke dude whomith ain't a MENSA. Feel free to vett my source if I entrusted you with Greta Van Susteren's personal phone number. Then again, she probably gives it to every Tom, Dick and Harry she meets, somewhat the way you vett fellow bitcoiners to make this a safer community.
3623  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow is most likely a scam operation on: February 17, 2014, 03:21:03 AM
Yes.

So? I'm relatively new to crypto but an oldtimer at IT, which crypto falls under.

Ask lots of folks here: I've been working my ass off for the benefit of others without anything or much in return.

I've vetted for free and helped get started many of my own competitors but I guess that's still scammy behavior if you're a creepy shtalker troll without a life.

Hmm, how apropro that I recently came across this article: http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/climate_desk/2014/02/internet_troll_personality_study_machiavellianism_narcissism_psychopathy.html

How many boxes do you check off on this "personality quiz" PG?  Cheesy  Grin

For somebody who claims to have a well-paying job there in Hawaii, you sure the hell keep repeating about how you do shit for free around here. Would you like to compare the hours you've put in for free vs. my hours I've put in for free weeding (no pun intended) out those that shouldn't have been vetted?

I notice that you keep backing that Matt Carson, the first person you've vetted. Would you be so kind as to explain to us how somebody claiming to be of MENSA stature, somehow passes Matt Carson with flying colors? Likewise, I couldn't help but notice the myriad of grammatical errors is your prose, something not really expected from a near genius. Perhaps, the quality of certain plants grown in Hawaii may have something to do with that, so I'll give you a pass in that regard.

I love how you use me stalking you, now as an excuse to not give your name. It still fuckin' amazes me how you joined this forum and two short weeks later you're the vetting guru. But, what's really amazing is the people you've vetted. Yet, with all your intelligence, you continue to claim that I'm a broke fuck wasting my life away on this here laptop, living in my dead mother's van down by the up-the-creek-sans-a-paddle.

Wanta make me happy? Follow through with the same threat you made to eve and sue my ass for libel and defamation, for I'm stating right here, right now that you can't be trusted. I'm pretty sure I'll never see such a suit, for that'll mean your real name will be on the document.

Game on, magic surfer boy!

~Bruno Kucinskas
3624  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow is most likely a scam operation on: February 17, 2014, 02:54:14 AM
PG : How does DZ and Thomas fit into all of this? Since they seem to be the 3 amigos.

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Name:   DyslexicZombei
Posts:   1302
Activity:   210
Position:   Full Member
Date Registered:   July 25, 2013, 02:04:18 PM
Last Active:   Today at 08:40:26 PM

DyslexicZombei's first ever public comment pertaining to Bitcoin was on Thu Jul 18 22:53:45 2013 UTC: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ilah4/where_should_my_asic_investment_go_to/cb5kcjb

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DyslexicZombei 1 point 7 months ago

Honestly - except for tiny USB ASIC miners with only 333MH - there's no one that has anything in stock & ready to ship. That's why the in-hand ASIC miners you do see on Ebay are selling at such a high premium (so high, ROI may never be met).
-I have a couple of BFL Jalapenos on order but I don't expect to see that until November-December, if at all this year. If you do order from BFL, Jalapenos seem to be shipping the fastest (they're up to pre-orders from the end of October 2012). They now appear to be pumping out a month's worth of Jalapeno orders in a week.
-For American suppliers the closest I found was a 25GH Bitfury pre-order shipping in October for $1300.
You can check the Bitcoin Talk Custom Hardware forum for group buys & assembly of pre-purchased chips. Liquid Synergy looks interesting.
If you really want to take a flier & risk some $ on a Chinese ASIC miner supplier like I did, ASX Project is supposed to start shipping 200 units next Friday. I figured at the prices they were offering I couldn't afford not to take the risk. I just put an order in for a 50GH unit at $1K. Supposedly, batch 2 will cost much more.
I wouldn't bet your rent money on ASX Project shipping next week but if you have some funds you can risk that appears to be your only non-Ebay option to potentially get your hands on decent ASIC hardware sooner rather than later. I know Bitcoin Talk sees them as a scam but I think there's a bit of racism involved with that because nearly all ASIC chips come from China.
Of course: caveat emptor & all that...
3625  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow is most likely a scam operation on: February 17, 2014, 02:35:08 AM
WTF! Still no answer? Ah, I see! It was a word problem, thus making it that much more difficult, eh, Darin? Allow me to express it as an equation: 40 - 30 = ___.

Extra credit awarded if you show your work. And, no cheating! If you cheat now in life, who knows what you'll grow up to become. Probably a vetter, vetting the first person who comes along tootin' a hookah. AND I AIN'T JUST A SAYIN'!

EXTRA, EXTRA credit given if you can name the person who said the following:

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I'm in the same boat. One of the main reasons I bought shares in asicminer was the great communication. The lack of communication/PR in the bitcoin world is honestly unacceptable. Any bitcoin business who deals with more than 1 bitcoin satoshi of customers funds is obligated to keep constant communication with at least those who put their money in that company. Seriously one forum post every 2 weeks from these "business operators" is complete bullshit.
3626  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow is most likely a scam operation on: February 17, 2014, 02:08:45 AM
PG : How does DZ and Thomas fit into all of this? Since they seem to be the 3 amigos.

Funny you should ask, for that's why I'm back.

Somebody, don't know who  Roll Eyes, once said...

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Seriously please do a little more research

...so I did.

DyslexicZombei: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=288150.msg3089365#msg3089365

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I provide world class customer service support, education skills, and access to my 30 years of IT and advanced sales experience (I once sold and taught close up magic tricks as a teenager).

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/wpymo/as_a_40_yr_old_gamer_this_still_makes_me_happy_to/c5flcvc

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DyslexicZombei 3 points 1 year ago

I'm a (near) 40 year old gamer & that photo makes me happy too.
My kids & I game & it's great for bonding with my kids. My 7 yr old son & I have separate Tribes & BF3 accounts & we'll sometimes play co-op.
My favorite kid gaming story: When Halo came out for PC my daughter was 3 years old and precocious about electronics. I would sometimes let her play & she'd mostly spam 'nades around randomly. Every once in a while she'd take someone out so the screen would read something like:
"l33tN1nja was killed by...a 3 year old girl."
Sometimes I'd be around & type in: This is her father. You really did get killed by a 3 year old girl!

Will somebody do the math for me so that I don't make a mistake before I continue on this crusade of proving that something's amiss? Surely, Mr. DZ didn't forget how old he is or err in how many years of IT and advanced sales experience he has under his belt, did he? If he did do the latter, then he continued the practice in a myriad other posts.

Then again, I'm just a broke asshole living in my dead mother's van down by the up-the-creek-sans-a-paddle, now getting a fresh cup of coffee to return to see who did the math for me.

Thank you in advance,

~Bruno Kucinskas (no need to not use my real name)

PS: Apologies for the large colored font, but it makes my dick hard.
3627  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]R17x: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 <DZMC Exclusive> $130 / 40GHS on: February 16, 2014, 10:42:28 PM
You guys know my original post said week and a half till refunds started, I was able to get most of them early, but most will have to wait another 2ish days.

aha! ok now i get it. it is not about giving this attention or prioritizing it.

i think he simply does not have the bitcoins.

so for the mate who said "they didnt run off wih the money or anything", the story might have a twist.
The units were paid for in order to get the funds for a refund we need to request on a per machine basis a refund and wait till the BTC is sent so it can be distributed.

What tom is trying to say, but may have been lost in translation due to the hookah being passed around, is that this is how a reseller entity operates: a --> b --> c, with the investomer being a, the reseller being b, and Black Arrow being c. Motherfuckin' genius, if you ask me, especially the part where c can't me sued by a if c fails to deliver. I'm pretty sure if I smoked that shit, I would be able to go head-to-head with Q.
3628  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2014, 10:29:46 PM
3629  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow is most likely a scam operation on: February 16, 2014, 10:20:53 PM
I bet someone starts posting in this thread with big bold text in bright colors.

your time machine landed you on the wrong side, i'm sure that post should have been made earlier.

which means i didn't lose the bet we were about to make.

:p



The bet will be declared null and void because it will probably be a copy and paste jobie.
3630  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow is most likely a scam operation on: February 16, 2014, 10:17:54 PM
http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/index.php?dispatch=news.list&page=2&sl=en

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The latest Black Arrow’s ASIC is not a contender for making the being the largest chip on the market. Their engineers are confident that this design ensures highest reliability with a very low risk and lowest power consumption. When these ASICs are combined to work together they are performing better than their competition at a lower cost.

The unedited quote above is not only located on BA's website, but was used as their official press release. Emphasis on what the obvious errors are.

If written correctly, the following:

"The latest Black Arrow’s ASIC is a contender for making the largest chip on the market. Their engineers are confident that their design ensures highest reliability with a very low risk and lowest power consumption. When these ASICs are combined to work together, they'll perform better than their competition at a lower cost."

It'll still read like a shit-for-brains penned it, but at least it would have been grammatically correct.
3631  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Massive Luck on: February 16, 2014, 10:14:06 PM
I'm in! Shut up & take my money!  Cheesy

BTW, that Avalon clone builder they mention sells overpriced, obsolete clones IMO.

Interesting to see you here, DZ. I'm sure you won't take the time to share how Massive Luck is affiliated with Black Arrow or Matt Carson's massive warehouse farm/hosting facility in Colorado, so I guess I'm left to do it, eh?

Meanwhile, you just go back to a vetting every Tom, Dick and Harry that newly registers to this forum, then you embrace, well I continue to be an asshole.

BTW, feel free to blame me if too many bitcoiners opt to request refunds from the very entities you've vetted, albeit I ain't got a clue as to why such is occurring.

~Bruno Kucinskas (My real name. What the fuck is yours?)

PS: I may and may not be starting an entity called The Hornet Project, a school to teach others how to vett.
3632  Economy / Services / Re: Minersource.net & Miner Hosting LLC: Cheap and Secure Hosting and Sales! on: February 16, 2014, 07:03:10 PM
Dear @bobsag3,

I sent you a refund request in my last email. And (as it is expected) haven't got any answer. Are you playing games or doing business? Please confirm the receipt and processing of the refund request! I need my money back ASAP.

Quit bothering Matt with your silly request! Can't you see that he's busy still trying to post images of his Professional Hosting Facility?

We are all moved into the new place, lots of updates and pictures to come!

And, Matt, when you do such, please make sure to crop out the plants, the hookah, and the screenshot depicting your Skype contacts. Also, clear the exif data so that nobody will know that your Colorago warehouse is located at https://maps.google.com/maps?q=3250+Oakland+St,+Aurora&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x876c7b53c5df3cbf:0x220147301cdb0f76,3250+Oakland+St,+Aurora,+CO+80010&gl=us&ei=TQsBU4ihF-2yygHcp4DQDQ&ved=0CCkQ8gEwAA

What a fuckin' idiot!

~TMIBTCITW

3633  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow is most likely a scam operation on: February 16, 2014, 06:39:09 PM
From the desk of Bobsag3, a.k.a. Matt Carson, Black Arrow's first and #1 reseller for their miners.


<snip>

I never ended up moving to another warehouse in Rolla, just the one. We went right from small warehouse in rolla > denver warehouse in one move, early Jan.
We paid for every month, and if your in contact with who you should be to verify that kind of info, they will verify it. So yes, your blowing smoke up peoples asses.

And with that im done on the subject. I think people have seen im more than up front compared to most here- but lets stay on topic about BA, or about actual minersource orders.

Timeline of Matt Carson's datacenter locations. Originally posted in Black Arrow's self-moderated thread, but quickly deleted for being...wait for it..off-topic (and that I was trolling, so they claim). Black Arrow has proof that Matt Carson can NOT be trusted, but continue to use him as their official reseller in the US. If I were to use Tom Williams, of mybitcoin.com, as my official reseller for some product, stating that people change, would I be able to sell many product, Alex Sovu, of cardreaderfactory.com? Me, the asshole, no think so, yet...

BUILDING #1: Purchased the building, awaiting infrastructure.

Building was purchased today!
All the wiring and infrastructure equipment arrives tomorrow-Wednesday. Over 400lb. Poor UPS man


<snip>

Thanks- Ill be moving to a custom made facility here in under 3 weeks.

BUILDING #2: Moving to a better facility here (still in Missouri) located 90 miles away.

Major Update!

We will be moving to a much large, much better facility here by the end of the month. There may be a short down time (its only a 90mi drive) while being setup at the new facility, but we will not be turning anything off right up to the last minute.

Major Update!

We will be moving to a much large, much better facility here by the end of the month. There may be a short down time (its only a 90mi drive) while being setup at the new facility, but we will not be turning anything off right up to the last minute.

Building acquired Smiley

I cant answer on the software but I can on the shipping. Looks like the boards should be done here within 48 hours, and then will be dispatched after a small amount of testing to AUS, and me in the US. At least from me, all boards will then be tested again (Not sure how long... suggestions?) and then immediatly shipped out same day via UPS Next Day/2nd Day air [depending on location]. As soon as we know the boards are done, we can give  concrete delivery.

I'd sample test say 1/10th of the boards for a few hours on testnet.  That'd be my recommendation

Yeah I can do that. *might* be able to live stream, or atleast upload a ton of pictures.
I will be shipping from MO. Middle of the country, and if your anywhere close to me Im ok with local pickup Smiley.


And I just want to say guys - Barn has been working very hard behind the screens to bring this all together... this stuff is immensely complex.

Here we are, on November 18th, and Matt still has his datacenter in Missouri at the second facility:


<snip>

This is why I went from garage > warehouse > bigger warehouse. Heat is nuts.

Shenzhen, China    11/26/2013    8:05 P.M.   Departure Scan

Yea, but do the thumbs have any tracking info?  When you get the board delivery after a quick run though where are they coming from for you. I seem to expect California.
No idea on the thumbs- thats all Barn.
I will be shipping out from Central MO.

Does anyone have any details regarding power consumption. The genesis block calculator says expected power usage per unit to be 2100 watts. I am afraid for me that's not going to work. To be honest I was expecting something that would work on a residential 120v circuit. They also do not offer any hosting yet unfortunately.


I got ya covered Tongue
But yeah that is kind of silly. Im glad when I put my new facility together I decided to say fuck it and got all 240v

November 26th, edited on the 28th, Matt Carson is still in Missouri at the second facility: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347732.msg3723600#msg3723600

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bobsag3: Vetted Co-op member. World's lowest hosting fees for vetted miner hosting at a professional colocation hosting facility in Missouri!  Official Black Arrow US Reseller and US Distributor for Drillbit Systems. New Pres. of our Mining Operations arm of our LLC. Providing R19 and R19B miners to the GB Forum!

And still upgrading his second facility:


<snip>

No problem. Im having a 400A 240V pannel installed just for the 2kw+ miners that seem to be coming out.

On December 12, 2013, fresh back from China, Matt Carson posted the following... BTW, still located in Missiouri:

This makes no sense financially and if it's going to be hosted in a data center it should be using specialized GPU mining racks that can run more GPUs per motherboard/CPU.  You really need open racks and to use PCI-E riser ribbons if you want to build a GPU mining rig, using a desktop computer case makes no sense especially because heat is a huge issue with scrypt mining.  Also to be honest, scrypt mining is VERY finicky compared to SHA256 mining, you're talking about constant lockups and crashes if heat isn't perfectly controlled.  The amount of time that's going to go into keeping everything running is going to be much higher than with bitcoins and given how the Bitfury towers already caused a ton of problems I'm not sure the coop has enough manpower to keep racks of scrypt miners up and running.

The new facility comes with me also having hired 6 more people to help out. I am currently training them right now.

On December 13, Matt Carson hired additional staff to work at his Missouri-based datacenter, to date not mentioning Denver even once.


<snip>

I am working with them right now for me to help with their tickets, so we can get the response time much faster. I have hired additional staff that start work here in a few weeks, and I know they are working hard to improve their systems.

I cant speak on the refunds unfortunately, I am still discussing the options with them.

Four hours later, Matt mentions for the first the move to Denver, right after somebody ask about local pickup since he lives in KC. Did his new hires move to Denver with him?

We will offer local pickups- but we are moving to a massive new facility in CO, so pickups will have to be from there Smiley.

ALSO: I now have access to the BA ticket system, so if you need a response feel free to PM and I can at least check on the status for you.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=288012

We are all moved into the new place, lots of updates and pictures to come!

BUILDING #3:

Somewhere in Colorado, in some warehouse with 16-18 foot ceilings, ideally well-suited for bitcoin miners that love fiberglass dust sourced from the exposed insulation in the ceilings and walls, blown free from the constantly moving vortex of air due to the industrial-sized air conditioning unit(s). Whatever you do, don't open up that massive overhead door that's probably not well-sealed, otherwise you'll really have the dust a flying.

This has been the third time you're on record in stating that you only moved once. Care to try for a forth time?

~TMIBTCITW
3634  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: February 16, 2014, 06:32:37 PM


Bout 2 weeks ago, very much under construction.
And yes, that is a quakecon sign Smiley

how much is rent for a space like that?


Why don't you make a call and find out: http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/16558809/3250-Oakland-St-Aurora-CO/

Tell 'em Bruno sent you, and perhaps they'll give you a 25% discount on your lease agreement for the next 6 months.

I suggest leasing a climate control unit if... (I'm just sayin'!)



Timeline of Matt Carson's datacenter locations.

BUILDING #1: Purchased the building, awaiting infrastructure.

Building was purchased today!
All the wiring and infrastructure equipment arrives tomorrow-Wednesday. Over 400lb. Poor UPS man


<snip>

Thanks- Ill be moving to a custom made facility here in under 3 weeks.

BUILDING #2: Moving to a better facility here (still in Missouri) located 90 miles away.

Major Update!

We will be moving to a much large, much better facility here by the end of the month. There may be a short down time (its only a 90mi drive) while being setup at the new facility, but we will not be turning anything off right up to the last minute.

Major Update!

We will be moving to a much large, much better facility here by the end of the month. There may be a short down time (its only a 90mi drive) while being setup at the new facility, but we will not be turning anything off right up to the last minute.

Building acquired Smiley

I cant answer on the software but I can on the shipping. Looks like the boards should be done here within 48 hours, and then will be dispatched after a small amount of testing to AUS, and me in the US. At least from me, all boards will then be tested again (Not sure how long... suggestions?) and then immediatly shipped out same day via UPS Next Day/2nd Day air [depending on location]. As soon as we know the boards are done, we can give  concrete delivery.

I'd sample test say 1/10th of the boards for a few hours on testnet.  That'd be my recommendation

Yeah I can do that. *might* be able to live stream, or atleast upload a ton of pictures.
I will be shipping from MO. Middle of the country, and if your anywhere close to me Im ok with local pickup Smiley.


And I just want to say guys - Barn has been working very hard behind the screens to bring this all together... this stuff is immensely complex.

Here we are, on November 18th, and Matt still has his datacenter in Missouri at the second facility:


<snip>

This is why I went from garage > warehouse > bigger warehouse. Heat is nuts.

Shenzhen, China    11/26/2013    8:05 P.M.   Departure Scan

Yea, but do the thumbs have any tracking info?  When you get the board delivery after a quick run though where are they coming from for you. I seem to expect California.
No idea on the thumbs- thats all Barn.
I will be shipping out from Central MO.

Does anyone have any details regarding power consumption. The genesis block calculator says expected power usage per unit to be 2100 watts. I am afraid for me that's not going to work. To be honest I was expecting something that would work on a residential 120v circuit. They also do not offer any hosting yet unfortunately.


I got ya covered Tongue
But yeah that is kind of silly. Im glad when I put my new facility together I decided to say fuck it and got all 240v

November 26th, edited on the 28th, Matt Carson is still in Missouri at the second facility: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347732.msg3723600#msg3723600

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bobsag3: Vetted Co-op member. World's lowest hosting fees for vetted miner hosting at a professional colocation hosting facility in Missouri!  Official Black Arrow US Reseller and US Distributor for Drillbit Systems. New Pres. of our Mining Operations arm of our LLC. Providing R19 and R19B miners to the GB Forum!

And still upgrading his second facility:


<snip>

No problem. Im having a 400A 240V pannel installed just for the 2kw+ miners that seem to be coming out.

On December 12, 2013, fresh back from China, Matt Carson posted the following... BTW, still located in Missiouri:

This makes no sense financially and if it's going to be hosted in a data center it should be using specialized GPU mining racks that can run more GPUs per motherboard/CPU.  You really need open racks and to use PCI-E riser ribbons if you want to build a GPU mining rig, using a desktop computer case makes no sense especially because heat is a huge issue with scrypt mining.  Also to be honest, scrypt mining is VERY finicky compared to SHA256 mining, you're talking about constant lockups and crashes if heat isn't perfectly controlled.  The amount of time that's going to go into keeping everything running is going to be much higher than with bitcoins and given how the Bitfury towers already caused a ton of problems I'm not sure the coop has enough manpower to keep racks of scrypt miners up and running.

The new facility comes with me also having hired 6 more people to help out. I am currently training them right now.

On December 13, Matt Carson hired additional staff to work at his Missouri-based datacenter, to date not mentioning Denver even once.


<snip>

I am working with them right now for me to help with their tickets, so we can get the response time much faster. I have hired additional staff that start work here in a few weeks, and I know they are working hard to improve their systems.

I cant speak on the refunds unfortunately, I am still discussing the options with them.

Four hours later, Matt mentions for the first the move to Denver, right after somebody ask about local pickup since he lives in KC. Did his new hires move to Denver with him?

We will offer local pickups- but we are moving to a massive new facility in CO, so pickups will have to be from there Smiley.

ALSO: I now have access to the BA ticket system, so if you need a response feel free to PM and I can at least check on the status for you.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=288012

We are all moved into the new place, lots of updates and pictures to come!

BUILDING #3:

Somewhere in Colorado, in some warehouse with 16-18 foot ceilings, ideally well-suited for bitcoin miners that love fiberglass dust sourced from the exposed insulation in the ceilings and walls, blown free from the constantly moving vortex of air due to the industrial-sized air conditioning unit(s). Whatever you do, don't open up that massive overhead door that's probably not well-sealed, otherwise you'll really have the dust a flying.

This has been the third time you're on record in stating that you only moved once. Care to try for a forth time?

~TMIBTCITW
3635  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow is most likely a scam operation on: February 16, 2014, 05:21:54 PM
http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/index.php?dispatch=news.list&page=2&sl=en

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We have also approached various credit card processing vendors. As soon as we find one willing to work with pre-orders, we will be able to process credit/debit cards. However, because this process might take longer than the time required to sell our first ASICs batch, we hope that the absence of the Credit/Debit card process will not stop our customers from placing orders with us.

I hope Visa doesn't find out that I've been accepting pre-order payments for barn wood that I've yet to procure due to not having what's been order on-hand, otherwise I may have to only accept cash or bitcoins, knowing that checks are way too risky.

Also, from the same source dated 30 Sep 2013:

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After consulting with one of our prospective resellers, who have had more interaction with PayPal than we have, we understood that PayPal’s business model does not fit very well with pre-orders. Because our delivery date is over Paypal’s 90 days delivery threshold, we risk having our PayPal account blocked with all customers’ money in it. If such a thing were to happen this might cause huge delays in deliveries and we want to avoid this at all costs.

I'm pretty sure that the reseller Alex(?) is speaking of is Matt Carson a.k.a. bobsag3, formally of Missouri, but recently moved his plants and hosted miners and hookah to his massive warehouse (his words) in Denver on January 1, 2014, where growing and smoking weed is legal, after paying only the initial September rent, forget to pay October, November and December.

Also, how does a company that's been in business for so long not know about PayPal's terms, claiming to had to have them expressed to them from a hash-head in Missouri?

Now, my favorite BA quotes, juxtaposed to show contrast.

Instead of escrow, why not use multisignature? Its easy to do on blockchain.info:
https://blockchain.info/wallet/escrow

No risk of the escrow party running off with the money, losing his laptop or getting killed in a carcrash. You just need an independent third party to sign, and if all goes well, he doesnt have to do anything.

We can certainly do that. But what happens if the Bitcoin goes down by the time we can cash it out?

I also do not see the reasons to offer a discount for these transactions.

The way that we see it, our customers who have placed non-escrow pre-orders are our investors, hence it is our duty to do our best to maximize their revenues. They will receive discounts and price guarantees.

Escrow transactions where we cannot use the funds to pay the foundry and engineers, are just ... sales that require more of our investment.


as much as i hated that guy, i don't think all his post should had been deleted.

Maybe, but unfortunately we do not have time to read all his posts. We have work to do for all our paying customers, and have no time to waste with a random jobless individual who's not even our customer.

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sadly i will be seeking a refund to because i now dont believe my x1s will roi due this mayor delay and mtgox going down.honestly you guys could had done a beter job handleing this.

We are selling hardware. We are not investment service.


For not being an investment service, they sure the hell aren't going outta their way to distant themselves from such.

BTW, the random jobless individual they're referring to and opted to not waste their time on is me.

The following is a post of mine that was deleted by Black Arrow, of which was quoted by a couple other bitcoiners, of which they, too, have been deleted, but I did post it elsewhere during the same timeframe.

Hardware supplier or investment service? You decide.

as much as i hated that guy, i don't think all his post should had been deleted.

Maybe, but unfortunately we do not have time to read all his posts. We have work to do for all our paying customers, and have no time to waste with a random jobless individual who's not even our customer.

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sadly i will be seeking a refund to because i now dont believe my x1s will roi due this mayor delay and mtgox going down.honestly you guys could had done a beter job handleing this.

We are selling hardware. We are not investment service.


http://bitcoinexaminer.org/alex-berk-black-arrow-as-soon-as-14nm-is-available-well-release-a-new-asic-that-will-outperform-any-other-14nm-designs/

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After the recent launching of the Prospero Bitcoin mining machine and the ASIC “the Minion”, the company Black Arrow is currently in the center of attention. The brand, founded in 2010 in Hong Kong, has established its presence in China and now wants to conquer the rest of the Bitcoin world.

After spending some time developing hardware and embedded firmware for several clients, Black Arrow discovered cryptocurrencies about one year ago. “And we have been fascinated about the concept ever since”, reveals Alex Berk, the representative of the company who talked with Bitcoin Examiner.

We interviewed Berk to find out more about Black Arrow and the news are amazing.

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We’ll be supporting financially our Lancelot customers to upgrade to our new products in order to be able to recover and make money on their investment, thing that has never been done in Bitcoin industry.

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Prospero X1 is right for every customer that wishes to get the best return of investment, but don’t have the space or money to spend for mining Bitcoins.

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It’s understandable because the difficulty rose so much and they didn’t have a chance to recover their investment.

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We understand that the relation between a vendor and customers has to be win-win. We are trying to address this by guaranteeing our customers that we’ll do everything we can to protect their investment.

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We will do this through offering the best technology available, aggressive pricing, limiting the number of ASICs that we put on the market in order to give everybody a fair chance of recovering their investment and earn money.

Is there another definition for investment that I'm not aware of for, in the traditional meaning, it sure does sound like you're offering an investment service? Then again, I'm just a broke dick troll living in my mommy's basement because I can't hold down a job.

with asics here... I have a question.. WHY?!

Few reasons:
- Because we do not have ASICs
- Because ASICs are not available for everybody
- Because at the current prices of the ASICs we are just as performant.
- Far better ROI than any investment fund, bank, etc (100% in 4 months - with the current difficulty rise)


http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/index.php?dispatch=news.list&page=2&sl=en

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At today’s Bitcoin price and network hashing rate, X-1 would return $682 in 15 days and X-3 would return $13845 in 15 days.
3636  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My 9-year-old nephew is now into bitcoin on: February 16, 2014, 03:20:31 PM
disgraceful!
even with 0 BTC balance I would never beg!

who's begging?

I will assume you are intelligent enough to see that for yourself - there is only 1 page plus a bit on page 2..?

Yep! The oldest trick in the book--use your nine-year-old nephew to garner bitcoins. Daddy Goat didn't raise no fool.
3637  Other / Off-topic / Re: The real reason Goat changed his name! [NSF[Wankers]] on: February 16, 2014, 06:38:35 AM
Oh bruno you've cleared everything up!!

It took a lot of diggin' to find like-minded followers, but...

3638  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Introduction to DualMiner USB (could mine both BTC and LTC) on: February 16, 2014, 06:06:25 AM
This post is not meant as a diss toward Dual Miner, but wanted to share something nonetheless.

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About us
Broadeng Inc. is the exclusive reseller of DualMiner USB products in North America. Broadeng has a close business relationship with its chip provider (Gridchip Inc) and system manufacturing partners in China. We strive to provide high quality Bitcoin and Litecoin mining equipment to our worldwide customers. We will only sell mining products that are in stock.

http://www.linkedin.com/company/broadeng-inc-

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Broadeng Inc was established in 2010, with its focus on design, integration, manufacturing, and marketing of video conferencing terminal, HD video cameras, communication devices and embedded systems. Broadeng has its development teams located in Beijing,Changzhou and Silicon Valley (USA

http://www.broadeye.tv/en/page.php?cid=9

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Tiannengbo System Co., Ltd. was established in 2010, with its focus on design, integration, manufacturing, and marketing of video conferencing terminal, HD video cameras, communication devices and embedded systems.

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Changzhou Tiannengbo System Co., Ltd.

Address:   
Rm. 306, No.9, East Hehai Road, Tianning Hi-tech Service Pk.

Chang zhou,Jiangsu 213000


Tel:   0519-81299661
Fax:   0519-81299651
Email:   info@broadeng.com
Contact:   Mrs.Mou

http://www.broadeye.tv/

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Days to Bo Information Technology Co., Ltd. was established in 2010, is a focus on high-definition video, communications, monitoring, and embedded systems development, integration, production and marketing of high-tech enterprises.

天能博信息科技有限公司成立于2010年,是一家专注于高清摄像、通讯、监控和嵌入式系统开发,集成,生产和销售的高科技企业。

http://whois.domaintools.com/broadeye.tv

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Domain Name:broadeye.tv
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Registrar WHOIS Server:whois.paycenter.com.cn
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Registrar Registration Expiration Date:2014-09-14 09:20:28
Registrar:XINNET TECHNOLOGY CORPORATION
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Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
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Domain Status:ok
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name:zhuaizhen
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Registrant Street:Tianning Hohai Road on the 9th
Registrant City:changzhoushi
Registrant State/Province:jiangsusheng
Registrant Postal Code:213000
Registrant Country:China
Registrant Phone:81299661
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:81299651
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http://www.webboar.com/whois-email/bHV5dUBob25ldC5jbg==
3639  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: iMiner -- the really smallest and coolest BTC miner in the world on: February 16, 2014, 05:16:10 AM
I'll tell you what. Sure is a pretty thing. If this is a scam, it sure is a good one. That said, I like these guys, foregoing any fuuing.
3640  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My 9-year-old nephew is now into bitcoin on: February 16, 2014, 04:59:50 AM
Just when I thought I've seen it all, along comes another one. When will it end? When will it end? I guess it'll never end, but at least I've learnt to read through most of them coming here and tricking us outta our precious. Well, buddy! I for one won't be tricked. And that goes double for you and your I-bet-that's-your-nephew.

I bet you expected somebody to just come along and double what you seeded your nephew's(?) account with, eh? Well, I'm here to show you a thing or two: https://blockchain.info/address/18eABNYAEdAk1e2TaGupgpk9NDGLHPuRBN

~TMIBTCITW
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